@Renogysolar has some pretty decent gear! We’ve been running their 60amp DCDC charger in the back of the Fourby for about a year now and it’s been so good 👌🏽
Mate, to do a honest review you should really hook the unit up as it's being sold, which is a DC to DC with MPPT controller, this way you can evaluate how it does or does not handle the dual connection, if it doesn't do what you think the marketing information is saying it does then you can report this to your viewers as a negative. IMO there is no point doing a review on a dual input unit if you are hooking up a separate mppt because this is not how the unit is being marketed, you will get a different end result, then you may recommend the unit and it won't work the way you mentioned because you had a separate MPPT to handle the solar input. Also check the temperature of the cabling, my ones got very hot because Renogy always supply bare minimum rated cables on all their product, curious if they have upgraded them (my units are 6 months old) , because they hard wire the connections you cannot upgrade it, like any electrical wiring, as the wires heat up their efficiency drops. Example of typical Renogy cable underspec: I installed a Renogy 3000W inverter (actually very good inverter for the price) they supply two x 100A rated positive and two x 100A negative cables, problem is if you pull 3000W the current is actually 250A !!, yet they only supply 200A of cable. I tested these cables, and even at only 200A load the supplied cables get very hot to touch, so would have most likely melted at 250A, they were the cheap PVC coated Aluminium wires and not the better quality Silicon Aluminium or better still copper wires, if the wires get too hot it just melts the PVC, ie: PVC melting point 100C to 260C, Silicon 537C to 1414C so a big difference. Renogy should have supplied three negative and three positive cables, needless to say I ditched the supplied cables and put some suitably sized Silicon cables that don't even get warm at 3000W,. I'm not trying to bash on Renogy, they do make some nice products, but they also make some products not fit for purpose, or skimp on important parts like cable sizes, I can recommend the 40A DC to DC with the additional bluetooth, as it just works, (would be good if the had a 60A version), then put on a separate mppt and it will do exactly what you need it to do at a good price.
Hey mate, you normally give such good information and comment. But I'm assuming you didn't actually watch this review? This is not the dual input model I mentioned that 3 times. Also mention on Thursday they will be going in the van. This is purely just a spec and first impressions review. I think you can agree there is a lot that can be told from a products based off its specs. That's how we decide if we should buy it or not.
@@Off.Track4x4 Yes Mate, I did watch the video, and have first hand experience with this unit, I was so disappointed with them, I removed them from both vehicles (good waste of nearly $1000), I will be watching your results also to see if you come across the same issues I did and why I removed them which is they run too bloody hot, don't output 50A for longer than 5-10 minutes, and perform poorly with the solar input due to poorly implemented mppt design. To clarify; are you saying the Supercheap unit is different to the one you buy from Renogy direct and it's a single input only ? if so then you have misread something, this device is a dual input device this is what the mppt part of the unit is, a single input unit does not have the mppt circuits and can't accept solar input, these are just called DC to DC charger, they take alternator input only and output regulated DC. The dual input is stated on Supercheap website, and also on the documentation you can download from supercheap website, this unit take's Solar up to 50V (which is much better than most other products and why I chose this unit) and alternator input of 9-32V (which again is why I chose it because one system I have is 24V battery,) it then regulates the output to 50A or 720W based on it's internal logic. The only difference to the one Renogy sell direct on their website and ebay outlet for the same price or cheaper is the supercheap unit has Andersons fitted rather than bare wires, this will be done locally by supercheap, that's what the exclusive part is, it's just the Anderson plugs. Also they are definitely not a NEW device as your title suggests, I purchased these on the 19th of December 2023, directly from Renogy when they were first released, they are sold all around the world. Anyway, I'm not having a go at you as I think your channel is good, but you have dropped the ball with this product if you're going to test it by using a separate mppt because it defies why you would buy this product, you are paying a premium of $499 because it has mppt built in, You're better off buying the 60A Renogy DC to DC charger for $259 and a Victron 50A mppt for $199 and still come out cheaper than this unit for far better / reliable performance.
Mate be very careful where you install this unit because it runs Effing HOT, after about 30 minutes of charging you cannot touch the outside casing because it's too bloody hot, I measured it's temp and it was running at 78C, too damn hot IMO not only will this shorten the life of the charger it's dangerous if something touches this unit that's sensitive to high temps,. Also the 50A will only last for about 5 minutes then it will max out at 38A to 40A, you won't see 50A again until it's completely cold, I have even tried force cooling it and it made no difference, it's s con, it's can only reliably deliver 40A not 50A if you really want to use Renogy DC, ditch this one and get the 40A SKU: RBC40D1U-AU for $189 and add the bluetooth dongle to it, it does everything this one will do except MPPT then get a proper MPPT by Victron, you can get these from $90 for 100V/20A to $199 for 100V/50A Victron MPPT crap on this Renogy unit plus it's cheaper. I have ditched these Renogy units for the Victron stuff now in my own mobile applications, the MPPT circuit in this one is poorly designed, by having separate DC and MPPT you can feed both to the battery at the same time increasing your charging capacity, the ONLY thing this unit has going for it is it can work on a 12V or 24V system, other than that it's a floored design, they went for compactness and sacrificed cooling / efficiency. You will see what I mean after you install it, If you try to charge a fairly depleted 200A or in your case a 400A setup, pack some eggs because you can literally cook them on top of the unit, I'm not joking, if you can demonstrate this in your review video of it would be funny, it needs to be in use for about 30 minutes.
Hey mate, thanks for all the information. I'll make sure I check the temperature 🌡 If this one does the same thing it will be coming out. My hardkorr DCDC which is smaller design doesn't get hot at all. Here's hoping yours was just faulty 😬
@@Off.Track4x4 Let us know, I had two of them in different vehicles, they both did the same 😂😂, below is the official response from Renogy Support, when I questioned them about hot hot it was, it appears they are quite happy with it running up to 80C !!!!!!!, not in my vehicles it ain't, 80C is too dangerous for a device to be running at in a closed canopy. Response: Using the DC HOME App, check the internal temperature of the charger. If it exceeds 176°F (80°C), disconnect the charger and assess the temperature at its location, ensuring proper ventilation to prevent overheating.
@Renogysolar has some pretty decent gear! We’ve been running their 60amp DCDC charger in the back of the Fourby for about a year now and it’s been so good 👌🏽
Hey mate, thanks for watching. Fair few people seem to be running their gear now. Can't wait to test it out.
Ha ha, spending your hard on 😂 classic, cheers 🍻 mate thanks for the review 👍 great work 🤙
Hahahahah I had to leave that in there! To funny not to!
Thanks for watching guys
@Off.Track4x4 had to be done ✔️ 👌🤣
Thanks mate.
Thanks for watching mate! Really appreciate it 🙏
VOC for solar?
Hey mate 95VDC
Stay tuned for the install video and testing.
Mate, to do a honest review you should really hook the unit up as it's being sold, which is a DC to DC with MPPT controller, this way you can evaluate how it does or does not handle the dual connection, if it doesn't do what you think the marketing information is saying it does then you can report this to your viewers as a negative.
IMO there is no point doing a review on a dual input unit if you are hooking up a separate mppt because this is not how the unit is being marketed, you will get a different end result, then you may recommend the unit and it won't work the way you mentioned because you had a separate MPPT to handle the solar input.
Also check the temperature of the cabling, my ones got very hot because Renogy always supply bare minimum rated cables on all their product, curious if they have upgraded them (my units are 6 months old) , because they hard wire the connections you cannot upgrade it, like any electrical wiring, as the wires heat up their efficiency drops.
Example of typical Renogy cable underspec: I installed a Renogy 3000W inverter (actually very good inverter for the price) they supply two x 100A rated positive and two x 100A negative cables, problem is if you pull 3000W the current is actually 250A !!, yet they only supply 200A of cable.
I tested these cables, and even at only 200A load the supplied cables get very hot to touch, so would have most likely melted at 250A, they were the cheap PVC coated Aluminium wires and not the better quality Silicon Aluminium or better still copper wires, if the wires get too hot it just melts the PVC, ie: PVC melting point 100C to 260C, Silicon 537C to 1414C so a big difference.
Renogy should have supplied three negative and three positive cables, needless to say I ditched the supplied cables and put some suitably sized Silicon cables that don't even get warm at 3000W,.
I'm not trying to bash on Renogy, they do make some nice products, but they also make some products not fit for purpose, or skimp on important parts like cable sizes, I can recommend the 40A DC to DC with the additional bluetooth, as it just works, (would be good if the had a 60A version), then put on a separate mppt and it will do exactly what you need it to do at a good price.
Hey mate, you normally give such good information and comment. But I'm assuming you didn't actually watch this review? This is not the dual input model I mentioned that 3 times.
Also mention on Thursday they will be going in the van.
This is purely just a spec and first impressions review. I think you can agree there is a lot that can be told from a products based off its specs. That's how we decide if we should buy it or not.
@@Off.Track4x4 Yes Mate, I did watch the video, and have first hand experience with this unit, I was so disappointed with them, I removed them from both vehicles (good waste of nearly $1000), I will be watching your results also to see if you come across the same issues I did and why I removed them which is they run too bloody hot, don't output 50A for longer than 5-10 minutes, and perform poorly with the solar input due to poorly implemented mppt design.
To clarify; are you saying the Supercheap unit is different to the one you buy from Renogy direct and it's a single input only ? if so then you have misread something, this device is a dual input device this is what the mppt part of the unit is, a single input unit does not have the mppt circuits and can't accept solar input, these are just called DC to DC charger, they take alternator input only and output regulated DC.
The dual input is stated on Supercheap website, and also on the documentation you can download from supercheap website, this unit take's Solar up to 50V (which is much better than most other products and why I chose this unit) and alternator input of 9-32V (which again is why I chose it because one system I have is 24V battery,) it then regulates the output to 50A or 720W based on it's internal logic.
The only difference to the one Renogy sell direct on their website and ebay outlet for the same price or cheaper is the supercheap unit has Andersons fitted rather than bare wires, this will be done locally by supercheap, that's what the exclusive part is, it's just the Anderson plugs.
Also they are definitely not a NEW device as your title suggests, I purchased these on the 19th of December 2023, directly from Renogy when they were first released, they are sold all around the world.
Anyway, I'm not having a go at you as I think your channel is good, but you have dropped the ball with this product if you're going to test it by using a separate mppt because it defies why you would buy this product, you are paying a premium of $499 because it has mppt built in,
You're better off buying the 60A Renogy DC to DC charger for $259 and a Victron 50A mppt for $199 and still come out cheaper than this unit for far better / reliable performance.
Mate be very careful where you install this unit because it runs Effing HOT, after about 30 minutes of charging you cannot touch the outside casing because it's too bloody hot, I measured it's temp and it was running at 78C, too damn hot IMO not only will this shorten the life of the charger it's dangerous if something touches this unit that's sensitive to high temps,.
Also the 50A will only last for about 5 minutes then it will max out at 38A to 40A, you won't see 50A again until it's completely cold, I have even tried force cooling it and it made no difference, it's s con, it's can only reliably deliver 40A not 50A if you really want to use Renogy DC, ditch this one and get the 40A SKU: RBC40D1U-AU for $189 and add the bluetooth dongle to it, it does everything this one will do except MPPT then get a proper MPPT by Victron, you can get these from $90 for 100V/20A to $199 for 100V/50A Victron MPPT crap on this Renogy unit plus it's cheaper.
I have ditched these Renogy units for the Victron stuff now in my own mobile applications, the MPPT circuit in this one is poorly designed, by having separate DC and MPPT you can feed both to the battery at the same time increasing your charging capacity, the ONLY thing this unit has going for it is it can work on a 12V or 24V system, other than that it's a floored design, they went for compactness and sacrificed cooling / efficiency.
You will see what I mean after you install it, If you try to charge a fairly depleted 200A or in your case a 400A setup, pack some eggs because you can literally cook them on top of the unit, I'm not joking, if you can demonstrate this in your review video of it would be funny, it needs to be in use for about 30 minutes.
Hey mate, thanks for all the information.
I'll make sure I check the temperature 🌡
If this one does the same thing it will be coming out.
My hardkorr DCDC which is smaller design doesn't get hot at all. Here's hoping yours was just faulty 😬
@@Off.Track4x4 Let us know, I had two of them in different vehicles, they both did the same 😂😂, below is the official response from Renogy Support, when I questioned them about hot hot it was, it appears they are quite happy with it running up to 80C !!!!!!!, not in my vehicles it ain't, 80C is too dangerous for a device to be running at in a closed canopy.
Response:
Using the DC HOME App, check the internal temperature of the charger. If it exceeds 176°F (80°C), disconnect the charger and assess the temperature at its location, ensuring proper ventilation to prevent overheating.