EXCELLENT Kevin! Appears that the half hour of silence, and the one hour mentioned in the scriptures simply means a much longer time than our time reckoning but not necessarily 21 years for half of silence and 42 years for the hour mentioned. I do NOT believe that those time references are symbolic; but are simply proportionate to God's timing upon us to fulfill prophecy.
I love your videos because you are not arrogant and insistent that your interpretations are the only ones or that they are right. You allow that you could be wrong, which is why I am more likely to seek our your stuff. I wonder if you have thought if doing a video on the 7 Jewish feasts and how those have historically coincided with major events (atonement, death, resurrection of christ) and how the fall feasts will also coincide with major events surrounding Christ's second coming? That would be awesome!
Will you put together a video of the most compelling differences between us and other Christians that makes the best case for the lds church. Just a thought. It not second coming related either and I just really enjoy the videos.
God the Father having a physical body, plus a Heavenly Mother. Father, Son, Holy Ghost, being three different entities No such thing as a literal brimstone and fiery hell Levels of Heaven Premortal Existance - aka, we existed before Earth was formed Just the ones off the top of my head :) But rather than one huge video, I feel like Gospel Lesson's style is more like if he's going to talk about the differences, he would make it one video at time. But that's my opinion based on how his videos have been formatted recently.
While I like this idea. The only thing that matters is whether the Book of Mormon is true. If it's true, then everything else is true. If it's not true, everything is a lie.
Nobody seems to understand what I'm saying it seems. What I'm saying is why is a godhead where Jesus and God are separate more compelling than the God of traditional christians
A signal ahead of 'MISSIONARIES being called HOME' is that the fields will stagnate and they will start having trouble to find investigators. This is happening now or very soon. (Doesn't mean there won't be any, but it will drop in numbers). Note that when wars happen people are too stressed out to hardly pay attention to faith unless its planted in their hearts already. Its very hard to teach people that don't know when there next meal is, have extreme stress, problems.
It's happening in the Gentile nations. Church growth is stagnant or declining among these people's. The Church is really only growing by any meaningful numbers in Central/South America, the Phillipines, and Africa. In the US, the major growth is among immigrant or 2nd generation immigrant populations.
I don’t understand your placement of Adam Ondi Ahmen: “…before he stands on Mount Zion, or sets his feet on Olivet, or utters his voice from an American Zion or a Jewish Jerusalem; before all flesh shall see him together; before any of his appearances, which taken together comprise the second coming of the Son of God-before all these, there is to be a secret appearance to selected members of his Church…it will take place in Daviess County, Missouri, at a place called Adam-ondi-Ahman.” Bruce R. McConkie The above quote is in many reference manuals and materials of the church. I am just curious why you place it where you do. Anyway, I really do love your channel - keep up the great content!
WoW, most recent general conference address that just happened the saturday evening session. Lots of talks about repentance than ending with a talk about apostasy and pride in the church and how in the book of mormon such things happened quickly. I also got to thinking about how the gospel will go forth to all the world. Isn't it possible that it sounding in EVERY ear, wont happen tell after Christ comes in glory?
Do you think it's possible, probably is, that the prophet will give us a definitive time like Samuel the Lamanite did? They say, basically, that the time is at hand, or close to it, but we have been hearing this for decades. Just wondering if we will get an exact time like was done for those that were in the Americas.
President Nelson's closing remarks were notable: "Through the power of the sacred priesthood keys I hold, I declare this truth to you and to all the world!" (Oct 2024)
It's not the dead sea that has life, it is the dead sea basen. For the first time in thousands of years there are fish in the dead sea basen. It is not a fulfillment of the prophecy, but it is a start
@@GarySaint-xm6tr they were also saying that there were bacteria in THE dead sea...so...don't know. Didn't say anything about the basin. ".Fresh water is now flowing into this Rift Valley expanse that has been unable to support life since the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah ."
Yes, its wonderful, Our Corrupt government can't give enough money to illegals, some are living in $500 a night posh hotels, while Veterans who fought for this country receive DIDDLY.
Elder Gong said in 2020: "May we joyfully accept God’s invitation to receive and help fulfill His promised and prophesied blessings in all nations, kindreds, and tongues, I pray in the sacred and holy name of Jesus Christ, amen." That seems to suggest it's yet to be done or ongoing. Elder Faust said in April 2006: "The Apostle John saw in vision the time when another angel [would] fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people.” This prophecy has been fulfilled." His talk is about the the restoration of the gospel and it seems he may be referring to the fact that the prophecy of the gospel being restored has been fulfilled. The paragraph prior to this quote and the two directly following it are all relating to the gospel being restored, not preached to every nation. I would be interested to see what Mr. Prince has to say.
How can that be?? North Korea and several other communist countries have not even heard the gospel at all. Many other countries have yet to open its doors to missionaries. Please don’t say things you don’t know what you’re talking about. You misunderstood what the apostles are actually saying. The gospel is spreading across the world 🌎 but definitely has not reached every single country.
Genuine question: Does it say anywhere that it will be the restored gospel that will be preached to every nation kindred tounge and people? If not, I think it's fair to say Christ's gospel has been preached to the world in some form or another.
I think many take this prophecy too literally... every nation that WOULD have the gospel does have it. Sorry, but antagonistic nations will not receive the gospel (out of their own choice), thus the need for Christ to save the Jews during Armageddon.
This gospel has indeed been preached in every nation. There may be pockets of areas within nations that this gospel hasn’t been, but there are people in every nation who have it. In fact there was an article not that long ago written by Elder Gong where he identified this.
It says this about “The church of the Firstborn” which is what christs church is named during the Millenium, there are differences between the LDS church and the Church of the Firstborn, mainly the law of consecration etc…
@@battheman777 Yes. Joseph Smith said the seven seals are the seven thousand years temporal history of mankind. He said Chris will return shortly after the opening of the seventh seal, 2000 was roughly the opening of the seventh seal. A member does a timeline on events pertaining to the second coming based on Hebrew days, and holidays, and he has Christ's return between 2036 and 2042. That is Christ's second coming that issuesin the milinial reign. Christ has 3 other appearances before that. One may have already occurred
I have a question. You mentioned that 1 day = 1,000 years (2 Peter 3:8), and came up with 1/2 hr. of silence being approx. 21 years. Why wouldn't you use this math: In Dan 9:24-27 a year in the Tribulation is a "day" (1 week = 7 yrs.) , so along the same lines as the subject calculation, why wouldn't you divide 360 days (Jewish year) by 48 "1/2 hours day", = 12 DAYS of silence in the Heavens, instead of 21 yrs.? If you think about it, because of today's technology, the world will know when He comes to the Jews. To think He will make us wait another 21 yrs. for his "2nd Coming" doesn't seem realistic.
That's a good point. I would just add some food for the thought: The Nephites had a CLEAR signal that Jesus Christ had been born. Even still, the mere fact that He didn't immediately come to them and the years passed by made them start questioning wether it was true or not. Yeah maybe the Jews will try and tell the world about it but for them to believe it is a whole other thing.
No one yet knows what this really means. Additionally, one could also speculate that an hour is a week. This is based on Christ saying to his mother during the wedding of Cana that “his hour is not yet come” and elsewhere in the scripture that talks of his final week as his hour. Thus 1/2 hour would be 1/2 of a week of 3 1/2 years which correlates to Daniel’s numbers (similar to time, times and half a time, or 1/2 the tribulation). I think this will be apparent either when it happens or when we are warned by our prophet.
Mistyped comment above. 1/2 of a week or 3 1/2 days. 3 1/2 seems to be a repeated pattern of time, times and half a time and also correlates to 1/2 of the tribulation.
you are also assuming that all the technology will be usable. Don't forget all the devastation that will be happening: the great scourge, great famine, great hailstorm, great earthquake, Armageddon. I could see a scenario where technology as we know it isn't working and we won't just be able to turn on the news and see the news chopper showing Jesus standing on the mount of olives.
You indicate that the gospel must be preached throughout the world prior to Christ's appearance on the mount of olives. D&C 45:54 says "And then shall the heathen nations be redeemed, and they that knew no law shall have part in the first resurrection; and it shall be tolerable for them." This happens after the Jews become converted. I have always interpreted this as many of the Muslim nations becoming converted because of what happens at Armageddon. Just some thoughts.
Where does this “seven-year” concept come from anyway? It may shock you, but if you look for “seven years of tribulation” in any concordance, you won’t find it. The truth is, from Genesis to Revelation, there is no exact passage that specifically mentions a seven-year period of tribulation at all. Amazingly, the entire theory is really based on a rather speculative interpretation of two little words in one single verse. The text is Daniel 9:27; and the two words are, “one week.” Let's go 1. The entire prophecy of Daniel 9:24-27 covers a period of “seventy weeks.” This period applies to one complete, sequential block of time. This prophecy would start during the Persian period and would end during the time of the Messiah. 2. Logic requires that the 70th week follow immediately after the 69th week. If it does not, then it cannot properly be called the 70th week! 3. It is illogical to insert a 2,000-year gap between the 69th and the 70th week. No hint of this gap is found in the prophecy itself. There is no gap between the first 7 weeks and the following 62 weeks. Why insert one between the 69th and the 70th week? 4. Daniel 9:27 says nothing about a seven-year period of tribulation, or about any Antichrist 5. The focus of this prophecy is the Messiah, not the Antichrist. Modern interpreters have applied “the people of the prince” who would come to “destroy the city and the sanctuary” (verse 26) to the Antichrist. Yet the text does not say this. In the past, that sentence has been applied to the Romans, who under Prince Titus did “destroy the city and the sanctuary” in'‘A.D. 70 6. “He shall confirm the covenant.” Jesus Christ came “to confirm the promises made unto the fathers.” Romans 15:8. Nowhere in the Bible is Antichrist ever said to make or confirm a covenant with anyone! The word “covenant” always applies to the Messiah, never to the Antichrist! 7. “He shall confirm the covenant with many.” Jesus said, “This is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many.” Matthew 26:28. Jesus used the same words, because He knew that He was fulfilling Daniel 9:27! 8. “In the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease.” The 70th week was from A.D. 27 to 34. After three and a half years of ministry, Christ died in A.D. 31, “in the midst [middle] of the week.” At the moment of His death, “the veil of the temple was rent [torn] in twain from the top to the bottom.” Matthew 27. The Great Sacrifice had been offered! 9. “For the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate.” Jesus plainly applied this “abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet” (Matthew 24:15) to the time when His followers were to flee from Jerusalem before the destruction of the second temple in A.D. 70. Jesus told His 12 disciples, “When ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies [the Roman armies led by Prince Titus], then know that its desolation is near.” Luke 21:20, emphasis added. Those disciples did “see” those very events. Christ’s very last words to the Pharisees from inside the second temple were, “Behold, (Your house is left unto you desolate.” Matthew 23:38. Thus Daniel’s prophecy about Jerusalem becoming “desolate” was exactly fulfilled in A.D. 70! Jesus understood this perfectly. 10. Gabriel said that the 70'week prophecy specifically applied to the Jewish people (see Daniel 9:24). During the period of Christ’s public ministry of 3 1/2 years, the Master’s focus was largely upon “the lost sheep of the house of Israel” (Matthew 10:6). After His resurrection and then for another 3 1/2 years, His disciples preached mostly to Jews (see Acts 1-6). After that second 3 1/2-year period, in 34 A.D., the bold Stephen was stoned by the Jewish Sanhedrin (see Acts 7). This infamous deed marked the then-ruling Jewish leaders’ final, official rejection of the gospel of our Savior. Then the gospel went to the Gentiles. In Acts 9, Saul became Paul, the “apostle to the Gentiles” (Romans 11:13). In Acts 10, God gave Peter a vision revealing it was now time to preach to the Gentiles(see Acts l0:1-28). Read also Acts (l3:46) Thus approximately 3 1/2 years after the crucifixion-and at the end of the 70-week prophecy given for the Jewish people-the gospel shifted to the Gentiles exactly as predicted in Bible prophecy. The seventy weeks of Daniel therefore, have certainly ended many centuries ago. We are not to look to the future for the fulfillment of these predictions. We must look to the past. And if to the past; where is there one who can have any adequate claims to being the subject of these prophecies, but Jesus? He, and he only can claim them; and to him they most certainly refer. one would think, the people [the Jews] among whom [these events] occurred, could not possibly have misapplied the prophecy. “But they did. In fact, one major reason why the Jewish nation as a whole failed to receive its Messiah was because its scholars misintetpreted Daniel (9:27.) They failed to see Jesus Christ as the predicted One who would die in the midst of the 70th week! Amazingly, the exact same thing is happening today. Sincere Christian scholars are now misapplying the very same prophecy. The entire “seven-year period of tribulation” theory is an end time delusion, a massive mega-myth. It may even go down in history as the “greatest evangelical misinterpretation of all time.” The whole concept is like a gigantic bubble. Once Daniel 9:27 is correctly understood and the sharply-pointed pin of truth is inserted, “Pop goes the seven years!” It’s a fact: There is no text in the Bible which teaches a “seven-year tribulation.” If you hunt for it, you’ll end up like Ponce de Leo searching for the mystical Fountain of Youth, but never finding it.
Great video! Have you seen something about John Taylor's Last Days vision? I think it would fit in the half an hour of silence very well but could also be The Great Scourge.
Sister Wendy Nelson said the following in 2016 at a worldwide devotional: "So, now a question as I conclude: What if you learned that the Savior had already returned to this earth-that He, as part of His Second Coming, had already met with some of His true followers in several marvelous, large gatherings-gatherings about which the world, including CNN and the blogosphere, knew nothing. If you found out that the Savior was already on the earth, what would you desperately want to do today, and what would you be willing and ready to do tomorrow?" There's really no way to know what she is implying, if anything at all. Anything other than this exact quote is just speculation. She did not "hint" anything.
Thank you! It’s all fascinating. I’m wondering if you get the chance if you could explain why you believe Adam Ondi Ahman will happen after Christ’s coming to Jerusalem and not during the tribulation. Thanks much!
I enjoy listening to Watcher Palmer and Ward radio, and ChristianHomestead. I don't think they 100 % agree with you're timelines though. But interesting to hear you're perspectives.
The savior would never do that. That would make his prophets false prophets for prophesying stuff that didn't happen. Christ and god are gods of truth. It's why we can put our full faith in them. The only deceiver is Satan.
You should both read the Joseph Smith Translation of Luke 12:41-57 The Lord teaches that He is coming as a thief in the night, but those who watch and are ready will see Him coming. So you are both right!
Mosiah 4:9 "Believe in God; believe that he is, and that he created all things, both in heaven and in earth; believe that he has all wisdom, and all power, both in heaven and in earth; believe that man doth not comprehend all the things which the Lord can comprehend."
The great earthquake occurs in the 6th seal, likely near the end of the first 3.5 year period of the tribulation. The events described in Revelation 8 & 9 occur in the beginning of the 7th seal as it describes in D&C 77 verses 12-13. Also, according to several scriptures, the Jews and the House of Israel are not gathered back to the lands of their inheritance until after they believe in Christ as it states in 2nd Nephi 10:7-9. The kings and queens of the gentiles are the righteous remnant who believe the marred servant who brings forth the words of Christ. Most members of the church will reject this individual and will be cut off from the covenant and be trodden under foot of the remnant of Jacob. This is the Lords great and marvelous work which causes a massive division in the church and the world as it states in 1st Nephi 14:7. Then after this division the mother of abominations gathers up multitudes against those who believe this servant and are protected by the power of God. As those who fight against this righteous remnant they will begin to war among themselves initiating the great tribulation as nation rises against nation among the gentiles. Nephi isn't able to write more because it was given to John to write the rest and this is where the little horn/King of Assyria/Beast and false prophet arise to destroy and enslave the world for 3.5 years as the righteous remnant escapes this judgment upon the world. The beast or little horn is destroyed after the first 3.5 year period as judgment is decreed upon him to be removed from power at Adam-Ohndi-Ahman. After this nation and the world has been greatly depopulated under the Antichrist rule of terror, Zion is established, built up, and the Lord's covenant people inherit the desolate cities and houses of the gentiles and they will greatly outnumber the current population of the church. Once Zion is established, the Lord and the 144,000 high priests under the commission of John the Revelator and other angels will begin gathering all those who will come to Zion and the church of the first born. The two witnesses begin their ministry in Jerusalem at this time as well. Then as it states from my house shall it begin (under the antichrist's depopulation and enslavement of the world and particularly America, from my house shall it go forth. And the world wide plagues and destructions mentioned in Revelation 8 & 9 occur. The 144,000 are sealed up and protected from these disasters as they gather out the righteous to Zion who will be the only people not at war with one another. It will be a place of refuge and safety from these destructions. Proof that the Antichrist and false prophet are destroyed at the midpoint is because the evil spirits that possessed them will come out of them and deceive the Kings of the east to bring war to Jerusalem. Both the beast and the false prophet are cast into perdition. They are individuals as it states in 2nd Nephi 25 that a false messiah would arise and attempt to deceive the Jews.
Daniel 7:25-26, Saints are put into the hand of the antichrist for about 3 ½ years. Who would give Saints to the antichrist half way through the 7 years? No one! Are the first 3½ years the time-line? What is day 1,335 in Daniel 12:12? Ask any Post trib teacher and they will say "I don't know. I was taught 7 years". Day 1,335 is the day if the Lord. The fig tree parable is not about the generation that sees Isreal reborn. Now 76 years, a generation is not that long. The parable is about summer that comes after you see a bud on a fig tree or any tree. When you see sacrifices in Isreal stopped at the abomination of desolation, we rise with the two witnesses on the day Jesus returns just 6 weeks later.
Lovers of truth and lovers of Humanity are having an easier time than the rest. You can check your moral compass by asking where you stand on the genocide that Israel is committing in Gaza. By the power of the Holy Ghost you shall the truth of all things.
Thank you for continuing to make these videos. They help me understand these events so much better.
These are great videos. I think they’re super informative and I’d say probably pretty spot on.
Appreciate all your videos and all the hard work that you put into them. They are nice to have to be able to share with others. Thank you, brother.
Thanks always for your videos. Greatly adds to my understanding and so enlightening!
You are amazing!
EXCELLENT Kevin! Appears that the half hour of silence, and the one hour mentioned in the scriptures simply means a much longer time than our time reckoning but not necessarily 21 years for half of silence and 42 years for the hour mentioned. I do NOT believe that those time references are symbolic; but are simply proportionate to God's timing upon us to fulfill prophecy.
I love your videos because you are not arrogant and insistent that your interpretations are the only ones or that they are right. You allow that you could be wrong, which is why I am more likely to seek our your stuff. I wonder if you have thought if doing a video on the 7 Jewish feasts and how those have historically coincided with major events (atonement, death, resurrection of christ) and how the fall feasts will also coincide with major events surrounding Christ's second coming? That would be awesome!
Will you put together a video of the most compelling differences between us and other Christians that makes the best case for the lds church. Just a thought. It not second coming related either and I just really enjoy the videos.
Most compelling difference: the priesthood keys passed to Joseph
God the Father having a physical body, plus a Heavenly Mother.
Father, Son, Holy Ghost, being three different entities
No such thing as a literal brimstone and fiery hell
Levels of Heaven
Premortal Existance - aka, we existed before Earth was formed
Just the ones off the top of my head :)
But rather than one huge video, I feel like Gospel Lesson's style is more like if he's going to talk about the differences, he would make it one video at time. But that's my opinion based on how his videos have been formatted recently.
While I like this idea. The only thing that matters is whether the Book of Mormon is true.
If it's true, then everything else is true. If it's not true, everything is a lie.
Nobody seems to understand what I'm saying it seems. What I'm saying is why is a godhead where Jesus and God are separate more compelling than the God of traditional christians
A signal ahead of 'MISSIONARIES being called HOME' is that the fields will stagnate and they will start having trouble to find investigators. This is happening now or very soon. (Doesn't mean there won't be any, but it will drop in numbers). Note that when wars happen people are too stressed out to hardly pay attention to faith unless its planted in their hearts already. Its very hard to teach people that don't know when there next meal is, have extreme stress, problems.
It's happening in the Gentile nations. Church growth is stagnant or declining among these people's. The Church is really only growing by any meaningful numbers in Central/South America, the Phillipines, and Africa. In the US, the major growth is among immigrant or 2nd generation immigrant populations.
I really liked this
I don’t understand your placement of Adam Ondi Ahmen: “…before he stands on Mount Zion, or sets his feet on Olivet, or utters his voice from an American Zion or a Jewish Jerusalem; before all flesh shall see him together; before any of his appearances, which taken together comprise the second coming of the Son of God-before all these, there is to be a secret appearance to selected members of his Church…it will take place in Daviess County, Missouri, at a place called Adam-ondi-Ahman.” Bruce R. McConkie
The above quote is in many reference manuals and materials of the church. I am just curious why you place it where you do. Anyway, I really do love your channel - keep up the great content!
WoW, most recent general conference address that just happened the saturday evening session. Lots of talks about repentance than ending with a talk about apostasy and pride in the church and how in the book of mormon such things happened quickly. I also got to thinking about how the gospel will go forth to all the world. Isn't it possible that it sounding in EVERY ear, wont happen tell after Christ comes in glory?
Thank you for being a true saint…a scripture, the prophet Joseph and modern prophets sounding board.
Do you think it's possible, probably is, that the prophet will give us a definitive time like Samuel the Lamanite did? They say, basically, that the time is at hand, or close to it, but we have been hearing this for decades.
Just wondering if we will get an exact time like was done for those that were in the Americas.
President Nelson's closing remarks were notable: "Through the power of the sacred priesthood keys I hold, I declare this truth to you and to all the world!" (Oct 2024)
Thank you
Have you looked at the actual Greek on this? Just curious.
The news reports from the red sea is that there is life in it.
The Dead Sea
It's not the dead sea that has life, it is the dead sea basen. For the first time in thousands of years there are fish in the dead sea basen. It is not a fulfillment of the prophecy, but it is a start
@@GarySaint-xm6tr they were also saying that there were bacteria in THE dead sea...so...don't know. Didn't say anything about the basin.
".Fresh water is now flowing into this Rift Valley expanse that has been unable to support life since the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah ."
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Cool isn't it?
@@GarySaint-xm6tr according to the map it's smack dab in the middle of the Dead Sea. I'd say that's dang close or close enough.
Thank you for helping our homeless veterans because our current regime is abandoning them and helping people who are coming here illegally
Yes, its wonderful, Our Corrupt government can't give enough money to illegals, some are living in $500 a night posh hotels, while Veterans who fought for this country receive DIDDLY.
I may be in error, but I believe the missionaries were called home during covid...
Not all of them. Kevin has said in past videos he does not believe that fulfilled the prophecy.
Both Elder Faust and Elder Gong have stated that the Gospel has been taught to all the world, nation, kindred, and tongue.
Yes, I have heard those statements also.
Share the quotes with gospel lessons then and if you're interpreting them correctly, he'll mark it off the timeline.
Elder Gong said in 2020: "May we joyfully accept God’s invitation to receive and help fulfill His promised and prophesied blessings in all nations, kindreds, and tongues, I pray in the sacred and holy name of Jesus Christ, amen."
That seems to suggest it's yet to be done or ongoing.
Elder Faust said in April 2006: "The Apostle John saw in vision the time when another angel [would] fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people.” This prophecy has been fulfilled."
His talk is about the the restoration of the gospel and it seems he may be referring to the fact that the prophecy of the gospel being restored has been fulfilled. The paragraph prior to this quote and the two directly following it are all relating to the gospel being restored, not preached to every nation.
I would be interested to see what Mr. Prince has to say.
The gospel has nit been preached to North Korea
How can that be?? North Korea and several other communist countries have not even heard the gospel at all. Many other countries have yet to open its doors to missionaries.
Please don’t say things you don’t know what you’re talking about. You misunderstood what the apostles are actually saying. The gospel is spreading across the world 🌎 but definitely has not reached every single country.
Thanks
Genuine question: Does it say anywhere that it will be the restored gospel that will be preached to every nation kindred tounge and people? If not, I think it's fair to say Christ's gospel has been preached to the world in some form or another.
One could say if it's not the Restored gospel, it's not Christ's true gospel. So Catholicism being spread wouldn't count.
But there so much technology nowadays, where the gospel can be preached anywhere in the world!!!🌎🤍🕊️🤍
I think many take this prophecy too literally... every nation that WOULD have the gospel does have it. Sorry, but antagonistic nations will not receive the gospel (out of their own choice), thus the need for Christ to save the Jews during Armageddon.
This gospel has indeed been preached in every nation. There may be pockets of areas within nations that this gospel hasn’t been, but there are people in every nation who have it. In fact there was an article not that long ago written by Elder Gong where he identified this.
It says this about “The church of the Firstborn” which is what christs church is named during the Millenium, there are differences between the LDS church and the Church of the Firstborn, mainly the law of consecration etc…
The gospel will be preached throughout the world by the 144000 as well as the angels that fly through the midst of heaven as taught in Revelation
The angel that flew through heaven was the angel Maroni giving the everlasting gospel contained in the gold plates, which is the Book of Mormon
No it's not if that were true the 7th seal would be broken.
@@mustanggenerations691 Some argue that the 7th seal has indeed already been opened. I think this guy has a video on it.
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Yes. Joseph Smith said the seven seals are the seven thousand years temporal history of mankind. He said Chris will return shortly after the opening of the seventh seal, 2000 was roughly the opening of the seventh seal. A member does a timeline on events pertaining to the second coming based on Hebrew days, and holidays, and he has Christ's return between 2036 and 2042. That is Christ's second coming that issuesin the milinial reign. Christ has 3 other appearances before that. One may have already occurred
What about a video about the fall of the great and abominable church in the latter days and how it ties in with timelines?
awesome. thanks man!
I have a question. You mentioned that 1 day = 1,000 years (2 Peter 3:8), and came up with 1/2 hr. of silence being approx. 21 years. Why wouldn't you use this math: In Dan 9:24-27 a year in the Tribulation is a "day" (1 week = 7 yrs.) , so along the same lines as the subject calculation, why wouldn't you divide 360 days (Jewish year) by 48 "1/2 hours day", = 12 DAYS of silence in the Heavens, instead of 21 yrs.? If you think about it, because of today's technology, the world will know when He comes to the Jews. To think He will make us wait another 21 yrs. for his "2nd Coming" doesn't seem realistic.
That's a good point. I would just add some food for the thought: The Nephites had a CLEAR signal that Jesus Christ had been born. Even still, the mere fact that He didn't immediately come to them and the years passed by made them start questioning wether it was true or not. Yeah maybe the Jews will try and tell the world about it but for them to believe it is a whole other thing.
No one yet knows what this really means. Additionally, one could also speculate that an hour is a week. This is based on Christ saying to his mother during the wedding of Cana that “his hour is not yet come” and elsewhere in the scripture that talks of his final week as his hour. Thus 1/2 hour would be 1/2 of a week of 3 1/2 years which correlates to Daniel’s numbers (similar to time, times and half a time, or 1/2 the tribulation). I think this will be apparent either when it happens or when we are warned by our prophet.
Mistyped comment above. 1/2 of a week or 3 1/2 days. 3 1/2 seems to be a repeated pattern of time, times and half a time and also correlates to 1/2 of the tribulation.
you are also assuming that all the technology will be usable. Don't forget all the devastation that will be happening: the great scourge, great famine, great hailstorm, great earthquake, Armageddon. I could see a scenario where technology as we know it isn't working and we won't just be able to turn on the news and see the news chopper showing Jesus standing on the mount of olives.
You indicate that the gospel must be preached throughout the world prior to Christ's appearance on the mount of olives. D&C 45:54 says "And then shall the heathen nations be redeemed, and they that knew no law shall have part in the first resurrection; and it shall be tolerable for them." This happens after the Jews become converted. I have always interpreted this as many of the Muslim nations becoming converted because of what happens at Armageddon. Just some thoughts.
Where does this “seven-year” concept come from anyway? It may shock you, but if you look for “seven years of tribulation” in any concordance, you won’t find it. The truth is, from Genesis to Revelation, there is no exact passage that specifically mentions a seven-year period of tribulation at all. Amazingly, the entire theory is really based on a rather speculative interpretation of two little words in one single verse. The text is Daniel 9:27; and the two words are, “one week.” Let's go
1. The entire prophecy of Daniel 9:24-27 covers a period of “seventy weeks.” This period applies to one complete, sequential block of time. This prophecy would start during the Persian period and would end during the time of the Messiah.
2. Logic requires that the 70th week follow immediately after the 69th week. If it does not, then it cannot properly be called the 70th week!
3. It is illogical to insert a 2,000-year gap between the 69th and the 70th week. No hint of this gap is found in the prophecy itself. There is no gap between the first 7 weeks and the following 62 weeks. Why insert one between the 69th and the 70th week?
4. Daniel 9:27 says nothing about a seven-year period of tribulation, or about any Antichrist
5. The focus of this prophecy is the Messiah, not the Antichrist. Modern interpreters have applied “the people of the prince” who would come to “destroy the city and the sanctuary” (verse 26) to the Antichrist. Yet the text does not say this. In the past, that sentence has been applied to the Romans, who under Prince Titus did “destroy the city and the sanctuary” in'‘A.D. 70
6. “He shall confirm the covenant.” Jesus Christ came “to confirm the promises made unto the fathers.” Romans 15:8. Nowhere in the Bible is Antichrist ever said to make or confirm a covenant with anyone! The word “covenant” always applies to the Messiah, never to the Antichrist!
7. “He shall confirm the covenant with many.” Jesus said, “This is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many.” Matthew 26:28. Jesus used the same words, because He knew that He was fulfilling Daniel 9:27!
8. “In the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease.” The 70th week was from A.D. 27 to 34. After three and a half years of ministry, Christ died in A.D. 31, “in the midst [middle] of the week.” At the moment of His death, “the veil of the temple was rent [torn] in twain from the top to the bottom.” Matthew 27. The Great Sacrifice had been offered!
9. “For the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate.” Jesus plainly applied this “abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet” (Matthew 24:15) to the time when His followers were to flee from Jerusalem before the destruction of the second temple in A.D. 70. Jesus told His 12 disciples, “When ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies [the Roman armies led by Prince Titus], then know that its desolation is near.” Luke 21:20, emphasis added. Those disciples did “see” those very events. Christ’s very last words to the Pharisees from inside the second temple were, “Behold, (Your house is left unto you desolate.” Matthew 23:38. Thus Daniel’s prophecy about Jerusalem becoming “desolate” was exactly fulfilled in A.D. 70! Jesus understood this perfectly.
10. Gabriel said that the 70'week prophecy specifically applied to the Jewish people (see Daniel 9:24). During the period of Christ’s public ministry of 3 1/2 years, the Master’s focus was largely upon “the lost sheep of the house of Israel” (Matthew 10:6). After His resurrection and then for another 3 1/2 years, His disciples preached mostly to Jews (see Acts 1-6). After that second 3 1/2-year period, in 34 A.D., the bold Stephen was stoned by the Jewish Sanhedrin (see Acts 7). This infamous deed marked the then-ruling Jewish leaders’ final, official rejection of the gospel of our Savior. Then the gospel went to the Gentiles. In Acts 9, Saul became Paul, the “apostle to the Gentiles” (Romans 11:13). In Acts 10, God gave Peter a vision revealing it was now time to preach to the Gentiles(see Acts l0:1-28). Read also Acts (l3:46) Thus approximately 3 1/2 years after the crucifixion-and at the end of the 70-week prophecy given for the Jewish people-the gospel shifted to the Gentiles exactly as predicted in Bible prophecy.
The seventy weeks of Daniel therefore, have certainly ended many centuries ago. We are not to look to the future for the fulfillment of these predictions. We must look to the past. And if to the past; where is there one who can have any adequate claims to being the subject of these prophecies, but Jesus? He, and he only can claim them; and to him they most certainly refer.
one would think, the people [the Jews] among whom [these events] occurred, could not possibly have misapplied the prophecy. “But they did. In fact, one major reason why the Jewish nation as a whole failed to receive its Messiah was because its scholars misintetpreted Daniel (9:27.) They failed to see Jesus Christ as the predicted One who would die in the midst of the 70th week! Amazingly, the exact same thing is happening today. Sincere Christian scholars are now misapplying the very same prophecy. The entire “seven-year period of tribulation” theory is an end time delusion, a massive mega-myth. It may even go down in history as the “greatest evangelical misinterpretation of all time.” The whole concept is like a gigantic bubble. Once Daniel 9:27 is correctly understood and the sharply-pointed pin of truth is inserted, “Pop goes the seven years!” It’s a fact: There is no text in the Bible which teaches a “seven-year tribulation.” If you hunt for it, you’ll end up like Ponce de Leo searching for the mystical Fountain of Youth, but never finding it.
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Great video! Have you seen something about John Taylor's Last Days vision? I think it would fit in the half an hour of silence very well but could also be The Great Scourge.
I though Sister Wendy Nelson hinted that the gathering at Adam-ondi-Ahman has already occurred, did anyone else hear this, or have any thoughts?
That was a hyperthetical question.
@@elementsofmassage No she said it in one of her talks
@Autumn77077 of course...but wasn't she saying...what would you do if you knew this had happened? Not...this has already happened!
Sister Wendy Nelson said the following in 2016 at a worldwide devotional: "So, now a question as I conclude: What if you learned that the Savior had already returned to this earth-that He, as part of His Second Coming, had already met with some of His true followers in several marvelous, large gatherings-gatherings about which the world, including CNN and the blogosphere, knew nothing. If you found out that the Savior was already on the earth, what would you desperately want to do today, and what would you be willing and ready to do tomorrow?"
There's really no way to know what she is implying, if anything at all. Anything other than this exact quote is just speculation. She did not "hint" anything.
@ianvalentine278 What if...What would you do? Sounds hyperthetical to me.
Thank you! It’s all fascinating. I’m wondering if you get the chance if you could explain why you believe Adam Ondi Ahman will happen after Christ’s coming to Jerusalem and not during the tribulation.
Thanks much!
I thought the woman in Revelation referred to the Lord taking his ancient Church off the earth because of the apostasy?
Prophecies can have multiple fulfillments.
The sign of "Jonah" in Matthew is happening now. Read the book of Revelation.
I enjoy listening to Watcher Palmer and Ward radio, and ChristianHomestead. I don't think they 100 % agree with you're timelines though. But interesting to hear you're perspectives.
4:10 Mark of the Beast is Mark of the Government
I feel like all this stuff will go out the window and the Savior will come when we least expect him to.
The savior would never do that. That would make his prophets false prophets for prophesying stuff that didn't happen. Christ and god are gods of truth. It's why we can put our full faith in them. The only deceiver is Satan.
You should both read the Joseph Smith Translation of Luke 12:41-57
The Lord teaches that He is coming as a thief in the night, but those who watch and are ready will see Him coming.
So you are both right!
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3.5 years not 7
I just don’t see how every country will hear of the restored gospel of Jesus Christ. Things are getting worse in the world. Not better.
Mosiah 4:9 "Believe in God; believe that he is, and that he created all things, both in heaven and in earth; believe that he has all wisdom, and all power, both in heaven and in earth; believe that man doth not comprehend all the things which the Lord can comprehend."
The great earthquake occurs in the 6th seal, likely near the end of the first 3.5 year period of the tribulation. The events described in Revelation 8 & 9 occur in the beginning of the 7th seal as it describes in D&C 77 verses 12-13. Also, according to several scriptures, the Jews and the House of Israel are not gathered back to the lands of their inheritance until after they believe in Christ as it states in 2nd Nephi 10:7-9. The kings and queens of the gentiles are the righteous remnant who believe the marred servant who brings forth the words of Christ. Most members of the church will reject this individual and will be cut off from the covenant and be trodden under foot of the remnant of Jacob. This is the Lords great and marvelous work which causes a massive division in the church and the world as it states in 1st Nephi 14:7.
Then after this division the mother of abominations gathers up multitudes against those who believe this servant and are protected by the power of God. As those who fight against this righteous remnant they will begin to war among themselves initiating the great tribulation as nation rises against nation among the gentiles. Nephi isn't able to write more because it was given to John to write the rest and this is where the little horn/King of Assyria/Beast and false prophet arise to destroy and enslave the world for 3.5 years as the righteous remnant escapes this judgment upon the world.
The beast or little horn is destroyed after the first 3.5 year period as judgment is decreed upon him to be removed from power at Adam-Ohndi-Ahman. After this nation and the world has been greatly depopulated under the Antichrist rule of terror, Zion is established, built up, and the Lord's covenant people inherit the desolate cities and houses of the gentiles and they will greatly outnumber the current population of the church. Once Zion is established, the Lord and the 144,000 high priests under the commission of John the Revelator and other angels will begin gathering all those who will come to Zion and the church of the first born. The two witnesses begin their ministry in Jerusalem at this time as well. Then as it states from my house shall it begin (under the antichrist's depopulation and enslavement of the world and particularly America, from my house shall it go forth. And the world wide plagues and destructions mentioned in Revelation 8 & 9 occur.
The 144,000 are sealed up and protected from these disasters as they gather out the righteous to Zion who will be the only people not at war with one another. It will be a place of refuge and safety from these destructions. Proof that the Antichrist and false prophet are destroyed at the midpoint is because the evil spirits that possessed them will come out of them and deceive the Kings of the east to bring war to Jerusalem. Both the beast and the false prophet are cast into perdition. They are individuals as it states in 2nd Nephi 25 that a false messiah would arise and attempt to deceive the Jews.
This sounds like Avraham Gileadi's teachings.
@@abeck78 It's what the scriptures say.
Daniel 7:25-26, Saints are put into the hand of the antichrist for about 3 ½ years. Who would give Saints to the antichrist half way through the 7 years? No one! Are the first 3½ years the time-line?
What is day 1,335 in Daniel 12:12? Ask any Post trib teacher and they will say "I don't know. I was taught 7 years". Day 1,335 is the day if the Lord.
The fig tree parable is not about the generation that sees Isreal reborn. Now 76 years, a generation is not that long. The parable is about summer that comes after you see a bud on a fig tree or any tree.
When you see sacrifices in Isreal stopped at the abomination of desolation, we rise with the two witnesses on the day Jesus returns just 6 weeks later.
We Already Living In The Tribulation Times And The Last Days Right Now Before The Second Coming of Jesus Christ Take Places
This is literally an entire video explaining why that is not the case......
Lovers of truth and lovers of Humanity are having an easier time than the rest.
You can check your moral compass by asking where you stand on the genocide that Israel is committing in Gaza.
By the power of the Holy Ghost you shall the truth of all things.
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This makes no sense
Oh please get serious! You can't even define genocide because it's obvious you don't know what it is. 🤡
I wonder if the if the people living in Israel would feel the same as you