want to bet that his Prime deal is under risk of his scumbag reputation? the only thing that would make this guy give up money is fear of losing more money.
For a multi millionaire, you’d think he can pay everyone who lost money easily and to fix is already horrible reputation but no, he disappoints yet again
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@@Mr.LightshineI’m a Christian and this still annoys me, can people stop spamming this when it’s completely irrelevant to what we’re talking about. like seriously don’t just start yapping about religion out of nowhere
For someone who sold a billion bottles of energy drinks, you'd think that he would pay everything with ease but the process will be as hard as possible to make him preserve every cent
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honestly same, this again could all be for show. who knows what they’ll actually do once the disputes are submitted. hopefully they’ll all get their monies back
Not only is he a year late, he’s actually getting smoked legally right now, so he’s likely using this program to prevent the victims from getting more compensation in the future
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Do you have a good link so I could learn more of his legal situation? I haven't seen anything of it and would be very interested since you brought it up!
It’s not a refund, he’s proposing a settlement to avoid getting sued. He’s hoping people opt for what’s cheaper for him. I’m glad you are talking about this I really hope the lawsuit is pushed harder and he loses out way more.
It's all to save himself. First, they have to sign that they won't pursue further legal action, and second - each refund drops the severity of the case because he currently owes millions, but if he refunds then he owes 100,000s which would drop the severity of the charges dramatically.
Indeed, misleading at least a little? Charlie says, “It’s good over all,” but it’s really not. There’s no compensation and no right to discuss what happened any further. All of the participants have lost way more than their initial investment. Paul has calculated (or his lawyers have) that it’s cheaper to pay people to sign NDA’s and immunise him against the class action coming, than it is to face them in court. The evidence against him is largely on video and overwhelming. The direct contradictions between what his last offer says and his public statements about that, against what he said when advertising Crypto Zoo, is stark. I hope no one takes his offer. They need to demand their losses of interest, their lawyer’s fees and compensation for distress and any lost business opportunities that resulted from being suddenly broke. None of that changes the fact that they were all idiots for believing in Paul in the first place, incapable of due diligence or even basic reason. But just being stupid doesn’t make them wrong. Just suckers.
I 100% believe Logan wouldn't be doing shit if people hadn't pressured him very recently. There's no way in this universe that he just now is able to deliver on his "promise". Logans just hoping his fanbase lacks object permanence and we forget about it after it hasn't been mentioned for a year
This infuriates me, he besically encouraged them to invest, and that went downhill. HE HAS THE MONEY TO REFUND, but he won't. Wild how there is little accountability. I hope the victims take full legal action and get fully reimbursed.
At this point, the victims are almost entitled to _more_ money due to the nefarious nature and you can easily argue that they could have invested the money elsewhere in safe low yeald earnings, which means a loss of potential revenue. Though I would settle for their money back at this point, because Logan would drag his feet paying people more than what he thinks they deserve.
"This isn't for the people who gambled on the crypto market and lost" but also "Crypto Zoo was never meant to be an investment vehicle " How could it be a gamble if it was never an investment?
The thing that infurates me is that he steals, scam, all of this, everyone knows and no one is doing something. Wwe is paying him, giving him even a title. He have prime and make a lot with that s. And still knowing he is a thief and a criminal, wwe is doing absolutely nothing, they are fine with him doing what he wants. The fan base justify the bs saying he is good performance. And im pretty sure he is going to be equally relevant in everything after all this bs. He is paying 10% of the stealing money, not doing the game and he is laughing and his fans justify him.... there is not justice in this issue 😅. The people is just not giving an f
Not taking accountability is a very common theme with grandiose narcissists. Even if he pays people back it's purely to save face and/or avoid more trouble.
My partner bought Prime to “try” and I actually got mad at him for it and he said “I don’t care about TH-cam drama”. It’s not TH-cam drama- one half of the outward facing team behind Prime scammed people out of millions of dollars on the back of a fake game scam.
even prime itself is a scam. it's marketed as an energy drink but has exactly the wrong ingredients to be effective as one; literally "nutrition 101"-tier defects. philion has a good breakdown of it
It just sounds like he was genuinely trying it and didn't know about the scam. Your logic of putting "Try" in quotes is assuming that he's some kind of shill for Logan Paul. What he did is like buying Kellogg's cereal--the company is evil, but you probably aren't going to think about it when buying Froot Loops.
There's a few things to keep in mind with this: 1. Logan still teamed up with known crypto scammers for this project, no matter how he spins it the decision to work with them was his and his 'I was bamboozled' statement holds up as well as it did for SBF. 2. Logan Paul had a net worth of $150 million in 2023, the amount he is putting to one side for this is 1.5% of that and doesn't come close to the total amount people lost because of him. 3. No word on if he has paid his developers anything yet. You know, the people that took the code because they weren't being paid for the work they were doing. 4. This is a clear attempt to try and stop the lawsuit or at least decrease the damage it's going to do. 5. Nobody would have been paid anything if Coffeezilla hadn't made his videos last year, Logan would have shrugged his shoulders and just let the thing die over a year ago. Just like he did with his other failed Crypto projects, that he hasn't refunded anyone for.
Also, not sure if this is him personally buying the nft's back or if its just going back to the company, but buying right now is actually smart because the prices have fallen so far and we are on the verge of another crypto bullrun. This literally could just be another way for him to make more money from this scam (buying now and then sellling mid 2025 again at the peak of the bullrun, just like last time). thats just a thought though cuz im very into the crypto space and its something no one else has mentioned.
mark: "What am I supposed to do with all these useless eggs you told me to invest in?" Logan: "What? These aren't eggs. They were made in a scam factory... they're scams"
Throwing your money into a functional slot machine is gambling your money away. Throwing your money into a broken slot machine that nobody addressed or refunded is being scammed.
I mean, without the pressure from well known and respected people like you (and definitely if we didn’t have the investigation by coffee and his collaborators), I believe we would have never m got this far. Respect the hustle and making sure celebrities are kept accountable for their mistakes. Three years and we have been blessed with regular updates throughout the years. People are easy to forget things, but I’m glad the community stood strong on this one!
My prediction is that he'll refund people who bought small amounts and just leave the people who bought medium-large amounts to dry since they were "crypto gambling".
I mean, they were. They tried to do exactly what he does: get other people to buy shit for a price it's not worth it, and win. Everyone in a pyramid scheme is a bad guy, not just the top. Everyone. Not equally guilty of course, but guilty
He's not refunding anything, he's basically giving people who qualify nebulous standards $250 in exchange for not joining/dropping out of the class action lawsuit that totally coincidentally has just been set to go to trial.
This reminds me of those quests in every RPG ever where you have the option to hand over the key, mission item to a more nefarious character for a greater reward. Only the actual receiving of said reward is a whole quest line in and of itself. And it can end with the scumbag just going, "nah".
I'm glad I watched Coffeezilla's vid first to know that he is in fact NOT finally doing it... he's trying to buy the silence of his victims by offering back a small fraction of what he stole.
Also, whoever excepts to getting this small percentage of their money back is also basically signing an NDA and agreeing that in return for this small percentage of what they spent they are no longer able to sue
not even, this is an investment by the cryptozoo company again, theyre buying back all their tokens and NFT's right before the 2024-2025 bullrun. i GUARANTEE you crypto is going to pop off again, meaning they scammed these people, dumped the price, and are now buying back right before the price is going to rise again. shits pretty fucked up
Logan: I'll give back a small percentage of your money that I stole as long as you give me legal right to the rest of your money that I stole. His "fans": OKAY! Love you! You're a maverick !
His lawyers and handlers are the ones managing his life. They saved his career when he showed a dead body in the Forrest after acting ignorant and disrespectful in Japan. How Logan still on social media is still mind boggling when realizing people getting removed left and right for the most non significant things.
I dont think the forest thing was real. Rather it was a prank that then unexpectedly got taken seriously, which they then decided to run with. Thats my impression anyway.
@@roozki808 which is why he chose to film the prank there. Not only would it be hugely unlikely for him to stumble on a victim there ( its a huge huge place) but even more unlikely that he would then edit together a comedy themed video of the event ( and upload it) complete with skits and jokes if it WAS real. I think it was just a really bad taste joke that was so bad taste that when people thought it was real, it was easier to just go with it.
he isn't even doing the bare minimum. He's going to give back around 2 million out of the 18 million he scammed from people and he's even saying that's only if people drop the case for the full amount of money (which he is losing). Also I learnt this from Coffeezilla.
The only reason he's doing this is solely because he knows he's going to get slapped around in court and is just trying to lighten the blow when he loses.
It's not even a full refund, and one of the conditions of people accepting it is that they waive their legal rights to sue him in the future over this. Which is practically the definition of an unenforceable clause. Charlie is an idiot for believing this crap. Coffeezilla fully explains it on his channel.
Everyone who accepts this signs a legal waver not to sue him. It is a partial refund and I believe it is intended to weaken the class action lawsuit against him. Everyone he can "convert" from the lawsuit to this partial refund is a win for him. Also don't forget KSI is referring to the victims as "haters" remember who these people were when they revealed their true selves!
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This is hysterical because a dude worth many millions of dollars couldn’t promptly refund one million dollars to his fans one year ago in order to prove he wasn’t a scammer to them. What a total scumbag.
Man. The amount of rich people who got away with conning common people with little to no money is crazy😂 not a single one of them suffered any consequences. I'm honestly surprised no one did an act of violence or something to get some sort of retribution. They just all rode off into the sunset with money extracted directly from their fans. Imagine stealing from a bunch of people and your punishment is still having fans, being richer, and no one doing any legal action.
I found it funny that he has only JUST NOW did it after larger creators such as Mutahar have made videos mentioning how he has not refunded their victims
That does not change the fact that there are 49 million kangaroos in Australia and 3.5 million people in Uruguay. That means if the kangaroos were to invade Uruguay, each person would have to fight 14 Kangaroos
There is no such thing as being "good" in WWE. Matches are basically movie scripts. And he is "good" because he either 1) pays them to be "good" for the publicity or 2) has a lofty contract with them to be "good" because of the numbers he brings to their "sport".
Dude has tens of millions, if not more, so he could've paid back much sooner for his scam and in full, but chose not to and is finally doing it... but to protect himself. It's sad that so many people support him.
I would, people generally prefer safety over risk, that's why every big company in trouble always does the "we'll give you a little if you stop suing" move. Logan's legal team knows that full well.
More like much more for what theym're owned, remember Logan is only "refunding" to 12% of his victims. Not to mention for only a month which is an extremely short time to reclaim money.
Finally someone with a brain told him that destroying his name isn't worth $2.3 million. To be clear, he still thinks this is HIS money, he deserves it, and the people who gave it to him are morons. The last part is true.
So instead of going to jail where he belongs, he's going to refund a fraction of what people lost due to the scam he lured them into, all in return for them waiving the right to sue him for his crimes? What a hero!
It took the collective arm twisting of the internet just to get this guy to make an effort to give the money back. And even then, he still tries to throw the victims under the bus.
Here's the funny thing: he's not doing it because he had a change of morality, he's doing it because he has been under fire for enough time
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lol no, he’s doing it to take as much heat from the lawsuit against him away
exactly, hes only doing it now because he realised he actually might lose the lawsuit against him
@@landob3302thats basically what he said😂
want to bet that his Prime deal is under risk of his scumbag reputation?
the only thing that would make this guy give up money is fear of losing more money.
He's sort of doing it, and trying to weasel out of liability while doing it. What a professional.
I agree. He's truly a US Champion
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@@p-__ nobody's farts are better than Charlies. also, you won't reply to this because you're a bot lol
Pro dumbass yeah
@@CarterNewton-j5o my hair is better than Charlie's
For a multi millionaire, you’d think he can pay everyone who lost money easily and to fix is already horrible reputation but no, he disappoints yet again
It's almost as if taking people money was his plan from the start 🤔🤔🤔
What reputation? Hes been a piece of shit since the vine days
People are dumb... even some smart people.
He'll scam again.
@@jontesty1011he's already selling a scam with ksi
Multi-millionaire is lowballing it. He could potentially be a billionaire as prime is not worth billions.
This isn't a "im gonna refund you guys" this is a "give you $250 if you dont sue me"
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@@Mr.LightshineI’m a Christian and this still annoys me, can people stop spamming this when it’s completely irrelevant to what we’re talking about.
like seriously don’t just start yapping about religion out of nowhere
@@carpet3827Im an atheist but i appreciate u for being the good type of Christian
@@Mr.Lightshine Since he rose again didn't he just give up his weekend for our sins? Sounds like it completely invalidates his actions
For someone who sold a billion bottles of energy drinks, you'd think that he would pay everything with ease but the process will be as hard as possible to make him preserve every cent
I also bet that thr process of submitting proof that you've been scammed is also complicated beyond hell so that majority gives up on it
Literally yes, the lawsuit he cited also sues him
@@KrishnaAmritAnantaDevadidevme lol. They’re okay, nothing special.
@@KrishnaAmritAnantaDevadidevHe’s a social media influencer. Who tf would buy that aside from little kids?
He's not paying back the full amount, and to receive any money you have to sign a waiver to not sue Logan. What a dick
Honestly until the money is returned and in the victims accounts I’m still doubtful if he’s going to pay them back even with this.
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honestly same, this again could all be for show. who knows what they’ll actually do once the disputes are submitted. hopefully they’ll all get their monies back
Not only is he a year late, he’s actually getting smoked legally right now, so he’s likely using this program to prevent the victims from getting more compensation in the future
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That is the entire reason he's doing this, you waive any legal rights to accept the pittance he's paying out.
Do you have a good link so I could learn more of his legal situation? I haven't seen anything of it and would be very interested since you brought it up!
He's got so many connections, any possible repercussions will be delayed by decades
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Plans to sue “bad actors”
What is he going to sue _himself?_
@@Muezza025 tf you talking about?
@@Muezza025common bot L😞
@@EmbryThePoppliohe’s just a logan paul stan
@@Elite_DefenderIt's a bot
@@Muezza025 Irony
It’s not a refund, he’s proposing a settlement to avoid getting sued. He’s hoping people opt for what’s cheaper for him. I’m glad you are talking about this I really hope the lawsuit is pushed harder and he loses out way more.
It's all to save himself. First, they have to sign that they won't pursue further legal action, and second - each refund drops the severity of the case because he currently owes millions, but if he refunds then he owes 100,000s which would drop the severity of the charges dramatically.
“Finally doing it” is a strong set of words to use once you see the bullshit he is trying to pull yet again
exactly. more words and he still hasnt paid back a penny. a cant believe Charlie fell for another one of Logans lies.
Indeed, misleading at least a little? Charlie says, “It’s good over all,” but it’s really not. There’s no compensation and no right to discuss what happened any further. All of the participants have lost way more than their initial investment.
Paul has calculated (or his lawyers have) that it’s cheaper to pay people to sign NDA’s and immunise him against the class action coming, than it is to face them in court. The evidence against him is largely on video and overwhelming. The direct contradictions between what his last offer says and his public statements about that, against what he said when advertising Crypto Zoo, is stark. I hope no one takes his offer. They need to demand their losses of interest, their lawyer’s fees and compensation for distress and any lost business opportunities that resulted from being suddenly broke.
None of that changes the fact that they were all idiots for believing in Paul in the first place, incapable of due diligence or even basic reason. But just being stupid doesn’t make them wrong. Just suckers.
It’s sarcasm
Why are these scammers allowed to steal people’s money w no repercussions 😒
@@ashroskellwho is "we" lmao
I 100% believe Logan wouldn't be doing shit if people hadn't pressured him very recently. There's no way in this universe that he just now is able to deliver on his "promise". Logans just hoping his fanbase lacks object permanence and we forget about it after it hasn't been mentioned for a year
He isn't wrong, his fan's memory reset every 5 minutes 💀
Well, his audience DOES consist of actual children or those with the mental capacity of one.
which will happen. he recorded a dead body, hes still on the platform.
@@BenDover_Jr Explain what you mean by having the mental capacity of a child, as if that's supposed to be an insult.
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Here is the prime example of what I mean by having the mental capacity of a child.
Nice username, really brings it all together.
This infuriates me, he besically encouraged them to invest, and that went downhill. HE HAS THE MONEY TO REFUND, but he won't. Wild how there is little accountability. I hope the victims take full legal action and get fully reimbursed.
At this point, the victims are almost entitled to _more_ money due to the nefarious nature and you can easily argue that they could have invested the money elsewhere in safe low yeald earnings, which means a loss of potential revenue. Though I would settle for their money back at this point, because Logan would drag his feet paying people more than what he thinks they deserve.
"This isn't for the people who gambled on the crypto market and lost" but also "Crypto Zoo was never meant to be an investment vehicle "
How could it be a gamble if it was never an investment?
Victims? Lmao. Any shorrtbus that was gullible enough to invest in a LOGAN PAUL CRYPTO ZOO has everything coming to them and deserve zero sympathy.
The thing that infurates me is that he steals, scam, all of this, everyone knows and no one is doing something. Wwe is paying him, giving him even a title. He have prime and make a lot with that s. And still knowing he is a thief and a criminal, wwe is doing absolutely nothing, they are fine with him doing what he wants. The fan base justify the bs saying he is good performance. And im pretty sure he is going to be equally relevant in everything after all this bs. He is paying 10% of the stealing money, not doing the game and he is laughing and his fans justify him.... there is not justice in this issue 😅. The people is just not giving an f
Not taking accountability is a very common theme with grandiose narcissists. Even if he pays people back it's purely to save face and/or avoid more trouble.
It's still not over though, a couple of lawyers already broke it down and the intentions are still scummy. This man cannot stop being a walking L
many years later and he still has severe, continuous lapses in judgement
Logan claiming to be blameless has the same energy as CEO blaming all of his employees for the bad decisions
Why did it take so long? Dude is more than well off to pay everyone back right away.
@@Muezza025 ironic
he was more than well off enough to not scam in the first place but he still did it
@@Muezza025 Whos "we"?
@@naiveparsley2917 Ignore them, just a dumb kid, or a bot
4:56 As Coffeezilla said, hes getting beat down by a lawsuit so hes trying to take firepower away from it.
Coffeezilla's response to this is awesome. He really digs into it.
My partner bought Prime to “try” and I actually got mad at him for it and he said “I don’t care about TH-cam drama”. It’s not TH-cam drama- one half of the outward facing team behind Prime scammed people out of millions of dollars on the back of a fake game scam.
Plus its not even good
@@lazycedi22 Even suger water taste better lmao
Most of company is evil. Most worker even need tips to survive. Is not reasonable to demanding someone to follow someone ideal life style.
even prime itself is a scam. it's marketed as an energy drink but has exactly the wrong ingredients to be effective as one; literally "nutrition 101"-tier defects. philion has a good breakdown of it
It just sounds like he was genuinely trying it and didn't know about the scam. Your logic of putting "Try" in quotes is assuming that he's some kind of shill for Logan Paul. What he did is like buying Kellogg's cereal--the company is evil, but you probably aren't going to think about it when buying Froot Loops.
I hope no one takes this and just continue with the lawsuit. He needs finally be taught a lesson.
There's a few things to keep in mind with this:
1. Logan still teamed up with known crypto scammers for this project, no matter how he spins it the decision to work with them was his and his 'I was bamboozled' statement holds up as well as it did for SBF.
2. Logan Paul had a net worth of $150 million in 2023, the amount he is putting to one side for this is 1.5% of that and doesn't come close to the total amount people lost because of him.
3. No word on if he has paid his developers anything yet. You know, the people that took the code because they weren't being paid for the work they were doing.
4. This is a clear attempt to try and stop the lawsuit or at least decrease the damage it's going to do.
5. Nobody would have been paid anything if Coffeezilla hadn't made his videos last year, Logan would have shrugged his shoulders and just let the thing die over a year ago. Just like he did with his other failed Crypto projects, that he hasn't refunded anyone for.
Also, not sure if this is him personally buying the nft's back or if its just going back to the company, but buying right now is actually smart because the prices have fallen so far and we are on the verge of another crypto bullrun. This literally could just be another way for him to make more money from this scam (buying now and then sellling mid 2025 again at the peak of the bullrun, just like last time). thats just a thought though cuz im very into the crypto space and its something no one else has mentioned.
mark: "What am I supposed to do with all these useless eggs you told me to invest in?"
Logan: "What? These aren't eggs. They were made in a scam factory... they're scams"
That one scam was 40 eggs?
I love random references like this. Spongebob in its glory days was the _best_ show as a kid, or was at least one of them.
He's only paying back about 12% of the total money he should be paying back.
He's not buying back the NFTs, he's buying their silence
He’s only giving the refund because he had a severe and continuous lapse in his judgement
if he can unironically sell prime then he can pay everyone back double the amount they invested
true
More than double. He said with the current valuation of Prime, if he completely sells out, he is under but close to $1B
Not even close lol he owns 10% of prime
@@zero_stars where did you get this from? The info is currently private, so I am interested in the source
@@zero_stars still close to if not 100m
Crazy thing tho is the fine print often includes non-enforceable clauses such as “oh you still can’t sue me tho if you buy back”
Throwing your money into a functional slot machine is gambling your money away. Throwing your money into a broken slot machine that nobody addressed or refunded is being scammed.
Hes only doing this to minimise his liability. He owes people 17 million but only paying back like 2 million
I mean, without the pressure from well known and respected people like you (and definitely if we didn’t have the investigation by coffee and his collaborators), I believe we would have never m got this far. Respect the hustle and making sure celebrities are kept accountable for their mistakes. Three years and we have been blessed with regular updates throughout the years. People are easy to forget things, but I’m glad the community stood strong on this one!
My prediction is that he'll refund people who bought small amounts and just leave the people who bought medium-large amounts to dry since they were "crypto gambling".
I mean, they were. They tried to do exactly what he does: get other people to buy shit for a price it's not worth it, and win.
Everyone in a pyramid scheme is a bad guy, not just the top. Everyone. Not equally guilty of course, but guilty
He refunding 12%
@@animeuniverse5586that’s so sad considering this scam went over 7 mill.
He's not refunding anything, he's basically giving people who qualify nebulous standards $250 in exchange for not joining/dropping out of the class action lawsuit that totally coincidentally has just been set to go to trial.
Coffeezilla clarified: he is literally not doing it. He isn't even offering the minimum
This reminds me of those quests in every RPG ever where you have the option to hand over the key, mission item to a more nefarious character for a greater reward.
Only the actual receiving of said reward is a whole quest line in and of itself.
And it can end with the scumbag just going, "nah".
Anyone else notice the "13 year old boys" tab Charlie had open the whole time?
Please use your eyes, it says “13 year old bea…” It most definitely doesn’t say 13 year old boys unless you really want it to say that.
he's only refunding one category, while getting anyone who accepts the refund to waive all other claims against him.
it's a trap
I'm glad I watched Coffeezilla's vid first to know that he is in fact NOT finally doing it... he's trying to buy the silence of his victims by offering back a small fraction of what he stole.
He’s not doing something good, he’s just losing the lawsuit and doesn’t want to take another L
Also, whoever excepts to getting this small percentage of their money back is also basically signing an NDA and agreeing that in return for this small percentage of what they spent they are no longer able to sue
"What do you mean they remembered I promised to refund them?!? It's been so long!"
He's doing 12% of it.
He would do the “right thing” cause he knows there are strings attached.
I would, personally, not even refer to this as a refund. From my perspective, this is a bribe.
not even, this is an investment by the cryptozoo company again, theyre buying back all their tokens and NFT's right before the 2024-2025 bullrun. i GUARANTEE you crypto is going to pop off again, meaning they scammed these people, dumped the price, and are now buying back right before the price is going to rise again. shits pretty fucked up
Logan: I'll give back a small percentage of your money that I stole as long as you give me legal right to the rest of your money that I stole.
His "fans": OKAY! Love you! You're a maverick !
Worst thing is he isn’t even giving a full refund
There are so many caveats to his refund it’s disgusting
His lawyers and handlers are the ones managing his life. They saved his career when he showed a dead body in the Forrest after acting ignorant and disrespectful in Japan.
How Logan still on social media is still mind boggling when realizing people getting removed left and right for the most non significant things.
I dont think the forest thing was real. Rather it was a prank that then unexpectedly got taken seriously, which they then decided to run with. Thats my impression anyway.
@@vlnowBig fucking L to that thought my dude. It was real, that fucking forest is known as the suicide forest for a REASON
Same reason... *she* is.
@@roozki808 which is why he chose to film the prank there. Not only would it be hugely unlikely for him to stumble on a victim there ( its a huge huge place) but even more unlikely that he would then edit together a comedy themed video of the event ( and upload it) complete with skits and jokes if it WAS real.
I think it was just a really bad taste joke that was so bad taste that when people thought it was real, it was easier to just go with it.
It's because of how much money he brings in for TH-cam and other Social Media platforms.
he isn't even doing the bare minimum. He's going to give back around 2 million out of the 18 million he scammed from people and he's even saying that's only if people drop the case for the full amount of money (which he is losing). Also I learnt this from Coffeezilla.
Hope he gets even more lawsuits after this, though im sure plenty of people will just spring for the payout
surprising from a dude that admited to be a sociopath
This means less than nothing until it’s actually done
The only reason he's doing this is solely because he knows he's going to get slapped around in court and is just trying to lighten the blow when he loses.
I'll beleive it when it actually happens. I'll also be shocked if tons don't get scammed out of proper compensation because of the "fine print".
It's not even a full refund, and one of the conditions of people accepting it is that they waive their legal rights to sue him in the future over this. Which is practically the definition of an unenforceable clause. Charlie is an idiot for believing this crap. Coffeezilla fully explains it on his channel.
Everyone who accepts this signs a legal waver not to sue him. It is a partial refund and I believe it is intended to weaken the class action lawsuit against him. Everyone he can "convert" from the lawsuit to this partial refund is a win for him.
Also don't forget KSI is referring to the victims as "haters" remember who these people were when they revealed their true selves!
And he even managed to fuck this up....
Hes finally pretending to do a refund !
He's finally taking all the strength he has and is now capable of decimating his weaknesses to pulp.
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His weaknesses won
Doing what?
Avoiding accountability for the umteenth time? lol
This is hysterical because a dude worth many millions of dollars couldn’t promptly refund one million dollars to his fans one year ago in order to prove he wasn’t a scammer to them. What a total scumbag.
must be another lapse in his judgement
He should be paying interest at this point
Like Charlie said if the victims are happy that’s all that matters. Personally I won’t believe it until it’s proven by the victims themselves.
Man. The amount of rich people who got away with conning common people with little to no money is crazy😂 not a single one of them suffered any consequences. I'm honestly surprised no one did an act of violence or something to get some sort of retribution. They just all rode off into the sunset with money extracted directly from their fans. Imagine stealing from a bunch of people and your punishment is still having fans, being richer, and no one doing any legal action.
I didn’t know you could sue yourself. Learn something new everyday.
its like refunding the DLC's for a game but not the game you bought that wont be released.
How tf can someone mess up this badly for like 8 years straight
I found it funny that he has only JUST NOW did it after larger creators such as Mutahar have made videos mentioning how he has not refunded their victims
This just seems like a way to slow up or effect the class action lawsuit
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He shouldn't be getting any props at all. None
He…he’s not doing it…
That does not change the fact that there are 49 million kangaroos in Australia and 3.5 million people in Uruguay. That means if the kangaroos were to invade Uruguay, each person would have to fight 14 Kangaroos
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i still can’t believe this man is a champion for wwe, no matter how good he is
fooling children is basically what made pro-wrestling successful. it's the perfect job for Logan.
@@merphul no actual good storylines and great characters made it so successful but i agree logan is good at scamming kids 😭
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There is no such thing as being "good" in WWE. Matches are basically movie scripts. And he is "good" because he either 1) pays them to be "good" for the publicity or 2) has a lofty contract with them to be "good" because of the numbers he brings to their "sport".
@@Infamous159 ain’t nobody was talking to u , how about just keep spamming comments under this video ?
Dude has tens of millions, if not more, so he could've paid back much sooner for his scam and in full, but chose not to and is finally doing it... but to protect himself.
It's sad that so many people support him.
When I saw he said he was suing the “bad actors” my brain immediately defaulted to thinking “how’s he going to sue himself?”
it tak like 2 years and many lawsuits but it finally happened (i will be not surprised if he doesn't actually do this)
he was never going to do it lol, all this is is giving people back less then what they spent to get them off his ass in court
I’ve been watching AttorneyTom for a couple of years now, And he’s honestly the fucking GOAT for doing this lawsuit!!!!!
I wouldn't be surprised if there were people who'd turn down the refund in order to sue him for much more than what they lost 🤷🏾♀️
They should all do that, take him to court and have him forced to pay them in full or more
I would, people generally prefer safety over risk, that's why every big company in trouble always does the "we'll give you a little if you stop suing" move. Logan's legal team knows that full well.
More like much more for what theym're owned, remember Logan is only "refunding" to 12% of his victims. Not to mention for only a month which is an extremely short time to reclaim money.
couldn't handle the heat.
imagine getting scammed and only being promised like loyalty points a year later
Finally someone with a brain told him that destroying his name isn't worth $2.3 million. To be clear, he still thinks this is HIS money, he deserves it, and the people who gave it to him are morons. The last part is true.
Saddest thing about this is that at the end of the day, he will look like the hero for a big part of the internet
Never in my life would I think Logan Paul would actually even consider doing the right thing for his own actions.
So instead of going to jail where he belongs, he's going to refund a fraction of what people lost due to the scam he lured them into, all in return for them waiving the right to sue him for his crimes? What a hero!
He isn’t even paying all of it back, trying to weasel his way out of the lawsuit
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I'm dumbfounded Logan actually did the bare minimum. I didn't even expect that much.
Well ... is more like half of the bare minimum but still... can't believe that happened 🤣🤣🤣
Another Lie.
so it's basically just an out-of-court cash settlement disguised as a refund.
This all could have been avoided if he just didn’t scam them in the first place.
He is ONLY doing it so that he doesn't have to pay lawsuits outs. It doesn't even have to do with him being under public scrutiny, its so bad.
It took the collective arm twisting of the internet just to get this guy to make an effort to give the money back. And even then, he still tries to throw the victims under the bus.
This was essentially an interest fee loan he took out from his fans for the 3 years
I'm guessing he's gonna sue himself too then if he's sueing all bad actors. 😂
Not only long overdue, but he's not even doing because he SHOULD, he's doing it because he wants the flak to stop.
He can still be sued for fraud as the white paper detailed no mention of nefarious acts to lose your money
Even his refunds are a scam
Logan is that guy who hit your car and offers you a $50 bill from his wallet to not involve the authorities
He’s not giving full refunds. It’s 12% of the total with loads of strings attached and a short time limit.
Cmon, there's no way logan wrote a single character of that post.