Necessity of complex numbers

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  • MIT 8.04 Quantum Physics I, Spring 2016
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    Instructor: Barton Zwiebach
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  • @andrewchen2673
    @andrewchen2673 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3693

    See you all next year when the algorithm brings us back

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      @MrSpaceCrunk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Andrew Chen Hahaha had to laugh so hard!

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      @CarlosGomez-lp9zi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi bud

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      @khaledadrani3184 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It actually did. Interesting.

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      @gheorghegeorgescu7846 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

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      @kartikrathore5720 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

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  • @m.raedallulu4166
    @m.raedallulu4166 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1811

    7:00 (When very good physicist are wrong, they are not wrong for silly reasons, but they are wrong for good reasons, and we can learn from their thinking.)
    I love it!

    • @eloymarquez4783
      @eloymarquez4783 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Booom

    • @larrykinglk
      @larrykinglk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Love it too. Very inspiring!

    • @jasonsmith4114
      @jasonsmith4114 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      When something sounds right but is also actually right, great quotes are made.

    • @TruMystery
      @TruMystery 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      stfu brainlet

    • @declanwk1
      @declanwk1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Einstein was not saying that QM was wrong, it gives such accurate answers it can't be wrong. He was saying that QM was incomplete. Bohr's dominant personality resulted in history recording that Einstein lost these early arguments in the interpretation of QM but many of the questions he raised are still unanswered and need to be resolved along with incompatibilities between QM and GR.

  • @stm3252
    @stm3252 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1994

    gauss hated the name imaginary, because it's confusing.He suggested to use lateral, because the complex number are represented on the lateral axis unlike all other numbers.

    • @ridovercascade4551
      @ridovercascade4551 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      He sounds right, but I am not to deep in Algebra to have an opinion. Maybe Imaginary has also some point of truth? The square root of -1 is impossible, so imagine being possible. B times that imaginary square root -1.
      But sure for me as a student, it would be made me so much clear if it wasn't called imaginary axis.

    • @Adam-rt2ir
      @Adam-rt2ir 4 ปีที่แล้ว +92

      It's impossible in the usual high school restriction to real numbers, but then people starting to study complex numbers complain, because why study something that is impossible/imaginary, it creates a bad approach, not very open minded.

    • @BlahBlahBlah13623
      @BlahBlahBlah13623 4 ปีที่แล้ว +249

      @@ridovercascade4551 'imaginary' numbers are as imaginary as negative numbers.

    • @roc6596
      @roc6596 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      i can be easily defined as the product between to points in a Cartesian plain which is (0;1).(0;1)=(0;-1) looking at an Argand Gauss plain it would look like i.i=-1, so we can basically multiply to real points and obtain minus one

    • @Jack01010
      @Jack01010 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@ridovercascade4551 Actually imaginary numbers are real, so it's better call them "lateral"

  • @ramenmondal8342
    @ramenmondal8342 3 ปีที่แล้ว +698

    I am not mathematics major. But whenever I watched videos regarding math it brings Peace in heart. I don't know why

    • @chiranjitray760
      @chiranjitray760 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      That makes you a mathematician

    • @antoniodiaz1998
      @antoniodiaz1998 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      That's because mathematics is a gift from god

    • @ergbudster3333
      @ergbudster3333 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Change your major. Unless you're physics or stats or social science with stats then you already in place. Continue thinking. Be the genius you were meant to be.

    • @zTheBigFishz
      @zTheBigFishz ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Music of the Spheres...

    • @suyash-dwivedi
      @suyash-dwivedi ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well you feel nostalgia, that's why.

  • @luismontalvohiroyasu5814
    @luismontalvohiroyasu5814 4 ปีที่แล้ว +706

    Barton Zwiebach is peruvian. He was born and studied school and electical engineering in Lima, Peru. As a peruvian I feel so proud of him.

    • @felipetoledodiaz1928
      @felipetoledodiaz1928 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

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      @mauricioaletz9694 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

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      @dibujodecroquis1684 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

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    • @luismontalvohiroyasu5814
      @luismontalvohiroyasu5814 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

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  • @vahidmirkhani
    @vahidmirkhani 4 ปีที่แล้ว +165

    I clicked because I thought he was a young Harrison Ford.
    Now I know how complex numbers are crucial part of wavefunctions in quantum.

    • @eklipsegirl
      @eklipsegirl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Who the fuck is that Harrison Ford? Why are people so obsessed with screen clowns and disregard quantum physics? I had to google to know who that guy is and was very disappointed to find out that it's yet another random film actor :(

    • @omniyambot9876
      @omniyambot9876 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@eklipsegirl yeah useless actor

    • @NightmareCourtPictures
      @NightmareCourtPictures 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@eklipsegirl Relax. Some of us that like physics, also like movies. In fact some of us like physics because we picked it up from watching movies!
      Twister was one of the first movies i saw as a kid...I largely believe that this movie alone is one of the things that shaped my entire life to who I am today, being both a filmmaker and a hobbyist physicist.

    • @melontusk7358
      @melontusk7358 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@eklipsegirl chill, mate, nobody's disregarding QM here. As a physics major who minored in other things, I love cinema. "Blade Runner" starring Harrison Ford was a bold film that dared to ask thought-provoking questions. "Interstellar" is another cerebral masterpiece that also deals with existential ideas as well as Theoretical physics, mainly General Relativity and higher dimensions. It truly sparked my interests again and inspired me to retake my Relativity course. Films have influenced many great physicists and engineers in real life, most notably Hyperspace in Superstring Theory and most recently the NASA's warp drive from "Star Trek" by Alcubierre.

    • @arnabmukherjee6192
      @arnabmukherjee6192 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@eklipsegirl calm the fuck down you pseudo intellect

  • @codeisawesome369
    @codeisawesome369 4 ปีที่แล้ว +472

    If I ever strike it rich, I would love to go to MIT to study physics at leisure with amazing teachers like this...

    • @VoidFame
      @VoidFame 4 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      Tbh you could just go for free and not get credit. Make friends not money :p

    • @codeisawesome369
      @codeisawesome369 4 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      @@VoidFame I'm not from the States, so unfortunately I'll be stopped at the border even though I'm trying to make Friends - because I don't have Money...

    • @VoidFame
      @VoidFame 4 ปีที่แล้ว +57

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    • @codeisawesome369
      @codeisawesome369 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

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      @0xDEAD_Inside 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

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  • @manuelignaciodelgadotalave7958
    @manuelignaciodelgadotalave7958 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    As a peruvian I feel proud of Barton, he is the best student of the National Engineering University in Lima Peru

  • @stephenanastasi748
    @stephenanastasi748 3 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    I had to learn this by distance education (1992) before the internet and always struggled. Barton makes it seem so easy. What a fabulous lecturer.

  • @hugoaraujo3
    @hugoaraujo3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    I am a teacher at the beginning of my career. That was a very inspiring explanation.

    • @andrealeto99
      @andrealeto99 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      you teach in university?

  • @puekai
    @puekai 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I like his writing, elegant

  • @user-tt2po5wg7n
    @user-tt2po5wg7n 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    What a great introductory video. The professor is comfortably understandable and thorough.. Fantastic, short introduction to complex numbers and their importance. Thanks for posting!.

  • @YakiOnigiriZoro
    @YakiOnigiriZoro 4 ปีที่แล้ว +538

    I thought that was Harrison Ford in disguise

    • @camunoz2
      @camunoz2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah right?

    • @gabor6259
      @gabor6259 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Harrison Ford + Benedict Cumberbatch

    • @pugboi8017
      @pugboi8017 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ROFL

    • @PeopleOfCasinos
      @PeopleOfCasinos 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Lol I had the same thought "wtf is Harrison Ford doing at MIT????"

    • @anderson.barcellos
      @anderson.barcellos 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dude! Tot's! 🤣

  • @timthompson468
    @timthompson468 4 ปีที่แล้ว +192

    Great video. I’m reading Ruel Churchill’s book on complex numbers and applications. I like his introduction. Instead of starting with the definition of i as the square root of negative one, i is introduced as part of a function that is necessary for certain equations (an ordered pair with certain, somewhat unusual mathematical properties). As, I read it, the fact that it turns out to be the square root of negative one is more a consequence of the definition , rather than the basic definition of i. It’s a subtle point, but that explanation sits better with me. Most modern books start with “i is the square root of negative one,” and that’s harder to get my head around than the more fundamental definition.

    • @fourier07able
      @fourier07able 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      'I' is a solution of the equation: x^2+1=0,so we could take this equation as the generator of imaginary numbers, i.e. the positive square root of '-1' is the imaginary unit i=(0,1), an ordered pair.

    • @akinyiomer4589
      @akinyiomer4589 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      This is actually so damn useful. I wish more instructors/professors/reference books approached the more abstract concepts from this perspective, as the majority of learners - particularly those who don't enjoy maths - will have a better chance at getting a complete and thorough understanding.

    • @xqamii3862
      @xqamii3862 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      most of the reasons it is introduced like this is because it was used by him previously in the lecture, when talking about Motion in 1D, i think. i do agree that it is a good way at looking at i, and complex numbers as a whole instead of just defining it by itself

    • @TheBeatle49
      @TheBeatle49 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed!

    • @MGHOoL5
      @MGHOoL5 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Exactly! That's how we should learn: why was a concept created and not 'here is a useful information to remember'. Things must be learned as they arose: out of necessity not possible utility. That's why I find it fascinating to read history which renders the present necessary or in hermeneutics (e.g. psychoanalysis) to grasp things from their fundamentals.

  • @Avicenna10
    @Avicenna10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Fantastic, short introduction to complex numbers and their importance. Thanks for posting!

  • @mohamedaminechekkouri8890
    @mohamedaminechekkouri8890 3 ปีที่แล้ว +161

    I’m actually an engineer but this is the first time I understand why we really need the complex numbers
    Thank you sir !

    • @nyahhbinghi
      @nyahhbinghi ปีที่แล้ว +31

      He didn't really get to a full explanation but it was a good start...a couple of identity equations doesn't explain at least for me

    • @leif1075
      @leif1075 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      EXSCTLY ZHE DIDNT EXPLAIN AT ALL WHY WHY DOES TJE WAVEFUNCTION have imagonary i in there to begin with...it has partly to do with not being bale to have time move backwards but he doesn't get into that at all..

    • @michaelgoldsmith9359
      @michaelgoldsmith9359 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      We don't need complex numbers it's just a simple way of taking into account things which change with regards to the period of sin function, like ac current, or for simplifying manipulations of vectors, which can be done without complex numbers but just in a nightmarishly complex way.

    • @kuldeepshukla1797
      @kuldeepshukla1797 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Started with x^2 + 1 =0. People were not used to with these kind of equations

    • @iamthegreatest3914
      @iamthegreatest3914 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Pure Mathematics don't search for Its applications. Pure Mathematicians do mathematics for fun & they get pleasure doing it . For example - Group Theory was Invented for Fun . But later other people found its uses in Computer Science & Quantum Physics

  • @afifakimih8823
    @afifakimih8823 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Very pure very clear very quality lecture series on QM and QFT...!❤💜❤

  • @LsPl.
    @LsPl. ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Honestly, this was probably the best introduction to quantum mechanics i'ver ever heared. Before you get to this whole superposition shit and stuff, first explaining the fundamental maths behind it, which by all means isnt that hard to not teach it to students. Great job.

  • @usptact
    @usptact 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very nice short note on complex numbers. A great professor tells you much more than just writing down those dry equations.

  • @espi3324
    @espi3324 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    This brings me back to the good old days of engineering school. Ironically I miss it. I felt so sharp in my mathematical skills.

  • @zzzyzzzyzzzyxxx
    @zzzyzzzyzzzyxxx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    It is a tragedy that the terms _real_ and _imaginary_ were adopted to classify these numbers since:
    a) The origin of the terms was actually meant to be used as an insult to certain mathematicians (more in a moment), and
    b) It confuses students learning math who, through no fault of their own, assume the lay, or common, definition of imaginary, that being something that is “fantasy”, “make-believe” or “made up”, leading to a student’s understandable conclusion: _how can something that “doesn’t exist” be in any way useful? _
    Good question! Origin and usefulness to follow, but first . . . . A side track in nomenclature . . . .
    In physics, there is a fundamental particle called a quark. There are 6 types of quark. These types are called flavors. The flavors of quarks are: up, down, bottom, top, strange and charmed.
    Why is one strange and the other charmed?
    Can you really taste them if they are called flavors?
    Nope - they are just names whose origins come from the imaginations of the physicists involved. (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quark#Etymology)
    *The origin of the terms Real Number and Imaginary Number*
    In the late 16th to early 17th century, when some mathematicians began developing the idea of the square root of negative numbers, other mathematicians were not too impressed. One prominent mathematician (and naysayer) of the day was Rene Descartes, who wrote, scathingly, "_These people play with their imaginary numbers while we mathematicians work with real numbers_." Herein lies the origin of both terms real and imaginary. Yes, before Descartes remark, the numbers we now call real numbers were not called real numbers by mathematicians, they were just called numbers!

    • @beoptimistic5853
      @beoptimistic5853 3 ปีที่แล้ว

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    • @stephenmorton8017
      @stephenmorton8017 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      interesting as heck.

  • @xyzct
    @xyzct 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The most enlightening way to teach complex numbers is to show the student that from N to Z to Q to R to C is merely four different quotient set extensions designed to remove the obstructions to the inverse operations: subtraction, division, logarithms, and root extraction, respectively.

    • @LarryD-ul3le
      @LarryD-ul3le ปีที่แล้ว

      You mean limits, not logarithms. And you should really continue on to quaternions.

    • @xyzct
      @xyzct ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LarryD-ul3le, no, I do not mean limits. I mean logarithms.
      And tell me, what obstruction to an algebraic inverse operation did the quotient set extension to form quaternions remove?

  • @sungbeomcho3606
    @sungbeomcho3606 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    How couldn't I thumbs on this lecture. Thanks professor

  • @nathanwalker1424
    @nathanwalker1424 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What a great introductory video. The professor is comfortably understandable and thorough.

  • @lolaalsaadi5708
    @lolaalsaadi5708 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Wow , such an amazing explanation, thanks lot

  • @keen2461
    @keen2461 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    When I studied this subject 25 years ago, back on the engineering classes, I remember I got to understand the topic quite well as it was necessary to solve circuits problems. But I never got to use that on the real world, and now it is a "complex" concept for me. Anyway, I hope someday I have the time to brush up on my advanced maths.

  • @Rocket89P13.
    @Rocket89P13. 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    El legendario Barton de la UNI

  • @naveenkrupadas6333
    @naveenkrupadas6333 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    MIT is MIT. It is always absolute. Thank you, MIT

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      @beoptimistic5853 3 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @cidorodrigues6087
    @cidorodrigues6087 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'm Sido Rodrigues Brazil I really like Quantum Physics Classes. Very important to know quantum physics. Teach everything the universe knows and you gain self-knowledge about everything. Great series of really useful lectures on quantum mechanics. I am also very grateful to MIT OpenCourseWare and Barton Zwiebach... etc...

  • @souvikdas5662
    @souvikdas5662 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really awesome explanation of complex nos and necessities in qm

  • @ezomaruzcategui80
    @ezomaruzcategui80 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the contribution. Make remember My times in Electrical Circuits with Samer Teacher.

  • @gauravxsharma
    @gauravxsharma 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I really love it we need this type of teacher in india because I always think why this is required to study and he had a very clear point of it with examples i love it never in my life i had this my clear view to any chapter a lots of love from india.

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      @beoptimistic5853 3 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @pandit-jee-bihar
    @pandit-jee-bihar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    He summed it all up with the statement that "complex number was needed to solve equations". That's it!

    • @guythat779
      @guythat779 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's a shit reason my nigga

    • @RangerCaptain11A
      @RangerCaptain11A 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      शास्त्र ध्वनि - Recorded Scriptures
      right, imaginary numbers are for completeness. that is a huge reason.

    • @ffggddss
      @ffggddss 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@RangerCaptain11A Yes, exactly, and that goes deeper than just needing them to solve equations. Complex numbers, "complete" the real numbers, in a strong sense.
      Even as needing them to solve equations opens the door to their existence.
      Fred

    • @pandit-jee-bihar
      @pandit-jee-bihar 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ffggddss
      'Complete' or 'Completeness' Is it something empirically defined or more of a feeling ?
      Does Integer complete whole number ?
      The reason one part of it is called is called imaginary is because well it's really imaginary and came into being as a notational convenience for mathematicians.
      It's a great imagination and opens door to solve equations which could not be solved before.

    • @ffggddss
      @ffggddss 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@pandit-jee-bihar Well, no, it wasn't meant in any formal sense.
      And yes, integers (ℤ) could equally well be said to "complete" counting (aka, natural) numbers (ℕ); as do rational numbers (ℚ) for integers; as do real numbers (ℝ) for rationals.
      And in each case, there's an in-built operation in the original system, that generates the extended one:
      • subtraction (inverse operation of addition) extends ℕ → ℤ
      • division (inverse operation of multiplication) extends ℤ → ℚ
      • limits of convergent sequences extends ℚ → ℝ
      • exponentiation extends ℝ → ℂ ( [-1]^½ , e.g.)
      The same could not be said for the quaternions, e.g.
      Perhaps the most compelling case for complex numbers is that, on the real line, not every differentiable function is analytic; in the complex plane, a function can't be differentiable without being analytic.
      Basically, in the complex plane, the constraints imposed by differentiability suddenly become much more stringent than those on the real line.
      Fred

  • @pietro5266
    @pietro5266 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Because of this lecture, I now understand the foundation of cos x + i sin x, and also how "i" came to exist and it's usefulness. Never saw these explanations before.

  • @srinivasg1295
    @srinivasg1295 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hats of to the instructor.. Amazing brain people have.. So complex

  • @stassavchuk
    @stassavchuk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Well, finally, on the 27th year of my life I realized the physical sense of the complex number :)

  • @rafanifischer3152
    @rafanifischer3152 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    These are cool studies. The professor has a nice clear-cut way of explaining without overemphasizing the simpler parts of the mathematics.

    • @thegirlwholovesmaths
      @thegirlwholovesmaths 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Totally agree. Clear and concise. He knows his stuff.

  • @rogerarrick1907
    @rogerarrick1907 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Oh that was very good. Brought a lot of stuff together nicely.

  • @spb1179
    @spb1179 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Going to have to watch these lectures, this prof is amazing

  • @jonahansen
    @jonahansen 5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Man, this professor is good!

  • @gokurocks9
    @gokurocks9 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I took a lesson on complex numbers before I took any trig, Calc. I didn't know you could use i to solve polynomials. That's incredible...

    • @drania76
      @drania76 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That’s the correct order of learning mathematics, congratulations. Once the idea that only positive number has a root square has been internalised it really is difficult to understand complex numbers and complex numbers are another level of mathematics and that is a real magic.

    • @stephenbeck7222
      @stephenbeck7222 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The primary purpose of complex numbers in algebra is to solve polynomials. How do you solve x^2+1=0 without i?

    • @no_more_spamplease5121
      @no_more_spamplease5121 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@stephenbeck7222 Yes. Complex numbers were invented to ensure the *closure* property for solving quadratic polynomial equations, ensuring any of them will necessarily have 2 complex roots (which can be real numbers or not).

  • @donwald3436
    @donwald3436 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    MIT has the best blackboard erasers, that big boy is a dream.

  • @FunPHYSICZ
    @FunPHYSICZ 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is excellent. One of my degrees is in Physics. I have a lot of math in my background. Complex Numbers were a necessary subject in order to do the math. The problem was that the concept of mapping complex numbers to a Cartesian Plane was just presented as a given, with absolutely no explanation why. "That's just the way it is." Dr. Zwiebach does a much better job of presenting the "why" than most professors. But the ultimate understanding for me occurred when I stopped and read the history of Rene' Descartes, one of the greatest mathematicians ever, and the reason we call this plane representation "Cartesian". If you get an understanding of Descartes's thought process and where the concept of Complex numbers comes from, you can think like a mathematician and not just depend on memorization.

    • @tchevrier
      @tchevrier 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      complex numbers are fundamental in electrical engineering and pretty much anything that deals with waves because that angle gives you a way to represent the phase of the wave.

  • @FernandoVinny
    @FernandoVinny 6 ปีที่แล้ว +322

    Obviously MIT students already know what are Complex Numbers

    • @MetallicDETHmaiden
      @MetallicDETHmaiden 5 ปีที่แล้ว +147

      you'd be surprised.

    • @mohittiwari8934
      @mohittiwari8934 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes

    • @aperture0
      @aperture0 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @Non sum dignus I had to 'cause it's freaking MIT!!!!

    • @brandonklein1
      @brandonklein1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      I agree, but perhaps it is the case that thinking of them in maybe a new more pure way as described by the professor gets some of the clutter and possible confusion about them out of mind.

    • @smishdws
      @smishdws 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      At my school, introductory mathematics is a prerequisite for quantum mechanics, but I think complex numbers was still very briefly discussed. Always good to quickly put everyone on the same page to follow discussion, and emphasize some important math concepts that will connect to physics concepts later on.

  • @richardhall9815
    @richardhall9815 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love how the chalk boards move up and down like window sashes.

    • @andrewlankford9634
      @andrewlankford9634 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You know it's MIT when every blackboard moves up and down like a window sash. That's reeel quality there.

  • @ilmdost8088
    @ilmdost8088 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this, such a nicely interpretate, We really need of such great man as an teacher.

    • @beoptimistic5853
      @beoptimistic5853 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/XQIbn27dOjE/w-d-xo.html 💐💐💐

  • @EeshwarBalageethavengateswaran
    @EeshwarBalageethavengateswaran 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4:24.. yes we can work and get it..
    McLaurin's series is one best way to use and prove that
    e^ix = cos x + i sin x..
    U can enjoy proving it bcoz it gives a detailed and satisfying proof.
    I've done many times.. it's interesting.. 😊😊😊

  • @roughsharkangular2034
    @roughsharkangular2034 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    I clicked because i thought it was harrison ford teaching mit class

  • @springdoctor
    @springdoctor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    There is no mystery about imaginary numbers or euhler’s identity. As the exponent of e , the imaginary number causes the radius to rotate counter clockwise around the x, y axis of the unit circle sweeping out out cosine and sine values just as the good professor says. Knowing this, imaginary numbers make perfect sense and e to the i 2pi = 1

  • @MikeDbean420
    @MikeDbean420 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great teacher. Thank you for video.

  • @sneakytweeky7625
    @sneakytweeky7625 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome teacher he really speaks a story which makes it attractive to listen to
    Wish my teachers spoke like this

    • @beoptimistic5853
      @beoptimistic5853 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/XQIbn27dOjE/w-d-xo.html 💐💐💐

  • @jaacobb123
    @jaacobb123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    When you're smart like these professors you can convey as much information speaking slowly as eminem rapping

    • @dozog
      @dozog 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I like your observation. It's about the information density of this prof.'s words.
      An involved receiver is also a requirement.
      Eminem videos have more views.

    • @jaacobb123
      @jaacobb123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dozog Exactly, and very true.

    • @dozog
      @dozog 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jaacobb123 If the old adagium that repetition is the mother of learning is true, then rappers may still be great teachers.

  • @joefagan9335
    @joefagan9335 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Well that was begging the question!!!

  • @NeoCynic1
    @NeoCynic1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Reading Spengler and his explication of the various "mathematics" of different Cultures. This helps

  • @shubhambaidya6126
    @shubhambaidya6126 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Such good quality education to millions around the globe... *Claps claps*

  • @Indic4Zone
    @Indic4Zone 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i should really stop binge watching science videos when i keep saying "alright just one more yt videos, and i will sleep after this"

    • @flowerwithamachinegun2692
      @flowerwithamachinegun2692 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      r/iamverysmart ?

    • @Indic4Zone
      @Indic4Zone 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@flowerwithamachinegun2692 nah dude, i'm just wondering why these lectures videos keep appears in my reccommendation, yeah sometimes i do watch 3b1b/blackpenredpen/welch labs/ocw but most of the time, i watches family guy/simpsons/futurama/one piece/the last airbender, i just like to do it, i'm just not very sure why this video keeps appearing in my reccommendation

  • @StudiesBR
    @StudiesBR 4 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    what kind of harrison ford is this?

    • @tropictom5996
      @tropictom5996 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      The one that is starring in the upcoming math adventure film “Raiders of the Lost Quark”

    • @novemberalpha6023
      @novemberalpha6023 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Indiana Jones at University

    • @GaganGrewalf095
      @GaganGrewalf095 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Imaginary

  • @Larry000
    @Larry000 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    G.O.A.T. explanation of complex numbers!

  • @vipuljani6027
    @vipuljani6027 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am first time meeting with Walter Levin in IIT Bombay and this time I see that professors is no difference between that!!! I love tham very much in this time I am in harverd in us I am very happy too

  • @emmanuelb.jankpolo4651
    @emmanuelb.jankpolo4651 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great teaching

  • @plfreeman111
    @plfreeman111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    A great professor hints at things beyond what are being taught. @2:30, "It's actually zz*, a very fundamental equation". And with year's of math under my belt now, I'm like, "Oh, man, that is a huge deal." That you can use the multiplication of a complex number with it's conjugate to get a real number that is a squared norm and generates a measure on the space of C. Mind still blown (even though I know this stuff well). But the professor just moves on and leaves it lying there. Quietly acknowledging the importance, but knowing that it's a distraction from what needs to be taught. Bravo.

  • @devilium
    @devilium 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Finally i know the use of complex no. ❤️❤️❤️ From India, Bihar.

    • @Cjnw
      @Cjnw 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Jai Bharat!!!!🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳

  • @tenaciousgirl5201
    @tenaciousgirl5201 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sir, you don't know how grateful i am to you ! May the One True God bless you.

  • @afifakimih8823
    @afifakimih8823 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Who says physics is boring...It's actually amazing...just see these lectures.!!absolutely Amazing.!"

  • @peterpetigrew2869
    @peterpetigrew2869 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    "GET TO THE CHOPPER !!!" 😂😂😂😂

  • @oprahwinfrey2967
    @oprahwinfrey2967 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Historically, there was sequential extension of number fields. The field of natural numbers was extended to the field of integers, then up to the field of rational numbers, then up to the field of real numbers and, at last, up to the field of complex numbers. The complex field thus has a key distinctive feature: It is algebraically closed. Restriction of physical quantities only by the field of real numbers seems logically unsatisfactory since mathematical operations often deduce them from the field of original definition.

  • @dearheart2
    @dearheart2 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Brings back memories.

  • @AndreaCalaon73
    @AndreaCalaon73 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I would love to eventually hear about Geometric Algebra ...

    • @RangerCaptain11A
      @RangerCaptain11A 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      my professor for that class was romanian. she talked slow like this professor, so it was easy to follow. it was a good class to expand your mind.

    • @AndreaCalaon73
      @AndreaCalaon73 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Muhammad Haider No, I mean "Geometric Algebra", as proposed and first studied by David Hestenes

  • @Tomahawk1999
    @Tomahawk1999 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    if i had teachers like these, maybe i would not have hated math so much and actually done well in my life.

    • @AnimeCritical
      @AnimeCritical 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Even now it's not too late.

    • @MaxPower2719
      @MaxPower2719 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Many people who had bad or mediocre teachers turned out really well. Your future lies in your own hands, not in the hands of some teacher. All the tools are available; you choose to pick them up or walk away.
      If the "1999" part in your name reflects you year or birth, you are a measly 20 years old. Your life has hardly begun. You have all the opportunities ahead of you to "do well" in your life.
      Or, you know, you could just sulk on in the internet and blame others for not following your hopes and dreams.

    • @stuartyeo5354
      @stuartyeo5354 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very encouraging :)

    • @thicclumber5790
      @thicclumber5790 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tomahawk1999 ur a failure because of urself and nobody else, but sure blame ur teacher if it makes u feel better

    • @felipeteixeira7169
      @felipeteixeira7169 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      thicc lumber who the fuck are you to judge someone as a failure, though? There are n factors that may cause one to get unmotivated and bad teachers is surely one of them.

  • @dkarthiganesh
    @dkarthiganesh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Professor

  • @ema7956
    @ema7956 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    my favourite staff.i love maths

  • @williamsmith4220
    @williamsmith4220 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    He just derived de moivre's theorem!!! Holy cow I never noticed that.

    • @puru1818
      @puru1818 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No, he didn't...

    • @SuperSaltyFries
      @SuperSaltyFries 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      He derived Euler's formula.

    • @p27kushagra
      @p27kushagra 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@SuperSaltyFries He derived nothing. What's wrong with u people..?

  • @NLGeebee
    @NLGeebee 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Except that i ≠ √-1.
    By definition i² = -1, so if anything i = ±√-1.

    • @adrien8572
      @adrien8572 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No by definition i=(0,1)

    • @NLGeebee
      @NLGeebee 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Adrien If you mean that the coordinates of z = 0 + i in a complex plane are (0,1) then you are right, but a graphical representation is not equal to the definition.

    • @adrien8572
      @adrien8572 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NLGeebee The way complex numbers are built is by defining two operations on the set R^2 : one addition and one multiplication. i is a notation for the couple (0,1) because it is easier two manipulate this notation. It really is just that. You can represent all complex numbers in R^2 because they are just R^2 with two operations !

    • @NLGeebee
      @NLGeebee 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Adrien I believe I was tought that if the complex number z = i, or z = 0 +1i, then that number z is represented in R² as the point (0,1).

    • @adrien8572
      @adrien8572 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NLGeebee That is indeed true !

  • @AkashGupta-yq8lx
    @AkashGupta-yq8lx 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love complex no.. as well as complex geometry❤️❤️

  • @fethilakhdari1078
    @fethilakhdari1078 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video in every respect, please keep them comming.

  • @JeffaHensley
    @JeffaHensley 4 ปีที่แล้ว +149

    Decent lecture, but it begs the question of the title of the video. He just states that they’re necessary, meanders around a few examples of how we’d be lost without imaginary numbers, but other than this necessity for their existence, doesn’t explain them.

    • @kingk.crimson6633
      @kingk.crimson6633 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      "Other than the necessity for their existence" that is the title of the video

    • @RangerCaptain11A
      @RangerCaptain11A 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      probably a 1.5 hour class, so most of the content is missing.

    • @ramenbroth
      @ramenbroth 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You're asking for something that's not within the context of the title of the video...

    • @madScientist404
      @madScientist404 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      the answer to your question lies in Geometric Algebra. The result of the work of Grassmann, Clifford, Hamilton and sort of rediscovered by Hestenes. It gives you a geometric interpretation for the equation i^2= -1. It can be associated with some plane in physical space.

    • @flumpyhumpy
      @flumpyhumpy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @4:38 "Complex numbers, you used them in electromagnetism, you sometimes used them in classical mechanics, but you always used them in an _auxiliary_ way. It was not directly relevant because the electric field is real, the position is real, the velocity is real, everything is real. And the _equations_ are real.
      On the other hand, in quantum mechanics the equation *already has an i* . So in quantum mechanics, psi is a complex number. _Necessary_ . *It has to be* ."
      This lecture is from a course on quantum mechanics. The title of the video is apposite, concise, and absolutely correct.

  • @jadghalayini1446
    @jadghalayini1446 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What if we had two numbers z1 and z2 such that z1 != z2 but |z1|^2 = |z2|^2 (trivial example: z1 = 1, z2 = i). If what we're interested in is the norm squared, when it comes to measuring in quantum mechanics, then what is the difference (measurable, perhaps) between z1 and z2? Another property?

    • @James__123
      @James__123 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I remember this being answered in my lecturers last year, but I can't remember the answer :D I'm sure he's going to mention it later in the course

    • @IgorAherne
      @IgorAherne 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I believe it's the "cosine similarity"

    • @zoltankurti
      @zoltankurti 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good question. The answer is, you can't measure the phase alone. But if it interacts with another system, the phase difference between the two systems can be measured, roughly speaking. The interference pattern of two waves for example will depend on the phase difference of the two waves. And it's similar for all other systems, you will get an interference term in the prediction which depends on the phade difference and can be measured.

    • @memelsify
      @memelsify 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Look up Aharnov-Bohm effect.

    • @zoltankurti
      @zoltankurti 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@memelsify you still need interference to measure this effect, this is not usable to measure the phase of the wave function. You always need interference with another system for that.

  • @memojedi
    @memojedi 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Perfect explanation! Just perfect!

    • @beoptimistic5853
      @beoptimistic5853 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/XQIbn27dOjE/w-d-xo.html 💐💐💐

  • @remixex369
    @remixex369 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have never taken QM. However, thanks to QM we have a very VERY robust wave propagation theory. One of the most reliable ways to compute synthetic seismograms is through Normal Mode Summation. It saves you a lot of headaches to do this!

  • @eceakyol5857
    @eceakyol5857 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    in turkiye we learn the complex numbers in highschool

    • @jelteverhoeff
      @jelteverhoeff หลายเดือนก่อน

      In NL we learn nothing in highschool

    • @Shrodinguer4321
      @Shrodinguer4321 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Come and take a look at the moroccann program 😂

    • @ansupriyadarshi1456
      @ansupriyadarshi1456 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      So do we in India. It’s a fascinating subject when you look back at it. At the time I thought why study when it’s all imaginary 😂

    • @t_aikutsu
      @t_aikutsu 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      In the UK usually people would start to learn it in university, but some people choose to study "further maths", which sees them learning about complex numbers from 16

  • @pre-universitygeometricalg5862
    @pre-universitygeometricalg5862 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    In Geometric Algebra (which is a development of Clifford Algebra), the unit imaginary is given a geometric interpretation that is extremely useful in formulating and solving mathematical problems that arise in a broad range of fields, including quantum mechanics. Our channel is mainly for lower-level users of GA, but some of the members of our associated LinkedIn group are GA experts, and will be happy to direct interested viewers to sources of additional information.

  • @kandasamym6600
    @kandasamym6600 ปีที่แล้ว

    Knowledge should for knowledge only but not exami orientation The teacher is teaching very nicely

  • @jadenmax679
    @jadenmax679 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    great teaching.

  • @kylewhitney2890
    @kylewhitney2890 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    While the smartest of the smart get into schools like MIT, Harvard, etc., I’d love to go there I would sit in on lectures like this for fun.

    • @TheMounten1
      @TheMounten1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you work hard enough you can get into a good uni in the us with comparable education although you may have a large debt to loans

    • @CIOWhitepapers
      @CIOWhitepapers 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's what you're doing right now. Many of the big universities have full classes on youtube now and it's quite possible that you'll get more from those courses than the freshmen who pay top dollar to attend in person.

  • @ffggddss
    @ffggddss 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    This is really well presented! This guy ought to be teaching at MIT or the like.
    Oh, wait, ...
    Fred

  • @beenishmuazzam
    @beenishmuazzam 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks

  • @rs324
    @rs324 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    awesome professor!

  • @oldguy1958hk
    @oldguy1958hk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Good refreshing course... I make living on I... I call it "j" part of a number ...for me I stands for current, I m an electrical engineer.

    • @davjdprjce
      @davjdprjce 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      the imaginary unit is denoted *j* in electrical engineering since *i* denotes current

  • @2002tantry
    @2002tantry 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Does anyone else feels like you understand these things way down in your career and it just went above your head when you were actually learning in college 😂?

    • @SuperSaltyFries
      @SuperSaltyFries 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's no surprise. We hardly have any time in university to actually read the damn textbook because each professor assigns so many homework assignments each week plus the 3-4 lab reports to complete.

  • @faustdownunder
    @faustdownunder 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The "norm" is otherwise also denoted as the magnitude of the complex number vector. May I respectfully add that Z = cos(theta) + i * sin(theta) only if magnitude(Z) = 1. Complex number are used and have been used for a very long time in AC circuit theory. We can indeed very well measure complex numbers by simply measuring amplitude and phase of voltages, currents, field vectors.

    • @98danielray
      @98danielray 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      he said the unit circle

  • @erniewinn2415
    @erniewinn2415 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    He is a great lecturer.

  • @shawncox9277
    @shawncox9277 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    I hit the imaginary like button

    • @weeraywee1445
      @weeraywee1445 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I hit the imaginary like button for this comment

  • @stevenvanhulle7242
    @stevenvanhulle7242 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    "Once you invent i you don't need more numbers."
    Quaternion: "Am I a joke to you?"

    • @maxfrankenberg8260
      @maxfrankenberg8260 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Steven Van Hulle ... to solve any polynomial equation

  • @rolllarry
    @rolllarry 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That was easy :-) Well done, thank you so much for clearing up that haze I had from college. It wasn't MIT, maybe that was it :-)

  • @aggzlez
    @aggzlez ปีที่แล้ว

    so clear!

  • @pranjalverma3501
    @pranjalverma3501 5 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Title was quite misleading.

    • @neux64
      @neux64 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I believe the title refers to 4:38 where he begins to describe the ideology and use of complex numbers within quantum mechanics.

    • @vsevolodi.5373
      @vsevolodi.5373 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Neux he literally says “because equation”. This is not an explanation.

    • @neux64
      @neux64 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@vsevolodi.5373 So what are you implying? That equations do not help explain anything? That equations are irrelevant in explaining things? If this were the case, then the ideas of quantum mechanics, complex numbers and complex analyses would not exist.

    • @vsevolodi.5373
      @vsevolodi.5373 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Neux it does not explain why there cannot exist a single real-valued equation, which is essentially the question - why do we need a complex equation (or a system of two real equations) to describe the wave function. For example in the case of dirac equation, a similar question “why do we need two-component wave function to describe a particle with spin 1/2” is that we have have to satisfy special relations for coefficients of the equation which cannot be satisfied coefficients are real or even complex numbers, but can be satisfied for matrices, wherefore the wave function has to be a vector.

  • @HL-iw1du
    @HL-iw1du 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Imagine ACTUALLY being a complex number in 2019

  • @ummnine6938
    @ummnine6938 ปีที่แล้ว

    very good teacher!! loved watching this ... and gave a good laugh when he said "many people hate it" lol

  • @jovo6230
    @jovo6230 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, that just blew my mind.

    • @beoptimistic5853
      @beoptimistic5853 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/XQIbn27dOjE/w-d-xo.html 💐💐💐

  • @patrickryckman3867
    @patrickryckman3867 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow Harrison Ford can do anything.