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I will send it again because looks like you didn’t hit a good spot for zebra marble 38.65056, -113.53643 it was a mine in that area that closed in 2018. Great big pieces to slab
@@CurrentlyRockhoundingoh I forgot to tell you that you will drive by an active mine of zebra stone or it was active last year when I drove by they have huge boulders of zebra marble you can see
The way the book is organized is one of the main reasons I passed on this book. I wish he had it organized by location rather than material. I didn’t realize it had QR codes either. This could easily make this book obsolete in a few years if Google changes anything. Thank you for your honest review of the book, I am glad you don’t ever try to “sell” an item, you give the good and the bad. Rick is a great guy and I have been on some of his rockhounding trips which have always been a lot of fun and I highly recommend.
Just a note about dolomitic limestone. I managed a liquid feed plant for cattle, for 30 years (I’m retired), and we used dolomite (crushed to a powder) in our feed. It was screened through a 300 mesh screen. The biggest challenge is suspension as it is still rock, even in powder form. Our facility was one of the first to suspend it successfully. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this book. I am very new to this hobby and really enjoy your channel.
It's cool you are advocating that books are still relevant. The future of technology is unclear so written text is still a crucial resource to emit information. Thanks for all of your candid content!
I have learned more from old books than any other method and I know it's impractical for every modern rockhound to do this, so I do my best to pass along the useful information as much as I can.
I love the videos you guys put together on exploring different areas of Utah. You give great advice and you're knowledge of the locations are awesome! Keep it up!! 😊😊😊😊
We left Oregon and spent the entire month of September, rockhounding southeast Utah. We passed on this book, for a number of reasons. We rolled the dice on the Falcon Guides “Rockhounding Utah”. I was apprehensive, because the Falcon Guides (different author) Rockhounding Oregon is garbage. We found that the Utah edition’s written directions were sometimes confusing. We visited 7 different areas and found the GPS coordinates to be fairly accurate. Combined with OnX Off-road, we traveled around like we had been there before, not to mention came home with 250 lbs of some of the most beautiful and bountiful agates, p-wood and crystals. Definitely see why you two moved to Utah, a rockhounder’s paradise ❤
I just scored a huge box of rock and mineral books and magazines from the 50’s and 60’s. They are priceless because they have so many great places to go collecting that have been forgotten and or just cleaned out. I haven’t had time to really look through them thoroughly. I’m excited about them though
Those resources are gold to have. The only downside to them is that they are limited and it's impractical for everyone coming into the hobby to have them.
I bought the book as we were going to be traveling through Utah last month, and I thought it would make it easier to find spots where we could stop and hunt for rocks. I love the book, but I completely agree with your assessment of the QR codes and the organization of the book. It wasn’t easy to figure out where to stop as we were driving through. I eventually managed to get enough areas mapped so we had plenty of places to hunt. The book is great, but a few changes would make it much more useful.
Jared, you and Sara make a great team! And have a lot of knowledge and insight on how to write a comprehensive book. Maybe the Author will see this video and write the second addition to earn an A rating 😊
love your guys review. I personally think grouping by counties would be a good idea. Also I am not a fan of finished artsy products for the I D pic. Show me what I'm looking for, not a finished retail product. Good job both of you. Chris & Lisa
Agreed, I don't think it's very helpful to show a photo of something from a location that is the best found and now at a museum, I mean that's neat but not helpful to someone going out to an area for the first or second time.
Thanks for yet ANOTHER very informative video! Thanks for sharing, you two! Would love to host ya'll for some rockhounding in Southern Colorado some time!
So this weekend on the 16th and 17th in Layton is a rock show being put on by the Crystal Barista, Rick will have a booth there and you can do some follow up questions you might have on his book, as I will be there too as a vendor, please come by and see.
I have this book and totally agree with your critiques. It is really hard to look up information and the QR Codes work for now, but are a pain and is not future proof.
The book has great information, but the QR codes also worried me. I just started scanning them, going to Google maps, and then writing the gps coordinates back in the book with the QR code. I also wrote the area of the state it is in (city, county, or other geographic identifier).
@ Not yet I have just been organizing and picking some trips. I have been on a rock hunting trip with Rick before. He knows some really good spots. I have been to some of these spots before I had the book.
I didn’t answer this question entirely right. I have been to many of these locations before the book was around. So I am using the book to plan trips to new locations. My main rockhounding pal died a few years ago and that has really slowed me down.
Have you had issues with Gaia losing your layer settings when bouncing between devices, or just at random on the same device even? It's been far too common for me, I'll program up a bunch of targets I want to hit, switching between Google Earth and the Gaia webpage on PC, then get out to that area sometime later, access Gaia app on phone or tablet, and all of the layer settings are gone - the bookmarks are all there, but the only layer is the standard Gaia topo, and I have to go through and reselect/reorder all the layers. -- Then get back home, and switch back to the computer, and now IT has lost its layers. Is this a "me" problem, or is this something that others have struggled with too?
We definitely do not like or use lat/long GPS, and much prefer UTM co-ordinates, which is much more accurate. Could you please tell us why you prefer the decimal system?
In this context, splitting hairs about what is technically more accurate is pointless, since decimal is very accurate and more than adequate for directing something to a quarry or rock collecting site. When it comes to the conveyance of information, decimal win. It's so easy to type into a computer, phone, table, handheld gps, in car gps...etc. The decimal system works with ease on all mapping software and it makes for an easy cut and paste. Can you explain why you prefer UTM and the exact difference in the accuracy between UTM and decimal?
Pretty much, on this trip we noticed that we were near a few things that were in the book but had no cellphone coverage to find the exact location and to get to cellphone coverage would have meant driving 40 miles out of the way, so we just didn't do that but it would have been nice if we could have. Here in Utah, I'm finding out that there are huge areas with no Verizon phone coverage at least.
@@CurrentlyRockhounding huge areas of no coverage, especially the areas where we go rockhounding! Can be one of the best parts of the experience, unless your guide book is full of QR codes! Have fun out there!
Just as a point of information, scammers have learned how to use QR codes to hack phones and get access to accounts. So, this may make people cautious of scanning a QR code soon.
8 minutes in and you have talked me out of buying the book. I am glad I did not buy it. Look at how many rockhounds do not have smartphones. (the older ones)
I bet money that this is a book that was constructed by an AI program because in reality if you was to spend this much time on a book with that much content in it and you did it by human you would make sure you didn't make these mistakes
I have reviewed A.I. written books here on this channel, I have read A.I. articles...etc. I'm very confident that it is not written by A.I. Authors have blinds spot about their creations all the time and mistakes get made.
I understand exactly what you are saying about the QR codes and you have a point about organization along with other thoughts on improvement. In my humble opinion, nothing is perfect for everyone. Everything can be made better. Was this book intended for the casual weekend rockhound complete with step by step instructions to the destination or the adventurous types who like to explore? All of the information has been provided in one concise location for a reasonable price in this economy that we live in today. Whatever it costs, it saved me and you the legwork necessary to "dig" for this information in the Internet quarry of mis and disinformation. It is authored by someone who gives a damn. I spend hours between my Garmin Tread, Google Maps and the TH-cam Rock Heads trying to figure out exactly where they are filming and then planning a route before I go. By the time I am ready, I am pretty familiar with the area. Seriously, what fun would it be if someone figured the whole thing out for you along with color pictures?? Lol What would that cost? Planning to me is half the fun. Where is the mystery if it's all laid out for you? It is up to the reader to add this source of knowledge to their existing data and extract what they need. You two seem to know geology, what you believe should also be included in a book like this and you walk the walk through your vids. Everything can be made better. Make a better book and I will buy it. Edited... I just read the other comments and I totally agree with the person who said you had me talked out of buying this book within the first few minutes.
Sure, nothing is perfect for everyone, then who exactly is this perfect for? As for your question, "Was this book intended for the casual weekend rockhound complete with step by step instructions to the destination or the adventurous types who like to explore?" You would need to ask the author that because to me it's very unclear. I don't think your characterization of it as "Seriously, what fun would it be if someone figured the whole thing out for you along with color pictures?" is very accurate. There is so much bad, misleading and dated information in this book. If planning is half the fun to you, then how do you feel when doing planning around something online to find out that a chunk of information you were planning around is blatantly wrong? You said "Where is the mystery if it's all laid out for you?" this is a guidebook, which means a book that guides you to a location, it's not a mystery, choose your own adventure Hardy Boys book. I already made a better book which is my free to use website which you're more than welcome to donate to.
@@CurrentlyRockhounding Sure, nothing is perfect for everyone, then who exactly is this perfect for? Not you I would venture to guess. As for your question, "Was this book intended for the casual weekend rockhound complete with step by step instructions to the destination or the adventurous types who like to explore?" You would need to ask the author that because to me it's very unclear. Since we don't know the answer to the question and the title of the book gives us only a hint as to the content then it would seem to me that the reader of the book draws their own conclusion from whatever their expectations were in buying it. I don't think your characterization of it as "Seriously, what fun would it be if someone figured the whole thing out for you along with color pictures?" is very accurate. There is so much bad, misleading and dated information in this book. I think my words were quite accurate when not taken out of context. Some people expect everything to be handed to them. It's not your fault. It's the generation. If planning is half the fun to you, then how do you feel when doing planning around something online to find out that a chunk of information you were planning around is blatantly wrong? If you base your planning on one source and end up in the wrong state then you haven't done enough research and planning. Between written material, online maps and information there is more than enough to cross reference everything and come up with a viable destination plan. You said "Where is the mystery if it's all laid out for you?" this is a guidebook, which means a book that guides you to a location, it's not a mystery, choose your own adventure Hardy Boys book. The book, not alone, but along with other sources is there to guide you to a location that you have planned on. Within the earth, along the path to and beyond the location that you have been guided to, depending upon your level of curiosity, adventure and enthusiasm you might just find something that you didn't expect to find. Therein lies the mystery. Enjoy the ride, not the destination. I already made a better book which is my free to use website which you're more than welcome to donate to. It's a great work in progress. I will explore more chapters for sure. When you have finished your book and it is perfect for me then I will consider donating.
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I will send it again because looks like you didn’t hit a good spot for zebra marble 38.65056, -113.53643 it was a mine in that area that closed in 2018. Great big pieces to slab
That one is pinned on my map to go check out in the future!
@@CurrentlyRockhoundingoh I forgot to tell you that you will drive by an active mine of zebra stone or it was active last year when I drove by they have huge boulders of zebra marble you can see
This sounds like a book Kent could enjoy!
The way the book is organized is one of the main reasons I passed on this book. I wish he had it organized by location rather than material. I didn’t realize it had QR codes either. This could easily make this book obsolete in a few years if Google changes anything. Thank you for your honest review of the book, I am glad you don’t ever try to “sell” an item, you give the good and the bad. Rick is a great guy and I have been on some of his rockhounding trips which have always been a lot of fun and I highly recommend.
All I want to sell to people is the idea that rockhounding is a worth it hobby that should be kept alive.
Just a note about dolomitic limestone. I managed a liquid feed plant for cattle, for 30 years (I’m retired), and we used dolomite (crushed to a powder) in our feed. It was screened through a 300 mesh screen. The biggest challenge is suspension as it is still rock, even in powder form. Our facility was one of the first to suspend it successfully. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this book. I am very new to this hobby and really enjoy your channel.
It's cool you are advocating that books are still relevant. The future of technology is unclear so written text is still a crucial resource to emit information. Thanks for all of your candid content!
I have learned more from old books than any other method and I know it's impractical for every modern rockhound to do this, so I do my best to pass along the useful information as much as I can.
I love the consistent thinking-outside-the-box analysis on this channel. Thank you! ROCK ON!! 😁👍🏻🪨⛏️
Thank you!
I love the videos you guys put together on exploring different areas of Utah. You give great advice and you're knowledge of the locations are awesome! Keep it up!! 😊😊😊😊
Thank you!
We left Oregon and spent the entire month of September, rockhounding southeast Utah. We passed on this book, for a number of reasons. We rolled the dice on the Falcon Guides “Rockhounding Utah”. I was apprehensive, because the Falcon Guides (different author) Rockhounding Oregon is garbage. We found that the Utah edition’s written directions were sometimes confusing. We visited 7 different areas and found the GPS coordinates to be fairly accurate. Combined with OnX Off-road, we traveled around like we had been there before, not to mention came home with 250 lbs of some of the most beautiful and bountiful agates, p-wood and crystals. Definitely see why you two moved to Utah, a rockhounder’s paradise ❤
Great review and info. I just ordered the book. Thanks!
I'm glad you found it helpful.
I just scored a huge box of rock and mineral books and magazines from the 50’s and 60’s. They are priceless because they have so many great places to go collecting that have been forgotten and or just cleaned out. I haven’t had time to really look through them thoroughly. I’m excited about them though
Those resources are gold to have. The only downside to them is that they are limited and it's impractical for everyone coming into the hobby to have them.
User friend with lots of good info is best! Thanks Sara and Josh.
I bought the book as we were going to be traveling through Utah last month, and I thought it would make it easier to find spots where we could stop and hunt for rocks. I love the book, but I completely agree with your assessment of the QR codes and the organization of the book. It wasn’t easy to figure out where to stop as we were driving through. I eventually managed to get enough areas mapped so we had plenty of places to hunt. The book is great, but a few changes would make it much more useful.
Jared, you and Sara make a great team! And have a lot of knowledge and insight on how to write a comprehensive book. Maybe the Author will see this video and write the second addition to earn an A rating 😊
Thank you.
love your guys review. I personally think grouping by counties would be a good idea. Also I am not a fan of finished artsy products for the I D pic. Show me what I'm looking for, not a finished retail product. Good job both of you. Chris & Lisa
Agreed, I don't think it's very helpful to show a photo of something from a location that is the best found and now at a museum, I mean that's neat but not helpful to someone going out to an area for the first or second time.
Thanks for yet ANOTHER very informative video! Thanks for sharing, you two! Would love to host ya'll for some rockhounding in Southern Colorado some time!
We will get there someday! :)
So this weekend on the 16th and 17th in Layton is a rock show being put on by the Crystal Barista, Rick will have a booth there and you can do some follow up questions you might have on his book, as I will be there too as a vendor, please come by and see.
I hope you have a good show but I doubt I will be going to that one. It's an 8-hour round trip drive for us.
I have this book and totally agree with your critiques. It is really hard to look up information and the QR Codes work for now, but are a pain and is not future proof.
I like the book and if I had to do it over I would still buy it but it's a lot of work to process it now.
The book has great information, but the QR codes also worried me. I just started scanning them, going to Google maps, and then writing the gps coordinates back in the book with the QR code. I also wrote the area of the state it is in (city, county, or other geographic identifier).
We are also now writing them in the book as well to future-proof our copy.
You should go looking for some fossils in the virgin river. I found some cool star fish fossils
Where on the Virgin River did you fund fossils?
I love my copy.
Have you used it to find many locations?
@ Not yet I have just been organizing and picking some trips. I have been on a rock hunting trip with Rick before. He knows some really good spots. I have been to some of these spots before I had the book.
I didn’t answer this question entirely right. I have been to many of these locations before the book was around. So I am using the book to plan trips to new locations. My main rockhounding pal died a few years ago and that has really slowed me down.
Have you had issues with Gaia losing your layer settings when bouncing between devices, or just at random on the same device even? It's been far too common for me, I'll program up a bunch of targets I want to hit, switching between Google Earth and the Gaia webpage on PC, then get out to that area sometime later, access Gaia app on phone or tablet, and all of the layer settings are gone - the bookmarks are all there, but the only layer is the standard Gaia topo, and I have to go through and reselect/reorder all the layers. -- Then get back home, and switch back to the computer, and now IT has lost its layers. Is this a "me" problem, or is this something that others have struggled with too?
I have not had that experience.
@@CurrentlyRockhounding That's reassuring. It suggests there's hope for a fix then.
Now I'm having the very issue you mentioned here and its the worst.
@@CurrentlyRockhounding Crap, I hope I didn't jinx ya! 😲
@@Charley_Buehner I'm thankful for all my backup files.
We definitely do not like or use lat/long GPS, and much prefer UTM co-ordinates, which is much more accurate. Could you please tell us why you prefer the decimal system?
In this context, splitting hairs about what is technically more accurate is pointless, since decimal is very accurate and more than adequate for directing something to a quarry or rock collecting site.
When it comes to the conveyance of information, decimal win. It's so easy to type into a computer, phone, table, handheld gps, in car gps...etc. The decimal system works with ease on all mapping software and it makes for an easy cut and paste.
Can you explain why you prefer UTM and the exact difference in the accuracy between UTM and decimal?
So basically the book is not a lot of use out in the field if you have no cell service.
Pretty much, on this trip we noticed that we were near a few things that were in the book but had no cellphone coverage to find the exact location and to get to cellphone coverage would have meant driving 40 miles out of the way, so we just didn't do that but it would have been nice if we could have.
Here in Utah, I'm finding out that there are huge areas with no Verizon phone coverage at least.
@@CurrentlyRockhounding huge areas of no coverage, especially the areas where we go rockhounding! Can be one of the best parts of the experience, unless your guide book is full of QR codes! Have fun out there!
@@jazmineduncan2845 100% agree.
Just as a point of information, scammers have learned how to use QR codes to hack phones and get access to accounts. So, this may make people cautious of scanning a QR code soon.
How does that apply here to QR codes printed in a book?
@@CurrentlyRockhounding You would have to think that the publisher of the book is not implementing a hack. Most likely perfectly safe.
8 minutes in and you have talked me out of buying the book. I am glad I did not buy it. Look at how many rockhounds do not have smartphones. (the older ones)
I bet money that this is a book that was constructed by an AI program because in reality if you was to spend this much time on a book with that much content in it and you did it by human you would make sure you didn't make these mistakes
I have reviewed A.I. written books here on this channel, I have read A.I. articles...etc. I'm very confident that it is not written by A.I.
Authors have blinds spot about their creations all the time and mistakes get made.
I can see it now, Jared will write a rockhounding book or books!! 😁👍🏻🪨⛏️
I understand exactly what you are saying about the QR codes and you have a point about organization along with other thoughts on improvement. In my humble opinion, nothing is perfect for everyone. Everything can be made better. Was this book intended for the casual weekend rockhound complete with step by step instructions to the destination or the adventurous types who like to explore? All of the information has been provided in one concise location for a reasonable price in this economy that we live in today. Whatever it costs, it saved me and you the legwork necessary to "dig" for this information in the Internet quarry of mis and disinformation. It is authored by someone who gives a damn. I spend hours between my Garmin Tread, Google Maps and the TH-cam Rock Heads trying to figure out exactly where they are filming and then planning a route before I go. By the time I am ready, I am pretty familiar with the area. Seriously, what fun would it be if someone figured the whole thing out for you along with color pictures?? Lol What would that cost? Planning to me is half the fun. Where is the mystery if it's all laid out for you? It is up to the reader to add this source of knowledge to their existing data and extract what they need. You two seem to know geology, what you believe should also be included in a book like this and you walk the walk through your vids. Everything can be made better. Make a better book and I will buy it.
Edited... I just read the other comments and I totally agree with the person who said you had me talked out of buying this book within the first few minutes.
Sure, nothing is perfect for everyone, then who exactly is this perfect for?
As for your question, "Was this book intended for the casual weekend rockhound complete with step by step instructions to the destination or the adventurous types who like to explore?" You would need to ask the author that because to me it's very unclear.
I don't think your characterization of it as "Seriously, what fun would it be if someone figured the whole thing out for you along with color pictures?" is very accurate. There is so much bad, misleading and dated information in this book. If planning is half the fun to you, then how do you feel when doing planning around something online to find out that a chunk of information you were planning around is blatantly wrong?
You said "Where is the mystery if it's all laid out for you?" this is a guidebook, which means a book that guides you to a location, it's not a mystery, choose your own adventure Hardy Boys book.
I already made a better book which is my free to use website which you're more than welcome to donate to.
@@CurrentlyRockhounding Sure, nothing is perfect for everyone, then who exactly is this perfect for?
Not you I would venture to guess.
As for your question, "Was this book intended for the casual weekend rockhound complete with step by step instructions to the destination or the adventurous types who like to explore?" You would need to ask the author that because to me it's very unclear.
Since we don't know the answer to the question and the title of the book gives us only a hint as to the content then it would seem to me that the reader of the book draws their own conclusion from whatever their expectations were in buying it.
I don't think your characterization of it as "Seriously, what fun would it be if someone figured the whole thing out for you along with color pictures?" is very accurate. There is so much bad, misleading and dated information in this book.
I think my words were quite accurate when not taken out of context. Some people expect everything to be handed to them. It's not your fault. It's the generation.
If planning is half the fun to you, then how do you feel when doing planning around something online to find out that a chunk of information you were planning around is blatantly wrong?
If you base your planning on one source and end up in the wrong state then you haven't done enough research and planning. Between written material, online maps and information there is more than enough to cross reference everything and come up with a viable destination plan.
You said "Where is the mystery if it's all laid out for you?" this is a guidebook, which means a book that guides you to a location, it's not a mystery, choose your own adventure Hardy Boys book.
The book, not alone, but along with other sources is there to guide you to a location that you have planned on. Within the earth, along the path to and beyond the location that you have been guided to, depending upon your level of curiosity, adventure and enthusiasm you might just find something that you didn't expect to find. Therein lies the mystery. Enjoy the ride, not the destination.
I already made a better book which is my free to use website which you're more than welcome to donate to.
It's a great work in progress. I will explore more chapters for sure. When you have finished your book and it is perfect for me then I will consider donating.