Ten Records To Start Your Jazz Collection (Episode 225)

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  • @j0pj0p
    @j0pj0p 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is an exceptionally thoughtful and informative video. Thanks so much for sharing these choices - I'm gradually making my way through them all. Plus I like how it's 'ten records' and yet I actually lost count of how many you mentioned! Great stuff. Please keep it coming!

    • @TenMinuteRecordReviews
      @TenMinuteRecordReviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! I'm glad it's been helpful. I may well do a follow-up soon as I have been asked about the "next 10". I appreciate the feedback.

  • @bethellodge
    @bethellodge 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Some other choices could include:
    Song for my Father - Horace Silver
    Speak No Evil - Wayne Shorter.

  • @danmartinez5502
    @danmartinez5502 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video Turrentine & the 3 sounds "Blue Hour " will convince many to check out Jazz . I have used it many times..

  • @alexl5083
    @alexl5083 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Here’s my list for beginners. 😁
    Thelonius Monk plays Duke Ellington
    Ella Fitzgerald - Sings Cole Porter Song Book
    Miles Davis - Kind of Blue
    John Coltrane- Plays The Blues
    Bill Evans Trio - Waltz for Debbie
    Kenny Barrel - Midnight Blue
    Stan Getz - Getz/Gilberto
    Cal Tjader - El Sonido Nuevo
    Miles Davis - In a silent way
    Herbie Hancock - Head Hunters

  • @komagome03
    @komagome03 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was great ! Thank you very much !

  • @billyohanluain6600
    @billyohanluain6600 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wonderful to watch such a knowledgeable presentation! Well done!

  • @Markymarkvinylnut
    @Markymarkvinylnut 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just to respond to your start... Jazz is one of those genre's that finds you, like a fine wine or single malt. The feelings that jazz generates for me is incredible and there is nothing like it. I feel truly humble about the struggle and journey of American jazz artists at a time of great civil unrest during this time which further helps the appreciation and enjoyment of jazz. I love the photography and art too.. Wolfe and Lion were ahead of the game!! (Ive tried so hard with Bitchesbrew too.. couldn't get it either) Sonny Rollins on impulse, chet baker sings, Wayne Shorter's 'etc' and Lee Morgan's the Rahja are on my deck a lot.

    • @TenMinuteRecordReviews
      @TenMinuteRecordReviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Me too on all of this. Another commenter was saying I shouldn’t be discounting the pre war stuff which is a fair comment. But like you, the connection between jazz and Black assertiveness in the face of Jim Crow racism in the 50s and 60s is what drives my connection to the music. So much passion and feeling (rage yeah, but also beauty and celebration and pride) in that music. The more you learn about the circumstances, the more exciting and humbling the listening experience.

  • @TheJuggernautv2
    @TheJuggernautv2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A great summary, thank you for posting.

  • @adn8099
    @adn8099 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cool statue and selections

  • @Markymarkvinylnut
    @Markymarkvinylnut 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is a wonderful video..much appreciated, thank you

  • @bf0189
    @bf0189 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Solid recommendations!
    Though I would argue modern jazz began with Coleman Hawkins - Body and Soul...such an important milestone.
    Also Duke Ellington's late career is fantstic! Theres plenty of great stuff in his later career. His live album Ellington At Newport is extremely important and that extender sax solo on Diminuendo and Crescendo in Blue from Paul Gonsalves is legendary. Let alone his later collabs with Coltrane and Mingus.
    I would have addeed Mingus Ah-Um speaking of Mingus!
    Bitches Brew is something I could never get into either and prefer In A Silent Way too.
    For me Dixieland jazz is more of heitorical curoisity and I enjoy it that way but not in the same way I enjoy 1940 onwards jazz. West End Blues is an exception however!

    • @TenMinuteRecordReviews
      @TenMinuteRecordReviews  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, very good additions to all this. And indeed if I were to do this video again I might spend more time on late career Duke and Basie. Must dig into that Newport record again.

  • @iconix21
    @iconix21 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! 👊

  • @alexl5083
    @alexl5083 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for doing this video Alen! Interesting choices solid beginnings. I hope your video encourages the 20 somethings out there who know nothing about jazz to discover this amazing and wonderful art form.!
    I would’ve plugged Thelonius Monk plays Duke Ellington kind of a merge of the early jazz form with the modern!

    • @TenMinuteRecordReviews
      @TenMinuteRecordReviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I did think about the Ellington/Coltrane album, along those lines. Impossible to find “the” 10 records of course.

    • @alexl5083
      @alexl5083 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TenMinuteRecordReviews Indeed, difficult when left with only 10 options. You did a great job. Looking forward to the next jazz review!

  • @garyrobinson8665
    @garyrobinson8665 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. I'd say I'm a casual jazz listener. These are my top 5 picks for beginners in no particular order.
    5. Getz/Gilberto
    4. Chet Baker Sings
    3. Bill Evans Moonbeams
    2. Antonio Carlos Jobim The Composer Of Desifinado Plays
    1. Blossom Dearie My Gentleman Friend

  • @rkonarski1
    @rkonarski1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks, Allan. Always been interested in getting opportunities to expand my listening catalogue.

  • @brianbillings6815
    @brianbillings6815 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's a well thought out ten and I'd suggest a bit atypical group. Nice to see Grover Washington Jr. getting recognition though I've rarely heard him mentioned by jazz historians.

    • @TenMinuteRecordReviews
      @TenMinuteRecordReviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The ironic thing with Grover - a bit like Turrentine - is that he’s better known for IMO the less impressive, later parts of his discography. The stuff he did as part of Creed Taylor’s session band, leader or sideman, is very good.

    • @brianbillings6815
      @brianbillings6815 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TenMinuteRecordReviews Buffalo and Western NY were a happening jazz scene in those days. Grover, Dr Lonnie Smith & Sal Nistico that I can name off the top of my head.

  • @Dave-xz1hg
    @Dave-xz1hg ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I'm always up for a good "top 10"! I appreciate that you chose several selections which are never found on the usual greatest albums lists. Personally, I'm not sure I would recommend the Alice Coltrane to a jazz newbie. And as for your inclusion of Sinatra/Jobim as your vocal selection - THAT's where I have a real problem! Trane/Johnny Hartman, Nancy Wilson/Cannonball, about 50 albums by Sassy, The Audience With Betty Carter, Shirley Horn - all of these are passed over for that one?! To each their own, but IMO, Sinatra/Jobim isn't close to either of their best work. I know I'm outnumbered, but I've never been comfortable with Frank's phrasing on that one, and I always prefer the songs in the original Portuguese. To my ears, the are far more enjoyable Bossa Nova records, starting with Tom and Elis, or Joao Gilbertos deep catalog. Don't get me wrong, I truly love listening to your excellent reviews - Thanks and keep'em coming!

    • @TenMinuteRecordReviews
      @TenMinuteRecordReviews  ปีที่แล้ว

      Fair comment! Though I wouldn’t call this a top ten list - few of these would make that list for me. The intent really is to introduce listeners to good examples of a variety of styles which (for the most part) are available for little cost on vinyl. Also limited by the records in my collection, which at that point included very little vocal jazz. Still don’t have that much, not really my thing outside bossa nova, but I have picked up a few Sarah Vaughans. Your suggestions are all excellent!

  • @thejuggernaut5327
    @thejuggernaut5327 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I started mine with Ellington at Newport

  • @casawhite4541
    @casawhite4541 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love ❤️ this video

  • @JazzInspires
    @JazzInspires 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video.

  • @franktatom1837
    @franktatom1837 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Any person who wants to understand jazz from 1950 on must listen to early jazz. Limiting one's listening based on the fact that old records sound bad is depriving oneself of an amazing three decades of music. Jelly Roll Morton, Bix, Armstrong's Hot Fives and Sevens, Fats Waller,, Ellington's 30's recordings, etc., I could go on. Most of this music can be obtained on cd or on used vinyl in the Time/Life Giants of Jazz sets, which are great (they even produced a set on Henry "Red" Allen, a contemporary of Armstrong with a career almost as long). And the diaspora of jazz musicians from New Orleans resulted from the closing, by Navy Secretary FDR, of the red light district there during WWI, depriving the musicians of a living, causing them to move to other mob-controlled towns, such as K.C. and Chicago. Also, very important to read about jazz, Gary Giddins recent book is excellent, Ted Gioa's West Coast Jazz is excellent, Eddie Condon wrote several entertaining books about early jazz, he knew Bix.

    • @TenMinuteRecordReviews
      @TenMinuteRecordReviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for your comment. I take the point, and I thought a lot about it prior to the video. I may not have expressed myself as clearly as I could.
      I do feel that there is a fairly seismic difference between prewar jazz and what came after. I’ve listened to 20s and 30s jazz a lot; for a time I was part of the swing dance revival in the 90s and that was almost all I listened to in those years. But that was before I truly discovered what one might call for lack of a better term modern jazz. To me, the post 1945 period sounds emancipated and that’s what’s exciting; what came before to me exists within much stricter boundaries.
      So perhaps I have myself done what you recommend. But at the same time, I can’t get passionate enough about the big band era to say here, sit with these Ellington records in order to appreciate Pharoah Sanders. It’s the same tradition but there is a watershed moment where things are very different afterwards. To me that’d be like saying a beginner rock fan must listen to Robert Johnson in order to get into Pearl Jam. While I would understand that recommendation, I don’t think it’s necessary to begin with, because while the strands of DNA are there the experience is fundamentally different.
      I should probably have called it “to start your *modern* jazz collection”! I meant no disrespect to Duke and his peers.

    • @williamfagan7835
      @williamfagan7835 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I agree. There is way too much material online that just talks about jazz as though there was a peak between 1955 and 1965 (60 years ago !) and which appeared on LPs, as though it was the only stuff worth listening to. The list here is typical of this approach. Allan I love your videos and I understand where your taste lies, but this gives a very restricted view of the wonderful world of jazz. There was wonderful music in the Armstrong-Ellington-Parker continuum which is enjoyable and worth listening to today and important to know if one is to get a full understanding of where jazz came from and also how it influenced other genres of music. In the 60 years since 1965 there has been a lot of wonderful recorded jazz which is worth listening to. The other aspect of this is that often the best jazz was not that recorded in studios but that which was performed before an audience in clubs or concert halls. In addition, there is a tendency to regard the best jazz as being that recorded by American musicians in studios in the US, but a lot of wonderful jazz was created by musicians who were not American in different countries around the world. What you are giving here, despite the nod to the Brazilians, gives a very restricted view of the global nature and impact of jazz and also a very narrow menu for those who may be starting to get an interest in jazz. I don't agree with your premise that pre-1950s jazz is less exciting than what came afterwards and, intellectually, this also runs counter to ignoring what happened after the 1960s. Personally, I like it all from the beginning up to the present and it would not be unusual for me to take a record by Louis Armstrong off the turntable and follow it up with one by John Coltrane. Watershed moments have been happening in jazz since the 1920s and they were not just restricted to the 1950s and 60s.

  • @c11p
    @c11p ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great list.
    Also nice to see the Jones/Davis honorable mention.
    What do you think about the recent Elvin Jones Revival: Live at Pookie's Pub release?

    • @TenMinuteRecordReviews
      @TenMinuteRecordReviews  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks. As for Elvin, that’s not a record I know in its earlier iterations. I take it it’s good?

    • @TenMinuteRecordReviews
      @TenMinuteRecordReviews  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And now, having checked, I understand *why* I hadn’t heard of it before. :-)

    • @c11p
      @c11p ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TenMinuteRecordReviews :-)
      Highly recommended!

  • @i.n.o.productionscompany9699
    @i.n.o.productionscompany9699 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It took me from the age of 15 to almost 35 to understand Bitches Brew and when it finally made sense I had just smoked the greatest ganja ever and was couch locked. I'm 47 now and still remember the moment it clicked and I said "Ohhhhhhhhhh okay, NOW I get it!"

  • @jeshurunabinadab6560
    @jeshurunabinadab6560 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, much appreciated. Also, can’t agree more about In A Silent Way over Bitches Brew 👍

  • @nikitabukin780
    @nikitabukin780 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like your Lenin bust. :)

  • @mikewebber3693
    @mikewebber3693 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mal Waldron's 'The Quest', essential

  • @disrupt19
    @disrupt19 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good list! I'm 41 now and when I was 23 I got into jazz after my girlfriend at the time showed me Take Five off of Time Out so I definitely agree there. The one I liked after that was Miles Smiles. Also agree with The Bill Evans Trio Village Vanguard Record over KoB although both should be in every jazz collection. Good to idea to get Giant Steps before A Love Supreme too. Sonny Rollins' Saxophone Colossus is essential hard bop. In the fusion category I'd pick Herbie Hancock's Head Hunters alongside In A Silent Way. Bitches Brew can be a little much for a lot of people. The Shape of Jazz To Come by Ornette Coleman is another one I was really into in the beginning. I could've sworn I saw Art Blakey And The Jazz Messengers on that pile at some point. That and Lee Morgan's Sidewinder are great Blue Note picks. Just my 2 cents.

    • @disrupt19
      @disrupt19 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh! Also, for vocal jazz my pick is Dinah Jams by Dinah Washington with Clifford Brown and Max Roach. Love that album!

    • @1999zrx1100
      @1999zrx1100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree on your Lee Morgan ‘ Sidewinder ‘ that took the Jazz world by storm when it came in the 60’s. there is great Documentary on him on Netflix called I Called Him Morgan, check it out. 😎

    • @TenMinuteRecordReviews
      @TenMinuteRecordReviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Saw it! It’s terrific.

  • @topherg1935
    @topherg1935 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the Alice Coltrane and In A Silent Way picks. My CTI pick would be Randy Weston Blue Moses

  • @christiangarcia9245
    @christiangarcia9245 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love bebop and I’m hip with all the history and the points you touched on. But can you elaborate on Branford Marsalis?

    • @TenMinuteRecordReviews
      @TenMinuteRecordReviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haha well perhaps it sounded like a dig, not intended. In truth - not having the time or inclination to get into this in the video - while I find BM to be a hugely talented musician and thoughtful person, I think his music is quintessentially postmodern. He occurs at the point where the linear outward expansion of jazz has slowed to a crawl and the music has become more self-referential and backward looking. That’s not his fault, it’s a characteristic of society (just look at my channel!), and to be clear he hasn’t been (as) dismissive of new music like Wynton. But unlike other earlier household names in jazz, like Armstrong or Dizzy or Blakey or Miles or Coltrane or Simone or Tyner or Sanders or Jarrett or Metheny, I’d be hard put to explain the specific developments in jazz one might associate with him.
      That said, he’s done some cool experiments over the years, even if they haven’t stuck or always worked. So maybe he does deserve his own video!

  • @TheKizersoze13
    @TheKizersoze13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Here is my 10
    1. Take 5
    2 Kind of Blue
    3 Ethiopian Nights
    4 Moanin
    5 Getz/Gilberto
    6 Head Hunters
    7 Coltrane / Hartman
    8 Midnight Blue
    9 Sidewinder
    10 Any Bill Evans live record.
    Not all styles are represented but it hits most of them and are great albums that are kinda easy to find at the moment. All under $50 if not cheaper.

    • @TenMinuteRecordReviews
      @TenMinuteRecordReviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Love Ethiopian Knights. Such a brilliant groove all the way through.

    • @brianbillings6815
      @brianbillings6815 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Moanin' for me is a must in any top ten

  • @MarkSchultz-lf3dq
    @MarkSchultz-lf3dq 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    What, no Dexter Gordon? I would have added Gordon's One Flight Up to the list. Who can leave off Donald Byrd's Tanya?

  • @TheJazzHog
    @TheJazzHog 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How about the next 20 records once you started?

  • @manolisgeorgakakis6342
    @manolisgeorgakakis6342 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! Heavy Sounds is a beautiful record, but it doesn't fit your price and availability criteria.

    • @TenMinuteRecordReviews
      @TenMinuteRecordReviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're absolutely right! it's a bit pricey, sadly the case for early pressings of most of the great spiritual jazz.

  • @SmartDave60
    @SmartDave60 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No Mingus?!

    • @TenMinuteRecordReviews
      @TenMinuteRecordReviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not in this ten. I think Mingus is great but an acquired taste rather than someone who will entice the novice. (Of course I had already put an arguably more-difficult-to-acquire taste on the list with the Coltrane suggestion, so don't look to me for consistency!)

  • @dreaboi
    @dreaboi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey man-really love your videos, even when I totally disagree with your choices! I do think there’s a lot lost in the historical record when jazz is looked at exclusively as a black musical phenomenon, when it was a melting pot of both black and white. Ex, the harmony and pop song forms that were (and are) indispensable to jazz-even modern-are from Broadway composers. Yes, the story of jazz is primarily related to the black experience in America, but it’s impossible just to split it out along racial lines. I think a certain set of jazz historians left us with biases that tugged in the opposite direction from the prevailing racial attitudes of the time-maybe properly, to provide some corrective balance-but enough time has passed, imo, that we can disengage from the politics and address the music as music. Anyway, love and respect what you do; just my two cents.
    Btw, as I know you’re into Brazil-have you gotten into Djavan? I think he’s as great a songwriter as anyone who’s ever lived. Also dig some of the Portela sambatistas like Cartola, Paulinho da Viola, Clara Nunes, etc. That’s a big, enjoyable rabbit hole for you. Be good.

  • @makimakipapura7543
    @makimakipapura7543 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is that a Lennin statue?

  • @alexl5083
    @alexl5083 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Had a thought, you may want to create a PO Box Address for some of your viewers that want to gift you with vinyl. Just a thought.

    • @TenMinuteRecordReviews
      @TenMinuteRecordReviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha! Well I hadn’t thought about that. But I am going to make some t shirts at some point so that day may come :)

  • @dlove2830
    @dlove2830 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hank Mobley (Soul Station); Miles Davis (Kind of Blue); John Coltrane (Giant Steps); Joe Henderson (Page One); Wayne Shorter (Speak No Evil); Herbie Hancock (Empyrean Isles); Bill Evans (Portrait in Jazz); Billie Holiday (Clef Records); Art Blakey (Night in Tunisia); and Kenny Durham (Quiet Kenny)...now THAT'S Ten Records to start a jazz collection. And all of those records have affordable reissues. Once you get these records, THEN you can branch out into Bossa Nova (Donald Byrd - Slow Drag), Avant Garde (Out to Lunch - Eric Dolphy, Grachun Moncur III - Evolution, Andrew Hill - Black Fire), BeBop (Charlie Parker - Afro-Cuban RSD 2023 is a good choice), Funk Jazz (Jack McDuff - Moon Rappin', Joe Henderson - Power to the People)...and whatever else floats your boat afterwards. But, to START a jazz collection, you want to start with the BEST. And IF YOU CAN AFFORD IT, you MUST get Lee Morgan Vol. 3 and Candy; Horace Parlan - Us Three; and Sonny Clark - Leapin' and Lopin', Cool Struttin' and Sonny's Crib. It will cost you to get Horace Parlin and Sonny Clark, BUT the Tone Poet reissue of Sonny Clark's Trio is coming out this year, so you definitely should purchase that for your jazz collection.

    • @TenMinuteRecordReviews
      @TenMinuteRecordReviews  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If your point of view is that hard bop and modal jazz is the best jazz and everything else is secondary, that’s a great list. IMHO there are lots of other styles of jazz, just as worthy depending on your taste, which is the point of the video.