Long ago while at Westminster Choir College, I was practicing this kind of singing one night in the Chapel while the windows were open. Some male students walking by were freaking and rushed in to look. We started singing an Anglican chat while I sang the words of a psalm - "OUT OF THE DEEP I CRY UNTO THEE, O LORD." They were sooo freaked! I am now 63 tears old.
Thats not really what you need to learn to do the beans sound. The bass he is doing is called (throat bass) its used alot in beatboxing just like the one markeeeey uses if u know him. There is many tutorials just search throat bass tutorial. It took me about 5 month but its worth it
After 3 months of training and vocal exercise. I have finally been able to shift into subharmonic. From how it feels, the throat is vibrating very strongly, this might be very good for deepening the voice. How did I reach it? Vocal fry is probably the only way to shift into it, after you do it for quite sometime you can do it on demand. I realised that in order to do it it's all about feeling and putting your throat in a position that will make your vocal chords to vibrate in those different registers. What I'm saying is, all you gotta do is play with your throat muscles until your vocal chords shift naturally to the subharmonic. A better way to explain this is: I keep a tone and shift my throat muscles to sound deep yet still keep the tone I want, that's how it feels for me. This technique isn't talked about alot and I think it's because it's hard to explain, similar to how to move your ears or how to make a burp, it's just something you somehow stumble upon, and in order to achieve it you just gotta trial and error. Goodluck to you all, this type of singing is fascinating.
From what it sounds like, it's just like learning to whistle or snap. People can explain it to you all day but really you just have to find it for yourself. I haven't found it yet but still trying.
I was trying to learn this the other day and all of a sudden I just acquired 5 extra notes. I recorded it and it's scary to listen back, I went from A#1 in chest down to a C1 in sub, what the fuuuuuuuuu. But yes, as you said it, it is clumsy. I'm not a singer, I'm just having fun while training my support.
I remember seeing the F#1 note a while back and said FML lol. Now with hundreds of belly aches later, it's there. It's just a matter of getting the right equipment to record, right now I am just using a cheap Samsung cell phone so it sounds pretty flat and like a grandmother. Your techniques are flawless!
It's funny you say that cuz I can say it just perfect like the meme but cant sing like this yet, I'm actually just here to learn to sing like a demon lol.
This would be my dream acapella group Tenor: Caleb hyles Lead: David Larson Baritone: Jonathan young(he can also sing bass) Bass:(obviously) David Kahn Beatboxer: Marcus Perez
Learning these techniques many years ago have taken me from my normal G1 low chest note to a B0. It's something to already be a basso profundo and able to go even lower now.
Started practising this a bit as well. My register is between F2 and G4, so didn't take too long to actually manage to make out the sound in the first few days. Not much use, but really fun to have something new behind the back!
Thank you sir. You enabled me the knowledge and the ability to access the subharmonic range, I reached it for the first time yesterday. I have been trying to sing it for many years and was never able to do it but after your video and one other fellow, and many practices and many years later I was finally able to do it yesterday even for a moment nonetheless I did, thanks to you. This is monumental achievement for me, God bless.
victoria & Johnny rodriguez Avi Kaplan uses that technique on his a capella academy video. For anyone curious, look it up and skip to the “scales going down” of the video.
@@zain4019 Sorry this is a year late, but I'm pretty sure his scales going down are all in chest. They sound very smooth, and the lowest he goes in that video is a C2 (which he doesn't need subharmonics to hit).
@Nini Beats @Julian Potter Music You’re both of course right. I don’t know who I was replying to in what context when I wrote that comment, but yes, Avi’s notes are definitely in chest voice, in his live performances and albums as well as that video I mentioned.
This video was so helpful. I already had a deep/low voice, and for the longest time I have struggled to go lower (my lowest was a Bb1). But through practice and PATIENCE, I’ve started to make progress Also a tip i think would help is to practice the fry David explains in the vid and find a note in your subharmonic register that is comfortable for you (similar to how the voice switches from chest to falsetto) Thanks for the help David!
I learned the same subharmonic technique from David Larson’s video a couple of years ago. I have also developed the same hypothesis of how it works with the 2:3 ratio creating an octave undertone! That is how I explain it to people. Thank you for the information!
How can I do this without having to clear my throat a ton? Because I can sing quite low, but I find it impossible to do without clearing my throat A LOT
@@FDE-fw1hd Thats what I'm wondering actually, is this the same technique as say Codfish or Bigman frequently call "throat bass" or is that something else? Because there are a few techniques that sound fairly similar
Just found out about this earlier today and got obsessed. Everyone was saying sing then add fry, but you said the opposite and I actually got it! Just for a second then I got so happy. Such a cool feeling and I'm gonna start practicing this so hard. Thank you!
Hey, i just wanted to say thank u... I am 16 now and i started one year ago because of ur tutorial... It's perfect i love it and it works almost all the time
A trick is a good way to describe it, so respect for being honest about it. People don't seem to realize that the occasional note below low C does not a real bass make. A real bass sings with ease, power, and tone on G2, F2, E2, and possibly D2 as well, all day every day, in full chest voice. Any baritone can slip into a modal fry register to crank out something below the staff. I personally find E2 and D2 harder than lower notes, because they sit at the bottom of the chest, but not so low as to really require a registral shift. I think of it as the bottom passaggio.
This makes more sense to me than most of the other videos I've seen on this. He seems to be saying "subharmonic signing" just means mixing vocal fry and chest, to get some extra notes at the bottom without getting too pure with the fry (and hence indistinct with the pitch and poor on the vocal quality) too fast. That makes sense. I'm not sure what that has to do with flipping down an octave, though. Why not just sing low then lower, mixing in as little fry as you can, then when you've got that try a little lower, and bingo! One day you'll be singing a G1 like Glenn Miller? What's flipping down an octave as you add the fry got to do with anything? What am I missing, here?
I think that doesn't work because we have a limit to chest voice, adding the fry is what allows for it (hence the octave part). I suppose u could try and lessen the amount of fry and try to get it in chest, but you're probably gonna lose sum of the power as you go deeper.
Hey David, I've been doing subharmonic singing for quite a while and I've managed to make the next step in the subharmonic series. Since the subharmonic series mirrors the overtones series the next step is an octave and a perfect fifth below the fundamental. It's like doing what you're already doing but finding the sweet spot between having the octave and losing it. There is a very specific spot where you have an octave and a fifth below the fundamental. For example if you sang a G2, then used subharmonics to get down to G1, then balanced it just right you'd get a C1.
Could you watch my video on my page and give me some pointers, and practice techniques. Also, I think I found that other spot you're referring to (Not in my video) but it shoots it down 2 octives to an -A#. Still can't figure out exactly how I'm doing it. I'm Brand new to all of this and never had a vocal lesson in my life. Starting school in Jan. For music. Thx
Great tutorial and info David! However, I have to point out, that I'm fairly sure one of the things you've said is incorrect. I don't think that the subharmonic technique is produced by simultaneously singing two notes a perfect fifth apart. I've heard this one mentioned a lot so I don't blame you for mentioning it. I've also noticed that often when this idea is mentioned the person saying it is unsure of how it works and how to explain it. This "missing fundamental" idea is a psychological phenomenon where the brain hears the two notes (or more) , and thinks they must be harmonics of a lower note. If you hear any demonstrations of this, you can use a spectral analyser to actually see if that note is there or not. And also, how would the two vocal folds just happen to sing two different notes at once, and always have them perfectly a perfect fifth (excuse the pun) apart? That doesn't really make sense. What I believe is a more likely is that the subharmonics are produced by the vocal folds not vibrating evenly - only hitting each other after every second cycle. This would produce a frequency half of what the regular fundamental is, giving us the undertone we hear. Both of the phenomena I mentioned are addressed by Adam Neely in his video "SUBHARMONIC Music (Anomalous Low Frequency Vibration)". The second phenomena is also demonstrated in mathematician Matt Parker (standupmaths)'s video "The Tuning Fork Mystery: unexpected vibrations", which he did with physicist Hugh Hunt. In both of these videos they address the fact that the second phenomena will only happen under the condition where a tuning fork (or another vibrating object) is held in such a way that it doesn't hit another surface during every cycle (3:15 in the Adam Neely video and 6:00 in the Matt Parker video). This has lead me to believe that relaxing the vocal cords to sing subharmonics is performing the same phenomena - the vocal folds are only hitting each other every second cycle. Hopefully all of the stuff I've mentioned made sense and is interesting to people, and also helps to dispel what I believe to be a myth. Of course if anyone has some counterarguments to my point I'd love to hear them, and further the knowledge of all of us on the topic. PS: If any physicists/human anatomists/other researchers have any time to conduct some studies on this, that would be awesome to see.
I picked this up almost instantly and can do it all day no fatigue no pain etc, trying to find info on chest frying however seems to be fewer than subs. Started off at b2 to b1 now I easily get to g1, and E1 pretty much at will.
I had watched a lot of videos on how to do this and couldn't figure it out, and then one day at school I was singing softly enough that I accidentally did it. I tried again and kept trying, and now I'm fairly good at it, but the way I discovered it was a complete fluke. But this video was by far the most helpful, thanks a lot man! 🔥
If you hold a note and restrict the airflow whilst slowing down (if that makes sense) the vibrations, it should become a vocal fry. another way to hear a similar sound is by doing inward vocal fry.
This is actually equivalent to human bass in "beatbox". But it's actually a singing technique like you said. That's probably why there is not a lot of tutorials on subharmonic.
OMG I did it! It's actually like a dance, it's like your voice has to fall in place. I just did it so I gotta practice now that i know how it works. the first and easiest note for me was G#1. but my voice is still clumsy as you'd expect.
harmonic series is a collection of overtones that go in this order: the fundamental, fundamental x2, then x3, x4, x5, x6 etc, which sound like: the fundemental, an octave above, an octave and a 5th, 2 octaves, 2 octaves and a maj3, 2 oct and a 5th, 2 oct and a half-sharp 7, 3 oct, etc. whilst the subharmonic series doesn't actually exist acoustically, it can be emulated by using techniques like this to skip cycles of the fundamental. for example, by using fry to cancel out every other oscillation of the fundamental of his voice, this fella has emulated dividing his fundamental note by 2, dropping him an octave. if you divide it by 3, you go down an octave and a 5th, divide by 4, 2 octaves... seem familiar? it's an exact opposite reflection of the harmonic series. not sure if this will help anyone or be interesting or eloquently put enough to actually understood by anyone, but I just had to put it out here because maths in music is fucking whack and worth looking in to.
Thank you so much!!! This helped me a lot!! I wasn't sure of how to find my subharmonic register at first but you explained it well! I've found it but i haven't managed to take control over it yet!! Plus, while trying to find it, i managed to hit my lowest note so far - a D2!! Took me 2 hours of going up and down with my voice to finally start to feel it, but at least i have something to work with! Thank you!
Im getting vocal fatique or a weak voice after doing low notes or bass exercises. Im a doing something wrong? Im doing this 3 times a week but since getting couintousley fatique i had to short it down to one time a week.
Dude I’m so happy that I came across this video. I heard so much about subharmonics and how you need to do vocal fry to achieve it and this whole time I didn’t even know what vocal fry. When you showed what it was I realized that I’ve been doing that vocal fry crackling sound since I was kid just for fun. Simply put some chest voice in it and within seconds of this video I was singing really low. Thanks you so much!!
Beeing doing it for years unknowingly cause I thought its fun. Its quite easy. Wanted to learn it but it just turns out I have to learn how to sing/stay on notes 😂
So is it basically a difference tone? I know a similar thing occurs when playing guitar. I noticed that when playing a D chord, if I didn't mute the A string, I would hear the Low D2 as though I was playing in drop D. When I researched it, it is due to the difference between the frequencies of A3 and the D3 (220 and 146.8) is 73.2 which is approximately a D2 (73.42).
Managed to make it work with first time while watching video, but it will probably take forever to be able to shift it whenever i want and actually keep going. It seems like it works for now on one note and one note only and for about 3-4sec. But its cool im really happy i finally managed to do something cool with my voice. Thanks for tutorial man!
Here's a question to you though, have you managed to work out how to slide from chest to sub and back again smoothly? I know that's real tricky to mask that vocal flip going head to falsetto. Trying it down there is even more difficult, so have you managed to work it out?
Literally run it with scales. Know your bottom full voice note, and keep practicing about a fifth above that then flip when you hit the note below it. Vocally you’re jumping up the octave, but the fry makes it sound like your continuing the scale on that octave. I could record an example for you if you’d like.
I’m having issues with higher notes (within subharmonics), I would like a C2 in subharmonics but that’s kind of high since that is in my actual range but I would like to make the transition smoother but the high ones are just giving me a little trouble
Hey dude when I’m trying to do the vocal fry combined with the note, I hit a major seventh below. It’s really weird. For example when I sing normally I can sing an A2 but when I add the vocal fry it goes to Bb1 any tips?
God damn... you're a genius. It's working for me. So from now I just have to practice. It's gonna be hard, it will definitely require time for me but from now I see light at the end of the tunnel. Thank you very much 💪😘👍
@@DavidKahnSings so for me it definitely requires a lot of practice but when I do it like shown my vocals chords start kinda like rumbling on their own. It's a specific feeling in your vocal chords. From there I try to slowly level up or down the notes. It's hard but not impossible. Once you figured out how it works and how to do, the rest is just practice in consistency.
Hello, David! I have a question, how do you feel your resonance in the chest area when singing subharmonic? Is it strong as in chest voice or is it only in your trachea as in fry register? Or somewhere in between. Thank you.
Do you know which adduction mechanism brings the arytenoid cartilages together to create fry/subharmonic creaking? I wonder if it's the LCA, IA, TA or a certain combination of those. If you have read any studies about this, please let me know. Thanks! Great video :)
Wow, full RESPECT man!! ur subharmonic singing(SHS) resonates so strongly, i would literally die if i listen to u in real person. Actually i've been practicing SHS for almost half year and I just reach the stage where I can project B1-G1 without popping up to B2-G2, for notes higher than that, the upper octave becomes louder thus not 'pure low' anymore; for notes lower, my SHS kinda collapses to vocal fry which isn't useful imo. Another problem I encountered is that I can hardly SHS when my voice is fully warmed up or even a bit overdrived (eg: at the end of the day, after singing for a long time or just finished eating hot spicy food etc.), like the whole register is gone, i slip right into vocal fry when i try to SHS. btw i define myself as a baritone of age 23, with lowest chest voice of D2 (B1 when just get out of bed). Do u have any ideas on 1. extend range; 2.amplify resonance; 3. keep SHS register? Plz help me out. THX a lot!!
I tried to add vocal fry into a B3 note (in falsetto), and at a balanced point, I can hear the original B3 in falsetto as well as an extra B2 note at the same time. Does it share the similar concepts with subharmonic ?
hope you find this helpful🖤
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You can book a lesson with an actual voice teacher! Nobody has learned to sing reading a book or looking at the video. Rediculous.
Long ago while at Westminster Choir College, I was practicing this kind of singing one night in the Chapel while the windows were open. Some male students walking by were freaking and rushed in to look. We started singing an Anglican chat while I sang the words of a psalm - "OUT OF THE DEEP I CRY UNTO THEE, O LORD." They were sooo freaked! I am now 63 tears old.
I went there!
Wtf. xD
I like how you measure your age in tears
@@justagerman140 So I have at least 9000 tears old.
You must have cried alot if you're 63 tears old
Me, finding a three year old video sp that I can go
"b e a ns wtfffff"
Same
Lol
Thats not really what you need to learn to do the beans sound. The bass he is doing is called (throat bass) its used alot in beatboxing just like the one markeeeey uses if u know him. There is many tutorials just search throat bass tutorial. It took me about 5 month but its worth it
th-cam.com/video/gWM0zMC1IUE/w-d-xo.html
Same to
After 3 months of training and vocal exercise. I have finally been able to shift into subharmonic. From how it feels, the throat is vibrating very strongly, this might be very good for deepening the voice.
How did I reach it? Vocal fry is probably the only way to shift into it, after you do it for quite sometime you can do it on demand. I realised that in order to do it it's all about feeling and putting your throat in a position that will make your vocal chords to vibrate in those different registers. What I'm saying is, all you gotta do is play with your throat muscles until your vocal chords shift naturally to the subharmonic. A better way to explain this is: I keep a tone and shift my throat muscles to sound deep yet still keep the tone I want, that's how it feels for me. This technique isn't talked about alot and I think it's because it's hard to explain, similar to how to move your ears or how to make a burp, it's just something you somehow stumble upon, and in order to achieve it you just gotta trial and error.
Goodluck to you all, this type of singing is fascinating.
i have a deep voice but its hard to project for me any tip??
From what it sounds like, it's just like learning to whistle or snap. People can explain it to you all day but really you just have to find it for yourself. I haven't found it yet but still trying.
oh man exactly.@@thatfunkadeus
I was trying to learn this the other day and all of a sudden I just acquired 5 extra notes. I recorded it and it's scary to listen back, I went from A#1 in chest down to a C1 in sub, what the fuuuuuuuuu. But yes, as you said it, it is clumsy. I'm not a singer, I'm just having fun while training my support.
@Spider Light what the fuuuuuuck
When you an actual legit bass singer can't even do subharmonics that a non singer sing so casually: 👁️👄👁️
I don't know what it is about that note but it always gives me chills...
Everytime i hear someone's voice go THAT low i get chills, and I never get chills from anything else
i might sound creepy but you voice gave me goosebumps, an eargasm and a one way trip to mars for my wig
Delusional
That’s called asmr
He's creepy
Step ear what are you doing
Haha that’s good🖤
I love David's. They know so much about the subharmonic register. (Shoutout David Larson)
alan o brien lol zapp too. Larson’s videos are what kept me a bass against some amazing basses who’ve I’ve auditioned against for my a cappella group.
I think you hit the brown note subharmonic. I shat my pants when I heard that F#.
I remember seeing the F#1 note a while back and said FML lol. Now with hundreds of belly aches later, it's there. It's just a matter of getting the right equipment to record, right now I am just using a cheap Samsung cell phone so it sounds pretty flat and like a grandmother. Your techniques are flawless!
Not me trying to learn it so i can say "She made me fukin BEAANS"
same
thats throat bass not subharmonics
It’s not a fry technique it’s more like bass singing
It's funny you say that cuz I can say it just perfect like the meme but cant sing like this yet, I'm actually just here to learn to sing like a demon lol.
This would be my dream acapella group
Tenor: Caleb hyles
Lead: David Larson
Baritone: Jonathan young(he can also sing bass)
Bass:(obviously) David Kahn
Beatboxer: Marcus Perez
Beatboxer u should put MTS
Geof??
Bruv Dharni would be the best beatboxer
@@braydinoaverysaur6532 yeah same thought.
I second this
Learning these techniques many years ago have taken me from my normal G1 low chest note to a B0. It's something to already be a basso profundo and able to go even lower now.
That’s what this is really for imo, but still fun for all!
Unless he has a twin who is a tenor.... this makes no sense!
Simply amazing 🤩😫
This was so helpful, I was practicing this and I was able to go down to G1 soo thanks lol
No problem dude! Glad to help💪 please consider checking out my debut single available everywhere🤓
Started practising this a bit as well. My register is between F2 and G4, so didn't take too long to actually manage to make out the sound in the first few days. Not much use, but really fun to have something new behind the back!
Thank you sir. You enabled me the knowledge and the ability to access the subharmonic range, I reached it for the first time yesterday. I have been trying to sing it for many years and was never able to do it but after your video and one other fellow, and many practices and many years later I was finally able to do it yesterday even for a moment nonetheless I did, thanks to you. This is monumental achievement for me, God bless.
Are there techniques to increase volume? Or does it just get louder over the years?
it gets louder with practice.
victoria & Johnny rodriguez
Avi Kaplan uses that technique on his a capella academy video. For anyone curious, look it up and skip to the “scales going down” of the video.
@@zain4019 Sorry this is a year late, but I'm pretty sure his scales going down are all in chest. They sound very smooth, and the lowest he goes in that video is a C2 (which he doesn't need subharmonics to hit).
@@zain4019 Avi Kaplan never uses subharmonics
@Nini Beats @Julian Potter Music
You’re both of course right. I don’t know who I was replying to in what context when I wrote that comment, but yes, Avi’s notes are definitely in chest voice, in his live performances and albums as well as that video I mentioned.
Omgg on 0:26 I appear on your video, amazing !!!
I wanted to have a big YT name, Ps: I like cookies that is SOOOOOO awesome!!!!!!!
Lmao
I just paused it and saw your name
This video was so helpful. I already had a deep/low voice, and for the longest time I have struggled to go lower (my lowest was a Bb1). But through practice and PATIENCE, I’ve started to make progress
Also a tip i think would help is to practice the fry David explains in the vid and find a note in your subharmonic register that is comfortable for you (similar to how the voice switches from chest to falsetto)
Thanks for the help David!
1:46 Hes actually darth vader
flexin with that berklee sweatshirt
update i now go to berklee lol
@@benren10 im proud of you man
This guy is so talented
I learned the same subharmonic technique from David Larson’s video a couple of years ago. I have also developed the same hypothesis of how it works with the 2:3 ratio creating an octave undertone! That is how I explain it to people. Thank you for the information!
I wish you would teach more. I’d love to hear your approach to mixed voice and to belting!
I got you: th-cam.com/video/fi8IUwP0f7I/w-d-xo.html
How can I do this without having to clear my throat a ton? Because I can sing quite low, but I find it impossible to do without clearing my throat A LOT
Honestly bro, its not the healthiest thing to do with your voice all the time. But it is a neat trick occasionally ;)
@@DavidKahnSings beatboxers constantly use it😬
@@FDE-fw1hd Thats what I'm wondering actually, is this the same technique as say Codfish or Bigman frequently call "throat bass" or is that something else? Because there are a few techniques that sound fairly similar
@@tasty8186 no it isn't.
@@tasty8186 my comment was maybe exaggerated. However, throat bass is actually spammed a ton.
Just found out about this earlier today and got obsessed. Everyone was saying sing then add fry, but you said the opposite and I actually got it! Just for a second then I got so happy. Such a cool feeling and I'm gonna start practicing this so hard. Thank you!
Hey, i just wanted to say thank u... I am 16 now and i started one year ago because of ur tutorial... It's perfect i love it and it works almost all the time
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While he's "sick" he sounds a million times better than me. Sad.
A trick is a good way to describe it, so respect for being honest about it. People don't seem to realize that the occasional note below low C does not a real bass make. A real bass sings with ease, power, and tone on G2, F2, E2, and possibly D2 as well, all day every day, in full chest voice. Any baritone can slip into a modal fry register to crank out something below the staff. I personally find E2 and D2 harder than lower notes, because they sit at the bottom of the chest, but not so low as to really require a registral shift. I think of it as the bottom passaggio.
This makes more sense to me than most of the other videos I've seen on this. He seems to be saying "subharmonic signing" just means mixing vocal fry and chest, to get some extra notes at the bottom without getting too pure with the fry (and hence indistinct with the pitch and poor on the vocal quality) too fast. That makes sense. I'm not sure what that has to do with flipping down an octave, though. Why not just sing low then lower, mixing in as little fry as you can, then when you've got that try a little lower, and bingo! One day you'll be singing a G1 like Glenn Miller? What's flipping down an octave as you add the fry got to do with anything? What am I missing, here?
I think that doesn't work because we have a limit to chest voice, adding the fry is what allows for it (hence the octave part). I suppose u could try and lessen the amount of fry and try to get it in chest, but you're probably gonna lose sum of the power as you go deeper.
Hey David, I've been doing subharmonic singing for quite a while and I've managed to make the next step in the subharmonic series. Since the subharmonic series mirrors the overtones series the next step is an octave and a perfect fifth below the fundamental. It's like doing what you're already doing but finding the sweet spot between having the octave and losing it. There is a very specific spot where you have an octave and a fifth below the fundamental. For example if you sang a G2, then used subharmonics to get down to G1, then balanced it just right you'd get a C1.
Could you watch my video on my page and give me some pointers, and practice techniques. Also, I think I found that other spot you're referring to (Not in my video) but it shoots it down 2 octives to an -A#. Still can't figure out exactly how I'm doing it. I'm Brand new to all of this and never had a vocal lesson in my life. Starting school in Jan. For music. Thx
Yeah I did that except an octave above. Singing G3 got a C2
Great tutorial and info David!
However, I have to point out, that I'm fairly sure one of the things you've said is incorrect. I don't think that the subharmonic technique is produced by simultaneously singing two notes a perfect fifth apart. I've heard this one mentioned a lot so I don't blame you for mentioning it. I've also noticed that often when this idea is mentioned the person saying it is unsure of how it works and how to explain it. This "missing fundamental" idea is a psychological phenomenon where the brain hears the two notes (or more) , and thinks they must be harmonics of a lower note. If you hear any demonstrations of this, you can use a spectral analyser to actually see if that note is there or not. And also, how would the two vocal folds just happen to sing two different notes at once, and always have them perfectly a perfect fifth (excuse the pun) apart? That doesn't really make sense.
What I believe is a more likely is that the subharmonics are produced by the vocal folds not vibrating evenly - only hitting each other after every second cycle. This would produce a frequency half of what the regular fundamental is, giving us the undertone we hear.
Both of the phenomena I mentioned are addressed by Adam Neely in his video "SUBHARMONIC Music (Anomalous Low Frequency Vibration)". The second phenomena is also demonstrated in mathematician Matt Parker (standupmaths)'s video "The Tuning Fork Mystery: unexpected vibrations", which he did with physicist Hugh Hunt.
In both of these videos they address the fact that the second phenomena will only happen under the condition where a tuning fork (or another vibrating object) is held in such a way that it doesn't hit another surface during every cycle (3:15 in the Adam Neely video and 6:00 in the Matt Parker video). This has lead me to believe that relaxing the vocal cords to sing subharmonics is performing the same phenomena - the vocal folds are only hitting each other every second cycle.
Hopefully all of the stuff I've mentioned made sense and is interesting to people, and also helps to dispel what I believe to be a myth. Of course if anyone has some counterarguments to my point I'd love to hear them, and further the knowledge of all of us on the topic.
PS: If any physicists/human anatomists/other researchers have any time to conduct some studies on this, that would be awesome to see.
I’m a low tenor and I’ve been workings this for awhile just so I can add some more range to my voice
I picked this up almost instantly and can do it all day no fatigue no pain etc, trying to find info on chest frying however seems to be fewer than subs. Started off at b2 to b1 now I easily get to g1, and E1 pretty much at will.
I had watched a lot of videos on how to do this and couldn't figure it out, and then one day at school I was singing softly enough that I accidentally did it. I tried again and kept trying, and now I'm fairly good at it, but the way I discovered it was a complete fluke. But this video was by far the most helpful, thanks a lot man! 🔥
I’m a beatboxer, every time I try this I always go to a “throat bass”. I can’t seem to do it like you guys can.
🤣🤣🤣that's what I'm worried about now that I'm trying to learn this
i’m honestly in the opposite situation, i can’t do throat bass😢
Same! I keep doing throat bass to hit low notes every time I try 😭
If you hold a note and restrict the airflow whilst slowing down (if that makes sense) the vibrations, it should become a vocal fry. another way to hear a similar sound is by doing inward vocal fry.
This is actually equivalent to human bass in "beatbox". But it's actually a singing technique like you said. That's probably why there is not a lot of tutorials on subharmonic.
OMG I did it! It's actually like a dance, it's like your voice has to fall in place. I just did it so I gotta practice now that i know how it works. the first and easiest note for me was G#1. but my voice is still clumsy as you'd expect.
harmonic series is a collection of overtones that go in this order: the fundamental, fundamental x2, then x3, x4, x5, x6 etc, which sound like: the fundemental, an octave above, an octave and a 5th, 2 octaves, 2 octaves and a maj3, 2 oct and a 5th, 2 oct and a half-sharp 7, 3 oct, etc. whilst the subharmonic series doesn't actually exist acoustically, it can be emulated by using techniques like this to skip cycles of the fundamental. for example, by using fry to cancel out every other oscillation of the fundamental of his voice, this fella has emulated dividing his fundamental note by 2, dropping him an octave. if you divide it by 3, you go down an octave and a 5th, divide by 4, 2 octaves... seem familiar? it's an exact opposite reflection of the harmonic series. not sure if this will help anyone or be interesting or eloquently put enough to actually understood by anyone, but I just had to put it out here because maths in music is fucking whack and worth looking in to.
for an audible demonstration, look up the moog subharmonicon, it's a beautiful instrument that plays these notes.
That F#1 you produced instantly made me think of the Fire Temple. Love your videos (I've only seen two but I love them)
Remember when this and Larson's videos were the only ones on the topic? I'm really glad it's getting more exposure lately
I'm a Bb1 bass and just tried this. Got it once perfect on your example and then started coughing incessantly...gotta start practicing this!
This was so helpful ,i trained about a week and i was able to down as low to C1 even i just 19yrs ..... thanks
2:40 sounds like a mowing machine started working again😂😮
I can get a B1 without doing subharmonics, but can’t wait to start trying this!
Finally, as a baritone I can achieve bass notes
Get it bro💪💪
Wow! Overtone technique can shift to lower! Not only higher! Amazing!
Thank you so much!!! This helped me a lot!! I wasn't sure of how to find my subharmonic register at first but you explained it well! I've found it but i haven't managed to take control over it yet!! Plus, while trying to find it, i managed to hit my lowest note so far - a D2!! Took me 2 hours of going up and down with my voice to finally start to feel it, but at least i have something to work with! Thank you!
DIFFERNT YOUR THE FIRST GUY I'VE HEARD SING THAT BUT YOUR LIPS KEPT ME FOCUSED !!!!!
Im getting vocal fatique or a weak voice after doing low notes or bass exercises. Im a doing something wrong? Im doing this 3 times a week but since getting couintousley fatique i had to short it down to one time a week.
Just sleep on it
wow saying support the fry was much much more easier than all other youtubers were trying to teach us like clear throat etc
Dude, one day late to make this video perfect. May the 4th was yesterday! Regardless, very informative. Good stuff!
Lanky 😂😂💩
Thanks so much man. I just got it there trying to impersonate your Darth Vader impression.
That's the hardest part over with. Now time to practice!
Dude I’m so happy that I came across this video. I heard so much about subharmonics and how you need to do vocal fry to achieve it and this whole time I didn’t even know what vocal fry. When you showed what it was I realized that I’ve been doing that vocal fry crackling sound since I was kid just for fun. Simply put some chest voice in it and within seconds of this video I was singing really low. Thanks you so much!!
Awesome video! Good to hear this is going forward. Awesome job on your music as well! Keep it up, man!
PS subharmonics is now commonly used in beat boxing
#codfish
omg!! I just heard about this technique for the first time like half an hour ago and I am actually starting to do it! So cool!!! great video
I can't get lower than C3. Well I mean I am a girl. Will practice though
I hope u realize the world record lowest note for a female is a C2
@@josephthomas8936 whoops I meant C3
Joseph Thomas Who??
Your awesome!
My range is very small, but one day i hope to get there. 🤯🎉
Fīrekey Draws That is very low for a female. Nice!
kinda reminds me of Mongol throat singing. this is probably one part to what they do with the harmony
Kina
Beeing doing it for years unknowingly cause I thought its fun. Its quite easy. Wanted to learn it but it just turns out I have to learn how to sing/stay on notes 😂
ahah i have heard that before people accidentally doing it. and yes just practice w a tuner or piano🤠
You are absoultely No.1 at subharmonic. better than Bass2yang. because your sound is more natural.
Try holding a bit of breath in the lungs, idk why but it helped me hold the proper vibration
Thanks man, got it almost immediately! Might be because I've been playing around with fry since I was a kid.
Btw do you have any tips on throat singing? I recently learned khargyraa but I have no idea how to do sygyt or khoomei.
I swear this has to be Avi Kaplans Brother😂😂😂😂
David Larson is the man!
So is it basically a difference tone? I know a similar thing occurs when playing guitar. I noticed that when playing a D chord, if I didn't mute the A string, I would hear the Low D2 as though I was playing in drop D. When I researched it, it is due to the difference between the frequencies of A3 and the D3 (220 and 146.8) is 73.2 which is approximately a D2 (73.42).
Managed to make it work with first time while watching video, but it will probably take forever to be able to shift it whenever i want and actually keep going. It seems like it works for now on one note and one note only and for about 3-4sec. But its cool im really happy i finally managed to do something cool with my voice. Thanks for tutorial man!
Great tutorial! My dad teaches at Berklee as well
Here's a question to you though, have you managed to work out how to slide from chest to sub and back again smoothly? I know that's real tricky to mask that vocal flip going head to falsetto. Trying it down there is even more difficult, so have you managed to work it out?
Literally run it with scales. Know your bottom full voice note, and keep practicing about a fifth above that then flip when you hit the note below it. Vocally you’re jumping up the octave, but the fry makes it sound like your continuing the scale on that octave. I could record an example for you if you’d like.
David Zapp that would be helpful because im trying to do the same thing
Just simply an awesome tutorial. Thank you and God bless you.
This is the video that finally explained it in a way I understood thank yoi
I’m having issues with higher notes (within subharmonics), I would like a C2 in subharmonics but that’s kind of high since that is in my actual range but I would like to make the transition smoother but the high ones are just giving me a little trouble
I'm a female low tier mezzo. What am I doing. I like ingressive phonation (throat singing). THAT gets my voice deep.
Oh goddamn I got it once and I’m so hyped right now
Imagine doing the Hale theme with that base in a vary echoing space
no need to imagine…: th-cam.com/video/hXBTbtJ7kvc/w-d-xo.html
Oh! I thought I searched your channel for this but apparently not! thank you for giving me the link here anyway, David
“Your not gonna learn this over night” Me realizing it’s 3am and I should go to bed
Hey dude when I’m trying to do the vocal fry combined with the note, I hit a major seventh below. It’s really weird. For example when I sing normally I can sing an A2 but when I add the vocal fry it goes to Bb1 any tips?
My vocal range is F2 G6
Try to lower your larynx
God damn... you're a genius. It's working for me. So from now I just have to practice. It's gonna be hard, it will definitely require time for me but from now I see light at the end of the tunnel. Thank you very much 💪😘👍
please share w the squad, you got this!👊🖤
@@DavidKahnSings so for me it definitely requires a lot of practice but when I do it like shown my vocals chords start kinda like rumbling on their own. It's a specific feeling in your vocal chords. From there I try to slowly level up or down the notes. It's hard but not impossible. Once you figured out how it works and how to do, the rest is just practice in consistency.
@@bonaparte4832 exactly👌
Hello, David! I have a question, how do you feel your resonance in the chest area when singing subharmonic? Is it strong as in chest voice or is it only in your trachea as in fry register? Or somewhere in between. Thank you.
Hello i'm from indonesian .. I subscribe this when i search the turtorial sing with low notes ... You are so good
Came from Indicator's video to learn Subharmonic bass
Awesome! Can you improve the thickness of the high range (C4-C5) using this technique?
Do you know which adduction mechanism brings the arytenoid cartilages together to create fry/subharmonic creaking? I wonder if it's the LCA, IA, TA or a certain combination of those. If you have read any studies about this, please let me know. Thanks! Great video :)
Thank you, I’m 15 and I just performed a sub harmonic note
Why are davids such a good bass
I figured it out in 2 days . and I can go so low its insane.
I can do throat singing and polyphonic but this is the one spot I have trouble in. And I practice alottttt
Wow, full RESPECT man!! ur subharmonic singing(SHS) resonates so strongly, i would literally die if i listen to u in real person. Actually i've been practicing SHS for almost half year and I just reach the stage where I can project B1-G1 without popping up to B2-G2, for notes higher than that, the upper octave becomes louder thus not 'pure low' anymore; for notes lower, my SHS kinda collapses to vocal fry which isn't useful imo. Another problem I encountered is that I can hardly SHS when my voice is fully warmed up or even a bit overdrived (eg: at the end of the day, after singing for a long time or just finished eating hot spicy food etc.), like the whole register is gone, i slip right into vocal fry when i try to SHS. btw i define myself as a baritone of age 23, with lowest chest voice of D2 (B1 when just get out of bed). Do u have any ideas on 1. extend range; 2.amplify resonance; 3. keep SHS register? Plz help me out. THX a lot!!
Hi
I need some help, I seem to be able to do it really well but only in the evening any tips to do it in the morning?
Vocal warmups.
I’m here for beans wtf
Do you be able to slide from high of the natural voice to lowest notes of the subharmonics and vice versa? How do you think it's possible?
I’m so frustrated... I can’t figure out how to hit this register
Thank you so much! Have been waiting for a good time lol.
I tried to add vocal fry into a B3 note (in falsetto), and at a balanced point, I can hear the original B3 in falsetto as well as an extra B2 note at the same time.
Does it share the similar concepts with subharmonic ?
Is it advised to be more familiar with vocal fry before you try subharmonics?
All that biology and the instruction is "give it a shot". Lol
isn’t the point of a tutorial to try it?🤔 lol
I find it funny that I'm am a very high soprano watching as if there's ever gonna be a song I'm going to sing that I need this lmao