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10 Genius Decisions By Star Trek Captains

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ส.ค. 2024
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  • @brianjlevine
    @brianjlevine 4 ปีที่แล้ว +138

    As for Picard, his best moment is easily the end of Darmok, where in the face of Riker getting the ship nearly destroyed (yet again), Picard waltzes onto the bridge, takes charge and in the space of a few moments gets the Tamarians to stand down.

    • @willywill3570
      @willywill3570 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      that was such a good episode. and i agree, brilliant

    • @CountArtha
      @CountArtha 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Riker's incompetence in that episode is its one real weakness.

    • @kurtbader9711
      @kurtbader9711 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah, Riker and his spaceballs. What does the other commander say? Something like, "Dathon and Picard at El-adril." A new metaphor in their language and a basis for communication. That's an example of why STTNG is the best, most thoughtful show ever to grace a television screen. Then there's Chuck.

    • @markuspfeifer8473
      @markuspfeifer8473 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Picard‘s best moment is when he names the Grizellas as mediators with the Sheliak

    • @evanbelisle8464
      @evanbelisle8464 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That episode pissed me off. How the hell did that species get off the ground? How did they build Star ships with just metaphors.

  • @michaeljordan9879
    @michaeljordan9879 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Picard convincing the Klingon HC to give him a cloaked ship with only his “gratitude” in exchange was brilliant, especially when he told them if he didn’t get the ship, he would get from Garwon’s enemies - and then they would have his “gratitude”.

  • @seantwigg
    @seantwigg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +185

    No In The Pale Of Moonlight? Without the life of one Romulan senator, one criminal and the self-respect of one Starfleet officer, the Alpha and Beta quadrants could have been lost

    • @djkomic
      @djkomic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      AGREED! A decision that swung the war into the Federations favor. A war they had a good chance of losing if it weren't for Sisko's decision

    • @lovehawks2814
      @lovehawks2814 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      That may have been true had it been at all his plot and mechanation. In reality, Garak played Captain Sisko like a fiddle the entire time to bring about a result that he wanted. Had they followed the plan precisely like Sisko wanted, the Romulans would likely have been convinced to join the Dominion. Garak supplied not only the data rod, but the programmer, and the cover for all the inconsistencies that he knew would inevitably show up due to his previous experience with them.

    • @jamestalbot4900
      @jamestalbot4900 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I don’t know about you, but I’d call that a bargain.

    • @GregRohr
      @GregRohr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@lovehawks2814 And that's why I'd rather have the Borg after me than Elim Garak.
      At least you'll see the Borg coming.

    • @jimitalent9239
      @jimitalent9239 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That wasn't really Sisko's decision though, he was running an entirely different op with the same basic goal, he was just being manipulated into following Garak's plan, as a matter of fact the fake plan was also Garak's plan.

  • @opiewinston443
    @opiewinston443 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Captain Garrett found her own solution to the Kobiyashi Maru scenario.

  • @mattevans4377
    @mattevans4377 4 ปีที่แล้ว +118

    Thank you for including a moment from Captain Archer. It's nice to see Star Trek: Enterprise not be thrown under a bus for once.

    • @kurtbader9711
      @kurtbader9711 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Can't believe they canned that show so quickly. All episodes were well done and fun.

    • @marcelsgroot
      @marcelsgroot ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kurtbader9711 Yes I enjoyed watching them as well

    • @adamsands4562
      @adamsands4562 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@kurtbader9711 Would love to have seen season 5, the refitted Enterprise, Romulan war. The series doesn't deserve the slating it gets.

    • @grumpus_hominidae
      @grumpus_hominidae ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kurtbader9711 agreed! Enterprise was my introduction to the Trek Universe. I have it downloaded on my phone, along with Voyager and DS9.

  • @danielt.8573
    @danielt.8573 4 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    Star Trek III. Kirk destroys the wounded Enterprise.
    "You transformed death into a fighting chance." - Leonard "Bones" McCoy

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      That was such a deep moment. The ship we learned to love going down in flames. I can only imagine how hard the decision must've been.

    • @atomcraft4067
      @atomcraft4067 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Also Kirk stealing The Enterprise is up there.

    • @warreng675
      @warreng675 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Number 1

  • @ryanmiller6605
    @ryanmiller6605 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Some of these are questionable, BUT, Captain Garrett at #1 is spot on.

  • @krisculin9679
    @krisculin9679 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    i think on this list is Janeway's decision to make a temporary treaty with the Borg. The result was Seven of Nine's release and an addition to the crew. it also provided Janeway the start of the path as the "knower of all" about the Borg (IMHO, at least). In the finale, the future Janeway is highly regarded as the expert on the Borg Collective.

  • @reidtyndall4953
    @reidtyndall4953 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    There are much better examples in Star Trek lore:
    May This Be Your Last Battlefield - Kirk activates the Enterprise self destruct sequence to stop rival aliens from hijacking his ship.
    The Corbomite Maneuver - Kirk bluffs an alien into thinking that attacking the Enterprise would ultimately destroy him.
    Counterpoint - Janeway outsmarts the Inspector and manages to free a group of telepaths.
    Favor the Bold - Sisko convinces the Prophets to eradicate the en bound Dominion ships and retakes DS9.
    Wrath of Khan - Kirk and Spock use an encoded transmission to fool Khan into thinking the Enterprise would be disabled for days.
    Undiscovered Country - Kirk tricks Lt. Valeris into thinking the assassins were alive to expose herself and reveal her co-conspirators.
    Year of Hell - Janeway realizes at the last minute that destroying the Krenum weapon ship would restore history.
    The Defector - Thinking ahead, Picard has a squadron of cloaked Klingon Bird of Preys escort the Enterprise D into the Neutral Zone to investigate Romulan incursions. Picard signals them to de-cloak after they're ambush by the Romulans.
    The Best of Both Worlds - Captain Riker uses an unorthodox strategy to out maneuver the Borg and kidnap Locutus.
    Relics - (Just for fun) Captain Scott kept himself alive in a transporter buffer for over 80 years after his ship crashed into the Dyson Sphere.

    • @andylintott9339
      @andylintott9339 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ST:VI : Sulu "doesn't know" the status of Enterprise, or disposition of her personnel. Enterprise is then free to foil assassination plot, and maintain balance of power across two whole quadrants

    • @andylintott9339
      @andylintott9339 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      "I have been, and always shall be... Your Friend.
      I don't need to cite this. You know.

  • @revparravager3184
    @revparravager3184 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    One minor teensy addition I would have made to the entry for Captain Garrett was that ultimately through her sacrifice she was able to show The Klingon Empire that, perhaps for the first time, that The Federation was made up of Warriors who understood the need for sacrifice. I say this for a couple of reasons:
    Throughout the documented timeline of events in the conflict between the Klingons and The Federation whether it was Kirk, or an alternate-timeline Picard, or a Mirror Universe Rebellion at Terok-Nor against their oppressors or a host of other situations there were ample opportunities in which Klingons got to face Terrans as opponents on the field of battle. They even had a number of instances in which various opponents even earned a begrudging respect of the Klingons as formidable warriors. However, there was always this sort of 'reticence' to fully commit to the concept of blatant, unmitigated adherence to self-sacrifice on the field of battle.
    That is NOT to say that Klingons never saw Terrans die in combat or to show the courage to face death with Honor, that certainly occurred abundantly. I am saying that with Captain Garrett I believe it was the first time they really got to see the mettle of StarFleet in what really, if you think about it, was a true Kobayashi Maru scenario. Why do I mention the Kobayashi Maru (heh, and considering you brought up Kirk's own issues with it)? I mention this because, unlike the Federation, to the Klingons the Kobayashi Maru Scenario is NOT a "Lose/Lose". It's a "Win/Win" and THAT is what I feel was lacking in the fundamental understanding between the Federation and The Klingon Empire.
    To the Klingons, the concept of a "wasted death" in glorious combat was never a question, so therefore there is no idea of a "Lose" merely in the face of inevitable defeat, in fact its one of their highest moments of Honor to go into battle knowing you will lose but for the sake of your own Honor and your Warrior's Spirit. In viewing, the Federation they would likely have seen ample evidence of a captain or crew no doubt be willing to fight to the death but ultimately with the intent to win some goal even during a rout. While this is certainly honorable to the Klingon Code that is not the Core of their being. I believe in ample situations and lines of evidence the Klingons demonstrated an even higher respect for those demonstrations of honor in which Death was certain, no measurable victory was possible and defeat was inevitable and yet they would go to Sto-vo-kor with a song in their hearts because they chose to die as they lived, as warriors.
    Captain Garrett KNEW (even before the whole being sucked into an alternate timeline thing gave her even greater insight) that putting herself between the defenseless Klingons and the barbaric Romulans was going to get her killed but she simply couldnt watch it and write a damn report to send back to Starfleet. She saw that her death and the death of her crew was inevitable and the chance that they could save the colony was impossible(she wasnt even thinking about the longterm consequences, thats where the whole alternate timeline in which she got to see The Bigger Picture comes in). She HAD to fight them regardless and she knew going into it they would die but that was the pivotal moment, the acceptance of Death on the terms of a warrior with no hope of any victory other than holding true to one's Honor.
    THAT is what struck to the Heart of the Klingon Empire, that one of their enemies could be so like themselves when up till then they may have been seen as enemies, worthy of respect surely, but that they still remained "alien" to them. Through her sacrifice to defend an enemy, in a hopeless battle with only the promise of Death to be had she went into the fires of battle and showed that we Terrans were capable of understanding what it meant to be Klingons.

  • @cybertenchi82
    @cybertenchi82 4 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    Point of order, it's the Yamato, not the Yamamoto.
    As you were.

    • @philschuler9674
      @philschuler9674 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are you sure?

    • @1993bahamut
      @1993bahamut 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Get the mo out 😂😂😂

    • @robertmandl9326
      @robertmandl9326 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was about to point this out too. The USS Yamato is repeatedly mentioned and shown up until its demise thanks to one Iconian program upload. Yamamoto however was indeed the japanese Admiral in command for the Pearl Habor attack, among many other commands he had - including, as gar as I know, a short time on both Yamato and Musashi.

    • @namogel67
      @namogel67 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Space Battleship Yamato was also in Star Blazers. Even the Japanese didn't favour Yamamoto :)

    • @Deevo037
      @Deevo037 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But she didn't have a wave motion gun.

  • @pmtthedancer
    @pmtthedancer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    Riker’s plan to get Picard, ending the Borg threat in that moment.

    • @davidporter9553
      @davidporter9553 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I'm surprised that's not on the list

    • @lindasmith6316
      @lindasmith6316 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@davidporter9553 Me,too!

    • @countluke2334
      @countluke2334 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@davidporter9553 Simple. The title says "10 Genius Decisions By Star Trek Captains" and not "10 Genius Decisions By Star Trek Characters Who Turned Down Promotion To Captain Endless Times And Only Finally Gets Promoted To Captain Some 15 Years Later In The Very Last Scene Of His Final Star Trek Movie"

    • @davidporter9553
      @davidporter9553 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@countluke2334 But he was Captain when he made that decision, so it should count.

    • @54raynor
      @54raynor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Definitely should have been on the list, especially since #1 was as much the decision of Helmsman Castillo as it was Captain Garrett.

  • @DoctorX17
    @DoctorX17 4 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    I think Janeway's decision to combine the crew was the only viable one -- and despite the Maquis disdain for Starfleet, _everybody_ wanted to get home. I don't think it would have gone well if the Maquis tried taking over the ship, either -- if Janeway had just locked them all in the brig, there wouldn't have been much a crew to run the ship. If the Maquis tried to mutiny and failed, then both sides would have probably taken casualties, the Starfleet crew would have been even worse off, and the Maquis would be stuck in the brig anyway. If the Maquis _did_ successfully take over the ship, they would still be low on hands, especially if they killed the remaining Starfleet crew or abandoned them on a planet. The Maquis might have traded tech and such to improve their odds of getting home, and used tactics that Janeway would never allowed, but I don't think they would have done as well as the combined crew did.

    • @theindianlad393
      @theindianlad393 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      There's only one way..
      The JANEWAY

    • @theindianlad393
      @theindianlad393 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I agree..
      But they worked suprisingly well..
      I mean if Janeway asked me I would join..
      Regardless of the job..

    • @deniseherud
      @deniseherud 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      DoctorX17 She knew nobody would dare come between her and her coffee😂 even the Maquis knew that. She’ll jettison ur azz into space b4 that first cup if u even look at her funny.😂

    • @theindianlad393
      @theindianlad393 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@deniseherud coffee x Janeway..
      The ultimate bond

    • @theindianlad393
      @theindianlad393 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Darth Wheezius I'm really surprise that nobody drinks beer

  • @anothercleverusername992
    @anothercleverusername992 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    _"The satisfyingly round shape, of James T. Kirk."_
    Fucking great line.

  • @cerritouruguay4836
    @cerritouruguay4836 4 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    Good job, just as a note: The sister ship is the USS Yamato, not the USS Yamamoto.

    • @MHLegacy
      @MHLegacy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I was going to mention that as well. Yamamoto was the famous Japanese Admiral in World War II who had studied in the U.S. some years prior to the war, while the Yamato was there biggest battleship (which Yamamoto used as his flagship during the Battle of Midway). The names are similar so people easily get mixed up. To me, maybe it's like the word "banana," where you might accidentally put in too many "na's" (or "ma's/mo's") in this case.

    • @ScientistCat
      @ScientistCat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      USS Yamamomamomoto
      ...Ya mommy?

  • @Samuel034
    @Samuel034 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Q specifically provokes Picard because it’s a test, His entire arc is about humanity evolving past their baser violent tendencies. He literally held Humanity on trial with Picard as our representative for the entire TNG series.
    He got his cheap laugh out of Sisko and then went on his merry way because Sisko had nothing more to offer.

    • @kevinmencer3782
      @kevinmencer3782 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Except Q threw the first punch. Everything Sisko did after that was self defense.

    • @izzonj
      @izzonj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Picard represented the human race in his trial and Sisko represented Star Trek fans by punching Q

    • @studentdrake
      @studentdrake 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Exactly, Sisco was to emotional and simple minded.
      He was the first captain to command a battle ship for starfleet. The dominion war just proved humanity is still flawed and we have a long ways to go still.

  • @Meoknet
    @Meoknet 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    "Janeway making an alliance with the Borg" and "Janeway deciding to be assimilated by the Borg" should have been on this list. Those were some crazy but effective solutions. And if Picard setting the auto-destruct made the list, Janeway destroyed or started to destroy Voyager on soooo many occasions. But Sisko punching Q was brilliant apparently.

    • @batgurrl
      @batgurrl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      She does not get the credit she deserves.

    • @deniseherud
      @deniseherud 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      If “Janeway set the auto destruct sequence” were a drinking game, I’d have died from alcohol poisoning.😂😂😂 “Goddamn it we’re out of coffee! Computer set auto destruct for 30 seconds...”😂

    • @Josh-ut4wv
      @Josh-ut4wv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@deniseherud she does it because she doesn't want that coffee substitute

  • @jolan_tru
    @jolan_tru 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Sisko's gripe with Eddington was personal. Ben says so himself "he's just a man... and he BEAT ME!"
    Dude be pissed-off.
    Willingness to bend the rules kept getting more significant for Sisko, ultimately culminating in his decision to bring a neutral nation into a costly war using deceit, trickery, theft and murder.
    He can live with it though.
    Man, I love DS9 and Sisko is definitely GOAT.

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      "So… I lied. I cheated. I bribed men to cover up the crimes of other men. I am an accessory to murder. But most damning of all… I think I can live with it… And if I had to do it all over again… I would. Garak was right about one thing - a guilty conscience is a small price to pay for the safety of the Alpha Quadrant. So I will learn to live with it…Because I can live with it…I can live with it."

    • @darthmaul3090
      @darthmaul3090 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nah
      Best captain is Kirk

    • @jolan_tru
      @jolan_tru 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@darthmaul3090
      Pfft, what do you know? You're from Star Wars.

    • @darthmaul3090
      @darthmaul3090 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jolan_tru All sisko did is punch Q
      Nothing else...

    • @jolan_tru
      @jolan_tru 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@darthmaul3090
      Well, I mean, he also had to...
      * deep breath *
      Help stabilise a planet on the brink of civil war,
      Disrupt repeated Cardassian covert attempts to drive the Federation from the region and re-conquer Bajor,
      Balance being Bajoran Jesus (Bajesus?!) With his own ethics and obligations to the Prime Directive,
      Maintain peace in a region teetering on the brink of war,
      Stop the Maquis from sparking a wider conflict,
      Plan the groundwork for an armed response to a burgeoning but largely inscrutable threat from the Gamma Quadrant,
      Defend the stability of the already precarious region when the Klingons started to throw rocks,
      Rebuild old alliances in the face of a common enemy,
      Plan a defence and then a counter-offensive against a superior foe,
      Help to maintain a front line in a devastating war,
      Lead an invasion against a powerful enemy,
      Defeat Bajoran Satan...
      ...
      Also, he punched Q.
      (I do love that the week after his encounter with Sisko, to chill out, Q had to go meddle with Picard about his artificial heart 😂)

  • @zulu2049
    @zulu2049 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Many people often forget that Chakotay & Torres both were in academy and Chakotay was a CDR in starfleet before joining the Maquis.

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I so want to see him getting back into Starfleet after the end of VOY. He had experience beforehand and showed that he can be a reliable officer.
      Sure, all the marquis would have to stand trial after the return, but all they did during those years should be weighted in favor of them.
      So him joining back into Starfleet proper, mabye after some hearings and tests isn't too far off.

    • @zulu2049
      @zulu2049 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@HappyBeezerStudios That`s cool, I`m writing a short story about that. After the Dominion war the Alpha quadrant`s fleets are depleted greatly. In a combined effort to build a new Starship designed by Tom & Ba`Lana to investigate what happened to the Borg who have been eliminated by a new threat to the Alpha quadrant. Long story short, Commanded by Chakotay, tactical observer 7 of 9, a Romulan chief engineer "with a Romulan cloaking device", Navigation/con Ltjg Nog, a klingon 1st officer, an Enduran security chief and a holographic DR Bashire who`s bedside manor has been mocked up so much while he`s making you comfortable, you might bleed to death. For occasional comedic relief. Almost forgot to mention the USS Constitution is very well equipped in Laded Armor & midi-phasic shielding "from STNG" to hide in a stars corona. Klingon disrupters, of course starfleet issue photon torpedo`s.

  • @lovehawks2814
    @lovehawks2814 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    What? No love for Kirk's destruction of the war computer that calculates and orders the deaths of civilians on two worlds warring for 500 years? I'd say crashing what was essentially a high stakes game of StarCraft in order to bring the threat of real war between two civilizations unprepared or willing to go to such lengths was a brilliant gamble.

    • @token1371
      @token1371 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Tbh, like Spock, I was more impressed with Kirk's DAZZLING display of logic against Nomad. Or his focused anger on the deadly gas, warp speed cloud in Obsession.

    • @lovehawks2814
      @lovehawks2814 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@token1371 Norman was impressive, but also proved that his programming was deficient. The obvious answer to the Kirk-Mudd conundrum was that Kirk was lying with his initial statement that Mudd only lies. He only mostly lies. :p As far as Kirk's response in Obsession, it was more Ahab than Walter Raleigh. He was an emotional wreck for most of it and responded with a mixture of fear, anger, self loathing, and vengeance. Not one of his best moments, but definitely one of his most human. Frankly, I would put up both of his instances of the "corbomite maneuver." The first time was a brilliant gambit versus the Fesivius, and the second was a quick witted stroke of intelligence manipulation. Frankly, a list of brilliant Kirk moves could be made with plenty of room for debate.

    • @token1371
      @token1371 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lovehawks2814 I meant Nomad the computer that sterilized anything not perfect. Your analysis of Mudd's Norman was spot on. In Obsession, I'll only agree with you on Kirk's vengeance. Imo, it wasn't Ahab. In Moby Dick, the whale was the hunted. In Obsession, the humans (red corpuscles) were the hunted. Imo, Kirk's reaction was stubborn. He regretted not acting quick which caused his crew to die. But, I liked your analogy. The Corbomite Maneuver explanation was on point but the end was more like poker. The Enterprise was going to be destroyed by a superior ship, and Kirk had zero options, but lucky. Great debate.

    • @brianjlevine
      @brianjlevine 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'd put the Corbomite Maneuver slightly higher, but yeah, I love how he brought peace to two worlds by forcing the threat of real war upon them.

    • @lovehawks2814
      @lovehawks2814 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@token1371 Now I see where I misread. Yes, the level of logical trickery Kirk used against Nomad was impressive. As for the Corbomite Maneuver being like poker, yes it was. He even said as much in the episode. Specifically that they were approaching the problem like it was chess up to that point, but that inspiration from poker. More specifically the more skill based aspect of poker. While it is still an element of chance, the bluff is more about reading an adversary and playing their fears and doubts against them. In the case of the Fesivius, Kirk bet on Balok having the same sense of self preservation as most lifeforms. In that respect, it is equal measures skill and gamble.

  • @grf73tube
    @grf73tube 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    So, punching Q in the face is better than defeating him with well thought and articulated arguments? Remember when Picard lectured Q about his supposedly superior morality, or when he discovered Q’s real fears that humanity could one day become even more powerful than Q. That really pissed him off. That´s, my friend, is how you deal with an omnipotent being.

    • @colinp2238
      @colinp2238 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rippng off Indiana Jones. (the punch scene)

    • @KevalPrajapatiSS
      @KevalPrajapatiSS 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      But Q never returned after Sisko punched him

    • @Blueskybuffalo
      @Blueskybuffalo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      What argument should Sisko have made with Q repeatedly jabbing Sisko in the face? Sisko tried to discuss things but Q left him few options.

    • @batgurrl
      @batgurrl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Not a captain but a great Q moment was when he lost his powers and Guinan stabbed him with a fork

    • @robsmith6295
      @robsmith6295 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Nah, then the omnipotent being just comes back to pester you in a few months. Punch him in the mouth and he doesn't come back. Permanent solutions are better.

  • @LapisAndroid17ParkRanger
    @LapisAndroid17ParkRanger 4 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS!

    • @catfishcave379
      @catfishcave379 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      2+2=4

    • @matthewluecke3704
      @matthewluecke3704 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me and another Trek fan did this episode as a Duo interpretation for competitive speech at the college level. Never advanced to a final round, but we had fun. (I was the Cardassian.)

    • @Herswasthesky09
      @Herswasthesky09 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Best Captain? No it's certainly not Sisko!

  • @CBXSTACY
    @CBXSTACY 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Finding out Sisko was a more popular Captain than I originally thought is such a nice surprise. I liked TNG but DS9 made me love Star Trek

    • @chaddon7685
      @chaddon7685 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      DS9 is awesome... And my main Sisko is definitely my number 2... But I love me some Picard!

  • @dawnmcauley6411
    @dawnmcauley6411 4 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    "Let history never forget the name Enterprise." Smartest decision? Debatable. Most influential? Indisputably.

    • @robertballasty395
      @robertballasty395 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Federation and Klingons might have had an uneasy relationship in Garrett's time, but they also had a treaty. It wasn't out of the blue to take a side, it was responding to their ally.

    • @kurtbader9711
      @kurtbader9711 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He knew they were finished, the only hope was in the past.

  • @macbuff81
    @macbuff81 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The Picard scene is also a throwback to Orwell's "1984" when he gets asked how many lights he sees

  • @storyteller5931
    @storyteller5931 4 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    People keep praising Sisko as the best Captain because he once punched Q. Big deal. Long before that, Kirk did bitch slapped Trelane, twice.

    • @martinhanke1670
      @martinhanke1670 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      yes, he treated him like the child he was acting like. put him on a time out. great episode.

    • @rcraftee1
      @rcraftee1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Just watch his video about why Sisko is the best Captain...you will probably be convinced.

    • @lordhumungus3907
      @lordhumungus3907 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He also saved Earth and the entire Alpha Quadrant from the Dominion

    • @rickjohnston1767
      @rickjohnston1767 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes, Kirk was the "shat," but Sisko also led Federation forces throughout the Dominion War! Let's not forget that!

    • @Deevo037
      @Deevo037 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rickjohnston1767 Whale probe. Nuff said.

  • @robertt9342
    @robertt9342 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Janeway didn't hand over chief engineering to the Maquis. The chief engineer was a federation officer until being killed later on, and Maquis Torres, who was already integrated into the crew was selected afterwards.

    • @alanbear6505
      @alanbear6505 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Not to mention that Torres did attend Starfleet Academy but dropped out before graduation. It's not like she had no clue about how Starfleet runs a ship.

    • @aethertech
      @aethertech 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alanbear6505 Plus, the number of Maquis that where 'integrated' was a very small number, not nearly enough to mutiny or even run Voyager themselves. They needed the Starfleet officers, and Janeway knew it. Likewise, she added some considerable talent to her ship in doing so. One or two small problems aside.

  • @hawaiianshirts4715
    @hawaiianshirts4715 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "Without even having to punch it in the face." That's brilliant writing.

  • @Chuck_Hooks
    @Chuck_Hooks 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Kirk: Not chess, Mr. Spock--poker.

    • @ronpetersen2317
      @ronpetersen2317 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Agreed. That should definitely be on the list.

    • @paulcochran1721
      @paulcochran1721 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Corbomite was the first thing I thought of. Not a mention of it..

    • @Chuck_Hooks
      @Chuck_Hooks 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@paulcochran1721 Same.This is such an iconic moment where an impossible situation gets flipped on its head with a genius Kirk reframe from a chess metaphor to a poker metaphor.
      In the chess frame of mind, the game is over--checkmate--as Spock says. But in Kirk's brilliant reframe to poker, then BLUFF becomes more powerful than warp engines and phasers, so long as Kirk can skillfully sell the bluff (Kirk makes up the explosive Corbomite device on the fly) and keep his nerve throughout.
      Genius commander thinking and move under insane pressure.

    • @martinhanke1670
      @martinhanke1670 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      only Kirk, could pull this off, and stay cool while doing it. That's why, he's the best captain. 🎤 drop.

    • @Chuck_Hooks
      @Chuck_Hooks 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@martinhanke1670 Exactly. Adding even more badassness to Kirk, is the fact that Spock had given up. According to Spock the game was over--they were checkmated. Spock's brilliant logic was itself was checkmated.
      So it is Kirk alone who is left to come up with the genius solution to save his ship with seconds to go before destruction. And Kirk delivers with typical flair and cunning. Coming up with the Corbomite bluff making it up brilliantly as he went along under the most intense pressure possible.

  • @johnlloyddy7016
    @johnlloyddy7016 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm a Janeway fan. It's probably because I grew up reading "Swiss Family Robinson" and "Robinson Crusoe" and love imagining how to survive while stranded in a remote island. "The Voyager" came decades before the first survivor reality shows were shown on TV and the crews' adventures to try to survive and get back home resonated with me.

    • @GabePuratekuta
      @GabePuratekuta 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What does "The Voyager" have to do with Star Trek: Voyager?

  • @TerzaGuardia
    @TerzaGuardia 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I would be honored to serve under Picard, but I would be stoked to serve under Sisko.

    • @ComicBookGuy420
      @ComicBookGuy420 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I would be overjoyed to serve under Picard or Sisko
      But...
      It...
      Would...
      Be...
      An...
      Absolute...
      Honour...
      To...
      Serve...
      Under...
      Kirk
      (Started watching Star Trek at Undiscovered Country)

    • @aeriok8486
      @aeriok8486 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I’m jealous of O’Brien, sure in DS9 he was the shows punching bag, but he served under both Sisko’s and Picard

    • @amylaneio
      @amylaneio 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Aeriok so did Worf.

    • @ComicBookGuy420
      @ComicBookGuy420 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Darth Revan I enjoyed the fact that he got a chance to shine here and there in DS9, his Bromomance with Bashir was great

  • @ascii7085
    @ascii7085 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    0:13 remembers the time Rom helped come up with cloaked self replicating mines.

  • @stephenparallox
    @stephenparallox 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    So one liners:
    1:26 Kirk: "I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am"
    3:34 Foreshadowing much? (knocks Q into submission)
    6:14 Come on everyone together: "THERE ARE 4 LIGHTS!"
    7:46 Janeway: "How would you like a SWEEET internship on the USS Voyager!"

  • @theindianlad393
    @theindianlad393 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Literally most of the decisions made by Katherine Janeway..
    I mean she had it the toughest..

    • @swishfish8858
      @swishfish8858 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Wh-nuh nuh nuh. Janeway was an idiot. Sorry. There was an extremely simple way to both destroy the Caretaker AND get home safely, but she was too dense to see or use it. Her ineptitude stranded her crew in the first bloody place.

    • @theindianlad393
      @theindianlad393 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@swishfish8858 morally she be top...
      Although I don't agree with all her views..
      I mean she defeated the Borg one too many times..
      Hence they became less threatening..
      In the future

    • @deniseherud
      @deniseherud 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Swish Fish if u say ‘bajoran wormhole’ I’ll jettison you into space 😡😂 For the last time the Gamma quadrant is no the hell where near the Delta quadrant. That stupid wormhole goes only from DS9 to Dominion space...there’s no off-ramp for Delta quadrant or Unimatrix or anywhere else. 😂

    • @theindianlad393
      @theindianlad393 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@deniseherud .. The Borg and the dominion shoulda fought....
      That would have been orgasmic

    • @deniseherud
      @deniseherud 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      CHANNA X yes, the Borg could use more drones🔥😂 jk If the Borg assimilated those poloron based weapons, they would have destroyed all of the Alpha quadrant or borgified literally everything

  • @timothyyoung8138
    @timothyyoung8138 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I always loved when janeway flew voyager between the binary pulsars to get rid of the aliens in "scientific method" I think is the episode.

  • @Ferretic
    @Ferretic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've always believed that the most important part of the Enterprise-C's sacrifice at Narendra III was the "sacrifice" part. It may still have earned some respect and gratitude from the Klingons if they'd survived, but Klingon honor simply would not allow them to disrespect the memories of those who fell in battle fighting an immensely superior foe to try to save Klingon lives. I headcanon that the Enterprise-C's crew are among the few non-Klingons to enter Sto-Vo-Kor.

    • @GabePuratekuta
      @GabePuratekuta 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Darth Revan Also, Gre'thor's too dark.

  • @SuperTimminator
    @SuperTimminator 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Janeway should of had so many more. Janeway siding with the borg? Janeway blows up the krenim ship, with everyone else's shields down to hopefully alter time so year of hell didn't happen and all those species' restored. This has to be on the list, was such a gamble to take.

    • @batgurrl
      @batgurrl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Janeway was a badass. She had to be all alone with no federation backup.

    • @charlestownsend9280
      @charlestownsend9280 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How was janeway siding with the borg, the greatest threat of the federation, against the one species that are capable of defeating them and who could have been allies (but even if not it wouldn't be as bad as they could actually defeat them), genius? It was an idiotic idea, and that's not even taking into account that she know the truce would be broken the moment they weren't needed. The only genius thing about it was that they got seven to join the crew.

    • @o.c.kiddkidd5163
      @o.c.kiddkidd5163 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      She also has the WORST decision ever made by a Star Fleet Captain.
      SHE COULD HAVE USED TIME DELAY TORPEDOES TO BLOW UP THE ARRAY!
      Everyone could have been home, Harry Kim could have been promoted at some point, and Nick Locarno, sorry, Tom Paris could have returned to his prison sentence in paradise.

    • @charlestownsend9280
      @charlestownsend9280 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@o.c.kiddkidd5163 not to mention that the borg would have been wiped out because they wouldn't have been there to save them.

  • @karlsmith2570
    @karlsmith2570 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "Captain Pike shares his Starfleet Academy statics"
    Given the reasons why there were trust issues amongst the crewmembers of the Discovery in regards to who their next Captain was going to be, it made perfectly good sense for Pike to display his full record of his service from Starfleet Academy to the day he accepted the commission of commanding the Discovery, both the good and bad, in order to gain the crew's trust

  • @neolex001
    @neolex001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Corrections: Enterpise-D's sister ship is the Yamato not Yamamoto, and the Enterprise-C was lost at Narendra III not Neandra III

  • @kd5gsp
    @kd5gsp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    For your next installment, may I suggest 10 Genius Decisions By Star Trek First Officers. And perhaps later on, 10 Genius Decisions By Start Trek Chief Engineers.

    • @izzonj
      @izzonj 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Scotty's best moves was on TNG ( Relics, I believe,) when he scolds LaForge for giving an accurate time estimate to the captain. He said you should always inflate the time so went you finish early you'll look like a real hero.
      I follow that advice, lol

  • @dylanogg347
    @dylanogg347 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    "I don't believe in a no-win situation."

  • @thomashill6347
    @thomashill6347 4 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Ok that was interesting what was the 10 worst decision ever made by a captain? that is more interesting. Good job, Stay safe.

    • @andrewhawes3134
      @andrewhawes3134 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Not sure, but they would probably all be Janeway.

    • @Johnny-rx4hs
      @Johnny-rx4hs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Do they have to be current captains? Because Admiral Pressman from "The Pegasus" would be on that list. And if we are including non-Federation captains there are plenty more options to choose from.

    • @joemelton4747
      @joemelton4747 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It would all be from Janeway

    • @BenjiMan1701
      @BenjiMan1701 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Number one has to be by both Picard and Riker in 2 separate movies. Letting Troi take the helm XD

    • @dongadson1099
      @dongadson1099 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I like that concept already. Kirk and Janeway prob takes the pie for that one.

  • @Jamaicafunk
    @Jamaicafunk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Kirks "impeccable" logic convincing NOMAD of its imperfection should be on this list.

    • @kurtbader9711
      @kurtbader9711 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You've made a mistake therefore you are imperfect!! Carry out your prime function!!!

  • @thepainfulhand9363
    @thepainfulhand9363 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Actually, Kirk didn't 'cheat' the test. To cheat you would need to know the question that would be on the test or be able to acquire the answer during test. Since there was no correct solution to the kobayashi maru simulation, there would be no way to cheat to achieve the solution. By reprogramming the simulation he created his own version of the simulation, which, being the writer of the new simulation, he already knew the solution. It's not cheating when you write your own simulation, it's called creative thinking... LOL

    • @MrJackfaire
      @MrJackfaire 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Best solution I ever saw was a character using an obscure law about trial by combat. While they are locked into that ritual the civilian ship and Starfleet ship can't be fired upon. They snatch up the civilians and get the hell out of there with the Captain then either winning or dying saving everyone.

    • @danielgreenwood793
      @danielgreenwood793 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pretty sure changing the questions on an exam to ones you know is still considered cheating.

    • @kenbrown2808
      @kenbrown2808 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@danielgreenwood793 this.

    • @kurtbader9711
      @kurtbader9711 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm pretty sure reprogramming a test question would be considered cheating.

    • @kurtbader9711
      @kurtbader9711 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oops, somebody already said that. Sorry.

  • @jasonjimerson7046
    @jasonjimerson7046 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Q: "You punched me! Picard never punched me."
    Sisko: "I'm not Picard!"
    Yeah, Sisko is the best!

  • @maisiesummers42
    @maisiesummers42 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    How in the hell did Harriman ever achieve the rank of Captain? He's clearly incompetent. His indecision is not just a lack of experience - he's a captain, he should have at least 10 years of experience under his belt - he's actually unfit to lead.
    Edit: I looked it up. Apparently he had rich parents who bought him a commission and pulled some strings to get him a captaincy. The reason he was on the Ent B was because it was a rundown cruise and he was never going to be its permanent captain.
    According to Alan Ruck, Rick "Asshole" Berman told him: _"Yeah, we figured that Harriman came from a wealthy, politically connected family, and they sort of bought you this job as a stepping stone into a political career."_

    • @slimjim6439
      @slimjim6439 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I thought money doesn't exist in the 23-24th centuries on earth?

    • @slcRN1971
      @slcRN1971 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Slim Jim64 : you are correct about no money, but I thought the crew was paid in some sort of credits. When Uhura was going to buy a tribble, it was discussed how many credits it would cost (she got it for free). Maybe his parents used other kinds of persuasive ‘payments’. There are bitcoins even now.

    • @slimjim6439
      @slimjim6439 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@slcRN1971 isn't that kind of the same difference? It's a form a currency

    • @STNeish
      @STNeish 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't buy incompetent, and with no money in use on Earth, how would anyone be "rich?" No, I figure he's an engineer who rose to the rank of Captain, working in shipyards and taking ships out on their maiden voyages. He simply had no experience in the field.

    • @johnlloyddy7016
      @johnlloyddy7016 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Political favors can be considered a form of currency by those who deal with political influence.

  • @MattFergusonmwfergo
    @MattFergusonmwfergo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks Simon from Whatculture for calling out Sisko as the GOAT 🖖🏽

  • @antonybullock2240
    @antonybullock2240 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    And that it why Sisko is the don, the daddy, the god who walks amongst men.

  • @Kundalini12
    @Kundalini12 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "Sisko is the greatest captain" 🤣🤣🤣

  • @cupcakemedia1143
    @cupcakemedia1143 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In novels, Nog also beat the Kobayashi Maru test, TWICE! Once, when the commander of the enemy ship demanded his surrender, he said "Name your price!" He the proceeded to haggle with the commander until the simulation crashed. The other time, he set the self destruct of the ship after the enemy had boarded and closed in, but set the volume low enough so that only his Ferengi ears could pick it up. He'd also used a tractor beam to nudge the KM towards the correct side of the neutral zone. His ship blew up, taking all the enemy ships with it, and saving the KM in the process.

  • @BasicShapes
    @BasicShapes 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    #7...wait...so...Nagilum couldn't just remove the Enterprise's self-destruct mechanism?.......

  • @brianstraight9308
    @brianstraight9308 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Q wasn't omnipresent. That would me he was everywhere at once or at least aware of everywhere at once which he obviously wasn't since he didn't know what was going on outside of the areas he was actively in or observing.

  • @marshallbanana281
    @marshallbanana281 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good on you sir! While the skills, abilities, and legacies of the captains of the "hero ships" of Trek each speak for themselves, I think none speak quite as powerfully as Captain Rachel Garrett. Kirk and crew saved the Federation countless times, and by the sheer weight of his reputation, convinced their then enemy of the sincerity of the Federation's olive branch. Picard and crew, the reluctant yet resolute warrior and consummate diplomat, not only helped the Federation face down some of her greatest foes, but even managed to keep peace with her allies in time of a civil war. Sisko and crew were the galvanizing force that brought the great powers together to help protect all of us from the machinations of the Dominion. Janeway and crew brought to Starfleet a wealth of information they may have only ever seen a century from now, chief among it the tools to fight off the Borg.
    Captain Rachel Garrett, and the crew of her Enterprise, by making a single selfless sacrifice, shifted the balance of power this half of the galaxy for decades, and brought two mortal enemies not only to peaceful terms, but to an alliance of powers. God rest ye, Captain Garrett.

  • @chrislarkin560
    @chrislarkin560 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    "Ah yes, speaking of the Kardashians..." XD

    • @deniseherud
      @deniseherud 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Chris Larkin I caught that too😂😂😂

    • @MHLegacy
      @MHLegacy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I might not have caught that if I hadn't read your comment first, but laughed out loud when I got to that part! Subtle, brilliant, and hilarious; I think about the name similarity often. Whenever someone starts talking about the Kardashians, I'll throw in a comment about how I'm glad they aren't occupying Bajor anymore.

    • @herbderbler1585
      @herbderbler1585 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Omnipresent leatherskinned tyrants bent on galactic domination.

  • @BintyMcFrazzles
    @BintyMcFrazzles 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "We can argue forever for who's the best Star Trek captain, and why it's Benjamin Sisko."
    If Picard read Sisko's log about how he punched Q, and then Q never returned, would Picard be pretty pissed off? "Why didn't I think of that?.....Merde."

  • @Shanbo26
    @Shanbo26 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ah, #6 is a war crime. So much for Sisko being the best.

  • @friendofvinnie
    @friendofvinnie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    1 hour version please!

  • @schristy3637
    @schristy3637 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Number One to me is Star Trek: The Original Series. Kirk's Corbomite Maneuver.

    • @Chuck_Hooks
      @Chuck_Hooks 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes👍

    • @brianjlevine
      @brianjlevine 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Agreed. Followed closely by his plan to bring peace to Eminiar 7 by forcing a real interplanetary war on them.
      "Death. Disease. Destruction. That's what war is about, Anon. That's what makes it a thing to be avoided."

    • @martinhanke1670
      @martinhanke1670 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yes, both of these examples, prove why Kirk is the best.

    • @schristy3637
      @schristy3637 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@martinhanke1670 Well lets hope if it gets made(Hoping like Hell!!). Star Trek series Strange New Worlds. Is a cross between old and new,but let it have a more(to me) we are not all knowing and still make a mistakes feel. You know... Like Dr. McCoy left a communicator,but they never went back to get it???? I love that stuff!!! Remember there are no plot holes... Just thing we don't know. HA!HA!HA!

  • @paul1979uk2000
    @paul1979uk2000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Acting abilities and moral compass goes to Picard as the best captain by miles, that, and he got the big pay checks after Trek, Sisko couldn't act when he got angry lol.

  • @budderk1305
    @budderk1305 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love that we honor that 'non important captain' who never had her own show, by acknowledging she did the most badass thing to safe others

  • @VonWenk
    @VonWenk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really like "Where Silence Holds Lease." That and "Skin of Evil" are early episodes of TNG that I have sat and rewatched when I've stumbled across them.

  • @robertagu5533
    @robertagu5533 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That "terrorist" crew goes on to become some of her most loyal and best officers for Janeway. An her BEST moment and shoulda been here too I'd said when past AND future her in the series' end totally outsmart and own the Borg. Which is basically her and her crew's specialty at the end of the series

  • @slighter
    @slighter 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How can poisoning a planet be a genius move? He went with a "means justify the ends" logic and completely lost track of proportionality here. It might have worked, but at what price? Also, the sister ship is called YAMATO.

  • @tp7738
    @tp7738 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How about the Voyager episode where the ship is trapped in the Void? Janeway cooperates with many other ships that are trapped, in order to escape. Not an easy feat, since most of them were used to fighting each other!
    But sure, Sisko punching Q is somehow better than that! /s

  • @stevenpuderbaugh821
    @stevenpuderbaugh821 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Picard has made much more inspired decisions than a self destruct sequence. He can be crafty and devious when he needs to be.

  • @AshPrimeDCFC
    @AshPrimeDCFC 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    "You may not know John Harriman"
    Are we Trekkies here or what?!

    • @christophersummers1939
      @christophersummers1939 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i'm surprised adam "yamamoto" clery remembered

    • @MHLegacy
      @MHLegacy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I've always thought that scene did not need to be written that way. If Kirk is so great, then why make Harriman look so weak? A great leader will still look great next to an average leader, but the average leader would only look great next to the mediocre one. If this guy has attained the rank of Captain, and become the Captain of the new Enterprise with all the fame that name carries, why would he be incompetent, nervous, and wet-behind-the-ears? It would have been far better if Chekov was the new Captain. He then tries some ideas without hesitation, then puts Kirk in command while he will go to the deflector (after discussing the idea with Scotty), but Kirk stops him. He reminds him that this the Enterprise is his ship now and it's Captain is needed here (on the bridge). Then Kirk says "I'll take care of it" and the rest plays out as is. None of this would diminish Chekov OR Kirk, and Kirk still gets to be the hero.

  • @ncsquatch2514
    @ncsquatch2514 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Kirk is deffinently the best captain. TNG is my favorite series but my favorite Captain has got to be Kirk. He's more well-rounded and a better option then any other Starfleet captain in most scenarios.

    • @ronpetersen2317
      @ronpetersen2317 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      So many of the other captains are oooooh the primary directive oooh, while Kirk goes in and says "Your ... god ... is ..... a computer"

    • @upsidedown4155
      @upsidedown4155 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just a shame william shatner is a prick in real life, but when you got that bank balance it dont matter who you offend

    • @teresafinch7790
      @teresafinch7790 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sisko is the best, I have never liked Kirk, even though, I loved Star Trek right from the beginning.

    • @martinhanke1670
      @martinhanke1670 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kirk best, sisko worst. no other captain would stoop so low, as to poison a planet to get one guy.

    • @wangson
      @wangson 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@martinhanke1670 Sisko had the most embarrassingly melodramatic delivery of his lines - that's for certain. But Picard was the greatest ever.

  • @Blasted2Oblivion
    @Blasted2Oblivion 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    My favorite thing about Sisko punching Q is that it wasn't out of rage which, since it was Q, would be totally acceptable. The dude literally asked for it repeatedly and Sisko just said "fine, have it your way". [edit] The civilian ship stuck in the neutral zone is on its own. Not gonna risk a war that could kill billions to save a ship that should have been more careful. Heading 180 mark 0 and warp home.

    • @deniseherud
      @deniseherud 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Aaron I think the Prime Directive has a section about having to respond to distress calls from civilian ships🤷🏼‍♀️ The test is dumb anyway...it’s the same thing for like how many years?...How do u react in an unwinnable situation...u either get blown up, or like Troi, you gotta order a person to their death to save the rest of the crew.

    • @wilFluffball
      @wilFluffball 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Create a warp core breech and eject it next to the Klingon ship.

    • @bumbleguppy
      @bumbleguppy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Could have just opened hailing frequencies and ligma'd the Klingons, wiggled the aft of the ship and say "You want this, huh?"

  • @kurtbader9711
    @kurtbader9711 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yesterday's Enterprise was one of the most memorable episodes, but Capt. Garrett died before she could lead the Enterprise C back into battle. Lt. Richard Castillo did the job, along with help from the time-displaced Lt. Tasha Yar. Whoopie Goldberg's exchange with Sir Patrick Stewart will be remembered as long as humans exist. Epic stuff.

    • @y_fam_goeglyd
      @y_fam_goeglyd 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was one of the most heart-wrenching stories IMHO. Excellent writing (as a sci-fi writer, especially as I'm writing a novel about time travel atm, I know how difficult it can be to keep time shift plot threads from getting tangled up!)
      I'd hoped at one point that it meant that we got Tasha back, but as it went on, it was clear what she would do. She _could_ have stayed on Picard's Enterprise - the writers could have found a way - but it was a brave decision to send her back. The fear on her face despite her trying to hide it was a brilliant piece of acting on Crosby's part IMHO. It's rarely mentioned, sadly.

    • @kurtbader9711
      @kurtbader9711 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@y_fam_goeglyd So glad you see the excellence in this. Her exchange with Picard: "Captain, I've always known the risks that come with wearing a Starfleet uniform. If I'm to die in one, I'd like it to count for something."

    • @kurtbader9711
      @kurtbader9711 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@y_fam_goeglyd Good luck with your novel!

  • @sheldondean7949
    @sheldondean7949 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Let's give herriman a break here, more than likely, he was likely the shakedown cruise capitan, Starfleet has a tendency to take the least experienced captains and put them in the big chair to test the new ship, herriman being inexperienced in a crisis, did the right thing by asking Kirk for help

    • @karlsmith2570
      @karlsmith2570 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In Harriman's defense, he had probably only recently been promoted to Captain by the time that the Enterprise-B was commissioned, thus his notable lack of experience

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The fan production "Of Gods and Men" shows the actor returning to the role and doing a fine job as captain.

  • @Evil.Totoro
    @Evil.Totoro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you so much for bringing up multiple times regarding Sisko being the best captain. No other captain was as warm and loving as him, while being such a badass when the situation called for it. Plus the man can cook!

  • @rosab4698
    @rosab4698 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Picard never punched me!"
    "I'm not Picard"

  • @martinwolf6202
    @martinwolf6202 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Puh ...
    You think committing a warcrime is a brilliant move? We talk about a Star Fleet Captain and not a Romulan Sub Commander ...

  • @LessAiredvanU
    @LessAiredvanU 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Whilst most of it was amusing if not glib, it was spot on with number 1. "Yeah, those are Klingon.... civilians - general quarters, red alert, and engage!" Star Fleet at its best.

  • @danaripley1200
    @danaripley1200 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Took me a while to realize Kenneth Marshall (Michael Eddington) was Colwyn from the movie Krull.

    • @VonWenk
      @VonWenk 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm a Peter Yates fan, I saw Krull in the theater, and I had no idea. I just assumed Ken Marshall's career ended after Krull and Marco Parlo.

  • @jonsnowight9510
    @jonsnowight9510 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You got my "like" as soon as you said "Benjamin" at 0:08

  • @ZeroArmour
    @ZeroArmour 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I feel sorry for Harriman. A character thrown under the bus of making Kirk look good.

    • @Skyfire_The_Goth
      @Skyfire_The_Goth 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      His back story apparently is that his family was very influential and pulled strings to get him the captain position, he tried his best but knew he wasn't capable, that's why he turned command over to Kirk in the emergency.

    • @y_fam_goeglyd
      @y_fam_goeglyd 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Skyfire_The_Goth Totally agree. And unlike so many others in his position that I could mention ::cough:: Drumpty-bone-spurs::cough:: They've never had "no" as an answer and so never grew as a human being, leaving them with a toddler's mentality.
      At least Harriman knew that he was experientially underserved and took the best option for everyone, leaving him open to ridicule or charges of cowardice by those who wouldn't (rather than couldn't) understand his decision. With a powerful/influential family, that was a hard move for him, so I actually feel for him.
      It takes a big "man" (this is a particularly male trait, but by _no means exclusively_ - no, I'm not a misandrist in the slightest!) to know and accept one's failings, and a bigger man to admit it publicly. I say props to him for going against what his family (who, were this real life, had undoubtedly pushed him to do: i.e. enter Starfleet and get rushed up the ranks using their influence) would have expected him to do, even if it cost him his life and that of everyone on the ship because his ego wouldn't let him back down and hand over control to the better person for the job.
      Keeping this in RL, I _always_ admire people who are able to stand up to familial and/or peer pressure, _especially_ if it has to be made public. E.g. much as I don't really rate him in general, the current Prince Edward had been - at the very least at his father's behest - forced to join the Royal Marines on leaving uni (or during it. It was a long time ago!). All male heirs of the monarch and the heirs apparent & presumptive (depending on the generation as to which they are) traditionally join one of the forces, assuming they're fit to do so.
      Charles and Andrew both joined the Royal Navy, and served for enough years to honestly (not getting preferential treatment) promoted to, iirc, commander of a battle ship. (My memory is hazy about the details, but they're genuine veterans)
      Despite what's come out about him over the years, which does tarnish his status, Andrew was a genuine hero when he fought in the Falklands War (the Navy and the govt gave him the chance to not go, probably because they were scared of him being captured and therefore becoming a trophy/bargaining chip by the Argentinians. He and his family said he was going and that was that). His job was mainly flying his helicopter at relatively few feet - at a consistent height (27'? Something like that) above the water and between a target ship and heat-seaking missiles (exocets). This had the effect of literally "taking the heat off" the ships and very skillfully managing to keep out of their way, eventually crashing the missile into the sea.
      He (just like his fellow pilots) saved countless hundreds of lives every day by doing this. (The missile that got one of the ships, leaving high fatalities and horrendous burn injuries on survivors, just goes to show how important that job was. It takes balls of steel to be a helicopter pilot doing that!) He's a _bona fide_ hero, as are his cohorts (what a shame he's tarnished that). The late Prince Philip served in the RN during WWII including having his ship blown up under him - iirc, he was a lieutenant at the time, despite being a prince of two countries, Greece and Denmark. No accelerated rank to get him behind a desk for him! And he would never have accepted that for his kids (don't count honourary commands, that's just tradition).
      Imagine then, with that sort of history in his immediate family, let alone the centuries of fighting royalty we all learn about, how Edward must have felt going to his parents and telling them that though he could pass the selection, and I believe was still in the process of doing so (he might have completed it. I did hear from those going through it with him that he was treated identically to them), he knew that the military was not for him and he wanted to be involved in producing plays, tv shows, etc. (Apparently acting as growing up was one of the typical family activities.) No, he's not gay, he just loves the business.
      Word got out that his father was _not_ pleased (understatement) and it would probably have been easier to come out as trans (which would undoubtedly have confused and pissed off Philip in equal measure!) And then he had the gutter press calling him a coward. A number of his Marine colleagues spoke up for him, saying that he was really good at it, but it's just not for everyone, regardless of skill levels. Eventually the hoo-ha died down, but even now, some bitchy people still make snide comments in the media. It must have been 40 years ago or so!
      I know this is a bit of a tangent (also an understatement!), but it can put Harriman's actions into even greater perspective IMHO. Doing your parents' bidding in such a manner can control your life even if you try not to let it. Any real Harrimans out there, my respect!

  • @estudiordl
    @estudiordl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    First seconds on "and why is Benjamin Sisko", amen to that!

  • @yoda908
    @yoda908 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fun fact; both Sir Patrick Stewart, and David Warner both were in the Royal Shakespeare company. And Stewart openly said he was inspired by Warner in Hamlet so much it made him join the group. And later Stewart had a role in Hamlet in another production of the show. Just a little trivia fact for those who thought the episode of TNG chain of command might've felt a little more like a Broadway show when Warner and Stewart shared the scene together.

  • @jesusmora9379
    @jesusmora9379 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    sisko's plot armor truly has no limits.

  • @cybrmaTS
    @cybrmaTS 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Picard is the best captain imo, just a Brilliant character.

    • @haitileblanc3075
      @haitileblanc3075 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I’m rewatching TNG now and he’s brilliant Benjamin is #2. But it’s close

    • @jonsnowight9510
      @jonsnowight9510 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He is brilliant-just not as brilliant as Sisko and has not 1/10th of the development.

    • @Chuck_Hooks
      @Chuck_Hooks 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Looorrrd...I mean Captain Garth was likely the most brilliant. He was the "prototype." The captain that Kirk and the other cadets strove to be like.

    • @cybrmaTS
      @cybrmaTS 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Chuck_Hooks each to their own.

    • @Chuck_Hooks
      @Chuck_Hooks 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cybrmaTS I doubt if Picard was ever the model that academy cadets aspired to be like like captain Garth was

  • @Hawkeye26
    @Hawkeye26 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Sisko wasn't a "Captain" when he took on Q and punched him. Also notable, "Yamamoto"?? "Neandara III"? I think the script writers are spending too much time in their "pants".

    • @cybertenchi82
      @cybertenchi82 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe not, but he was the commanding officer of the station, so although he only had three pips at the time, he was Captain in all but name.

    • @Hawkeye26
      @Hawkeye26 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Solomon Kelsie McQueen Yes, "Yamamoto" is not the same as "Yamato". Hear the real phrasing of the ship's name and then the one heard in this video. :-)

  • @davidkrutsinger5414
    @davidkrutsinger5414 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My favorite person commanding the enterprise is Worf.

  • @phild8095
    @phild8095 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    satisfyingly round, and head in the same description, brilliant, just brilliant

  • @MichaelStrick9
    @MichaelStrick9 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    And it turned out the Maquis were right all along. I remember watching those early episodes when the Maquis first appeared, and even as a teenager I was like "dude, they're in the right. You don't need to necessarily help them, but just stay out of their way and let them help you!" Fast forward a couple seasons to when the Dominion appeared and struck a deal with the Cardassians, and you can bet a whole bunch of Star Fleet officers were kicking themselves.
    Regarding the Voyager integration, I don't think both sides despised each other as much as the writers and fans would go on to think. They had far more in common than in difference. I still think Chakotay was a better commanding officer than Janeway, especially in a situation where the ship and crew were on their own and needed to maximize every resource they could get. That's much more in line with how the Maquis had to operate.

  • @shakeyourbunny
    @shakeyourbunny 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Actually, Captain Rachel Garett is a greater hero than Picard or Kirk combined.
    She made the ultimate sacrifice to ensure peace.

    • @TTony-tu6dm
      @TTony-tu6dm 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s an argument that certainly has merit

    • @MarthaMedicare
      @MarthaMedicare 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Who?

    • @TTony-tu6dm
      @TTony-tu6dm 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jerri Blank Captain of the Enterprise-C, as established in the TNG episode “Yesterday’s Enterprise”

    • @derekbaca475
      @derekbaca475 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      She did do the hero's job. But, Kirk and Piccard would have gotten it done too, without dying. Just another day at the office for them.

    • @TTony-tu6dm
      @TTony-tu6dm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Derek Baca One ship against 4 Warbirds? Doubt anyone could have come out of that. She’s colossal because in that moment she realized what was to be gained outweighed what could be lost.

  • @MamaPinks
    @MamaPinks 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That was fun! Happy Saturday! 🖖

  • @Dzeroed
    @Dzeroed 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Janeway's desicion to breed with Paris. Hell I know she was mutated but that's no bloody excuse, there's just no room for that kind of fraternising between officers on the bridge of a starship GODDAMMIT! 🤨

  • @token1371
    @token1371 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    *Sisko and Picard are VERY close.* Picard wrongly often believes diplomacy works both ways (Crystalline Entity, Telling Romulans on their out of phase/cloak ship tech). Sisko had to fight Klingons/Cardassians/Jem' Hadar at ground zero. Both Sacrifice of Angels and Pale Moonlight strategies were great, but Sisko's man to man social and strategic skills at "The Siege of AR-558" is why Benjamin Lafayette Sisko (leaving his baseball at DS9) can equal Picard 'There are FOUR lights" level.

  • @philipportelli7700
    @philipportelli7700 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another great video!
    On "Voyager" Tuvok created a holodeck program to consider a Maquis mutiny.

  • @adamabbas1487
    @adamabbas1487 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That was one of siskos worst decisions and not in keeping with his character or sense of morality.

  • @freefromflags1480
    @freefromflags1480 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:46 I now believe that was a clue to Sisko's true heritage.

  • @chessie8583
    @chessie8583 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Quick note: the Enterprise D's sister ship is the YAMATO, not Yamamoto.

  • @MoonjumperReviews
    @MoonjumperReviews 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Okay, you’re back in my good graces. And I agree, Sisko-best captain ever!

  • @WendyWinchester
    @WendyWinchester 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would've watched the Hell out of a show with Garret as captain.

  • @ALL_OUT_OF_BUBBLEGUM
    @ALL_OUT_OF_BUBBLEGUM 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    No honorable mention for Scotty (I believe he was Captain Scott at the time) deciding he could save his life by continually transporting himself through an endless diagnostic loop?
    If anything, this deserves a nod for being a completely ingenious and credible way for a TOS character to appear in TNG
    (without needing extreme old age prosthetics or the benefit of being a Vulcan)

  • @user-zh4vo1kw1z
    @user-zh4vo1kw1z 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Godpuncher Sisko meets a playfull god, immediately punches it and survives.
    Picard meets a homicidal realitywarper, immediately punches himself and wins.
    Honestly can't say which is more impressive

  • @cartoonkelly7924
    @cartoonkelly7924 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rachael Garret I 100% agree there. Best captain.

  • @ray53208
    @ray53208 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The problem with Voyager and Enterprise was Berman.

    • @logicplague
      @logicplague 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'd rip the soul from my body and hand it to you to have Berman over Kurtzman.

    • @ray53208
      @ray53208 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@logicplague Well, there's no accounting for taste. But please make the effort anyway.

    • @logicplague
      @logicplague 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ray53208 Never said he was great, not even saying he was good, just that he's better than Kurtzman.

  • @mixy85dc
    @mixy85dc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good call on capt garret . Most def number 1