BEST Method For Applying THERMAL Pastes & Compounds - Change My Mind
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The BEST method for applying THERMAL pastes and compounds
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Applying thermal paste is one of those taboo subjects in the PC and tech World and everyone has their opinions, but most seem to fixate on temps, but that isn't the full story.
If you have ever tried to remove a CPU cooler and had the CPU come out with it and maybe damage some pins (AMD users mostly) then you know the feeling of total shock and fear that you might have damaged your prized CPU.
This generally happens due to two main reasons, the wrong paste or just too much of it.
So learning to use the right amount will help the thermal process and also to allow removal and replacement of CPU coolers and thermal compounds nuch much easier and most of all safer.
Please comment if you think this makes sense, or tell us about your favourite methods, and results you get. Better still try this method and see if it improves your temps and ease of use.
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The spread method is the best hands down. I use a blue painters tape around the cpu then spread. Put the tape 1/32nd of inch in on the cpu itself. After application, peel off the tape for a perfect application. When you apply the cooler, it will squeeze perfectly to the edge and not drop to motherboard or glob underneath the cpu. Same process for 32 years without error.
That's a great idea!
Do you wipe off the masking tape adhesive from the edges afterwards? OCD! 😁
You should try phase-change material Honeywell PTM7950. It comes in as a sheet, lasts longer, performs works better than traditional pastes and there is no pump-out effect.
Brilliant!
@@goorthissphase-change material Honeywell PTM7950 was actually tested on LTT and showed to work pretty well.
Thanks Mike. This is probably one of the best tutorials on applying thermal paste I've seen in a long time period definitely gonna share it with folks. Thanks
Wow, thanks!
Method may not matter, but “pre”-spreading let’s you see amount across the cpu, and also is more satisfying. Great video!
You are 100% correct and us old timers who used to apply paste directly to the die with no heat spreader know exactly why. It's just a tiny thin layer to fill in microscopic gaps in the mating surfaces. Nothing more.
sound advice old timer :-) - wait that is me as well :-(
Hey Mike I'm excited to try this spreading method as I mostly use the small pea dot method. My new paste came with a spatula just like the one you used here and I can see it's going to be perfect for spreading. Awesome video, thanks! :D
please give it a go and let us or me know how you get on.
Well done, Mike. The spread method is the one I have always used and always had good results.
Good stuff!
I agree about removing stock cooler paste. I installed a Corsair AIO and had to remove it shortly after. It was splotchy with some bare bits, apply your own.
I always totally spread the entire cpu like you mentioned. works so much better than dot in the middle I just my finger though!
Thanks for sharing!
I agree with spread method. Thats the most favorable in between contact with heatsink and cpu 👍
Absolutely!
When I started building computers back in the late 90's, I would spread with my finger. That's the only way to be sure that it spread in the right way, in my opinion
Then you risk spreading oils from your finger onto the CPU
@@danieldevito6380 I always use alcohol wipes for cleanliness!
@@danieldevito6380or wrap your finger with some plastic wrap and then spread it 🤷♂️
Been building PCs for years. I also always use the spread with finder method. No issues doing it that way either. Used to use Arctic silver 5, but have changed to Arctic mx4. Pretty happy with it and spreads out easily in my opinion.
To be honest I just keep a rag like an old washcloth or old towel of some kind and gently wipe off the old paste when needed. Perhaps I should use wipes but no issues with just wiping off the paste so far.
As far as the cpu coming up when removing the cooler, I’ve found start your system up for about 5 minutes to heat up the cpu. Shut down, loosen the cpu cooler and give it some gentle twists side to side to break the seal of the paste between the cpu and heatsink.
@@danieldevito6380Which does exactly what?
Great tutorial. Having followed many videos abiut pea or rice method I have always worried that the cpu wudnt be covered fully. Totally agree with idea of spreading the thermal paste👍 Use arctic mx4 after watching one of yiur videos when building d'ters pc late 2019. Thanks for sharing Mike and Kath👍
thanks nick, it just makes sense thin layer and total (or near ) coverage, allowing for the maximum thermal transfer and minimal paste will just file the gaps as it should
Yes Mike, I have recently adopted the "Plunge'n'Spread" method.... You just get consistent results!
agreed
Great review Mike and Lady Kath. I do not lap the CPU, but I do lap the bottom of the cooler. I too prefer the Thermal Grizzly Hydronaut. I use to only apply paste to just the heat pipes...but have since started using the spread method. Take care all. Cheers
Thanks for sharing! i need to get some thermal grizzly paste i think
i use deep cool cheapest thermal paste for more than 20 years with much better results trust me brand is just a jimmick and thermal grizzly is one of them even though it produce good results.
Looks good - will definitely give that method a go next time - Carey Holzman uses his finger (with a rubber glove) but achieves the same effect - thanks for another great tuition video
yeah that works well, just make sure it is even and not over applied and that will make removal a lot easier after
Old video, but it's worth mentioning that I always used the thin-ish film as you demonstrated on my many PC builds.
I needed to remove my AIO cooler a couple weeks back to fix a hard to reach cable and decided to see what would happen if I put a much thicker film on there.
I used at least double what you did and what I used to do.
I can say that my temps dropped 3 degrees c.
So, I saw a big difference using more paste.
that is pretty interesting. Some coolers if they don't have a flat base, or ridges for heat pipes can benefit from more paste
@@mikesunboxing It's a sample size of one cooler.... so take that as you will. I think GN did a huge video on it and determined that as long as you have enough to cover the whole thing, it does not really matter at all.
With GPUs though, error on the side of too much.
Also worth mentioning for coolers with exposed heat pipes on the cold plate is to use the spread method in the little gaps on the cold plate before mounting, what's left on the spreader after doing th CPU is usually enough.
That's a good idea!
Watching that while spreading butter on my toasts.... This works great for that too, no more dry spot on the bread. Thanks! 😁
Perfect! where do you think i got all my practice :-)
Great, this tutorial emphasizes everything that I thought but haven't seen so well explained/shown. Also great that you filmed the whole spreading process so there is no doubt on how to do it. It's important to understand that the thermal paste is designed to minimize microscopic air gaps and irregularities between the surface of the cooler and the CPU's heat spreader (the top plate). So putting to much can affect the thermal conductivity that is supposed to be directly between the surface of the cooler and the CPU's heat spreader. This is also why you need a god thermal paste as the MX-4 (or MX-6) with a high thermal conductivity value [W/mk].
Much appreciated... thank you!!!
.oO(this video should be a reference to everybody working with thermal paste on their processors)
thank you for the kind comment, glad it helped you
*J'ai vu plein de méthodes d'application de la pâte thermique sur le processeur (sur TH-cam), mais votre méthode me semble bonne aussi...* Je pense que c'est votre méthode que je vais appliquer sur mon futur 13900 finalement.
Merci, bon travail !
merci d'avoir pris le temps de commenter et j'espère que votre build Intel se passera bien
Hi, Mike. The spread method is 100% Oletta approved. I've done it that way for years. I also believe lapping the CPU and Water-block is an important first step before applying the paste. In regards to the paste itself, I only use Thermal Grizzly Hydronaut because it doesn't harden over time and it's highly thermally conductive without being electrically conductive. Per example: Idle temp for my OC Ryzen 9 3900X averages 9 degrees above room ambient, and after a 15 minute run on Cinebench R23 max temp 71c. Cheers!
thanks oletta, and nice temps
@Oletta Liano I am sure you have become very good at lapping...
@@PapaMav Only Rosa knows for sure. 😂
@@OlettaLiano I know who to come to in the future for spread methods
@@uglybob7505 Sweet, and I know who to invite over for lunch. 🧛♀
Thank for the demonstration... It helped me to reduce the CPU temperature
Glad to hear that
Glad to hear that
Spread method is best. Reapplied mx4 on my 3400G and used the supplied plastic spatula thingy. Less is definitely more. Less cleaning up on next re-application and also more applications from the 4g tube. Just run cinebench a few times temperature dropped by a couple of degrees the score after reapplying was a bit less for some strange reason lol. Top video Mike👍
thanks mark, and yes i totally agree less is more
That’s my most preferred method. Great video thanks Mike. I am guessing will be a popular one.
I hope so!
I apply a thin bead along one edge of the cpu and use an old credit or debit card and press n spread to the other edge, perfect!
Great video. When i first did it i put too much on there and when i put the cooler on , it was ugly and messy 😆. Glad i watched this video 👍
You put that compound on there however you want mate. Its 2022, good looking lad like you can do whatever he wants 🙂
haha very true bob
Spread method works Fantastic. I use to use the X method inside a square but this method is how I do now. For some reason I really like applying thermal paste. Very satisfying for some strange reason. Lol
it really is, next up how to plaster over a network port hole :-)
@@mikesunboxing Even MORE satisfying!!!
Literally did my first ever thermal paste replacement today. Thanks for the video was able to get my cpu to go from 75 to 65 🎉
congrats
Totally agree Mike. Spread method is spot on...
cheers bill
You sure have the right tips for a new pc builder. Good video 👌
Thank you
This is exactly the way how you should apply thermal paste on your cpu.
I never have seen this video.
But i also found out due trial and error that this way is the most effective way for maximum cooling.
i agree, it saves money and works well, and also doesn't end up like glue
Excelent vídeo, thanks!.
I mix MX-4 with NT-H1 and using the spreader.
done it this way for some years now. 😀
i might get some noctua paste well my stock of mx4 runs down a bit. there was a special offer on mx4 and i bought way too much of it
Thanks so much! I favorited this for when I upgrade my CPU. Seeing you do this slowly and methodically gives me more confidence. I can actually see what you're doing because of the close-up. Thanks for that.
Glad it helped! hope you feel confident when you come to do it yourself
@@mikesunboxing update: I did it!
@@BrandonBurch awesome! hope the video gave you a little knowledge and confidence to do it
Looking at that I've probably put to much on, but it is working. That thinner layer could squeeze a couple of more degrees perhaps?
I'm getting a constant 43 degrees sitting in bios for a few hours, with 3 x quiet case fans at 50 % ish, 5600G/A520M-DS3H, Amd wraith stealth heat sink block, slightly extended. I've replaced the CPU fan with a TUF 120 AIO, but set to start at 48 degrees. Intend a temperature ceiling of 63 degrees, and only case fans when idle / light browsing.
I need to get some software installed to see what it does in action, (not gaming). Still to get a external 5.25"drive enclosure as the thermaltake H15 case 5.25" Bay, won't take much LG BDe data writer, clashes with the power plug, by 30mm !
I've a FX6300 to re-compound , once the new build is loaded, so surely will be the spread method. 😉
Really enjoying your videos, thanks 😊
thanks for the info john
I've always been using the 'dot' method with full load 79 degrees. Since I deep cleaned my pc, my friend told me to use the spreading method. I did it and at full load it went from 79 degrees to 62 at max. Huge diff.
Before spread idle: 50 degrees
After spread idle: 33
I have a Ryzen 5600x with Noctua NH-U12S redux. I use Thermal Grizzly that came with a spreader.
Thanks for sharing
If you dropped 17°, you probably did something wrong the first time because there's no way you should've lowered your temps that much just by using the spatula.
@@danieldevito6380 where did i say that part, i need to recheck that section, i certainly wouldn't see that much difference, you are right, but i can see where i said that
Hello really very good info,Thanks and new subscriber from The Netherlands
Thanks and welcome to our little tech community glad to have you in our group
Any method that ensures thermal paste coverage of the entire cpu IHS / die is fine imo. TIP: FOR REMOVING CPU FROM HEATSINK / COOLER ….IVE FOUND RUNNING CPU FOR FEW MIN’s THEN SWITCH OFF PC AND THEN TWIST (after cpu screw removal) THE HEATSINK GENTLY WHILE CPU IN SOCKET HELPS DETACH AND REDUCES CPU BEING RIPPED OUT OF LOCKED SOCKET! As thermal compound becomes more runny and less tactile 🥰👍🤯 Great video Mike! I’ve use various methods but pea and spatula method for me are most commonly used👍😇
a stuck cpu is never a nice thing and it always scares me, but since fully adopting the thin spread method not one single cooler has gotten stuck and most actually just fall off - which is excellent!
Great video. Why did you leave round the edges though?
the compression will squish out the paste to the edges after a while, and too much compound on the edges solidifies and "glues" the cooler to the CPU
Mike, have you run any tests for temp differences between this method and the traditional "pea" method? I get what you are saying about AMD CPUs getting removed when removing the cooler; would you say the spread method is more important when using an AMD CPU vs Intel? Thank you as always for the insights.
yes i have done previously and with the pea it is about consistantly getting the right amount which is hard to know unless you take the cooler off to see the coverage.
the pea method for me often gives slight variations when testing so i like the spread method as i can work it the same pretty much every time. In terms of actual differences is it almost nothing in it unless you compare a poor pea application and then it is still only maybe at the most 3 degrees or thereabouts.
for me it is more about the ease of removal and trying to prevent the cpu ripping out when changing coolers
As I thought. Thank you Mike.
I've always used spread, only way to truly guarantee it's covering the full IHS.
Mike gets his spatular out.
I think it varies with application.
Me. A pea dot in the middle. Not too little and a little more can't harm.
My patience to spread the paste out has long since gone.
Cheers Mike.
as you know from the recent results from the 5800x (thanks to you) the spatula thin spread method works well and also makes it easy to remove the cooler without the cpu coming with it. I hate it when that happens
@@mikesunboxing I'm older, but NOT always wiser, in fact I'd check every thing I do 😉
Mike that was so therapeutic to watch, now if you don't mind my walls need plastering 😃
Lol! I need some plastering done too! 😂
James from Kitguru does an excellent job of spreading thermal paste on CPUs, and he did used to be a plasterer!
I do it the same way Mitch Haman said he does it. Some people used to think thermal paste helped with cooling, it doesn't. It impedes cooling. As Mike pointed out it's simply the lesser of 2 evils, a gap of air is worse than a gap filled in with TIM. In a perfect world the IHS and the heatsink would be perfectly flat and mate across both surfaces perfectly. Things are often far from perfect, just look at the variation in core temps on some intel CPUs, even intel can't get dies to disperse heat evenly to the IHS. This is why people delid, lap CPU die, and sometimes even lap the bottom of their heatsink/block. So I'm not gonna try to change Mike's mind. He's right. 😎
thanks james, the voice of reason
Strangely enough changed my thermal paste last night , have always used the spread method, great informative video Mike ,stop saying Zeee its Zed, your English. ;)
thanks paalo
I always suspected spreading is best. But after years of hearing unspread works as well, I figure take the easy way out if it's all the same. But after watching this, I will be going with what I originally suspected.
the thing is that under compression generally speaking the paste "should" all squish out like in the spread method, but it isn't an exact science and thicker pastes won't squish as well as thinner ones obviously.
You want 100% coverage of the IHS. True, the heat producing elements are of the CPU don't extend completely to the edges, but it is the job of the IHS to "spread" the heat evenly across the entire surface and you want to allow heat from all areas to pass into the cooler.
I always did the pea method since like 2001, and this drops temps I was curious what people was doing with AMD I used 5 dots which my 3700x only went to 67c full load so not bad. Now my 5700x is a little hotter imo so I did this and its under 70c in gaming now.
There was also a video about different thermal paste applying methods that concluded that the spread method is also most efficient thermal wise.
i can see why
for high-end cpu I normally using use x pattern
Good method Mike.
I've spread it with a credit card or my finger in a plastic baggy.
yeah use what you have on hand, even rubber gloves
Thank you
You're welcome
Admittedly I stressed A LOT about this before installing my Ryzen 7600. I ended up using the uncooked pea method. So far so good!
Nice work!
just get thermaltake TG 30 thermal paste,..included with it is honeycomb stencil & a spreader, easiest way if you r bothered with too or little paste, it gets the job done perfectly.
and i still come back to this vid 7mths later and stand by the spread method with a glue spreader in a multy pack made for crafting with wood glue
Yep me too
Why not use the spread method on the heat pipe surface of the cpu cooler? Or is the heat pipe surface bigger than the cpu surface so the chance of paste spreading out outside cpu surface is greater? Anyway only apply thermal paste either on the surface of the cpu or cooler, not both ofcourse!
By the way I am convinced of the spread method. Before I always used the dot method but since the introduction of heat pipe coolers the spread method is in my opinion the best. Other methods give insufficient spread out after pressing the cooler down.
Also there are different kinds of heat pipe surfaces. Some of them are separated by aluminum or nickel metal between the heat pipes and other surfaces of the heatpipes form one solid block, the heat pipes are welded together and form one block. Maybe it is an idea to make a video of different surfaces of cpu heat pipe coolers and what the benefits are and how to apply thermal paste.
On the AMD coolers with pre-applied paste are we saying its inefficient application for heat transfer? I can usually get the cooler off the CPU by letting it run to warm the paste first then wiggling it.
the paste is a low quality and has a really sticky consistency, warming it up and or twisting the cooler will get it off in most cases, but why risk breaking the cpu for the sake of a few moments carefully applying paste, it might even give better performance
Yep, spread 100%
The problem is that with the GC extreme it's almost impossible to apply a thin layer , either you get a lot or none.
Temps were sky high .
I prefer the Arctic Mx-2 , will try MX-4 also just because :) super cheap to buy ,why not ?
Thanks for sharing
the problem of spreading the dough with the spatula is the appearance of air bubbles the best is the dice method with the 5 points
any then you introduce massive air pockets between the dots
Have you tested spread then dot on top?
That also works very well but can add to the cleanup if you are using too much
Best way is to get an AM4 offset brackets and some Arctic MX-6 thermal paste using a small thin spatula and spreading an evenly thin coat.
well wot can i say i always use spread method but with grizly and works realy well as i changed from pea method
That's awesome! that seems to be a common theme that people are using thermal grizzly, need to try it
Agreed.
Watching to put the thermal paste that came with the alseye m240. Is it a good thermal paste or I should buy one? It says thermal conductivity 7.5w and resistance 0.6 and 25% silver.
it was pretty good when i used the branded stuff, not sure if it is the same in the kit though
@@mikesunboxing ok
I've considered the spread method for years, but I kept reading that there's more of a chance of tiny micro bubbles that would arise, rather than just doing the pea or rice method, which would lead to inconsistent and higher temps?
A micro bubble is better than a totally missed section.
@@mikesunboxing Okay, I'll try it out. Thanks!
Used to use the dot but with am4s poor clamp method I've moved over to spreading!
spreading is the best option for so many reasons
MX4 spreads great but MX5 not so much. The last time I tried spreading MX5 there was more left on the spatula! I've since gone back to using MX4.
the first batches of mx5 where horrible to spread and the wrong mixture i think. the new stuff is a different consistancy and spreads easily
@@mikesunboxing That's good to hear but I think I'll stick (or not stick as the case may be) with MX4 anyway. Cheers.
I use the spread too
hey dude
I have been using the spread method for 20 years and never understood how anyone ever thought another method would be as good. I do see that most people use too much paste when using this method. You only want enough to fill the gaps where the IHS or cooler plate are not perfectly flat and will leave air-gaps. IHS to cooler direct contact is great, but not consistent.
yep i agree and am often guilt of it :-)
What should I use if I don’t have a plastic spreader? I only have a metal one.
that should be okay just be careful or use a rubber glove and use your finger
With something like the i9 13900k wouldnt this be too thin to cool such a beast? Should i add a small bit more?
add as much as you like, most thermal compounds are not conductive so won't be a problem, just more to clean up when doing maintainance
Ive seen this spread method creates air bubbles. Wont it make perfomance worse?
doesn't seem to, that is why i smooth it out many times to try and prevent that, and besides i would rather a few micro bubbles and be able to remove the cooler easily without breaking pins or being stuck to the cooler
how can I spead the thermal paste without a applicator spread tool? I have MX-4 45g, but no spread tool?
Old credit card works well
Yeah I think you’re probably about right because the spread just means that (simply put) enough paste is on everywhere that it needs to be.
Just for discussion - how often do people change/repaste their CPUs ??
That is a very valid question. Most arguably never do. But for those that like to swap coolers and try new configurations this method can save a lot of agro
The best thermopaste to date is Noctua NT-H1 lubrication thermopaste this method is the best 😎👍
nt-h1 is really easy to use
Oh Jeeze! I used a quarter of my 4 gram paste. Mine probably looks like a sloppy Joe under the cooler. lol
more is often better than too little, don't worry it will be fine
I'm always afraid that pre-spread is going to trap voids that would be swept by the squish method.
I'll always pre-spread a naked core though
squishing is squishing however it is applied if the pressure is enough
@@mikesunboxing based reply
How many Ryzen CPU you can cover with MX-4 8g ?
LOTS! never counted and depends on the paste method. could be around 20
Thanks Mike. That was what i needed to know. Your channel is by fare the most usefully pc related channel.@@mikesunboxing
@@robbyrock-drummer That's very kind of you 🙂
That hair coming off the cpu bracket drives me nuts, lol
sorry, we have many cats
Hey do u make gaming desktops for people to purchase??
for local people i can do, i don't ship PCs it is way too expensive at the moment and the risks with DPD bouncing them around etc
@@mikesunboxing r u located in Florida by chance??
Lol no sorry Bristol UK 🇬🇧
Maybe see if Greg Salazar can fix one up for you, he is Florida based
@@mikesunboxing ok will do.
The objective best way to prevent the CPU from being pulled out when removing the cooler is to take 2 entire seconds to twist the cooler left and right a little bit before pulling it away. The method of paste application is far less important to this issue. Any method can harden and glue the cooler to the chip, a small twist frees it every time.
pretty much this.
i would love to agree but that isn't always the case for me and for a large number of our viewers, especially with those that have the stock AM4 or intel coolers.
And besides why risk damaging an expensive processor and waste thermal paste and performance?
Is this recommended for a newbie who's about to make his first build? I feel I might fudge it up, spread unevenly, have to try over and over, eventually get discouraged and throw the entire PC away.
if you mess this up you really should not be building a PC, harsh but facts. If you have ever spread butter on toast or jam on bread it isn't much different, if you need help please ask
@@mikesunboxing I guess we'll have to wait and see until it's done.
@@galloe Good luck
@@mikesunboxing Went great!
@@galloe Glad to hear that - good job 🙂
how many months should I re-apply my thermal paste?
in theory you should be able to leave most decent thermal pastes for many years, but if you are seeing a steady rise in temps that is a sign that the paste might be hardening and needs replacing, maybe once a year as part of general housekeeping is about right
A dot inside a square method works for me.
This is the old method , dinosaurs like me did back in the days, even with the finger... and it allways worked fine !
Oops. I bought the ak 620 deep cool and used the whole tube.😅 Hopefully its fine
at least it won't dry out quickly
This might sound really dumb to a lot of people but I am terrible at this method! I tired it on my third build and I couldn’t get it to spread it just kinda smushed and looked dry. If that makes sense lol? I think I wasn’t pressing down hard enough (worried I might press too hard and damage the cpu socket). Does anyone have any tips?
it will also depend on the paste you are using some are thicker and hard to spread, with those a small rice grain on top works okay
Great coverage.... 🤣
makes sense... you want the paste as less as possible (only to fill all the gaps and microscopic irregularities)... you do not want that forbidden oreo... metal is still better conductor than paste and paste is better conductor than air...
absolutely right
doesn't the liquid metal thermal paste spreads itself proper though? :)
probably it is very lightweight in terms of viscoscity
Yeah the spread method is always best :)
It really is! and makes separation so much easier next time
have anyone tried to dilute the paste so it is more fluid so it can spread betteR?
that probably isn't a good idea to dilute the formulation
@@mikesunboxing will work if the diluent is something that evaporates.
I'm one of those that just smears it with my finger 😂
The only reason I would apply thermal paste like this is if there was a global shortage of thermal paste. The difference between this and a pea sized blob is non-existent.
the difference is the removal afterwards and getting your pea size right
@@mikesunboxing I can understand that, but I would feel much more peace of mind knowing the entire surface area of the cpu is covered, the spreading technique is the best for easily replicable application, but it is also possible to create little air pockets.
@@batchynator air pockets are a potential for all application methods unless the paste has such a low viscosity that it self levels and using a lot of paste can also create air pockets due to the high and low spots. a THIN spread removes the possibility of peaks and lows, Lots of people use the spread method but use way too much
@@mikesunboxing
No. He is right. Spread method traps air pickets. Take a clear glass and check for yourself.
Basically that's why tile workers comb mortar in a straight line pattern - to let air out.
Air bubbles don’t matter?
only if you can physically see them in my opinion
The spread methood actually is the correct methood its why a spatchular is included with most Pastes today also you get full plate coverage which spreads the heat more evenly thus increasing the life of the die !
ps; did you figure out the AIO /Fan Header issue ?
i think so, it still is a little hot but seems that board likes to ramp up the voltage a lot, and the 5800x doesn't really like that unlike some of the other in the range
I used to be a pea method man, then I switched to X... I really cannot tell the difference to be honest. Admittedly spreading does seem to make sense. Pretty much any method is ok except of course if you use the line method, then don't bother talking to me!!! :)
I tend to use the same shape as the symbol on the latest Ed Sheeran album 🙂
lol