im so sad that i will never see the zoom team perform on mcountdown. putting zoom and law against each other was so horrible for my heart UGH THEY WERE SO GOOD AND WE’LL NEVER SEE THEM TOGETHER AGAIN
Trainees like wang zihao have literally been done so dirty. Even the the teachers acknowledge his talents, yet he’s barely been seen anywhere. I only learned about him because I kept hearing and seeing his name from fans. The concept of having 90+ trainees on a show that will only last 12 episodes is just insane. There will never be enough screen time to share everyone’s moments and stories & it sucks because there are sooo many talented trainees that join.
You're SO right! If they're going for 98 or 99 trainees then they should debut at least three groups with different concepts and have like 20+ episodes. If not, they should only accept 50 trainees max imo
I was so mad that they didn't show how much zihao contributed to the team, he did half of the choreography, but they only showed yujins, and when zihao showed his choreo they cut the compliments he got from the mentors making it seem that his choreo wasn't good or deserving of praise, on top of that they cut every single time he talks outside of his introduction. A lot of people think zihao doesn't know how to speak Korean, but many trainees have confirmed that he actually can and people who went to the live showcase also confirmed that minhyuk asked questions to zihao, and he responded in Korean, and apparently he was good at it, almost all the times he speaks Korean on the show it gets cut, and on top of that they will cut to reactions from the crowd or the mentors every time he was on the center position, it's clear as day that mnet really doesn't want to showcase zihaos talent, and it's really infuriating.
Also add the fact that they never show his personality, if you see the practice room live stream you will see how cute and funny zihao is, but they never show it.
the conflict between the rush hour team felt real tho, even cnetz confirmed that it was not a mistranslation. Tbf ricky didn't even get evil edited because he kept quiet and there was nothing to evil edit, however jingxiang kept picking up unnecessary fights with the teammates
jingxiang was just anxious because his rank was low and he wanted to put all in for the performance for them to all work hard, but they were going too slowly. the editing later of him and ricky on the rehearsal was so forced too
Zihao was done so dirty despite choreographing one of the best dance breaks i have ever seen and being objectively the best dancer there too. It’s like they tried to make it seem like Yujin made up the whole choreo … AND they kept cutting to the audience during Zihao’s center parts, mnet really doesn’t want Zihao to debut it seems
In the live broadcast, I was also surprised that Zhang Hao got first place too because he did not have enough screentime in the performance.😢 But then I watched each their individual fancams and said "damn now I know why he got first place." He really deserved the first place. He definitely captured everyones attention there. His natural stage presence is insane.🎉
@@dcans3102 he could manage about his confidence, he got less line but he made it perfect, he also gave an idea to the choreo after got his confidence, he deserve got higher point :)
im sorry but there was no evil editing when shuaibo was bad mouthing woonggi. it has been confirmed by chinese citizens, so it was not evil editing this time.
Mnet Is the boy who cried wolf they are right this time but no believes them that their fault for doing all that to innocent trainees & now this time wasn’t evil edited & no one believes them shuaibo is getting hate now
yeah chinese is my first language and shuaibo had bad attitude. he did pretty well in the final performance but in the practice, from what mnet showed of him, it seemed like he practically gave up
@@jeongminfordebut i will say that in the second clip when he's talking to cjx, it seems like he's talking shit about the producers for not giving them translators because when he said "the producers will help us" while in the dorms, i'm curious what he means by help because he was on ywy where the pds helped TRANSLATE for foreign trainees (something mnet is known for not doing, even during girls planet)
he probably spoke too nice and positive, he wasn't harsh enough cos they seem to only want those kind of responses on the show ig 😅 i remember them making that one dramatic zoom when they asked for his opinion and he only spoke calm and nice, had me rolling on the floor 😂
@@Didi-bf3ge Mnet really tried to evil edit Ricky, but he was so calm the whole situation. Even when that Jixiang guy got mad. Seriously the last episode so many chinese trainees got evil edited.
We are not, but Koreans are... They votes count a lot... mnest has already their line up selected and they will manipulate koreans to vote for them. As always
I just want Wang Zihao, Lee Dongyeol, Woongki, Krystian, Anthonny, Cong, SHanbin, Hui and even Gunwook to know they were worth to be called Best Performer too.
Oh no, mnet definitely wants Gunwook. Its obvious since day 1. Too much obvious. Also Gunwook has has more screentimw than 80% of trainees. This says a lot. Maybe he didn't have this time but look at other episodes... too much screentime. Some of trainees appeared in thw show only for their faces reaction and that's it.
I feel like Hui is gonna be in the Top 9. I mean, think about it... Every single survival show that had a veteran participating has had the chance to debut. And also, everyone is gonna freak out if Mnet plans to eliminate an experienced man.
@@aloe5107 Mnet and Jellyfish has a secret relationship for sure... They focused more on Kim Dayeon on GP999, and history is repeating again in Boys Planet.
kinda expected this gonna happen, centerz is an icon, and when they are in one team (+bestie) totally double kill for screentime... as for Gunwook, he was highlighted in previous mission Kill This Love and got many hates, maybe this time to cold down a bit and expecting for the next mission.
The good thing is, both Dayeon and Gunwook are talented! At least in this case they are not favoring untalented people just because of secret deals with companies..
for me zoom was the best performance of boys planet so far, they absolutely killed it!! and i LOVED limousine too, they're all so talented, i'm really sad knowing they probably get eliminated :/
WANG ZIHAO RICKY CHEN KUANJUI ALL OUTSOLD. also guys please remember that evil editing isn't just what mnet chooses to edit, it's also what they choose to leave out... yes jingxiang and shuaibo both acted unideally, but in such a stressful time-constrained situation, conflicts are bound to happen, so why is it only chinese trainees that end up catching the flack? there's no way it's a coincidence. sinophobia is deeply rooted in not only knetizens but international stans' mindsets, and i need some of you to get your heads out of your asses and recognize it. note: for shuaibo's issue, someone who allegedly was present during shooting said that what shuaibo said abt woonggi was actually directed towards mnet and their refusal to translate for international trainees. ofc i can't confirm anything, but that would make a lot more sense than shuaibo openly bitching on camera about his teammate and roommate who he clearly supports (if the survivor broadcast was any indication). i fully believe that it's stupid woonggi didn't get first. even so, it's completely fucked if mnet really chose to manipulate the footage that way.
I agree, I don't think people understand or truly appreciate the power of editing. I watched a Netflix kdrama titled, "Be Melodramatic" and there was this scene in episode 3 (timestamp: 31:09-34:15) where one of the leads got invited to a talk show and basically made a ruckus with someone she had beef with in the past on set. The cast along with the director were so stressed out since two grown adults were arguing in that manner on TV. So, in episode 4 (timestamp: 11:10-13:04) when the lead gathered her friends to watch the airing of her guest appearance on the talk show, she (and me) was expecting a sh#t show since she was arguing the whole time. When I tell you I was shook with the post-editing and the final piece the director decided to air. If I didn't watch the prior episode, I would have 100% believed the lead and the lady she hated were best friends catching up! Their conversation sounded sweet and fluid when in actuality it was a lot of editing done...moral of the story, ANYTHING you see and hear from these highly produced and directed shows are storyboards they want the audience to see and believe. If you don't know any of the trainees personally, please refrain from spreading hate. Take both good and bad deeds shown with a grain of salt. It's purely for entertainment.
I wasn’t surprised when they announced Jay is 12th. He didn’t get the benefit once again, he didn’t get a storyline, he didn’t stand out in Home. I still think him choosing Home was a big mistake, however, if he’s in Over me, he’ll go viral for sure but he has my votes anyway. Zoom and Limousine are my favourite stages, I was rooting for these boys🥲
@@irina0419 zhang hao keita and jay are my top 3 picks!! i’m praying that we’ll be able to see them perform the same song at least once and over me is perfect for them!
@@jeongminfordebut Hopefully they’ll perform lots of songs together after they all get into the final lineup :) but also over me coz they all suit that song !!
Law team did well,they worked really really hard like wang zihao commented on his fancam that this time he did even more hard work than he usual does(we already know the strict trainer aka best leader parkhanbin made them practice alot) but rap part I felt like it didn't reach expectations and felt lacking but have to agree that this teams dance was over all the best and this team really did work hard but according to overal performance I feel like zoom deserved better score....I'm kinda bittersweet about it cuz both keita and wangzihao are my fav and yedam hanbin kamden wang zihao yujin need to get benefits so they rank higher or atleast for yedam so he is in safe zone but it put park hyunbeen wumuti Ollie in danger and also haruto keita would've ranked higher
If you look carefully in his fancam(wangzihao) his legs weaken at somepoint 😢(I think it's after effect for doing that knee knock step as they have also practiced it many and many times😢)
Shuaibo is foul for all that, honestly the more I find out about woonggi the more I really want to support him through everything because that dude's personality is just chefs kiss
Not sure if it was evil editing but my gosh… zhuangshuaibo…the attitude, the pushing of responsibility, thinking that he didn’t need to try hard since the producers could just edit the bad parts out…like 🤦🏻♀️everyone else is literally fighting for their lives to stay on the show and ur here spreading negativity. I truly hope this was just a case of evil editing
Hi! I’m so confused ㅜㅜ The one with krystian and kamden before was obv. evil editing but this one with mjx I’m not sure what to believe in. It was the 2nd time that it happened and with the other trainees’ testimony as well. Can you give me any explanation as to why you think it’s not evil editing, please? Bc I’m def one of those who got fooled if it is indeed just mnet’s play ㅠㅠ
@@nabinarratives def evil editing. you can tell the boy is obviously stressed and is trying to express himself. these cameramen are locked on chinese trainees to get their dramatic storylines - awful.
my emotion throughout ep7: 📈😌📉😭📈😆📉😐 like I was excited to see LAW but then Rush Hour whole thing was so awkward and tense but then we got those diss raps from Limousine then that sad part with Woongki but that hype Tomboy team like WTF HAPPENED
i agree with 2:11. also maybe because theres quite a lot of yuehua trainees on the top right now and they don’t wanna raise suspicions on company partnerships again 👀
this ep was filled with great performances, and im so happy camden was happy in his team, and yoojin finally got his confidence back, #bringkeitatomcountdown, and law devoured.
Please vote for jay, dudes team always miss the win very closely and he never gets benefit points😭 he deserves to debut, let’s get him in the debut team
pls i woke up early to watch the survival announcement to find out my one pick dropped out of the top 9 😃😃😃😭😭😭 i was crying when they announced it was him and when mnet just ended it i sobbed even harder i can't do this boys planet thing anymore 😭😭😭
@@Luca3538... no mnet had a livestream for 30 minutes on march 17th after episode 7, just to announce one trainee. the rest of the elimination will show on episode 8, next week.
5:10 I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS TEAM WAS LAST OUT OF VOCAL/DANCE like I watched kuanjui's fancam and idk, just the song and the way he performs had me actually emotional... like he's such an amazing performer truly If he gets eliminated it's going to become a permanent personality trait of mine I hope he makes it
I gotta add something on shuai bo's attitude As someone who can understand Chinese, what he says is absolutely disrespectful to woongki (he kinda used his privilege of speaking chinese since woongki cannot understand Him not giving all his effort in the mentor review section is unable to be an evil editing yes his performance might be enlarged to further make him look evil But in the end, he is the one that did these actions that made mnet had the chance to edit it He even sang the lyrics wrong during the final performance So this is why the people were so mad at him
apparently mnet cut it out that shuai bo said it abt the mentors because they didnt explain something?? if he did say it about woongki i would be mad though
@lavistic to what I understand is that shuai bo said that of course they do will bad in performance because "he" didn't explain the choreography and changed it without asking their opinion (he is talking to the other China trainee) from what I understand the "he" is referring to woongki, so he kinda took advantage of using Chinese since woongki cannot understand it.
i'm glad you're calling out the mnet evil editing, because i saw SO many people denying it in this episode because the trainees were the ones displaying the 'bad attitudes' and doing it to themselves. i feel like people don't understand that evil editing isn't just literally putting words in the trainees mouths, it's also choosing to showcase these negative moments of SPECIFICALLY chinese trainees and spend little to no time showing these trainees pushing through these moments and coming out the other end of it like they do with the korean trainees. and it ONLY ever happens with chinese trainees. the same exact thing happened in girls planet, as well. and now everyone's turning on these members, just like mnet wanted. it's disappointing to see the viewers fall for it EVERY single time, and then continue to deny it being mnet's fault. and i ADORE zhang hao, and he absolutely deserves an even higher placement if you ask me, but you can tell that mnet's making him their xiating of last season. they want him in the group, like her, but i GUARANTEE if he manages to take 1st at any point, mnet will make sure he doesn't end up there (though i'm honestly okay with either him or hanbin ending up as center). i'm hoping other chinese trainees can push their way into the top and stay there, because it was sad to see only xiaoting make it into kep1er, so i'm hoping mnet doesn't end up pulling the same shit as last season, but the way things are going so far, i wouldn't be surprised.
so true. i think ricky can do it (get into top 9; keep voting!) and that's why mnet tries almost every episode to catch him slipping. too bad for them that they are dealing with unfazed Rizzy boss baby lol.
so so true but I think that quite a lot of Chinese members have pretty strong ONE PICK fanbase so hopefully they manage to fight their way in! im still so shookt and proud of how mnet doesn't even give wang zi hao any screen time but he manages to go up to top 20 now 🤩
@@joannelee2501 true, but it's more difficult for them in general since koreans as a whole have more say in the vote, with international votes all being lumped together, and unfortunately the korean gp can be quite biased.
can we stop calling it evil editing if the trainees actually said shit that deserved to be shut down? like zhang shuai bo quite literally is the epitome of a groups nightmare. he was seen not wanting parts and was caught on camera saying some shit so i say the editing was fair it’s not evil editing just bc he’s chinese i admit mnet will try to edit people to look bad esp with reactions but cmon you can’t edit words into their mouth
i was not really superised when jay moved down on ranks i knew it as his home performance was not that great and he barely got any screentime since last two episodes its like mnet now does not want jay to debut and i think his spot has been taken by kim taere or gunwook for sure i am 100% sure that gunwook is in top 9 now and i think park hanbin might be on 11 spot and and for 10 position its debatable cause i think hui might have dropped down from top 9 too and i think wang zihao must have moved ranks up
honestly i feel like keita won't make it to the top 9 bc people take him for granted or idk but if he's not there i won't be stanning he is the whole package i'm so afraid
@@bella-zk6sy I mean, my boy is the height of ikon's Jay and svt's woozi- and clearly, height doesn't matter when their skills are top notch. But ofc knetz are bishes://
im inclined to believe its NOT evil editing bc of how the other trainees reacted to zhang shuaibo’s win. there’s probably more to what happened than what we saw though. but tbh, if you cant sing the song, why’d you pick it?? i get that its your fav song but just bc you like the song doesnt mean you’ll perform it well. rather than malicious i think zhang shuaibo was rather foolish. it’s the unfortunate truth that mnet will 100% latch onto any “attitude problems” and turn it into content. the trainees that are smart will make sure theyre on their best behavior on cam, but if you slip up and get filmed doing or saying anything that would sound horrible out of context, you WILL be used for content. regardless of what the truth was concerning the behind the scenes stuff, the fact is that zhang shuaibo is comparatively lacking in every aspect that would make him a kpop idol contender on this show. he wouldve never made it anyway so idk if there’s any point in really dragging him online lol
ah I am so scared for Hui.... who cares about age, he always does his best to make everyone shine, he would be a perfect leader T.T the mom of the group, keep voting for him please guys !
@@FollowNRBH i think that pentagon's hyung line are doing their best to promote ptg rn. i have a feeling that cube is putting ptg aside now-same with clc. besides, I don't think that the debut group is gonna be a permanent group anyways. if this is what hui ventured into isn't it only right that we support his choice throughout the way?
I feel so bad because of butterfly team, for me they did it so fcking good even with the lil' junseo mistake, it was my fav stage from the vocal+dance category, so I'm so dissappointed that they got the last place, they deserved more :(
Imagine if Park Hanbin debuts with the group! The agency wouldn't even need to provide a full time trainer 😄👏 They'd have him! 😄 His work ethic, perseverance, leadership are all so impressive! He's brought 2 teams to amazing results already! And that's all on top of his all other skills like dancing, rapping, charisma, acting... He's got that fire in his eyes 🔥for real!
I would like to give a shoutout to the people on twitter being legitimately upset at Love Killa going to Mcountdown "over Zoom" and encourage them to actually watch the show😭😭
I actually almost teared up when Takuto started crying. Whenever I see someone is upset/starts crying I always get upset or start crying too. Even though I don’t know Takuto or any of the trainees I think it’s nice to feel sympathetic towards them. I wondered if Ricky went to comfort Sungmin but chose not to show that scene.
Zihao is such an amazing performer and has been praised by a lot of trainees and the masters yet mnet keeps hiding him. It's so frustrating to see that :( I think he did so well and the whole team did, honestly. Although I loved zoom (A LOT ACTUALLY) LAW also deserved the win (it's so hard choosing between the two)
Chen Kuan Jui is clearly the most if not one of the most talented contestants in the show... I doubt he'll be eliminated but it's rlly unfort that he prob won't make it, into the top 10 like... ever... which imo he deserves, he's like strangely underrated but thankfully he's fairly popular despite being a bit of an enigma to pretty much all viewers
im just so disappointed that they didn't get to show the entire process of rearranging the song, writing the rap and creating the choreo for tomboy like i love my hao bin but they didn't need more than 3 minutes of screentime showing their innermost feelings. and even in the performance too, they gave hui and gunwook less screentime even though if u watch the fancams there are so many iconic moments made by the two. probably mnet's way of setting aside hui now that they can't evil edit him or use him for views since they're well established now. 😢
although I love love LOVE haobin cp I agree with what you said. there are so many parts in a performance preparation to be aired but msnake is always being strategic and will only choose to air parts which will either positively or negatively impact a trainees reputation. they could have like u said, shown their teamwork or even how groups PROPERLY reconciled and have fun together in the end and the fun process in between where they played tgt to display teamwork but they don't :(((
1:27 I think Seok Hoon might be referring to the fact that Taerae is placing his sound further back into his throat or the back of his head rather than forward into his cheekbones or somewhere in the front; I think Taerae also had some moments in his other performances where his sound might have been stuck somewhere or otherwise not really ringing or resonating as it could have been - Taerae seems to have some sense of support and staying as open as he can otherwise, though - so maybe that’s what Seok Hoon referred to. I didn’t see this part of the episode, so I can’t tell for sure, but that’s my best guess as someone’s who’s been singing as a chorister and as an opera-focused soloist on and off since fourth grade 😅
i call bullshit on zhang shuaibo evil editing sure mnet definitely made it seem a bit worse but the fact doesn’t change that shuaibo didn’t want to do the song anymore and he regretted his decision, that woonggi had to create the choreo alone, that he had to sing the whole chorus because the others didn’t want to, that shuaibo and jinxin said that if they made mistakes the production crew would help them etc. just because mnet hates chinese trainees doesn’t mean that every time a chinese trainee messes up it’s evil editing ffs
as someone who's chinese, i'm literally so conflicted😭like evil editing can't make conflict it can only dramatize it so there def was something, but mnet what are u doing?? ALSO WOONGKI WAS SO ROBBED IDC
I m sorry but sang shuai bo, even if it’s evil editing, I can’t stand him Woogi carried the whole performance and was robbed ( I would be so mad if I was him ) Me too, I m sad because I really wanted to see zoom on mcountdown, it was a fresh and fun performance to watch
maybe yall should stop throwing the "evil edit" thing at every situation... like of course evil editing exists, but when they just show someone being an asshole then that's just what it is. ricky and majingxian isn't a case of "evil editing", they really were both stubborn and weren't communicating and that whole thing brought the mood down for the whole team. i mean if it comes to a point where takuto cries and the team leader just leaves, then it's kinda serious. glad they managed to make thing work in the end tho zhang shuai bo also showed that he was defeated and didn't even wanna try... woongki was kinda mad at him even in the last episode about it. that's not something they edited to make it look like he didn't try. he genuinely didn't at first, and the other members and even the mentors blamed him for it. yall need to look up what evil edit actually is. sometimes trainees are just annoying or wrong 🤷♀ not everything comes down to the edit
what you're not getting is that this kind of stuff probably happens in other groups too and all the boys more or less work through it for the sake of their performance. what is very worrisome and gross is how mnet cameramen /editors always focus on chinese trainees when they have some friction.
woongi and zoom deserved first place. also jingxiang being evil edited like anything and being the only person to stay on beat is so funny lmao, limousine stage was also really good
I don't think people understand or truly appreciate the power of editing. I watched a Netflix kdrama titled, "Be Melodramatic" and there was this scene in episode 3 (timestamp: 31:09-34:15) where one of the leads got invited to a talk show and basically made a ruckus with someone she had beef with in the past on set. The cast along with the director were so stressed out since two grown adults were arguing in that manner on TV. So, in episode 4 (timestamp: 11:10-13:04) when the lead gathered her friends to watch the airing of her guest appearance on the talk show, she (and me) was expecting a sh#t show since she was arguing the whole time. When I tell you I was shook with the post-editing and the final piece the director decided to air. If I didn't watch the prior episode, I would have 100% believed the lead and the lady she hated were best friends catching up! Their conversation sounded sweet and fluid when in actuality it was a lot of editing done...moral of the story, ANYTHING you see and hear from these highly produced and directed shows are storyboards they want the audience to see and believe. If you don't know any of the trainees personally, please refrain from spreading hate. Take both good and bad deeds shown with a grain of salt. It's purely for entertainment.
I hope the limousine team finds an agency as three, the fans who believe everything they see on shows like mnet and vote out of anger or because of popularity or visuals are the reason good talented kpop groups are depleting, there's literally a group on ep 7 that was all dancing and not even singing live yet were still hyped.... On that note my favorite was zoom had everything stage presence and all... second was limousine as artist should be able to tell a story through their voice and they did that. Unfortunately the whole group is rumored to be going home My picks were jay, ji woong, keita and ricky and Krystain, sung hanbin but I'm no longer going to vote based on the people I know and are popular.. Jihoo taught me that lesson, so many talented people gone because of no screen time or visuals or better agency it's sad
honestly just want to highlight Ichan... like as soon as I heard his vocals I LEVITATED like he deserved that first place... its really so sad that the episode was aired so late because the chances of him qualifying are close to zero :(
Just to let y’all know kamden wrote the whole rap verse and directed it for the team ! And he was the main dancer !!!!!! It’s just that mnet hates him so they cut his scenes to zero
I was fine with Chen Kuan Jui’s spicy butterfly rendition lol. He is my favourite child (I’m going to one pick Zhanghao, but he is!) and I’m going to cry when he gets eliminated.
I was really shocked that Woonggi didn’t win 1st place, I enjoyed feel special performance only because of him. Btw can somebody tell me why is Shuaibo so popular? (no offence, I’m just curious) LAW TEAM WINNING 1ST PLACE, OMG I’M SO PROUD OF THEM, THEY TOTALLY SLAYED IT, also can we talk about PHanbin’s amazing leadership skills💅 he definitely deserved 1st place, however the one that got my attention was Zihao, I could literally watch him dancing on the loop. I enjoyed Kamden’s rap part too, although I prefer singing over rapping. If Taerae doesn’t debut I will cry I swear. When it comes to Ricky and Jingxiang I think that at this point Mnet is focused on kicking Jingxiang out, btw seriously they expect us to believe that only g groups members are fighting with each other 😒
woongki deserved to place 1st, he worked sooo hard, he carried the whole performance😭😩
agreee
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He got the 1st place, right?
I KNOW I was so pissed, 100% yelling at TV
@@khushice no, zhang shuai bo got first place
im so sad that i will never see the zoom team perform on mcountdown. putting zoom and law against each other was so horrible for my heart UGH THEY WERE SO GOOD AND WE’LL NEVER SEE THEM TOGETHER AGAIN
they deserved to go onto m countdown so much :(
agreed 😭😭
Agree 😢😢
My opinions on law vs zoom was quite literally law had better dance and zoom had better rap. I couldn’t pick rlly
The way woonggi carried his entire team and didnt place first really ticked me off
EXACTLY
agree
took parts they didnt want and made the choreo yet STILL didnt come first🤦🏽♂️
Jihoo calling out mnet with his rap reminded me of Kotone in girl planet dissing mnet with a rap too
i miss kotone :(
@@anyhao8 She's debuting as a part of Triple S!
@@anyhao8 Me too :(
Krystain too the whole team is so underrated:(
@@oneusforever4344 right!
Trainees like wang zihao have literally been done so dirty. Even the the teachers acknowledge his talents, yet he’s barely been seen anywhere. I only learned about him because I kept hearing and seeing his name from fans. The concept of having 90+ trainees on a show that will only last 12 episodes is just insane. There will never be enough screen time to share everyone’s moments and stories & it sucks because there are sooo many talented trainees that join.
Mnet won't show him. They already have their own line up and they won't risk giving him screentime
... that's sad
Wang Zi Hao has strong fanbase in terms of support system. Dude literally achieves 100% support before any K-Trainee.
You're SO right! If they're going for 98 or 99 trainees then they should debut at least three groups with different concepts and have like 20+ episodes. If not, they should only accept 50 trainees max imo
@@deekshagopal8548 This made me so happy
He has strong fanbase but Mnet is snake 🐍
Limousine made me cry so bad and it's still playing in my head
Please vote for ji hoo 🙏
I was so mad that they didn't show how much zihao contributed to the team, he did half of the choreography, but they only showed yujins, and when zihao showed his choreo they cut the compliments he got from the mentors making it seem that his choreo wasn't good or deserving of praise, on top of that they cut every single time he talks outside of his introduction. A lot of people think zihao doesn't know how to speak Korean, but many trainees have confirmed that he actually can and people who went to the live showcase also confirmed that minhyuk asked questions to zihao, and he responded in Korean, and apparently he was good at it, almost all the times he speaks Korean on the show it gets cut, and on top of that they will cut to reactions from the crowd or the mentors every time he was on the center position, it's clear as day that mnet really doesn't want to showcase zihaos talent, and it's really infuriating.
Also add the fact that they never show his personality, if you see the practice room live stream you will see how cute and funny zihao is, but they never show it.
You took the words out of my mouth. Let's hope we managed to rank him high in the votings :(
wang zihao deserves more recognition for his talent and hard work
I think he’ll make the top 9 when it’s one pick voting a bit similar to hiyyih they have strong fan bases
NOT HALF! MORE THAN HALF! Yujin only did the first part. The rest was Zi Hao!!!
law was great but zoom deserved to go to m countdown, it was the best stage overall I CANT STOP REWATCHING
i absolutely loved ZOOM
Same here idk how many times ive watched zoom stage
same!
Keita’s rap is imbedded to my brain I literally can’t stop rapping it myself
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the conflict between the rush hour team felt real tho, even cnetz confirmed that it was not a mistranslation. Tbf ricky didn't even get evil edited because he kept quiet and there was nothing to evil edit, however jingxiang kept picking up unnecessary fights with the teammates
true ricky knew what mnet wanted so he kept quiet haha
jingxiang was just anxious because his rank was low and he wanted to put all in for the performance for them to all work hard, but they were going too slowly. the editing later of him and ricky on the rehearsal was so forced too
@@anyhao8 ikr lol he sees thru them
I felt like Ricky and Krystin were just like “smile and wave boys, just smile and wave”
@@Oliviakhouk mnet didn’t even let them in peace😭
Zihao was done so dirty despite choreographing one of the best dance breaks i have ever seen and being objectively the best dancer there too. It’s like they tried to make it seem like Yujin made up the whole choreo … AND they kept cutting to the audience during Zihao’s center parts, mnet really doesn’t want Zihao to debut it seems
That's why we gotta keep voting for him and promoting him, the lineup NEEDS a strong dancer like him, not to mention he has great vocals
Idgaf, Zhanghao deserved that top spot and he needs to debut. Please vote.
In the live broadcast, I was also surprised that Zhang Hao got first place too because he did not have enough screentime in the performance.😢
But then I watched each their individual fancams and said "damn now I know why he got first place." He really deserved the first place. He definitely captured everyones attention there. His natural stage presence is insane.🎉
frrr
@@dcans3102 his talent and stage presence was too much to ignore
@@dcans3102 his talent and stage presence was too much to ignore
@@dcans3102 he could manage about his confidence, he got less line but he made it perfect, he also gave an idea to the choreo after got his confidence, he deserve got higher point :)
im sorry but there was no evil editing when shuaibo was bad mouthing woonggi. it has been confirmed by chinese citizens, so it was not evil editing this time.
Mnet Is the boy who cried wolf they are right this time but no believes them that their fault for doing all that to innocent trainees & now this time wasn’t evil edited & no one believes them shuaibo is getting hate now
I agree the moment I saw that when Woongki did all the job, not even grateful 💀
yeah chinese is my first language and shuaibo had bad attitude. he did pretty well in the final performance but in the practice, from what mnet showed of him, it seemed like he practically gave up
@@jeongminfordebut i will say that in the second clip when he's talking to cjx, it seems like he's talking shit about the producers for not giving them translators because when he said "the producers will help us" while in the dorms, i'm curious what he means by help because he was on ywy where the pds helped TRANSLATE for foreign trainees (something mnet is known for not doing, even during girls planet)
for context, i'm fluent in mando ^^ i'm from beijing hehe :3
bobby's 7 minutes of screentime fr had me rolling why was he there i felt so bad
he probably spoke too nice and positive, he wasn't harsh enough cos they seem to only want those kind of responses on the show ig 😅 i remember them making that one dramatic zoom when they asked for his opinion and he only spoke calm and nice, had me rolling on the floor 😂
Please keep voting for Ricky guys! We need to show mnet that we like the chinese trainees and we ARE NOT supporting their sinophobia
then vote for jingxiang too
@@newshot_ I am actually:) voted for him for the last week ig
@@Didi-bf3ge keep voting for him with ricky too plz he is chinese too don't fall for the sinophobia
@@Didi-bf3ge Mnet really tried to evil edit Ricky, but he was so calm the whole situation. Even when that Jixiang guy got mad. Seriously the last episode so many chinese trainees got evil edited.
We are not, but Koreans are...
They votes count a lot... mnest has already their line up selected and they will manipulate koreans to vote for them. As always
I just want Wang Zihao, Lee Dongyeol, Woongki, Krystian, Anthonny, Cong, SHanbin, Hui and even Gunwook to know they were worth to be called Best Performer too.
the fact that hui & gunwook had absolutely NO screen time this episode is really telling about who they want in the final top 9… 😬
Oh no, mnet definitely wants Gunwook. Its obvious since day 1. Too much obvious.
Also Gunwook has has more screentimw than 80% of trainees. This says a lot. Maybe he didn't have this time but look at other episodes... too much screentime.
Some of trainees appeared in thw show only for their faces reaction and that's it.
I feel like Hui is gonna be in the Top 9. I mean, think about it... Every single survival show that had a veteran participating has had the chance to debut. And also, everyone is gonna freak out if Mnet plans to eliminate an experienced man.
@@aloe5107 Mnet and Jellyfish has a secret relationship for sure... They focused more on Kim Dayeon on GP999, and history is repeating again in Boys Planet.
kinda expected this gonna happen, centerz is an icon, and when they are in one team (+bestie) totally double kill for screentime... as for Gunwook, he was highlighted in previous mission Kill This Love and got many hates, maybe this time to cold down a bit and expecting for the next mission.
The good thing is, both Dayeon and Gunwook are talented! At least in this case they are not favoring untalented people just because of secret deals with companies..
for me zoom was the best performance of boys planet so far, they absolutely killed it!! and i LOVED limousine too, they're all so talented, i'm really sad knowing they probably get eliminated :/
WANG ZIHAO RICKY CHEN KUANJUI ALL OUTSOLD. also guys please remember that evil editing isn't just what mnet chooses to edit, it's also what they choose to leave out... yes jingxiang and shuaibo both acted unideally, but in such a stressful time-constrained situation, conflicts are bound to happen, so why is it only chinese trainees that end up catching the flack? there's no way it's a coincidence. sinophobia is deeply rooted in not only knetizens but international stans' mindsets, and i need some of you to get your heads out of your asses and recognize it.
note: for shuaibo's issue, someone who allegedly was present during shooting said that what shuaibo said abt woonggi was actually directed towards mnet and their refusal to translate for international trainees. ofc i can't confirm anything, but that would make a lot more sense than shuaibo openly bitching on camera about his teammate and roommate who he clearly supports (if the survivor broadcast was any indication). i fully believe that it's stupid woonggi didn't get first. even so, it's completely fucked if mnet really chose to manipulate the footage that way.
EXACTLY. thank you for highlighting this!!
I agree, I don't think people understand or truly appreciate the power of editing. I watched a Netflix kdrama titled, "Be Melodramatic" and there was this scene in episode 3 (timestamp: 31:09-34:15) where one of the leads got invited to a talk show and basically made a ruckus with someone she had beef with in the past on set. The cast along with the director were so stressed out since two grown adults were arguing in that manner on TV. So, in episode 4 (timestamp: 11:10-13:04) when the lead gathered her friends to watch the airing of her guest appearance on the talk show, she (and me) was expecting a sh#t show since she was arguing the whole time. When I tell you I was shook with the post-editing and the final piece the director decided to air. If I didn't watch the prior episode, I would have 100% believed the lead and the lady she hated were best friends catching up! Their conversation sounded sweet and fluid when in actuality it was a lot of editing done...moral of the story, ANYTHING you see and hear from these highly produced and directed shows are storyboards they want the audience to see and believe. If you don't know any of the trainees personally, please refrain from spreading hate. Take both good and bad deeds shown with a grain of salt. It's purely for entertainment.
I wasn’t surprised when they announced Jay is 12th. He didn’t get the benefit once again, he didn’t get a storyline, he didn’t stand out in Home. I still think him choosing Home was a big mistake, however, if he’s in Over me, he’ll go viral for sure but he has my votes anyway.
Zoom and Limousine are my favourite stages, I was rooting for these boys🥲
Apparently he was sick during the home performance mayb that’s why he didn’t stand out. ALSO yes zoom and limousine were THE BEST❤❤❤
it’s such a waste that jay was sick. i really hope he’s in over me with zhang hao and keita!
@@jeongminfordebut OMG same, ur taste is IMMACULATE, all three are part of my picks!
@@irina0419 zhang hao keita and jay are my top 3 picks!! i’m praying that we’ll be able to see them perform the same song at least once and over me is perfect for them!
@@jeongminfordebut Hopefully they’ll perform lots of songs together after they all get into the final lineup :) but also over me coz they all suit that song !!
Law team did well,they worked really really hard like wang zihao commented on his fancam that this time he did even more hard work than he usual does(we already know the strict trainer aka best leader parkhanbin made them practice alot) but rap part I felt like it didn't reach expectations and felt lacking but have to agree that this teams dance was over all the best and this team really did work hard but according to overal performance I feel like zoom deserved better score....I'm kinda bittersweet about it cuz both keita and wangzihao are my fav and yedam hanbin kamden wang zihao yujin need to get benefits so they rank higher or atleast for yedam so he is in safe zone but it put park hyunbeen wumuti Ollie in danger and also haruto keita would've ranked higher
And msnake cut whenever wangzihao got the minimum screen time is making my blood boil😭😑
wang zihao worked really hard :(
If you look carefully in his fancam(wangzihao) his legs weaken at somepoint 😢(I think it's after effect for doing that knee knock step as they have also practiced it many and many times😢)
my two favorites are also keita and Zihao
i never noticed taerae too much before but he pierced my heart with that performances 😭😭😭 lets debut taerae!!
Yes. Taerae for main vocal.
I’m serious if Haobin dosen’t end debuting together like Xiaorina I gonna cry so much
How many time I said, I proud with zhanghao TTTT
He prove, he is genius and pro
Shuaibo is foul for all that, honestly the more I find out about woonggi the more I really want to support him through everything because that dude's personality is just chefs kiss
Not sure if it was evil editing but my gosh… zhuangshuaibo…the attitude, the pushing of responsibility, thinking that he didn’t need to try hard since the producers could just edit the bad parts out…like 🤦🏻♀️everyone else is literally fighting for their lives to stay on the show and ur here spreading negativity. I truly hope this was just a case of evil editing
chen kuan jui in butterfly has me in a chokehold rn pls- if he gets eliminated im gonna riot i swear 😭
how ma jingxiang went from the chosen one for the promotional posters to being mnet spawn for evil editing has me dead
its not funny its sad
@@newshot_ i know, mnet did him dirty, he was supposed to be one of the top g group contestants but it’s too late now
Hi! I’m so confused ㅜㅜ The one with krystian and kamden before was obv. evil editing but this one with mjx I’m not sure what to believe in. It was the 2nd time that it happened and with the other trainees’ testimony as well. Can you give me any explanation as to why you think it’s not evil editing, please? Bc I’m def one of those who got fooled if it is indeed just mnet’s play ㅠㅠ
@@nabinarratives def evil editing. you can tell the boy is obviously stressed and is trying to express himself. these cameramen are locked on chinese trainees to get their dramatic storylines - awful.
He was being disrespectful, don’t get how that’s evil editing?
my emotion throughout ep7: 📈😌📉😭📈😆📉😐
like I was excited to see LAW but then Rush Hour whole thing was so awkward and tense but then we got those diss raps from Limousine then that sad part with Woongki but that hype Tomboy team like WTF HAPPENED
i agree with 2:11. also maybe because theres quite a lot of yuehua trainees on the top right now and they don’t wanna raise suspicions on company partnerships again 👀
I felt so bad for Woongki, he carried the team and the performance and now he's one of the three candidates for 28 rank :(
Zhang hao it boy fr
that's my pookie 😙😙
@@anyhao8 he is so slayful frfr 🤭
this ep was filled with great performances, and im so happy camden was happy in his team, and yoojin finally got his confidence back, #bringkeitatomcountdown, and law devoured.
#bringkeitatomcountdown PLEASE
ZIHAO AND HIS CHOREO IS SO CRAZY
Please vote for jay, dudes team always miss the win very closely and he never gets benefit points😭 he deserves to debut, let’s get him in the debut team
Literally same with keita too? Where's the luck for these 2 talented boys? TT
pls i woke up early to watch the survival announcement to find out my one pick dropped out of the top 9 😃😃😃😭😭😭 i was crying when they announced it was him and when mnet just ended it i sobbed even harder i can't do this boys planet thing anymore 😭😭😭
but jay got a whole episode for himself tho, slayyyyy
So the announcement is seperate from episode 7 and 8, or did I mis the last part of ep7?
@@Luca3538... no mnet had a livestream for 30 minutes on march 17th after episode 7, just to announce one trainee. the rest of the elimination will show on episode 8, next week.
nooo omg :(
omg, i was so shocked to heard the news lol and people now being so happy bc he dropped out is so unnecessary :// like he deserve the top 9. right??
hopefully zoom team members can get a win next round…that stage was ICONIC
Zhang Hao main slayer, like i really need him in that top 3 or first place. im rooting for him, Matthew and Taerae hard
5:10 I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS TEAM WAS LAST OUT OF VOCAL/DANCE like I watched kuanjui's fancam and idk, just the song and the way he performs had me actually emotional... like he's such an amazing performer truly
If he gets eliminated it's going to become a permanent personality trait of mine I hope he makes it
I gotta add something on shuai bo's attitude
As someone who can understand Chinese, what he says is absolutely disrespectful to woongki
(he kinda used his privilege of speaking chinese since woongki cannot understand
Him not giving all his effort in the mentor review section is unable to be an evil editing
yes his performance might be enlarged to further make him look evil
But in the end, he is the one that did these actions that made mnet had the chance to edit it
He even sang the lyrics wrong during the final performance
So this is why the people were so mad at him
ohhh ok this makes sense. i understand some chinese but i'm not completely fluent so thank you for your input!
apparently mnet cut it out that shuai bo said it abt the mentors because they didnt explain something?? if he did say it about woongki i would be mad though
@lavistic to what I understand is that shuai bo said that of course they do will bad in performance because "he" didn't explain the choreography and changed it without asking their opinion (he is talking to the other China trainee)
from what I understand the "he" is referring to woongki, so he kinda took advantage of using Chinese since woongki cannot understand it.
@@NSouka1123 ohhhh ok thank u
@@NSouka1123 He's so rude, did he really get ranked 1? Poor WoongKi, I thought the audience was voting well until feel special
i'm glad you're calling out the mnet evil editing, because i saw SO many people denying it in this episode because the trainees were the ones displaying the 'bad attitudes' and doing it to themselves. i feel like people don't understand that evil editing isn't just literally putting words in the trainees mouths, it's also choosing to showcase these negative moments of SPECIFICALLY chinese trainees and spend little to no time showing these trainees pushing through these moments and coming out the other end of it like they do with the korean trainees. and it ONLY ever happens with chinese trainees. the same exact thing happened in girls planet, as well. and now everyone's turning on these members, just like mnet wanted. it's disappointing to see the viewers fall for it EVERY single time, and then continue to deny it being mnet's fault.
and i ADORE zhang hao, and he absolutely deserves an even higher placement if you ask me, but you can tell that mnet's making him their xiating of last season. they want him in the group, like her, but i GUARANTEE if he manages to take 1st at any point, mnet will make sure he doesn't end up there (though i'm honestly okay with either him or hanbin ending up as center). i'm hoping other chinese trainees can push their way into the top and stay there, because it was sad to see only xiaoting make it into kep1er, so i'm hoping mnet doesn't end up pulling the same shit as last season, but the way things are going so far, i wouldn't be surprised.
i agree it seems like mnet really wants zhang hao to debut but i doubt they'll let him get first in the end
so true. i think ricky can do it (get into top 9; keep voting!) and that's why mnet tries almost every episode to catch him slipping. too bad for them that they are dealing with unfazed Rizzy boss baby lol.
so so true but I think that quite a lot of Chinese members have pretty strong ONE PICK fanbase so hopefully they manage to fight their way in! im still so shookt and proud of how mnet doesn't even give wang zi hao any screen time but he manages to go up to top 20 now 🤩
@@anyhao8 yeah /: i have no doubt that he'd debut, but i could see them pulling something snakey if he moves up 'too high'
@@joannelee2501 true, but it's more difficult for them in general since koreans as a whole have more say in the vote, with international votes all being lumped together, and unfortunately the korean gp can be quite biased.
can we stop calling it evil editing if the trainees actually said shit that deserved to be shut down? like zhang shuai bo quite literally is the epitome of a groups nightmare. he was seen not wanting parts and was caught on camera saying some shit so i say the editing was fair it’s not evil editing just bc he’s chinese
i admit mnet will try to edit people to look bad esp with reactions but cmon you can’t edit words into their mouth
i was not really superised when jay moved down on ranks i knew it as his home performance was not that great and he barely got any screentime since last two episodes its like mnet now does not want jay to debut and i think his spot has been taken by kim taere or gunwook for sure i am 100% sure that gunwook is in top 9 now and i think park hanbin might be on 11 spot and and for 10 position its debatable cause i think hui might have dropped down from top 9 too and i think wang zihao must have moved ranks up
LAW was good, but ZOOM deserved to be on MCountdown too🥺
Hao and Sung Bin. Please debut together ❤
honestly i feel like keita won't make it to the top 9 bc people take him for granted or idk but if he's not there i won't be stanning he is the whole package i'm so afraid
i agree, he has it all. sadly, i don't think he'll be chosen bc of... height :(
@@bella-zk6sy I mean, my boy is the height of ikon's Jay and svt's woozi- and clearly, height doesn't matter when their skills are top notch
@@bella-zk6sy I mean, my boy is the height of ikon's Jay and svt's woozi- and clearly, height doesn't matter when their skills are top notch. But ofc knetz are bishes://
I feel so bad for Keita... I remember seeing him in "Treasure box" and now he's on Boys planet and might not debut ;(
I'm voting for Chen Kuan Jui all the time
and I don't even stan him
he's just THAT talented kind and precious
Cheers to m🐍 s hard work to hide Wang Zihao- 😶
And his fancam got 3rd highest views after Haobin❤
zhang hao deserved that first place ❤️🔥
YES! Wang 👑 Zihao was AMAZING!
I don't get why he's so underrated, when he's probably the best dancer on the show
im inclined to believe its NOT evil editing bc of how the other trainees reacted to zhang shuaibo’s win. there’s probably more to what happened than what we saw though. but tbh, if you cant sing the song, why’d you pick it?? i get that its your fav song but just bc you like the song doesnt mean you’ll perform it well.
rather than malicious i think zhang shuaibo was rather foolish. it’s the unfortunate truth that mnet will 100% latch onto any “attitude problems” and turn it into content. the trainees that are smart will make sure theyre on their best behavior on cam, but if you slip up and get filmed doing or saying anything that would sound horrible out of context, you WILL be used for content.
regardless of what the truth was concerning the behind the scenes stuff, the fact is that zhang shuaibo is comparatively lacking in every aspect that would make him a kpop idol contender on this show. he wouldve never made it anyway so idk if there’s any point in really dragging him online lol
ah I am so scared for Hui.... who cares about age, he always does his best to make everyone shine, he would be a perfect leader T.T the mom of the group, keep voting for him please guys !
You want him to leave behind Pentagon? Wtf
he already has a group. i'm honestly not sure why he's in this show.
@@FollowNRBH i think that pentagon's hyung line are doing their best to promote ptg rn. i have a feeling that cube is putting ptg aside now-same with clc. besides, I don't think that the debut group is gonna be a permanent group anyways. if this is what hui ventured into isn't it only right that we support his choice throughout the way?
Him being in that show is enough to tell you what he wants. As a fan, just support his decisions.
Pretty sure pentagon members also supported him on social media
I bekieve pentagons contract expires this year too so maybe they disband...idk
Vote for Keita WangZihao & Zhang Hao
Limousine was my favourite performance of them all, the synergy they gave was off the roof
“BUTTERFLY WITH RIZZ” I WHEEZED
I feel so bad because of butterfly team, for me they did it so fcking good even with the lil' junseo mistake, it was my fav stage from the vocal+dance category, so I'm so dissappointed that they got the last place, they deserved more :(
I cry a river too😢
Imagine if Park Hanbin debuts with the group! The agency wouldn't even need to provide a full time trainer 😄👏 They'd have him! 😄 His work ethic, perseverance, leadership are all so impressive! He's brought 2 teams to amazing results already! And that's all on top of his all other skills like dancing, rapping, charisma, acting... He's got that fire in his eyes 🔥for real!
I would like to give a shoutout to the people on twitter being legitimately upset at Love Killa going to Mcountdown "over Zoom" and encourage them to actually watch the show😭😭
gunwook is a great singer too ! on wild idol he even did a ballad im glad people can see his versatility 🎉
I also cannot wait for "Aces" to go show their stuff on MCountdown!! They absolutely KILLED their stage, and blew the rest of the teams away.
I actually almost teared up when Takuto started crying. Whenever I see someone is upset/starts crying I always get upset or start crying too. Even though I don’t know Takuto or any of the trainees I think it’s nice to feel sympathetic towards them.
I wondered if Ricky went to comfort Sungmin but chose not to show that scene.
that ricky theory sounds so valid to me Mnet better keep away from the C trainees or I'm throwing hands
Bobby probably still has more scream time as a rap mentor than pH-1
was waiting for this im glad you still make these videos it got me into boys planet
omg yesss thank you!!
Wang zi hao ❤ such a gem. Mnet stop hiding him please. You need this kind of talent in your top 9
Zihao is such an amazing performer and has been praised by a lot of trainees and the masters yet mnet keeps hiding him. It's so frustrating to see that :( I think he did so well and the whole team did, honestly. Although I loved zoom (A LOT ACTUALLY) LAW also deserved the win (it's so hard choosing between the two)
Chen Kuan Jui is clearly the most if not one of the most talented contestants in the show... I doubt he'll be eliminated but it's rlly unfort that he prob won't make it, into the top 10 like... ever... which imo he deserves, he's like strangely underrated but thankfully he's fairly popular despite being a bit of an enigma to pretty much all viewers
im just so disappointed that they didn't get to show the entire process of rearranging the song, writing the rap and creating the choreo for tomboy like i love my hao bin but they didn't need more than 3 minutes of screentime showing their innermost feelings. and even in the performance too, they gave hui and gunwook less screentime even though if u watch the fancams there are so many iconic moments made by the two. probably mnet's way of setting aside hui now that they can't evil edit him or use him for views since they're well established now. 😢
although I love love LOVE haobin cp I agree with what you said. there are so many parts in a performance preparation to be aired but msnake is always being strategic and will only choose to air parts which will either positively or negatively impact a trainees reputation. they could have like u said, shown their teamwork or even how groups PROPERLY reconciled and have fun together in the end and the fun process in between where they played tgt to display teamwork but they don't :(((
@@joannelee2501 i agree, even hao is my ultiimate pick but it will be better if mnet gave other trainee screentime
1:27 I think Seok Hoon might be referring to the fact that Taerae is placing his sound further back into his throat or the back of his head rather than forward into his cheekbones or somewhere in the front; I think Taerae also had some moments in his other performances where his sound might have been stuck somewhere or otherwise not really ringing or resonating as it could have been - Taerae seems to have some sense of support and staying as open as he can otherwise, though - so maybe that’s what Seok Hoon referred to. I didn’t see this part of the episode, so I can’t tell for sure, but that’s my best guess as someone’s who’s been singing as a chorister and as an opera-focused soloist on and off since fourth grade 😅
ohhh ok that's very interesting! thanks for the info :D
Zoom rlly deserved to go to m countdown and woonggi deserved 1st like why :(
i call bullshit on zhang shuaibo evil editing
sure mnet definitely made it seem a bit worse but the fact doesn’t change that shuaibo didn’t want to do the song anymore and he regretted his decision, that woonggi had to create the choreo alone, that he had to sing the whole chorus because the others didn’t want to, that shuaibo and jinxin said that if they made mistakes the production crew would help them etc.
just because mnet hates chinese trainees doesn’t mean that every time a chinese trainee messes up it’s evil editing ffs
i click this video because ZHANG HAO❤
law team is the other salute team and zoom team is the other ice cream team lol
as someone who's chinese, i'm literally so conflicted😭like evil editing can't make conflict it can only dramatize it so there def was something, but mnet what are u doing?? ALSO WOONGKI WAS SO ROBBED IDC
i totally feel that i'm chinese as well!
I m sorry but sang shuai bo, even if it’s evil editing, I can’t stand him
Woogi carried the whole performance and was robbed ( I would be so mad if I was him )
Me too, I m sad because I really wanted to see zoom on mcountdown, it was a fresh and fun performance to watch
maybe yall should stop throwing the "evil edit" thing at every situation... like of course evil editing exists, but when they just show someone being an asshole then that's just what it is.
ricky and majingxian isn't a case of "evil editing", they really were both stubborn and weren't communicating and that whole thing brought the mood down for the whole team. i mean if it comes to a point where takuto cries and the team leader just leaves, then it's kinda serious. glad they managed to make thing work in the end tho
zhang shuai bo also showed that he was defeated and didn't even wanna try... woongki was kinda mad at him even in the last episode about it. that's not something they edited to make it look like he didn't try. he genuinely didn't at first, and the other members and even the mentors blamed him for it.
yall need to look up what evil edit actually is. sometimes trainees are just annoying or wrong 🤷♀ not everything comes down to the edit
what you're not getting is that this kind of stuff probably happens in other groups too and all the boys more or less work through it for the sake of their performance. what is very worrisome and gross is how mnet cameramen /editors always focus on chinese trainees when they have some friction.
lmao the bobby situation is so funny to me 😭😭
i was really rooting for the Zoom team too. I really wanted to see it on M Countdown. LIke dont get me wrong Law was amazing, but Zoom is iconic atp.
woongi and zoom deserved first place. also jingxiang being evil edited like anything and being the only person to stay on beat is so funny lmao, limousine stage was also really good
ZHANGHAO MAIN SLAYER
I love how everyone is calling this debut group bep1er 😂😂
I don't think people understand or truly appreciate the power of editing. I watched a Netflix kdrama titled, "Be Melodramatic" and there was this scene in episode 3 (timestamp: 31:09-34:15) where one of the leads got invited to a talk show and basically made a ruckus with someone she had beef with in the past on set. The cast along with the director were so stressed out since two grown adults were arguing in that manner on TV. So, in episode 4 (timestamp: 11:10-13:04) when the lead gathered her friends to watch the airing of her guest appearance on the talk show, she (and me) was expecting a sh#t show since she was arguing the whole time. When I tell you I was shook with the post-editing and the final piece the director decided to air. If I didn't watch the prior episode, I would have 100% believed the lead and the lady she hated were best friends catching up! Their conversation sounded sweet and fluid when in actuality it was a lot of editing done...moral of the story, ANYTHING you see and hear from these highly produced and directed shows are storyboards they want the audience to see and believe. If you don't know any of the trainees personally, please refrain from spreading hate. Take both good and bad deeds shown with a grain of salt. It's purely for entertainment.
I hope the limousine team finds an agency as three, the fans who believe everything they see on shows like mnet and vote out of anger or because of popularity or visuals are the reason good talented kpop groups are depleting, there's literally a group on ep 7 that was all dancing and not even singing live yet were still hyped.... On that note my favorite was zoom had everything stage presence and all... second was limousine as artist should be able to tell a story through their voice and they did that. Unfortunately the whole group is rumored to be going home
My picks were jay, ji woong, keita and ricky and Krystain, sung hanbin but I'm no longer going to vote based on the people I know and are popular.. Jihoo taught me that lesson, so many talented people gone because of no screen time or visuals or better agency it's sad
I hope the people angry for woongi continue voting for him in the next rounds of he survives.i don't think I can watch the show without him.
butterfly with rizz😭
Anthonny, Jihoo, Krystian my boisss😭😭 the lyrics and emotion too bad mnet doesn't want them to debut and never gave them screentime
the clip of jiwoong grabbing matthew's face after they won is sooo cuteee 😭 also i wish we saw more of hui and gunwook
honestly just want to highlight Ichan... like as soon as I heard his vocals I LEVITATED like he deserved that first place... its really so sad that the episode was aired so late because the chances of him qualifying are close to zero :(
And i also do not care what anyone says. Tomboy ate. Chewed down very hard. Like very top tier performance
Just to let y’all know kamden wrote the whole rap verse and directed it for the team ! And he was the main dancer !!!!!! It’s just that mnet hates him so they cut his scenes to zero
Not you trying to stick of for Zhang Zhuaibo when he clearly has no will to carry on😂😭
Haobin ✨😭😭
im acc glad they picked zhanghao! his rank is pretty low despite being a centre with hanbin. hopefully the benefits raises him higher.
I was fine with Chen Kuan Jui’s spicy butterfly rendition lol. He is my favourite child (I’m going to one pick Zhanghao, but he is!) and I’m going to cry when he gets eliminated.
I think it could be Gunwook that took jays spot 👀 maybe jongwoo but jongwoo didnt get any benefit so it would be crazy
Or Taerae
@@alu2330 take Rae is already in the top 9
@@ayezichi he wasn’t last time
Zhang Hao slay 🛐
zhang hao is crazy omg
I was really shocked that Woonggi didn’t win 1st place, I enjoyed feel special performance only because of him. Btw can somebody tell me why is Shuaibo so popular? (no offence, I’m just curious) LAW TEAM WINNING 1ST PLACE, OMG I’M SO PROUD OF THEM, THEY TOTALLY SLAYED IT, also can we talk about PHanbin’s amazing leadership skills💅 he definitely deserved 1st place, however the one that got my attention was Zihao, I could literally watch him dancing on the loop. I enjoyed Kamden’s rap part too, although I prefer singing over rapping. If Taerae doesn’t debut I will cry I swear. When it comes to Ricky and Jingxiang I think that at this point Mnet is focused on kicking Jingxiang out, btw seriously they expect us to believe that only g groups members are fighting with each other 😒
i think I heard somewhere that Koreans are into shuaibo and cai jin xin's visuals hmm
@@joannelee2501 Thank you
Jay deserve so much to be in the top9 with his vocals and stage presence, I m going to vote every day for him 💪
Girl same!!!!🫶🏼💪🏼
Y'all vote for Zihao
Also I am glad less people are falling for MNET's evil editing of the Chinese contestants
4:27 Butterfly with rizz 🤣 And the fact that it’s such a sentimental song