No cuz LITERALLY its so pressing...like what is with these korean entertainment programs hating on Chinese ppl for no effing reason *insert cardi what was the reason* 💀💀💀
You can't tell me people who have trained for years, sing as bad as the guys who performed HOT. That was 100% mnet telling them to do it. It's the Chinese twins situation from GP999 all over again. Either mnet has planned a redemption/improvement arc specific for these two guys or they are not considered for the final line up, so mnet wants to get rid of them.
I swear im not defending mnet ik theyre full of shit, but there's lot of idols who sings that bad without all the autotune and backup vocals 🤚 😶, so it's not a surprise if trainees sings that bad
@@annanowak9620 That was attached to the rumour with all the fake demo songs. You can't tell me the YWY boys picked Call Me Baby themselves when it's out of all their vocal ranges and they only have 1 vocalist on their team in the first place!
For those who understand Mandarin, Ollie was also funny cos when he spoke English he's super fluent and Americanized so everyone assumed he would have an accent when speaking Mandarin. And he did, except it was like a thick regional accent. Like, imagine some Korean American kid with a white parent speaking with heavy satoori. He is definitely an interesting kid.
I feel so sad for Na Kamden. Bruh wrote his own rap, and pulled through with his perfect dance skills. Idk they really did him dirty by cutting all of his parts in their performance.
Honestly idk why Mnet edited it like that. They could've gonna the "this team is super impressive" route and I think the performance would've come across better on screen. Kamden's rap was really good as were Jay's adlibs during that part, it was the highlight of their performance! One thing's for sure: if Kamden survives this elimination he's gonna kill it at position evaluation.
Actually when the boy in blue silk shirt is singing, our favourite judge makes his iconic face and in the backgroud you can see THE BOY IN A BLUE SHIT SITTING IN THE AUDIENCE!! my man is literally in two places at once! MNETs editing team FAILED THEM ALREADY IN THE FIRST EPISODE
It's crazy how easily we can see who Mnet is hoping gets into the group. It's sad because some people they cut out, like Kamden, did really well when you look at the full audition clip. However, the likelihood of people that don't get screen time in the beginning getting into the group is low, as we saw from GP999.
ikr...at first im so happy when jay hv so much screentime (he's one of my pick) but when i realized kamden hv no screentime (like literally no screentime) i was so sad bcz kamden is one of my pick too 😭😭
From spoilers previously, I heard that there was quite a difference in performances and skills of K group from G group. After watching the whole episode, I’m so rooting for the G group. They have really unique skills and personalities. This whole Hui thing has me in an emotional mess. He is just so precious and I hope he achieves all he hopes for on here.
The G team is really like a breath of fresh air cuz it was so obvi how diverse their vibes and concepts, the K group just feels repetitive to me idk. I'm rooting for G group memebers! I hope that this season beats the predicted 6:3 ratio of foreign and korean members (optimistically naive ik) Matthew, Hanbin and Hao, let's debut!!
after hearing some of the chinese girls planet contestants say that they weren’t allowed to pick their own audition song and that mnet would choose for them so that some contestants would have to sing songs out of their ranges to make others look better... i’ve sworn off produce shows forever cos i know the audience manipulation is going to be terrific. thanks for covering this 😭 i’m gonna be watching ur vids instead of going through hour long episodes for a show that probably has the debut lineup already decided 💀
We have to remember that mnet already has a concept and debut song at least partially ready. So they need contestants who would fit with the concept but also make a well rounded group. I would guess they picked around 20 to 25 guys who would fit their final line-up and these guys will be pushed. Basically like contestant no. 1 would be the perfect main vocalist for mnet, but if he doesn't make it, they have contestants no.28 and no.84 as substitute (random numbers). And they did that for every position and picked their faves.
this. This is literally the same as I-Land. I remember Iland having only 24 contestants, yet i didnt see half of them the whole show. Nicolas, Hanbin, Seon and etc. weren’t in the show for like 90% of its entirety
@tuananhdang7385 It was also obvious in the final, when the producers chose Sunoo over K. They were both very popular with the audience, but Sunoo was chosen cause he fit the concept of Enhypen better. I personally would actually have done the same, even when K was my favorite and I didn't know he would get a second chance at that time. Sunoo is just better with Enhypen and K better with &team.
That last hui moment is giving nu’est in produce 101. When nu’est performed, everyone began to feel emotional/started crying as they saw them give it their all. I have high feelings it’ll be just like that for hui
When Hui came, everyone was like "Ariana what are you doing here?" Literally saw a comment that said "Hui being on Boys Planet is like Beyonce being on American Idol" and I couldn't agree more Mnet might be sneaky and satanic, but the moment Hui sat on that #1 seat, they knew that they can't fuck with him, or else... as Hui sang... ✨Keep watching me shut it down✨ 5:57 Honestly this part makes me miss Girls Planet because despite being from three nations, each cell had the K-C-J system and we could see more amazing interactions. Once again, Gunwook is so fucking talented (just like Kim Dayeon). But it can be hard for fans to support if Mnet starts giving him an unfair amount of screentime. 16:10 Omgg bruh this... Mnet posted this performance's videos on Instagram and the amount of shocked comments... 16:22 Takuto. I honestly think that he's too young for this. 18:35 Mnet hasn't received their extra pocket money yet from you-know-who
I think from screentime of just Episode 1 mnet wants: 1. Park Gunwook 2. Zhang Hao 3. Sung Hanbin 4. Lee Daeul 5. Takuto 6. Han Yujin 7. Kim Gyuvin 8. Jay 9. next week (this isnt being biased i dont vote for half of these people, its just my observation) I 100% think mnet doesnt want Hui in the lineup and is just using him for reactions and views..
Takuto and Lee daeul are just there as fillers honestly, they give them a lot of screen time but they don’t highlight them in as good light as the others And although they don’t necessarily want hui, they pretty much know he’s gonna make it so I’m thinking this is mnets ideal lineup: 1. Sung Hanbin 2. Park Gunwook 3. Han Yujin 4. jay 5. Zhang hao 6. Lee Hotaek 7. 8. 9. There’s also some they’re considering like haruto, Ricky, gyuvin and this is just those shown in the first ep
i literally got deja vu with hui because history literally repeated themselves 😭 in the first season, yujin was the "veteran" trainee who joined a survival show with alot of youngsters with a sob story alongside. so when I watched the bp999 episode and saw hui, i thought that this was the exact thing happening. it's funnier how both of them are from cube... 👀
@@zhongli8991 I mean he did said that his gp work got rejected A LOT after his military service, and he felt useless as the leader so he thinks going on this show will help the group to be in people's eyes again
So sad that they skipped over Winnie's Kokobop performance since he actually has a really nice and stable vocal tone, but instead just focused on how he dropped out of college to participate to become an idol. He's so underrated, I hope he gets more attention after this!
12:41 actually, I'm surprised nobody is weirded out by the way Mnet is pushing Yujin at us, like... bro is 15. Yes, it's nice to see there's such talented boys in the making, but side eye if he ends up in the final line up. Same for any of the other trainees that is younger than 17. But that's just me tho.
But that's also kinda unfair tho, if u guys didn't like trainees who is younger than 17 to be in final lineup just cuz they r younger if they deserve it. I mean it's their choice to be a trainee & chose this path. Even if they eliminate, they still continue to be a trainee & pushing hard to debut. Nothing change. The same as newjeans & 4th gp generation. Lots of them debut under 17, so why can't ppl support trainee who r under 17 in this show just cuz they r younger?
Like yujin, I agree he need lots of improving in his singing ability but if he works hard in the upcoming ep & get a good outcome. Ppl can't say he didn't deserve it just cuz he's young.
@@Nnnn-sg9eq he deserves to debut, but since he's young and like you said should improve his vocal it doesn't matter if he waited for another years. maybe try experience school life and keep training while keep getting recognition thru another yuehua trainees.
I don't care if Mnet if biased towards Sung Hanbin. He's the best dancer in the show and not afraid to sing live while having natural center charm. He DESERVE that number one spot.
It's the fact that I know they are pulling another Dayeon situation (giving Jellyfish 3 stars, while performances that weren't as good got 4 stars) yet I'm still falling for it.......Also, I hope next episode has better quality auditions because episode 1 was honestly pretty tragic overall. Does Mnet have no entry requirements?
lol my friend said that she thinks gunwook will get evil edited in future episodes😭 like she said she can just imagine him being a leader in the team and being edited as bad and harsh leader🥲🥲🥲
What bothers me the most is that the judges keep saying they should be able to sing and that’s it’s important yet they only ask the people with good stage presence an all star and ask the people who dance good to dance again. How come they don’t ask the contestants who actually sing well like the one hitting the high notes to sing a song and give them more screen time. It’s gonna be Kepler all over again and Hui will be Chaehyun the only vocalist. Since mnet can’t rig the votes they give the most screen time to their favs and it’s really obvious
Real. I feel they don't have any picks that are actual vocalist. Based on their lineup preference I'm expecting shit music. They don't care about music for sure with zero focus on people that can sing. The real preference is 1 stage presence 2 good looks 3 don't be bad at singing the basics 4 zero cares for people that can sing a large range. Just people that are good enough to somewhat sing. Like in yujin group there's this guy who really sang well but then they ignore him after evaluation only to say they all got 4 stars. Like I get yujin is a good dancer but at least that teamate deserved as much praise too
definitely. for my example, cong and dang hong hai did very well in singing, dancing, rapping and stage presence (and both of them have only been training for around 3 months) and yet honghai got 2 stars while cong got 1 yet yuehua korean trainees all got all-star despite the fact only one trainee out of the 4 actually can sing without messing up while the rest just had good rapping and dancing. it’s the same mistake mnet did in gp999 where them and the judges had clear favoritism towards the rappers and dancer trainees but after majority of the vocalists get removed, mnet will switch up and give angel edits to the remaining vocalists while evil editing the rappers/dancers trainees. you will think they will learn from their mistake
Yeah and they didn't highlight the rappers AT ALL. Like PH1 was just sitting there doing nothing. They edited out Kamden's rap even though it was self written and very good. It seems like they only care about dancing or something
@xylsxt she is the only vocalist in kep1er with support (shes an average vocalist btw) youngeun only shows shallow support but considering this is kpop she is actually better than 70% of kpop idols rn to be fair shes their notable vocalist too (shes a weak vocalist atm)
Jung Mingyu and Bak Doha are both actors with near to no idol training (their companies sent them on to increase their profile), so I'm afraid they are in fact that bad... Mnet distributes the songs (this is also why some contestants do horrible in the demos and well in other stages, they get assigned song outside their vocal range) and provides the outfits. There were several songs doubled up (Kick It, My House and Criminal) obviously in the hopes they'd get to do comparison edits, and it worked! But I don't think they expected this amount of comedy. I think LipJ really helps lighten the atmosphere, she's here for entertainment and so am I! If you're reading this check out Choi Jiho's demo stage, He performed 'Mmmh' by Kai. His performance is the first full skip of the season: uploaded straight to TH-cam with no references (not even a 1 second clip!) in the episode. imo he's the best rapper on the show.
No one better say a single negative thing about my boy Zhang hao like that’s my heterophobic king 🫡 and he’s so well rounded he has amazing vocals and dance skills and is a great leader, bro has to debut
the usa perform got me crying, like why just only jay chang who got the huge screentime (i do not hate him, he's my pick tbh). his perform with na kamden not doing a solo performance, mnet was so fucking biased. na kamden doing a great job ngl, u guys hv pay attention to him too
Girl, I totally agree with you! We almost have the same Top9. Mnet did the same editing this year. Like just them putting Hui at the end of the episode without us seeing his performance with his emotional moment just like Yu Jin in GP999... We need originality! Anyway, I like your concept, I really needed someone with the same opinion as me on this. Thank you 😁
My theory is that even 3 global trainees won't make it to the final line up, let me explain. So in girls planet 999, the format was 33-33-33 girls from Korean, Japan, China. Mnet removed this on purpose, and not because they wanted a more "diverse" survival show. Of course, they had only 33 koreans in gp999, but by making 49-49 the format they can increase the number of koreans. If you look at G-group you can see that most of them are japanese, chinese, and korean-american, and there's some other regions, although if you think about it, it's the same as gp999 but they just lowered the number of japanese, and chinese trainees.
Zhang Hao, Han Yujin and Sung Hanbin did so well 😭❤ They're my top 3's rn I did a top 9 before watching anything from bp999... only one, Ricky, is still there 🙊
I really love your commentary, especially how you're not putting anyone down even if they had a worse performance and all the staged moments you're pointing out 😊 Honestly, I'm so glad mnet's attempt at creating a Fu Yaning 2.0 moment had failed and all the people involved did not take the bait and were wholesome about it. Also there are two more things I'm debating on whether they were staged. One is Hui's fight for the seat number 1. To me it just seemed like the production team wanted him to sit in that spot so they could easily get his reactions and highlight him better since they're obviously debuting him (and I wouldn't be surprised if the concept for the final group was created to fit Hui specifically). Maybe he did want to sit in the spot himself, but it looked kinda unnatural to me how he just came up and started singing without both agreeing to make that the challenge. Second was Yue Hua groups picking the same song. This one I'm more sure about since it fuels the G vs K group narrative and even gave mnet the opportunity to show that "K group is better" when G group got worse rankings.
WE NEEDED TO TALK ABOUT THIS. I can already see Jay being the token american guy. They spent so much time closing up and showing reactions of the same contestants. Jellyfish def paid mnet. And they evil edited the hell out of Gun Wook Ima vote for him just to spite mnet
11:13 I get to know Kamden (sry if I spelled wrong) from a Chinese social media platform. There was a K-pop cover dancer who’s doing her daily practice and encountered him in the gym. He danced really well and danced together with her. I watched Jay and his full performance and saw some of Kamden’s rap parts were cut out in the episode.
Hwi crying had me crying. He was reminded of how proud he should be for what he's accomplished so far. He's default in my list as well as Hanbin, Gunwook, Jay, and Zhang Hao. I know a lot about some other Chinese trainees and are rooting for them, too. As for the others I haven't seen yet, I'm looking forward to episode 2. There will be trainees that couldn't show their full talent in the auditions, so I'm also waiting for those who'll make their breakthroughs. So far, this is turning out better than gp999
I feel like you have to take everything on these types of shows with a grain of salt like, with all the editing and scripting we probably have no idea how things are actually going down, how skilled trainees actually are and their real personalities. Despite that, I will be watching it every week 🤣
This time round ..... I fell for the MNET editing ...... I honestly fell for Hanbin( became my 1st pick), Matthew (became my 7th pick)..... Gunwook was always my pick pre-show and he still is my number 2 pick now ... my first pick pre-show,😂😂😂.... Godfather of the show Hui I'm rooting for him too Then Zhang hao and Han Yujin also impressed me
Honestly, mnet pushing the Hanbin Matthew friendship/wanting to debut together narrative made me more critical towards both boys. In my opinion Hanbin actually deserved all star, but Matthew has a lot of work to do. With how different in talent and skills they are now, I can't see them debut together at all.
True it does look like they got their favorites like they focus on gun wook was good but the other members were good and I feel bad for the other trainees that weren't showed in the ep have a lesser time to be voted for
I am voting for 7 global and 2 korean cause the segment where the global trainees where talking about how they difficult it was for them to come all the back to Korea and learn a foreigner language to realize their dreams really touched me. Also because a lot of global trainees are amazing. My 9 picks are : - Anthony (I saw his performances in produce 101 Japan and he is really good) - Haruto (this guy is just amazing) - Zhang Hao (amazing, talented, he must debut) - Chen Juan Kui (I am in love with his technique and expression, you can see that that guy really love dancing) - Jay (I like him, he is really good) - Hui (Before the show aired I didn't think I will vote for him but when he cried talking about Pentagon my heart couldn't take that, obviously he is an asset (a big one) for this group) - Ichika (he is one of the guys who performed Shine, he is the tallest one, and he is actually the oldest in the competition, he is very good but this is also his last attempt to become an idol) - Ji Woong (besides being an actor he is also a former idol, he is talented and he attempted to debut 3 times but faces problems with the companies, he really deserves this chance) - Krystian (he is good but he also attempted to debut so many times) I am prioritizing people who have been desperately trying to debut or to make it in the industry and I am also not voting for any minors, cause one I think minors aren't fit for industry (even though most idols nowadays are minors) and two minors can always debut later however trainees like Ichika (30) will not have the opportunity to do so cause they will be considered too "old". So these where my picks and thoughts that nobody asked for but that I still gave
Matthew turned me into an auntie fan and I’m not even 5 years older than him ahaha. He’s super cute and I hope he doesn’t become Yurina 2. The other half of the best friend duo Hanbin… Like dang son. I heard he’s the signal song centre and he deserves it. Really impressed with Chen Guan Jui- His special talent is amazing, his voice is nice enough and he’s funny. Jay was another one that stood out. He’s like the most American person I’ve ever seen. Stood out in a good way performance wise. As did Kamden. I’m holding my breath that mnet does not somehow evil edit/inept edit Chen Guan Jui or Zhanghao… Or just any of the other contestants who can speak the Chinese language.
Thank you for sacrificing yourself watching m net survival show 😙 I'm stop watching their survival show since X101. How the voting works, how the debut rule works, how the trainer scolding the trainee till they crying a river and how everything goes on in each episode; drama between trainees, revealing sad stories, etc. From P48 and PX101, I didn't watch the 1st and 2nd 101 completely, just watch the clips on YT, there's always this trainee that bad at audition then revealing they have very good vocals, raps, dances on the 2nd and 3rd round, this trainee that done very good at audition but don't make it to debut line up, this trainee that the audition is so flat but get picked to debut cause their "inner beauty" blinds the voter/the master/the judge. The editing actually make it worst, like is it a survival show or a K-drama that I'm watching right now? Once again, thank you 💕
i watched bp after zb1 debuted so hearing your predictions after knowing the outcome is so funny. it's also hilarious how they tried to make gunwook, like, villainous during the first two episodes and then hard shifted into highlighting him being cute. turns out he wasn't overselling himself on being an all-rounder, though. wrt mnet editing performances to make them look/sound worse than they are, i DEFINITELY saw this later in the show when lots of trainees were struggling with how ridiculously high the signal song was. mnet made it sound like they couldn't sing at all bc they couldn't sing that specific piece, and then later in the show we'd find out oh actually they just have a lower range. who knew.
The only way if mnet wants to justify themselves that they dont bias is to give all trainees screen time equally, of course that will make episodes so long, but Some trainees performances are cut off and never shown, which is totally unfair for them. I mean people will only vote the trainess they see on screen.
It was also like this during Girls Planet but the final lineup was still rather unexpected, especially considering who Mnet was pushing during the first episodes. In the end they can't do voter manipulation to the degree they did with the Produce series.
i really hate the rivalry that mnet created between k group and g group bc i just hear kgroup trainees saying stuff like “kgroup is so much better” which makes me feel iffy because yeah it’s good to be confident but it sounds like a superiority complex they developed just because koreans were the ones to invent k-pop even though both groups have people who are at the same skill level and potential, it’s fine to cheer for your own group but by putting down the other group too is honestly hard to watch.
it’s weird everyone kept complaining abt how mnet had favoritism towards the starship trainees during produce but yet it’s so obvious mnet is having VERY VERY biased reactions towards yuehua korean trainees (i’m saying korean bc mnet didn’t even try to uplift or giving any good edits or screentime towards the foreign yuehua trainees besides zhang hao) and yet people aren’t saying shit ?? (statement : i was going to put jellyfish aswell but looking through the episode, mnet only really cared abt 1 out of the 4 trainees under jellyfish and the rest are being pushed like backup dancers ++ i feel like mnet is going to edit him like cai bing or su ruiqi where they give him angel edits at first but later evil edit him at the end to make him not debut)
Watch Gunwook getting the Dayeon Treatment Also have you watched the vietnamese contestant performance on view … I’m still wondering why they did not air it they were so stable
Yesssss I just finished watching the 2nd episode, and I'm excited where this is going. The way they portrayed the relationships between the boys and how Seok Matthew is an angel and kind of in an rivals/friends/lovers situation. Also I'm going to need a compilation of Jiwoong being fruity... just... the whole thing. So many of these boys seem to be queer-coded and I'm here for it.
My top 7 pick for now are, 1. Hieoro : Know him well. He is super cute without trying. He can dance and rap. He will be a big baby in group. 2. Sung Han bin : My whacking prince who is super sexy, good-looking, can dance, sing and can be the center and can help the group in chronograph the dance. 3. Kim Ji Woong : Mr. Sexy who can't help but caught your attention. Can't breathe when he looks you in the eyes and his singing and dancing is good. He can be the sexy one in the group. 4. Haruto : This boy can rap 5. Zhang Hao : He is a musical genius and he can sing better than I thought he would. He can help Lee Hoe Take in making music for the group. 6. Jay : I like his voice and how cocky and friendly he is. 7. Lee Hoe Take : Very manly, sexy, good at singing, have lots of experience being in a group and can be the leader.
Gunwook is someone I did not know before the first episode but man he rocketed up to my favorite contestant so far! But still you can tell Mnet is pushing him. I really hope people can remember that the contestants have no influence over their screentime (and the editing in general ofc). I fear this turning into another Dayeon situation.
@Star Train I‘m referring to the fact that during Girls Planet 999, Dayeon was pretty universally considered MMet‘s Favorite. This came to a head when during one episode teams went on trips. All well and good until it was revealed that Dayeons time was sent to Dayeons house in order to perform for Dayeons mom. After this episode a lot of hate was sent Dayeons way due to the very blatant favoritism by Mnet. I hope that explains what I mean. I think Mnet has also been pushing Gunwook and I just hope that Mnet doesn‘t take it as far this time, because too much screen time can also result in hate towards the trainees.
@Star Train For Dayeon? Mnet gave her decent screen time and a storyline from the start. If I remember correctly they refused to give her the Girls planet version of „All Star“ during the auditions, despite her quite obviously deserving it skill wise. The reason for this was most likely them trying to give her an underdog story line. Like I said, at the beginning people didn‘t mind her being heavily featured. After all Mnet always picks like 20 trainees they would like to debut and gives them a lot of screen time. If you are interested in who Mnet seems to be trying to push this season: serikeu just did a great video called „i already predicted the end of boys planet“ that goes over all the favored trainees so far.
@Star Train I personally feel it was noticeable pretty much from the start. As soon as they had given her an underdog story line at least. Which started right after her audition performance.
Jay is the reason I am evern watching this bloomin programme. And fr this shoe will be somehow dodgy, but I hope the trainees will gain useful experience, and us voters will not believe the editing
am I the only one who found it weird when someone from the k group said “k group is superior” “it’s kpop” to defend k group as if because the others are foreign they can’t be k artists?
If we go by what the twins said last season, Mnet chooses the evaluation songs for the trainees and they get no say. So it’s likely the Shine/Kick It/My House moments are all staged to create a narrative.
I will watch bp for Anthonny only. Since produce 101, he's been my fav. He may not be the most talented person there, but he's definitely got the talent has a decent vocal skills and dancing skills + looks and his personality and adorable traits is what I'm here for. MNET keeps on cutting him even in Their Performance his vocal part was cut off. MNET BEEFING WITH ANTHONNY as always. From the pictures to their performance. To be clear, i know ruto deserved that and I'm not hating on him, I'm just saying that they all deserve better. They made Anthonny and Min invisible.... My gawd.
i think them pointing out that the trainees are singing live by saying things like "is he really singing live?" etc. is supposed to just be a compliment, like their vocals sound so good it has to be a recording, contrary to that meaning there are trainees who don't sing live
okay so i wasn't aware of jay's accusations until after i posted this video but there are threads debunking this so i hope you will all check it out and then form your own opinions - i really don't want a garam or jimin 2.0 twitter.com/foolsjy/status/1615103515365449750
Nah Park Gunwook is all rounder that is not mnet saying cause he already had exprience in a survival show called Wild Idol he knows how to sing, rap and write lyrics for the song's he even wrote final song's lyrics for the final episode of the survival show he was eliminated in the final's not making him a member of boygroup TAN. So far 1 episode was not as bad as i thought i thought it would be worse but it was ok so we will see i'm roothing for my guy Ricky.
the ep was so fun but ngl I'm kinda disappointed the show is becoming produce all over again like even gp999 was 80% the same as any produce season but it had so many new aspects (cells, no labels names being dropped, trainees being already ranked before with centers being chosen and everything) like it made the show way more interesting to me but this one is just produce all over again even down to the mentors/trainers but I'll definitely enjoy it regardless (seok matthew WILL DEBUT)
it seems that mnet has adopted a new system where the hosts are called star masters and they will change each mission. so currently the star master is hwang minhyun but it would change to another host after the first mission
I must admit that Mnet's bias is already obvious this early in the show, but I can't really feel bad about it because literally most of my top picks are being highlighted :""") But what is definitely unfair is Mnet deliberately cutting good performances from the episodes - Kamden and the Vietnam trainees deserved better.
Thanks ! I'll always watch ur videos cuz u r really amazing at summarising it all ! Thanks a lot for the videos and keep 'em coming! Fighting!! Stay hydrated and smile ! 🤗
they didn’t include it but they did include a scene where the judges were supposedly yelling at his group for doing bad in their performance but a krystian fan on twitter later exposed mnet and said that same scene where the judges were allegedly yelling at his group for doing bad, krystian and his team-mates were actually sitting in the back which only means the judges were actually yelling at another group in that scene but mnet evil edited it to make it seem like they were yelling at his group for doing bad.
@@danield2815 first case of evil editing…. Nice mnet. Very nice /;( Krystian and his team didnt deserve this. I hope he debuts so mnet will see that their favoritism won’t work every time.
@@annanowak9620 yep and many ppl on twt said that he actually did very well compared to his other teammates and mnet could’ve easily edited him to be the next yurina or xiaoting but mnet obviously doesn’t want him to debut so they brought him down with the rest
Enjoyed this overview. I watched the episode tonight, and I have such mixed feelings about Hui and also Xiao (Lee Dong Yeol) and Hwanhee from UP10TION. I want to support them but also want them back with their groups. Pentagon is one of my three ult groups (along with my No. 1 SF9 and SHINee), and Hwanhee is one of my favorite vocalists. And I don't want to see happen to him and Xiao what did to Wooseok and Jinhyuk after Produce X 101 (them never going back to UP10TION even though they are technically still members of the group). Outside of idols who have already debuted, my favorite is Gun Wook. He was one of my faves when he was on Wild Idol, and it was obvious he was talented then (in the fall of 2021) when he was still 16. He's only just turned 18 now and already has such confidence and stage presence.
Okay I just watched the episode 1 too 🤧 My top 9 picks as for now are.. 1 Sung Hanbin 2. Kim Jiwoong 3. Han Yujin 4. Seok Matthew 5. Jay 6. Lee Hotaek 7. Zhanghao 8. Gyuvin 9. Keita
mnet is not just biased but biased in the same way over and over again. they don't look at the contestants and pick the best. they just want the kids that fit their "k-pop standard" mold best.
Thanks for summarizing the episode. I don't have time to watch the whole episodes so I'm watching official mnet clips instead. So far I only have two korean picks. Its a shame if the ratio of korean to global is 2:1. Most of the line-up would be boys I didn't like or felt indifferent about. Well that's if I continue to pick global contestants. I hope you continue this series, if it isn't to much for you.
The ones who deserve it the most based on the voting results are Na Kamden: Performed with Jay and started off the song and wrote his own rap, yet wasn't shown at all + his rap was cut off Yoo Seung Eon: Performed as part of K group Yue Ha trainees, he did the high note in Kick It, yet he was barely shown, instead Yujin and Gyu Vin got more solo screentime. Zhang Hao too has a greater fanbase which I'm not against but Idk why Yoo seung Eon isn't getting the same hype when he also did the high note and can sing well. Lee Hwan Hee: Kum Jun Hyeon: Although he wasn't cut out and got a lot of screentime from the show, his vocals are barely shown, mnet is creating him as this funny entertainer guy, because of how funny his reactions are, that when I searcged him up I was surprised at how amazing his vocals are its giving rnb Kim Tae Rae: Jeong Ichan: Lee Yedam: Wumuti: His performance was not shown even though it was perfect and he sounded like Baekhyun literally, despite being a former member of the Chinese boy group SWIN and its sub-unit SWIN-Se and also being a contestant of the survival show Under Nineteen and training for 6 years and 4 months, it's just sad how little of his talent is being shown
13:31 I can see that, but Gyuvin actually reminds me a lot of Minhee (X1/Cravity), like the resemblance imo is craaazy. Especially with both being tall too lol
About the vocals - everyone is singing live in the auditions, but some of them are autotuned and some of them aren’t. Matthew Seok’s performance was pitch corrected whereas Hanbin’s wasn’t, for example. And because I know some people see “autotune/pitch correction” and automatically assume this is a malicious comment: Matthew sounded nearly the same with and without pitch correction. You can hear the difference in the broadcast version and the full fancam version though.
The same with haruto unstable voice but they cut it ,😂And still he got all star .. .for me episode one sung hanbin and zhang hao,Anthony (but the video was cut) did a good job. For singing it live
There are no hosts for this season. But there's a Star Master which works just like the host. They will change Star Master for each mission. The first Star Master is Nu'est's Minhyun
I don't understand how gyuvin was given an all star when they barely noticed him in the group performance and people like Gunwook and Hanbin didn't? Make it make sense. I don't think Haruto deserved all stars either with his vocals but awell
Rickys introduction when all the boys had like a minute to name some interests and stuff - charisma boss baby ricky (T o T) i was crying laughing, it felt like watching something insanely feral queer coded
The favour editing in this show is actually real cause if u watch the full clip of harutos groups performance his singing was kinda bad and his voice was cracking while Antony absolutely slayed that performance but they didn't show that cause they want ppl to love haruto more
Fun Fact to the performance between Bak Doha and Jung Mingyu their shirts are actually the complementary colours: Red & Green ! so pretty possible it was set up
8:35 i personally love Haruto because i have already seen him on LOUD (th survival show of Jyp and Psy) and i find that he was very funny and cute and absolutely outstanding on stage
Although i really liked some of the performances i did think that mnet only shows and gives more screentime to one member who they want to debut Like in kick it They kept showing and giving more screentime to one member from the group
Thinking about it, I feel bad for the trainees that performed with the trainees that left before the show even aired. It’s highly probable that their performances won’t get aired in the episode. Meaning that no chance to show off their skills unless Mnet is kind enough to blur some faces, but the full performance likely won’t get aired in the episode.
6:53 I think they could have gone with a VIXX song, since they were (and, in some ways still are) more popular than Verivery. Maybe not Shangri La (bc it’s overdone) or any with heavy theming (bc it wouldn’t appeal to general audiences), but Chained Up could have been a good choice, specially if they invented a small dance break to show off.
I had my own bingo going on whilst watching it and I'm glad that I played it out as a bingo not a drinking game as I'd 100% still be in the hospital if I drank at every exaggerated reaction edit or evil/angel edit
In the first part of the episode, where a 'bot' is saying something, it said that the Star Master (Host/MC) changes every performance. So they will get different MC every performance. The MC for the first performance was Minhyun, let's see who will be the next.
"Evil editing the foreign trainees, extra points if they are Chinese"
LMAO, so accurate!
still mad about gp999
its so funny because people still be eating it up :(
This comment aged well, Krystian got the premium treatment on ep 3
No cuz LITERALLY its so pressing...like what is with these korean entertainment programs hating on Chinese ppl for no effing reason *insert cardi what was the reason* 💀💀💀
You can't tell me people who have trained for years, sing as bad as the guys who performed HOT. That was 100% mnet telling them to do it. It's the Chinese twins situation from GP999 all over again. Either mnet has planned a redemption/improvement arc specific for these two guys or they are not considered for the final line up, so mnet wants to get rid of them.
yes exactly !!!
But this time the trainees chose the songs
I swear im not defending mnet ik theyre full of shit, but there's lot of idols who sings that bad without all the autotune and backup vocals 🤚 😶, so it's not a surprise if trainees sings that bad
@@annanowak9620 That was attached to the rumour with all the fake demo songs. You can't tell me the YWY boys picked Call Me Baby themselves when it's out of all their vocal ranges and they only have 1 vocalist on their team in the first place!
@Anna Nowak Who would actually still believe mnet at this point after everything that the Chinese trainees has exposed?
For those who understand Mandarin, Ollie was also funny cos when he spoke English he's super fluent and Americanized so everyone assumed he would have an accent when speaking Mandarin. And he did, except it was like a thick regional accent. Like, imagine some Korean American kid with a white parent speaking with heavy satoori. He is definitely an interesting kid.
omg really? That's so interesting xD hahaha. Ollie is so cute!
Yess hahahah he has a Henan accent I wasn’t expecting that when I watched it😂
i thought he would be from america or canada, but i think he’s just chinese? 😭😭
omg yes this! the part where he was talking about the yuehua k group relaxing it took me a hot minute to realise he was speaking chinese LOL
@@bimbozos yup he's chinese/american (mixed) but from beijing!
I feel so sad for Na Kamden. Bruh wrote his own rap, and pulled through with his perfect dance skills. Idk they really did him dirty by cutting all of his parts in their performance.
Honestly idk why Mnet edited it like that. They could've gonna the "this team is super impressive" route and I think the performance would've come across better on screen. Kamden's rap was really good as were Jay's adlibs during that part, it was the highlight of their performance! One thing's for sure: if Kamden survives this elimination he's gonna kill it at position evaluation.
Same, we have to support him !!!!
ikr! he was so criminally underrated 😭😭
Its was soooo obvious...snake mnet!💀🤡
@@lightblueskies fr they could have been a power duo with amazing rapping and vocals but they only pushed Jay :(
Actually when the boy in blue silk shirt is singing, our favourite judge makes his iconic face and in the backgroud you can see THE BOY IN A BLUE SHIT SITTING IN THE AUDIENCE!! my man is literally in two places at once! MNETs editing team FAILED THEM ALREADY IN THE FIRST EPISODE
It's crazy how easily we can see who Mnet is hoping gets into the group. It's sad because some people they cut out, like Kamden, did really well when you look at the full audition clip. However, the likelihood of people that don't get screen time in the beginning getting into the group is low, as we saw from GP999.
yeah if they can't manipulate the votes, then they'll manipulate the audience by deciding who gets the most screentime/compliments
YEAH AND BC OF THAT KAMDEN IS RANKED SO LOW
@@mybaelam Kamden was really cool in wild idol. I just hope votes can really take him far this time
ikr...at first im so happy when jay hv so much screentime (he's one of my pick) but when i realized kamden hv no screentime (like literally no screentime) i was so sad bcz kamden is one of my pick too 😭😭
@Neezaluna Anjelita let's vote for kamden. That was so unfair. His rap was so dope, especially with the uncut version
From spoilers previously, I heard that there was quite a difference in performances and skills of K group from G group. After watching the whole episode, I’m so rooting for the G group. They have really unique skills and personalities.
This whole Hui thing has me in an emotional mess. He is just so precious and I hope he achieves all he hopes for on here.
YES
The G team is really like a breath of fresh air cuz it was so obvi how diverse their vibes and concepts, the K group just feels repetitive to me idk. I'm rooting for G group memebers! I hope that this season beats the predicted 6:3 ratio of foreign and korean members (optimistically naive ik) Matthew, Hanbin and Hao, let's debut!!
after hearing some of the chinese girls planet contestants say that they weren’t allowed to pick their own audition song and that mnet would choose for them so that some contestants would have to sing songs out of their ranges to make others look better... i’ve sworn off produce shows forever cos i know the audience manipulation is going to be terrific. thanks for covering this 😭 i’m gonna be watching ur vids instead of going through hour long episodes for a show that probably has the debut lineup already decided 💀
We have to remember that mnet already has a concept and debut song at least partially ready. So they need contestants who would fit with the concept but also make a well rounded group.
I would guess they picked around 20 to 25 guys who would fit their final line-up and these guys will be pushed. Basically like contestant no. 1 would be the perfect main vocalist for mnet, but if he doesn't make it, they have contestants no.28 and no.84 as substitute (random numbers). And they did that for every position and picked their faves.
Yep that's highly likely
this. This is literally the same as I-Land. I remember Iland having only 24 contestants, yet i didnt see half of them the whole show. Nicolas, Hanbin, Seon and etc. weren’t in the show for like 90% of its entirety
@tuananhdang7385 It was also obvious in the final, when the producers chose Sunoo over K. They were both very popular with the audience, but Sunoo was chosen cause he fit the concept of Enhypen better. I personally would actually have done the same, even when K was my favorite and I didn't know he would get a second chance at that time. Sunoo is just better with Enhypen and K better with &team.
That last hui moment is giving nu’est in produce 101. When nu’est performed, everyone began to feel emotional/started crying as they saw them give it their all. I have high feelings it’ll be just like that for hui
When Hui came, everyone was like "Ariana what are you doing here?"
Literally saw a comment that said "Hui being on Boys Planet is like Beyonce being on American Idol" and I couldn't agree more
Mnet might be sneaky and satanic, but the moment Hui sat on that #1 seat, they knew that they can't fuck with him, or else... as Hui sang... ✨Keep watching me shut it down✨
5:57 Honestly this part makes me miss Girls Planet because despite being from three nations, each cell had the K-C-J system and we could see more amazing interactions.
Once again, Gunwook is so fucking talented (just like Kim Dayeon). But it can be hard for fans to support if Mnet starts giving him an unfair amount of screentime.
16:10 Omgg bruh this... Mnet posted this performance's videos on Instagram and the amount of shocked comments...
16:22 Takuto. I honestly think that he's too young for this.
18:35 Mnet hasn't received their extra pocket money yet from you-know-who
lmao no pocket money for mnet
Gunwook is phenomenal frfr
I just hope his thinking changes though.... K-pop can evolve with G and K together....
@@CrimsonDawn-ou4og I have very little doubt that that's Mnet editing exaggeration for a narrative. It's giving Fu Yaning "we go up but you don't."
@@goldyd144 My first survival show so I'm amazed at all the stunts Mnet is able to pull
I honestly wonder if pentagon is going to disband and hui just isn't ready to give up
I think from screentime of just Episode 1 mnet wants:
1. Park Gunwook
2. Zhang Hao
3. Sung Hanbin
4. Lee Daeul
5. Takuto
6. Han Yujin
7. Kim Gyuvin
8. Jay
9. next week
(this isnt being biased i dont vote for half of these people, its just my observation)
I 100% think mnet doesnt want Hui in the lineup and is just using him for reactions and views..
Takuto and Lee daeul are just there as fillers honestly, they give them a lot of screen time but they don’t highlight them in as good light as the others
And although they don’t necessarily want hui, they pretty much know he’s gonna make it so I’m thinking this is mnets ideal lineup:
1. Sung Hanbin
2. Park Gunwook
3. Han Yujin
4. jay
5. Zhang hao
6. Lee Hotaek
7.
8.
9.
There’s also some they’re considering like haruto, Ricky, gyuvin and this is just those shown in the first ep
@@josiahburrell1618 yes lee daeul and takuto is the next jinwoo
Why did seunghwan get more screentime than the viet trainees LMAO
@@mybaelam ikr! Every reaction was him like?? I hope they push him in the next ep (looks like an onlyoneof song lmao)
Seok Matthew had one of the best edits of the ep, I think he's one of productions favourites as well
i literally got deja vu with hui because history literally repeated themselves 😭 in the first season, yujin was the "veteran" trainee who joined a survival show with alot of youngsters with a sob story alongside. so when I watched the bp999 episode and saw hui, i thought that this was the exact thing happening. it's funnier how both of them are from cube... 👀
He is really Yujin 2.0, both of them deserve better
and both of their performances got cut in the first ep as a cliffhanger !
ikr, idk why he join, pentagon is doing alright, they even still have schedule together a month ago, on aaa and kbs stage
@@puddingth EXACTLY OMG
@@zhongli8991 I mean he did said that his gp work got rejected A LOT after his military service, and he felt useless as the leader so he thinks going on this show will help the group to be in people's eyes again
So sad that they skipped over Winnie's Kokobop performance since he actually has a really nice and stable vocal tone, but instead just focused on how he dropped out of college to participate to become an idol. He's so underrated, I hope he gets more attention after this!
Do you follow the group he's in Nine.i? Seowon and Jiho are also in the group. The group is so talented.
NOOO, young and rich, tall and handsome, charisma boss RICKY IS ICONIC !!! hahaha love him
12:41 actually, I'm surprised nobody is weirded out by the way Mnet is pushing Yujin at us, like... bro is 15. Yes, it's nice to see there's such talented boys in the making, but side eye if he ends up in the final line up. Same for any of the other trainees that is younger than 17. But that's just me tho.
It's like mnet always has a young underage boy since Daehwi.
But that's also kinda unfair tho, if u guys didn't like trainees who is younger than 17 to be in final lineup just cuz they r younger if they deserve it. I mean it's their choice to be a trainee & chose this path. Even if they eliminate, they still continue to be a trainee & pushing hard to debut. Nothing change. The same as newjeans & 4th gp generation. Lots of them debut under 17, so why can't ppl support trainee who r under 17 in this show just cuz they r younger?
Like yujin, I agree he need lots of improving in his singing ability but if he works hard in the upcoming ep & get a good outcome. Ppl can't say he didn't deserve it just cuz he's young.
@@Nnnn-sg9eq he deserves to debut, but since he's young and like you said should improve his vocal it doesn't matter if he waited for another years. maybe try experience school life and keep training while keep getting recognition thru another yuehua trainees.
JAY LETS DEBUT! THE VOCALS
YES
I literally am obsessed with Jay🥹🫶🏽
@@wangxian5473 RELATABLE
Literally inlove with Jay's vocals already
if jay doesn't debut, i'm rioting at mnet headquarters idc
I don't care if Mnet if biased towards Sung Hanbin. He's the best dancer in the show and not afraid to sing live while having natural center charm. He DESERVE that number one spot.
It's the fact that I know they are pulling another Dayeon situation (giving Jellyfish 3 stars, while performances that weren't as good got 4 stars) yet I'm still falling for it.......Also, I hope next episode has better quality auditions because episode 1 was honestly pretty tragic overall. Does Mnet have no entry requirements?
i personally thought the g group trainees did really well but i am excited for ep 2
It is working I’m kinda obsessed with Gun wook😭
@@wangxian5473 Right! I hate Mnet so much 😭😭😭
lol my friend said that she thinks gunwook will get evil edited in future episodes😭 like she said she can just imagine him being a leader in the team and being edited as bad and harsh leader🥲🥲🥲
@@zfnashawolsone yeah cuz at the 1st ep mnet already push an evil edit to him as a 'strong guy' who r difficult to approach
What bothers me the most is that the judges keep saying they should be able to sing and that’s it’s important yet they only ask the people with good stage presence an all star and ask the people who dance good to dance again. How come they don’t ask the contestants who actually sing well like the one hitting the high notes to sing a song and give them more screen time. It’s gonna be Kepler all over again and Hui will be Chaehyun the only vocalist. Since mnet can’t rig the votes they give the most screen time to their favs and it’s really obvious
Real. I feel they don't have any picks that are actual vocalist. Based on their lineup preference I'm expecting shit music. They don't care about music for sure with zero focus on people that can sing. The real preference is 1 stage presence 2 good looks 3 don't be bad at singing the basics 4 zero cares for people that can sing a large range. Just people that are good enough to somewhat sing. Like in yujin group there's this guy who really sang well but then they ignore him after evaluation only to say they all got 4 stars. Like I get yujin is a good dancer but at least that teamate deserved as much praise too
They kept saying they should sing good and yet they gave most of the taipei group 1-2 stars
definitely. for my example, cong and dang hong hai did very well in singing, dancing, rapping and stage presence (and both of them have only been training for around 3 months) and yet honghai got 2 stars while cong got 1 yet yuehua korean trainees all got all-star despite the fact only one trainee out of the 4 actually can sing without messing up while the rest just had good rapping and dancing. it’s the same mistake mnet did in gp999 where them and the judges had clear favoritism towards the rappers and dancer trainees but after majority of the vocalists get removed, mnet will switch up and give angel edits to the remaining vocalists while evil editing the rappers/dancers trainees. you will think they will learn from their mistake
Yeah and they didn't highlight the rappers AT ALL. Like PH1 was just sitting there doing nothing. They edited out Kamden's rap even though it was self written and very good. It seems like they only care about dancing or something
@xylsxt she is the only vocalist in kep1er with support (shes an average vocalist btw) youngeun only shows shallow support but considering this is kpop she is actually better than 70% of kpop idols rn to be fair shes their notable vocalist too (shes a weak vocalist atm)
Jung Mingyu and Bak Doha are both actors with near to no idol training (their companies sent them on to increase their profile), so I'm afraid they are in fact that bad...
Mnet distributes the songs (this is also why some contestants do horrible in the demos and well in other stages, they get assigned song outside their vocal range) and provides the outfits. There were several songs doubled up (Kick It, My House and Criminal) obviously in the hopes they'd get to do comparison edits, and it worked! But I don't think they expected this amount of comedy.
I think LipJ really helps lighten the atmosphere, she's here for entertainment and so am I!
If you're reading this check out Choi Jiho's demo stage, He performed 'Mmmh' by Kai. His performance is the first full skip of the season: uploaded straight to TH-cam with no references (not even a 1 second clip!) in the episode. imo he's the best rapper on the show.
ooh ok will check them out
No one better say a single negative thing about my boy Zhang hao like that’s my heterophobic king 🫡 and he’s so well rounded he has amazing vocals and dance skills and is a great leader, bro has to debut
Yesss
@@hueningbahibitch omg your pf ur a weirdo
WAIT THAT WAS HIM. He instantly gets my vote. I forgot about that
@@hueningbahibitch weirdo leave the huenings alone you freak
the usa perform got me crying, like why just only jay chang who got the huge screentime (i do not hate him, he's my pick tbh). his perform with na kamden not doing a solo performance, mnet was so fucking biased. na kamden doing a great job ngl, u guys hv pay attention to him too
yes Kamden is doing so well I'm so sad that he is not getting attention
Girl, I totally agree with you! We almost have the same Top9.
Mnet did the same editing this year. Like just them putting Hui at the end of the episode without us seeing his performance with his emotional moment just like Yu Jin in GP999...
We need originality! Anyway, I like your concept, I really needed someone with the same opinion as me on this. Thank you 😁
haha thanks for watching
Atleast we don't have helicopter cringe drama
My theory is that even 3 global trainees won't make it to the final line up, let me explain.
So in girls planet 999, the format was 33-33-33 girls from Korean, Japan, China. Mnet removed this on purpose, and not because they wanted a more "diverse" survival show. Of course, they had only 33 koreans in gp999, but by making 49-49 the format they can increase the number of koreans. If you look at G-group you can see that most of them are japanese, chinese, and korean-american, and there's some other regions, although if you think about it, it's the same as gp999 but they just lowered the number of japanese, and chinese trainees.
wait this is kind of genius omg
but in girls planet all the contestant that are not 100% japanese and chinese are in k group
Zhang Hao, Han Yujin and Sung Hanbin did so well 😭❤ They're my top 3's rn
I did a top 9 before watching anything from bp999... only one, Ricky, is still there 🙊
My fave Zhang hao and hanbin too!!
I really love your commentary, especially how you're not putting anyone down even if they had a worse performance and all the staged moments you're pointing out 😊
Honestly, I'm so glad mnet's attempt at creating a Fu Yaning 2.0 moment had failed and all the people involved did not take the bait and were wholesome about it.
Also there are two more things I'm debating on whether they were staged. One is Hui's fight for the seat number 1. To me it just seemed like the production team wanted him to sit in that spot so they could easily get his reactions and highlight him better since they're obviously debuting him (and I wouldn't be surprised if the concept for the final group was created to fit Hui specifically). Maybe he did want to sit in the spot himself, but it looked kinda unnatural to me how he just came up and started singing without both agreeing to make that the challenge. Second was Yue Hua groups picking the same song. This one I'm more sure about since it fuels the G vs K group narrative and even gave mnet the opportunity to show that "K group is better" when G group got worse rankings.
yay thank you so much for watching and commenting
WE NEEDED TO TALK ABOUT THIS. I can already see Jay being the token american guy. They spent so much time closing up and showing reactions of the same contestants. Jellyfish def paid mnet. And they evil edited the hell out of Gun Wook Ima vote for him just to spite mnet
Isn’t Gun Wook from Jellyfish? If Jellyfish paid mnet, why would they evil edit him? He didn’t seem evil edited to me.
Jay is annoying
yeah they spent so much time on Jay and almost 0 time on his partner Kamden even though they make a great group
@@Pr0d3gi nah
@@cookiemonster8184 they definitely did evil edit him like the woosh effects making it seem like he's scary or mean when in reality he isn't
11:13 I get to know Kamden (sry if I spelled wrong) from a Chinese social media platform. There was a K-pop cover dancer who’s doing her daily practice and encountered him in the gym. He danced really well and danced together with her. I watched Jay and his full performance and saw some of Kamden’s rap parts were cut out in the episode.
yesss a fellow Jay fan 🥰 your taste is immaculate
haha thank you, jay is amazing !!!
Jay's expressions, singing, mans is confident
Jay has a beautiful voice ❤
Damn. Jay has grown so much since Under19 and that voice. His acappella sounds like it came straight from a CD
What’s not to like? He’s got the vocals, dancing and charisma. Plus his reactions when they cut to him crack me up 😂
Hwi crying had me crying. He was reminded of how proud he should be for what he's accomplished so far. He's default in my list as well as Hanbin, Gunwook, Jay, and Zhang Hao. I know a lot about some other Chinese trainees and are rooting for them, too. As for the others I haven't seen yet, I'm looking forward to episode 2. There will be trainees that couldn't show their full talent in the auditions, so I'm also waiting for those who'll make their breakthroughs. So far, this is turning out better than gp999
I feel like you have to take everything on these types of shows with a grain of salt like, with all the editing and scripting we probably have no idea how things are actually going down, how skilled trainees actually are and their real personalities. Despite that, I will be watching it every week 🤣
yay thank you
You are so right about the 3:6 debut ratio, we got Hao, Matthew and Ricky and then hanbin, gunwook, taerae, yujin, gyuvin and jiwoong are all korean.
This time round ..... I fell for the MNET editing
...... I honestly fell for Hanbin( became my 1st pick), Matthew (became my 7th pick)..... Gunwook was always my pick pre-show and he still is my number 2 pick now ... my first pick pre-show,😂😂😂.... Godfather of the show Hui I'm rooting for him too
Then Zhang hao and Han Yujin also impressed me
Ooh those are some great picks ☺️
@@starxmon thank you love, I can't wait to see how they will change,😂😂😂😂
Honestly, mnet pushing the Hanbin Matthew friendship/wanting to debut together narrative made me more critical towards both boys. In my opinion Hanbin actually deserved all star, but Matthew has a lot of work to do. With how different in talent and skills they are now, I can't see them debut together at all.
yeah i agree hanbin did deserve all star
@@starxmon I'm actually curious of your top 9 picks after the preliminary results
True it does look like they got their favorites like they focus on gun wook was good but the other members were good and I feel bad for the other trainees that weren't showed in the ep have a lesser time to be voted for
yeah typical mnet...
i love ricky’s catchphrase lol,, it’s so silly
I am voting for 7 global and 2 korean cause the segment where the global trainees where talking about how they difficult it was for them to come all the back to Korea and learn a foreigner language to realize their dreams really touched me. Also because a lot of global trainees are amazing. My 9 picks are :
- Anthony (I saw his performances in produce 101 Japan and he is really good) - Haruto (this guy is just amazing) - Zhang Hao (amazing, talented, he must debut) - Chen Juan Kui (I am in love with his technique and expression, you can see that that guy really love dancing) - Jay (I like him, he is really good) - Hui (Before the show aired I didn't think I will vote for him but when he cried talking about Pentagon my heart couldn't take that, obviously he is an asset (a big one) for this group) - Ichika (he is one of the guys who performed Shine, he is the tallest one, and he is actually the oldest in the competition, he is very good but this is also his last attempt to become an idol) - Ji Woong (besides being an actor he is also a former idol, he is talented and he attempted to debut 3 times but faces problems with the companies, he really deserves this chance) - Krystian (he is good but he also attempted to debut so many times)
I am prioritizing people who have been desperately trying to debut or to make it in the industry and I am also not voting for any minors, cause one I think minors aren't fit for industry (even though most idols nowadays are minors) and two minors can always debut later however trainees like Ichika (30) will not have the opportunity to do so cause they will be considered too "old". So these where my picks and thoughts that nobody asked for but that I still gave
Matthew turned me into an auntie fan and I’m not even 5 years older than him ahaha. He’s super cute and I hope he doesn’t become Yurina 2.
The other half of the best friend duo Hanbin… Like dang son. I heard he’s the signal song centre and he deserves it.
Really impressed with Chen Guan Jui- His special talent is amazing, his voice is nice enough and he’s funny.
Jay was another one that stood out. He’s like the most American person I’ve ever seen. Stood out in a good way performance wise. As did Kamden.
I’m holding my breath that mnet does not somehow evil edit/inept edit Chen Guan Jui or Zhanghao… Or just any of the other contestants who can speak the Chinese language.
Thank you for sacrificing yourself watching m net survival show 😙
I'm stop watching their survival show since X101. How the voting works, how the debut rule works, how the trainer scolding the trainee till they crying a river and how everything goes on in each episode; drama between trainees, revealing sad stories, etc.
From P48 and PX101, I didn't watch the 1st and 2nd 101 completely, just watch the clips on YT, there's always this trainee that bad at audition then revealing they have very good vocals, raps, dances on the 2nd and 3rd round, this trainee that done very good at audition but don't make it to debut line up, this trainee that the audition is so flat but get picked to debut cause their "inner beauty" blinds the voter/the master/the judge. The editing actually make it worst, like is it a survival show or a K-drama that I'm watching right now?
Once again, thank you 💕
yay thank you for watching, appreciate you being here !!!
vote for shiny best friends seok matthew and sung hanbin
yess
gurlie and the fact they didnt even show some of the evaluations in the eps LIKE I WAS WONDERING WHERE ALL THE RAPPERS WERE??
i watched bp after zb1 debuted so hearing your predictions after knowing the outcome is so funny. it's also hilarious how they tried to make gunwook, like, villainous during the first two episodes and then hard shifted into highlighting him being cute. turns out he wasn't overselling himself on being an all-rounder, though.
wrt mnet editing performances to make them look/sound worse than they are, i DEFINITELY saw this later in the show when lots of trainees were struggling with how ridiculously high the signal song was. mnet made it sound like they couldn't sing at all bc they couldn't sing that specific piece, and then later in the show we'd find out oh actually they just have a lower range. who knew.
The only way if mnet wants to justify themselves that they dont bias is to give all trainees screen time equally, of course that will make episodes so long, but Some trainees performances are cut off and never shown, which is totally unfair for them. I mean people will only vote the trainess they see on screen.
yep...
FUN FACT:
Doha performance Is literally my favorite, like omg. His performance got me entertained and smiling so hard. So cute omg...
i watched the episode when it was airing but i still watch your videos because i like the way you sum everything up!
Where you watched it????
aww thanks !!!
@@wiaminho05 it is streaming on mnet channel here on youtube but if you missed it you can watch it on viki for example :)
It was also like this during Girls Planet but the final lineup was still rather unexpected, especially considering who Mnet was pushing during the first episodes. In the end they can't do voter manipulation to the degree they did with the Produce series.
Im literally in love with Sung Han Bin
i really hate the rivalry that mnet created between k group and g group bc i just hear kgroup trainees saying stuff like “kgroup is so much better” which makes me feel iffy because yeah it’s good to be confident but it sounds like a superiority complex they developed just because koreans were the ones to invent k-pop even though both groups have people who are at the same skill level and potential, it’s fine to cheer for your own group but by putting down the other group too is honestly hard to watch.
The fact that vietnamese performance got cut out entirely then they also gave them 1 and 2 stars😀
it’s weird everyone kept complaining abt how mnet had favoritism towards the starship trainees during produce but yet it’s so obvious mnet is having VERY VERY biased reactions towards yuehua korean trainees (i’m saying korean bc mnet didn’t even try to uplift or giving any good edits or screentime towards the foreign yuehua trainees besides zhang hao) and yet people aren’t saying shit ??
(statement : i was going to put jellyfish aswell but looking through the episode, mnet only really cared abt 1 out of the 4 trainees under jellyfish and the rest are being pushed like backup dancers ++ i feel like mnet is going to edit him like cai bing or su ruiqi where they give him angel edits at first but later evil edit him at the end to make him not debut)
dear pandamon, i love this so much pls do this for every episode i beg
of course
Watch Gunwook getting the Dayeon Treatment
Also have you watched the vietnamese contestant performance on view … I’m still wondering why they did not air it they were so stable
Yesssss I just finished watching the 2nd episode, and I'm excited where this is going. The way they portrayed the relationships between the boys and how Seok Matthew is an angel and kind of in an rivals/friends/lovers situation. Also I'm going to need a compilation of Jiwoong being fruity... just... the whole thing. So many of these boys seem to be queer-coded and I'm here for it.
My top 7 pick for now are,
1. Hieoro : Know him well. He is super cute without trying. He can dance and rap. He will be a big baby in group.
2. Sung Han bin : My whacking prince who is super sexy, good-looking, can dance, sing and can be the center and can help the group in chronograph the dance.
3. Kim Ji Woong : Mr. Sexy who can't help but caught your attention. Can't breathe when he looks you in the eyes and his singing and dancing is good. He can be the sexy one in the group.
4. Haruto : This boy can rap
5. Zhang Hao : He is a musical genius and he can sing better than I thought he would. He can help Lee Hoe Take in making music for the group.
6. Jay : I like his voice and how cocky and friendly he is.
7. Lee Hoe Take : Very manly, sexy, good at singing, have lots of experience being in a group and can be the leader.
Gunwook is someone I did not know before the first episode but man he rocketed up to my favorite contestant so far! But still you can tell Mnet is pushing him.
I really hope people can remember that the contestants have no influence over their screentime (and the editing in general ofc). I fear this turning into another Dayeon situation.
@Star Train I‘m referring to the fact that during Girls Planet 999, Dayeon was pretty universally considered MMet‘s Favorite.
This came to a head when during one episode teams went on trips. All well and good until it was revealed that Dayeons time was sent to Dayeons house in order to perform for Dayeons mom. After this episode a lot of hate was sent Dayeons way due to the very blatant favoritism by Mnet.
I hope that explains what I mean. I think Mnet has also been pushing Gunwook and I just hope that Mnet doesn‘t take it as far this time, because too much screen time can also result in hate towards the trainees.
@Star Train For Dayeon? Mnet gave her decent screen time and a storyline from the start.
If I remember correctly they refused to give her the Girls planet version of „All Star“ during the auditions, despite her quite obviously deserving it skill wise. The reason for this was most likely them trying to give her an underdog story line.
Like I said, at the beginning people didn‘t mind her being heavily featured. After all Mnet always picks like 20 trainees they would like to debut and gives them a lot of screen time.
If you are interested in who Mnet seems to be trying to push this season: serikeu just did a great video called „i already predicted the end of boys planet“ that goes over all the favored trainees so far.
@Star Train I personally feel it was noticeable pretty much from the start. As soon as they had given her an underdog story line at least. Which started right after her audition performance.
Jay is the reason I am evern watching this bloomin programme. And fr this shoe will be somehow dodgy, but I hope the trainees will gain useful experience, and us voters will not believe the editing
am I the only one who found it weird when someone from the k group said “k group is superior” “it’s kpop” to defend k group as if because the others are foreign they can’t be k artists?
they are also showing this particular boy his reactions in every performance, i'll screenshot if i watched again
Who?
Here we go again ! So glad you do this again 😊
If we go by what the twins said last season, Mnet chooses the evaluation songs for the trainees and they get no say. So it’s likely the Shine/Kick It/My House moments are all staged to create a narrative.
I will watch bp for Anthonny only. Since produce 101, he's been my fav. He may not be the most talented person there, but he's definitely got the talent has a decent vocal skills and dancing skills + looks and his personality and adorable traits is what I'm here for. MNET keeps on cutting him even in Their Performance his vocal part was cut off. MNET BEEFING WITH ANTHONNY as always. From the pictures to their performance. To be clear, i know ruto deserved that and I'm not hating on him, I'm just saying that they all deserve better. They made Anthonny and Min invisible.... My gawd.
i think them pointing out that the trainees are singing live by saying things like "is he really singing live?" etc. is supposed to just be a compliment, like their vocals sound so good it has to be a recording, contrary to that meaning there are trainees who don't sing live
okay so i wasn't aware of jay's accusations until after i posted this video but there are threads debunking this so i hope you will all check it out and then form your own opinions - i really don't want a garam or jimin 2.0
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1:40 You would be rich now, if you take money for that bingo. Like, mnet are not even trying😂
Bahahaha so true 🤣
Nah Park Gunwook is all rounder that is not mnet saying cause he already had exprience in a survival show called Wild Idol he knows how to sing, rap and write lyrics for the song's he even wrote final song's lyrics for the final episode of the survival show he was eliminated in the final's not making him a member of boygroup TAN.
So far 1 episode was not as bad as i thought i thought it would be worse but it was ok so we will see i'm roothing for my guy Ricky.
When they said Ricky probably bought the 10000$ violin for him.. lmaooo
Man, I saw Hui cried and everything, I hate mnet, he's literally Yujin 2.0 in here (the shine performance was... interesting to say the least)
yesss...
All I've seen from boys planet is that one group of boys who performed skz gods menu
Looking forward for the bingo updates for sureeee
haha yay
the ep was so fun but ngl I'm kinda disappointed the show is becoming produce all over again like even gp999 was 80% the same as any produce season but it had so many new aspects (cells, no labels names being dropped, trainees being already ranked before with centers being chosen and everything) like it made the show way more interesting to me but this one is just produce all over again even down to the mentors/trainers but I'll definitely enjoy it regardless (seok matthew WILL DEBUT)
ooh i so feel you in all of that !!!
That's to...
And i want my trisula center TT TT
it seems that mnet has adopted a new system where the hosts are called star masters and they will change each mission. so currently the star master is hwang minhyun but it would change to another host after the first mission
I must admit that Mnet's bias is already obvious this early in the show, but I can't really feel bad about it because literally most of my top picks are being highlighted :""") But what is definitely unfair is Mnet deliberately cutting good performances from the episodes - Kamden and the Vietnam trainees deserved better.
Thanks ! I'll always watch ur videos cuz u r really amazing at summarising it all ! Thanks a lot for the videos and keep 'em coming! Fighting!! Stay hydrated and smile ! 🤗
I noticed that they didnt include the stage performance where Krystian was in :(
You can tell they dont want him already 😅 ahhhhhhh
they didn’t include it but they did include a scene where the judges were supposedly yelling at his group for doing bad in their performance but a krystian fan on twitter later exposed mnet and said that same scene where the judges were allegedly yelling at his group for doing bad, krystian and his team-mates were actually sitting in the back which only means the judges were actually yelling at another group in that scene but mnet evil edited it to make it seem like they were yelling at his group for doing bad.
@@danield2815 first case of evil editing…. Nice mnet. Very nice /;(
Krystian and his team didnt deserve this. I hope he debuts so mnet will see that their favoritism won’t work every time.
@@annanowak9620 yep and many ppl on twt said that he actually did very well compared to his other teammates and mnet could’ve easily edited him to be the next yurina or xiaoting but mnet obviously doesn’t want him to debut so they brought him down with the rest
@@danield2815 EXACTLY 😠
Enjoyed this overview. I watched the episode tonight, and I have such mixed feelings about Hui and also Xiao (Lee Dong Yeol) and Hwanhee from UP10TION. I want to support them but also want them back with their groups. Pentagon is one of my three ult groups (along with my No. 1 SF9 and SHINee), and Hwanhee is one of my favorite vocalists. And I don't want to see happen to him and Xiao what did to Wooseok and Jinhyuk after Produce X 101 (them never going back to UP10TION even though they are technically still members of the group). Outside of idols who have already debuted, my favorite is Gun Wook. He was one of my faves when he was on Wild Idol, and it was obvious he was talented then (in the fall of 2021) when he was still 16. He's only just turned 18 now and already has such confidence and stage presence.
Okay I just watched the episode 1 too 🤧
My top 9 picks as for now are..
1 Sung Hanbin
2. Kim Jiwoong
3. Han Yujin
4. Seok Matthew
5. Jay
6. Lee Hotaek
7. Zhanghao
8. Gyuvin
9. Keita
Why are everyone picks the same 7 with 2 extras
Please check out zhang hao. G group center. He so amazing 💚🥺
@@Lesseodollboy mines are almost completely different LOL
Charisma boss baby Ricky is not cringe, h'e's a slay
mnet is not just biased but biased in the same way over and over again. they don't look at the contestants and pick the best. they just want the kids that fit their "k-pop standard" mold best.
thank you for voting for Ollieeee, i love him so so much
Thanks for summarizing the episode. I don't have time to watch the whole episodes so I'm watching official mnet clips instead.
So far I only have two korean picks. Its a shame if the ratio of korean to global is 2:1. Most of the line-up would be boys I didn't like or felt indifferent about. Well that's if I continue to pick global contestants.
I hope you continue this series, if it isn't to much for you.
Thank you for watching i will defo continue
They did show significantly more G-group performances this ep than K, they're probably saving up the best from K-group for next week
Mnet already found their favorites me thinks
yep...
The ones who deserve it the most based on the voting results are
Na Kamden: Performed with Jay and started off the song and wrote his own rap, yet wasn't shown at all + his rap was cut off
Yoo Seung Eon: Performed as part of K group Yue Ha trainees, he did the high note in Kick It, yet he was barely shown, instead Yujin and Gyu Vin got more solo screentime. Zhang Hao too has a greater fanbase which I'm not against but Idk why Yoo seung Eon isn't getting the same hype when he also did the high note and can sing well.
Lee Hwan Hee:
Kum Jun Hyeon: Although he wasn't cut out and got a lot of screentime from the show, his vocals are barely shown, mnet is creating him as this funny entertainer guy, because of how funny his reactions are, that when I searcged him up I was surprised at how amazing his vocals are its giving rnb
Kim Tae Rae:
Jeong Ichan:
Lee Yedam:
Wumuti: His performance was not shown even though it was perfect and he sounded like Baekhyun literally, despite being a former member of the Chinese boy group SWIN and its sub-unit SWIN-Se and also being a contestant of the survival show Under Nineteen and training for 6 years and 4 months, it's just sad how little of his talent is being shown
13:31 I can see that, but Gyuvin actually reminds me a lot of Minhee (X1/Cravity), like the resemblance imo is craaazy. Especially with both being tall too lol
I'm not sure if it's true but I heard they were cousins
@@ranyadej9340 yes
Actually there is a host,he’s hwang Minh yum but I have no idea why he was not in the episode,maybe he’ll appear in the later episodes
About the vocals - everyone is singing live in the auditions, but some of them are autotuned and some of them aren’t. Matthew Seok’s performance was pitch corrected whereas Hanbin’s wasn’t, for example.
And because I know some people see “autotune/pitch correction” and automatically assume this is a malicious comment: Matthew sounded nearly the same with and without pitch correction. You can hear the difference in the broadcast version and the full fancam version though.
The same with haruto unstable voice but they cut it ,😂And still he got all star .. .for me episode one sung hanbin and zhang hao,Anthony (but the video was cut) did a good job. For singing it live
There are no hosts for this season. But there's a Star Master which works just like the host. They will change Star Master for each mission. The first Star Master is Nu'est's Minhyun
I don't understand how gyuvin was given an all star when they barely noticed him in the group performance and people like Gunwook and Hanbin didn't? Make it make sense. I don't think Haruto deserved all stars either with his vocals but awell
Rickys introduction when all the boys had like a minute to name some interests and stuff - charisma boss baby ricky (T o T) i was crying laughing, it felt like watching something insanely feral queer coded
The favour editing in this show is actually real cause if u watch the full clip of harutos groups performance his singing was kinda bad and his voice was cracking while Antony absolutely slayed that performance but they didn't show that cause they want ppl to love haruto more
Fun Fact to the performance between Bak Doha and Jung Mingyu their shirts are actually the complementary colours: Red & Green ! so pretty possible it was set up
8:35 i personally love Haruto because i have already seen him on LOUD (th survival show of Jyp and Psy) and i find that he was very funny and cute and absolutely outstanding on stage
Although i really liked some of the performances i did think that mnet only shows and gives more screentime to one member who they want to debut
Like in kick it
They kept showing and giving more screentime to one member from the group
Thinking about it, I feel bad for the trainees that performed with the trainees that left before the show even aired. It’s highly probable that their performances won’t get aired in the episode. Meaning that no chance to show off their skills unless Mnet is kind enough to blur some faces, but the full performance likely won’t get aired in the episode.
6:53 I think they could have gone with a VIXX song, since they were (and, in some ways still are) more popular than Verivery. Maybe not Shangri La (bc it’s overdone) or any with heavy theming (bc it wouldn’t appeal to general audiences), but Chained Up could have been a good choice, specially if they invented a small dance break to show off.
Lol personally the rich and handsome tall and young is a good meme and pretty iconic 💀
Ikr! Even I thought why the hell are they fighting each other for that cursed seat??!!
The collab stage between Hanbin and Lip J is definitely staged XD It's the way they acted like it was their first time meeting for me
I had my own bingo going on whilst watching it and I'm glad that I played it out as a bingo not a drinking game as I'd 100% still be in the hospital if I drank at every exaggerated reaction edit or evil/angel edit
In the first part of the episode, where a 'bot' is saying something, it said that the Star Master (Host/MC) changes every performance. So they will get different MC every performance. The MC for the first performance was Minhyun, let's see who will be the next.