Because some benchmarks showed that all 120mm fan is basically the same as mixing some 140s... And most of the pc cases don't allow 6x 140s so you will end up mixing 120s aswell
@@kibels894 Would still be useful to see, especially because a lot of the best 120mm fans (Gentle Typhoon, T30, AF12x25, etc) don't have 140mm variants. I have 4 140mm fans in my case (Corsair 4000d airflow, 2x 140mm in front and 2x 140mm up top on my AIO), so it'd be really nice to know what the best 140mm fans are, especially since 140mm fans have the chance of being quieter than 120mm while moving the same or more air. Also, as someone who just replaced my 3x 120mm front fans with 2x 140mm, 140mm fans have a much nicer noise to me
I would love to get an indepth review of the 140mm version as well. For all the naysayers: it is relevant for those that use them in their cases/on their radiators. 😅
I decided try the Pro 4 in addition to my Noctua A12x25 and have been impressed. They move as much air as the Noctua at the same RPM, so even performance there, but if you run the BQ fan at 2000rpm and the noctua at 2000rpm, the BQ is quieter.
Totally agree with you that it would be incredible to see what they could do with a 30mm thick version! I had to keep reminding myself of the huge disadvantage it had compared to the T30, and how impressive it was to be so close to it!
For me the champion of this comparison is the Nidec gentle typhoon. At 20 bucks, it got quite close to the top at the 39 dB test on both radiator and air cooler, which makes it a far better choice than 30+ options
I use the XPG Vento Pro (gt2150)... On my ZZAW B6 14L case, With 2 intake, 1 on the Thermalright SI-100 low profile cooler and 1 top exhaust... I set all 4 to lowest (930rpm). I can barely here them. I work and play all day... CPU max is $43 (i5-12400), mobo is Gigabyte Aorus Z690i ultra lite d4, VRM max 42c, PCH 47c, gpu rx5500 max 51c.... When not gaming, I Zip and unZip and lot of files, render music and video... Gentle Typhoons are great
Thank you man! This might be the only fan video I've ever watched that has the information exactly how I wanted it, with all the fans I wanted compared, amazing!
Just replaced an HSF and a rear case fan with a Be Quiet Silent Wings 4 120mm (for the HSF) and a BQ Silent Wings 4 120mm PWM high-speed (for the rear case exhaust fan). I've been a major Noctua fanboy for well over a decade, but the Be Quiet fans have seriously impressed me! And it's true, I notice the different in weight from the moment I picked up the boxed fans...each box was heavy. Removing the fans from their box, they were heavy too. Built like a German tank. And they are really moving a lot more air than the Noctuas they replaced. I'm glad I tried them out and am more willing in the future to research other brands of fans. (to be clear though, Noctua is still a 1st tier cooler and fan producer).
@@thisisahandleefdhgfgg well ,serious benchmarkers will use liquid nitrogen , which will probably cost them less than the difference that these fans have..
I bought five Silent Wings 4 PWM fans, installed three of them as front-case intake fans, and all three of them emitted a grindy sound when spinning up or down their RPMs at times, and had a dirty spinning sound that was distracting and unpleasant. I returned them. My Arctic P14s are way smoother-sounding and without any rattling noise. I'm still looking for something to replace the P14s, though - something that's better, not worse. I'm thinking of trying the P14 A-RGB or P14 Max.
I remember buying the Noctua PPC 2000 fans a couple of years back based on the in general positive attitude towards Noctua. This was to increase my airflow in the NZXT H700i case. It's interesting how I basically chose the worst fans for the job lol.
@@AlanGresham Probably gonna give mine away to my nephew as well. Considering buying the Phanteks T30's for my Fractal North XL case. Though I am considering waiting forthe 140mm variant.
Still waiting for 200mm options that are designed like these. It's niche until you try it, then it's mandatory and built around. 2x200mm > 3x140mm not for the performance, but for the price and sound difference at near enough the same performance, and even 2x A20s: $60 3xA14's:$72 -$12 that I can put towards something else, and a much quieter rig
I know that Lian Li's unifans aren't about performance and more about ease of use and aesthetics, but I still wonder how their SL120 V2s would compare.
I love these best performer but can't buy anywhere in my country so I'm still using generic fans that suck, and I like those low profile coolers videos of yours I hope you can keep making these amazing videos.
I always get caught up with the latest and greatest in PC cooling stuff, but in reality I've never noticed a difference when my CPUs ran at ~55C or 80C. They may not last as long at 80C (doubt it'll matter even at 90C), but the performance is the same, at least what I've seen since Ryzen R 1X00. Not going to sweat over losing ~4C, especially since I already have Noctuas.
Most users only use a fraction of their CPU capability so a CPU cooler seldom gets a workout. If you have a powerful graphics card it is likely the biggest noise source while gaming. Feeding cool air to the internals of most decent cases is a relatively low noise task if you have at least 4 case fans and an oversized power supply. In summary the case and radiator fans should not be much of a noise issue unless they are badly tuned or fitted in a bad case.
Amen, P12s on the rad, and Scythe Kaze Flex's on the case. It's been treating me real good since 2020 started, and way better than my first 2015 build.
Can you add the rpm of the fan to know how much air does in CFM? because for expirience all fan more than 1000 rpm or 1300 rpm are noisi. For example: fan at 1200 rpm does 45CMF .Epic review as always !
I'd love to have a dB to RPM curve. Most of us don't have a quality microphone to test fan noise so having the RPM reading would allow us to set the optimal RPM on our fans. Otherwise, amazing job 😁👍
Very interesting. Next I would like to see the Lian-Li Unifans added to your testing. The reduction in complexity with radiators is game changing and I wonder how much, if any, performance you give up with them
I'm still sticking with my gentle typhoons. They are still in the top tier of performers and last literally forever. I have a GT 1450 rpm that has been cooling a media center for over 10 years. That's 100% speed straight 12v for 10 years. It's still as quiet and smooth as ever.
I wonder if this testing was done incorrectly or correctly, because it has become general knowledge that these come close to, but cannot beat the Noctua A25's in noise normalized tests and that they are a good third option behind the T30s (buy for performance and relatively good noise levels) and the Noctua's (buy for a quiet system)
Why would you buy noctuas over the T30 for a quiet system? If you match the CFM of both, you can run T30's slower and quieter than the likes of the NF-A12x25. And if you match the noise levels, the T30 once again pushes significantly more air at the same Dba Just because they can do fast, doesnt mean you have to
You notice the noise normalized tests are done at 39db? This is substantively louder than a PS5 or a Xbox Series X. For people who are building a "standard" gaming setup, a noise normalized test at 35db makes more sense IMO. All these tests were done between 2000-3000 rpm. If you do a 1000-1250rpm test you are going to get very different results.
@@phuocluong8083 specs are never to be trusted. the m25 doesn't share any design with the t30. the blades are completely different, and the materials are different too. maybe the m25 is a good budget fan, but it's not the same tier of fan as the t30 or silent wings pro 4
@@-opus I think excess liquidity has something to do with it. The fact the people whine for 1k gpus and buys 40$ fans is the result of some crazy market distortion (imho)
Might be a great fan, but I’m glad I invested in 6 Noctua NF-A12x25 and I’m keeping them until they break. Ugly as they may be, they are just purely great 🙌 my apartment’s ventilation is louder than my PC 😅
So I bought 3 Nidec GT1850RPM in 2012 (14€ per piece, around 20 USD at that time I suppose) and still seems I don't have to buy new ones. Great. I hope one day there is a big finding and we can get a big improvement in fans, but these are cool.
Fans have gotten far too expensive nowadays. I remember buying the Cryorig Performance fans just a couple years ago for $12-$15 a piece. Now they're $35-$40 a piece and they don't even have RGB. And that's not even a well known brand name. Get into better known brands and they can be even more expensive for a single fan. The greedy PC component manufacturers are going to ensure that the entire custom PC market collapses before it's over.
Is it possible to redo the tests, but with a thicker radiator? Like 38-44mm. That will really test the fans in regards to static pressure. The H60 is only 27mm thick.
Top notch work as usual. One small suggestion, the color coding might be confusing for some that are checking and hearing these metrics and numbers for the first time (grey, light grey and orange highlight). Regardsd
I think that Be Quiet has really upped their “game” with these new fans, but for now, I’ll stick with my Noctua fans. The Worlds economies are in distress right now and prices for goods are in a constant state of flux. So, buying new fans because they might be a little better isn’t really a priority these days. I do like the fans, though. 😊
I use BeQuiet for almost 20 years now. Never had single failure. Not even bearing noises or something. They not the cheapest or most efficient(and not even the quietest😂) But they have extensive accessories and the build quality is great.
I’ll probably still stick with the Arctic P12 because it’s cheap and somehow still great on radiators in my past experience relative to stock AIO fans, but it’s good to see beQuiet giving Noctua a run for its money and I love options the next time I look for an upgrade
Put a 120 and a couple 140's in my mom's office PC, and she has to check that the fans are spinning to know if it's even on because they're so damn quiet lmao
If you plan on keeping these for multiple systems it can be a benefit. The hard moulding is a strain relief for the connectors where that flex can damage them, also they are flexible earlier as you can see the heat shrink wrap on the stock connector continues further
This is the most fucking amazing fan comparison I have ever seen in my entire life. It literally shows you exactly what you need to know, in real world cases and even presented with such nice graphics. Well done!
Switched to some SilentWings after years of Noctua purchases. Big mistake. One failed, the other had excessive motor noise (mechanical) after just 6 months use. I'd used Noctua fans for a decade without a single issue. Will not buy SilentWings again; back to Noctua quality for me.
My case came with ASUS fans, so I don't plan to replace them, but it's cool to see how good these ones are in case I need replacements. These having a 5 year warranty vs ASUS 2 year limited warranty is nuts.
What a coincidence, I've been eyeing these the past couple days after I saw your other comparison video. I was looking into the Gentle Typhoons and Noctuas as well as Be Quiets. The Gentle Typhoons didn't seem to come in 140mm and although the Noctuas don't have rgb which is how I like it, I can't get over the color scheme since I'm looking for dark fans to match my case. I recently ordered a prebuilt from ibuypower, a decision I regret. Aside from the fact that they didn't give me the 3080 ti open air gpu I specifically requested and opted for a blower style 3080ti, they also took the case fans I requested, stuck them onto the cpu aio, installed their own bare bones case fans in the case where the ones I requested were supposed to go, and stuck the fans that were supposed to go with the aio in the accessory pouch. Tangent aside, the Silent Wings 4s caught my eye with the long potential operating hours. My whole reason for going with a prebuilt instead of just doing it myself is that I've only built 1.5 computers before. I first did it 8 years ago and upgraded many of the parts 4 years ago. I didn't want to bother with cable management and wires and wanted a professional job done on those aspects especially since I wanted a Hyte y60 and wasn't confident in my own abilities, but now I'm going to have to do it anyways.
Would like to see how the new Montech Metal 120mm and the Phanteks M25 fans stack up to these fans given the price point for them and just came out in the last couple months.
@@notBeWitchy I would refrain from spending money on high-end fans like this to put on an 240mm AIO cooler. The performance gains won't match the cost at all. Fans like that are mostly relevant for open loop watercooling. Sure, they can help to provide the most quiet systems when a proper fan curve is applied and everything else is optimized, too. But in a system like that you likely will not want an AIO since their pumps often end up being audible over everything else.
Just yesterday I got a new case and I put in 3x 120mm and 3x 140mm Be Quiet silent Wings 4 fans in there and they're the best fans I've ever seen, on top of that I have a CPU cooler form Be Quiet (Dark Rock 4 pro) which has another 2 Be Quiet fans on there which I believe to be Be Quiet silent Wings 3 fans and this entire system is so quiet plus the cooling is amazing. The non pro version of the Be Quiet silent Wings 4 fans is a lot cheaper for the people not having the budget for the pros.
@@Kruxarn 10 day late reply lol my bad, but oh I know exactly what you mean 😂 from mine it was around $180 before taxes so I can already imagine how your price was. How’s that cooling tho? 😏👀
Your amazon link also has a non-pro version of the Silent Wings 4 for $24-$25 depending on size. I think the "4" version should replace your "3" version in comparison tests.
Damn what are the odds. I'm actually thinking of replacing my fans and lo and behold, your vid was here when I opened youtube. Waiting for noctua's answer to bequiet's fans.
I gotta be honest man, I'm pretty surprised the Arctic fans didn't do better. They have been my go-to for a couple years now in three different builds - and not just because they're cheap either. I've owned and used 5 of the fans in that roundup, plus some really nice fans from Fractal that never get any publicity at all. I'd rank the ones I've tried in my setups as such: Gentle Typhoon, Arctic P12 (and the RGB variant as well), Fractal Dynamic, Phanteks PH-F120MP, Noctua NF-A12, Silent Wings 3, Thermaltake Riing Trio (best RGB, worst software), *any* stock fan, and lastly every Corsair fan I've ever owned including the ML120 pro
I love these fan tests and hope you're able to continue them throughout the new year. I would absolutely buy these or T30s for CPU cooling if mine was pulling more power, but that seems like the only use. When I setup my 5000D I bought a 5 pack of Arctic P12 fans for $30 and they're still working great. I just don't see the value behind the higher end fans outside of direct CPU/GPU cooling unless perhaps you were restricted by SFF and only had 1 fan mount.
I imagine the higher end fans will last longer. Peace of mind and quality control are valuable. Like, the new p12 max from arctics would be amazing they didn't have horrendous quality control making their predecessor a better option. Plus, noctua supports decade old coolers with free mounting brackets, the postage would cost more than the bracket itself. That kind of customer service demands a higher price. Don't know about bequiet's support, but I'm sure it's better than Arctics. I like saving money, but I'm willing to pay a premium for a company that supports its users.
Ball bearing fans last the longest. The downside is even on the good models hub noise is still somewhat a lottery, and even on a good sample from a good brand there could still be some hub noise, they aren't absolutely silent. But they last like twice as long as other bearing technologies. Still, it's debatable how valuable that is, since they can develop noise long before actually failing like other types of bearings, even if they take a lot longer to fail. In my own almost 20 years of using PC fans I've only had a few sleeve bearing fans actually fail outright, and I could have maybe fixed those with disassembly. A lot of the top performers are ball bearing though (since they're based on server fans originally), so I among that group I tend to look at what's priced the best. GTs at $20 when you can get them are still amazing, but I've seen the Cm SF-120M and Wonder Snail as low as $11, and at that price I would take them easily over a P12.
If only be quiet! saw this. It doesn't seem to have amny views yet has pribably the best business ideas for them. I hope they listen. They're my favourite company.
My guess is that once the 011 EVO XL finally hits the market, 140mm fans will see a huge surge in usage and reviews. I'm just imagining a blacked out 011 EVO with three 420mm rads with 10 Silent Wing Pro 4 fans...I can't wait.
Using 10 Phanteks T30, fantastic fans, but the Silent Wings Pro 4 does a fantastic job being standard thickness. If it was today, I wouldn't hesitate in opting for them.
@@ahsookee i have 10 fans (6 intake 4 exhaust) in my O11 Dynamic XL so it’s definitely doable :D though i opted for the much cheaper Arctic P12 ARGB PST PWM
Hi, I noticed something weird since I got my hands on these fans, I got 3 of them for my AIO. I set them to UHS mode, which should give me a 3000rpm highest speed, but all my software are reading each and every one of them at 2750-2800rpm max speed. I have a Noctua-Bequiet combo, so I am sure it is not my fan headers problem, since I tested each one of them though multiple fan headers on motherboard, and the noctua's speed could be readed out correctly. Can you do a quick test to see if yours are capped at somewhere below the rated 3000rpm?
I'd love a 15mm BeQuiet to upgrade the performance from my A12x15 in my Darkflash mini-ITX case where there is only room for a pair of 15mm fans to mount on the case between the case, and a fanless C14S
Personally use all be quiet 140 fans for case airflow, and 3 t30 on my liquid freezer 360. PC is nearly inaudible even under full load. It's to a point where even just having my open back hd660s on makes it completely inaudible to me. That being said, all my fans curves are optimized for noise rather then temps, but my 3080 strix only gets to 75c, and my 5800x3d to 65c.
5-pack p12 pwm is just 30USD here. A single pro 4 is 34USD. It might be good, but some cases can fit 9-10 120mm fans. 340USD is just crazy compared to 60USD. The T30 is 36USD.
Amazing content on this channel! With that being said, I must say that these results vary WILDLY from my own experience. I am running 5x Silent Wings 140 Pro on radiators, and in the video during the "Restricted Aírflow @ 39dBA" it mentions that HC was able to run them at 2050RPM. At 2050RPM mine genereated 56db! I had to take them all the way down to 1100RPM to hit 39db, which means they generate more noise than the Arctic P14's I was running before at the same speeds.
Molded header was a terrible idea. So many builds I've had to flatten the cable to 90° right off the connector. Going to cause a lot of combatility issues for a lot of people.
I am planning an almost entirely Be Quiet! build, not AIO. Are the fans daisy chained, is there a hub? I don’t care about RGB. What’s the best Canadian supplier(s)?
No 140mm test? Seems like 140mms always get overlooked
They aren't super useful except as front case fans with no front radiator
Because some benchmarks showed that all 120mm fan is basically the same as mixing some 140s... And most of the pc cases don't allow 6x 140s so you will end up mixing 120s aswell
@@Jean-bs5ip I find the sound of 140mm less intrusive
Also, you can't get a 420mm radiators with 120mm fans 😎
@@kibels894 Would still be useful to see, especially because a lot of the best 120mm fans (Gentle Typhoon, T30, AF12x25, etc) don't have 140mm variants.
I have 4 140mm fans in my case (Corsair 4000d airflow, 2x 140mm in front and 2x 140mm up top on my AIO), so it'd be really nice to know what the best 140mm fans are, especially since 140mm fans have the chance of being quieter than 120mm while moving the same or more air. Also, as someone who just replaced my 3x 120mm front fans with 2x 140mm, 140mm fans have a much nicer noise to me
I would love to get an indepth review of the 140mm version as well. For all the naysayers: it is relevant for those that use them in their cases/on their radiators. 😅
I decided try the Pro 4 in addition to my Noctua A12x25 and have been impressed. They move as much air as the Noctua at the same RPM, so even performance there, but if you run the BQ fan at 2000rpm and the noctua at 2000rpm, the BQ is quieter.
Excellent review! Thank you for the feedback.
We are very hyped you like the new flagship fans.
please make a performance - daisy chain fan +30mm thick
this would be a kiler
Totally agree with you that it would be incredible to see what they could do with a 30mm thick version! I had to keep reminding myself of the huge disadvantage it had compared to the T30, and how impressive it was to be so close to it!
For me the champion of this comparison is the Nidec gentle typhoon. At 20 bucks, it got quite close to the top at the 39 dB test on both radiator and air cooler, which makes it a far better choice than 30+ options
It's the grandaddy of all these fans anyway. People think Noctua started that design when it was really Nidec.
I use the XPG Vento Pro (gt2150)... On my ZZAW B6 14L case, With 2 intake, 1 on the Thermalright SI-100 low profile cooler and 1 top exhaust... I set all 4 to lowest (930rpm). I can barely here them. I work and play all day... CPU max is $43 (i5-12400), mobo is Gigabyte Aorus Z690i ultra lite d4, VRM max 42c, PCH 47c, gpu rx5500 max 51c.... When not gaming, I Zip and unZip and lot of files, render music and video... Gentle Typhoons are great
@@elteacher0223do they still sell the gentle typhoon or is it renamed under the XPG vento pro?
Thank you man! This might be the only fan video I've ever watched that has the information exactly how I wanted it, with all the fans I wanted compared, amazing!
1:55 That shot is amazing!
Just replaced an HSF and a rear case fan with a Be Quiet Silent Wings 4 120mm (for the HSF) and a BQ Silent Wings 4 120mm PWM high-speed (for the rear case exhaust fan). I've been a major Noctua fanboy for well over a decade, but the Be Quiet fans have seriously impressed me! And it's true, I notice the different in weight from the moment I picked up the boxed fans...each box was heavy. Removing the fans from their box, they were heavy too. Built like a German tank. And they are really moving a lot more air than the Noctuas they replaced. I'm glad I tried them out and am more willing in the future to research other brands of fans. (to be clear though, Noctua is still a 1st tier cooler and fan producer).
my humble 10$ arctic p12 is holding its own ..
I added one to my Silencio case, it's quieter and moves more air than the stock Silencio FP fans.
It doesn’t make sense to use anything other than the p12s. Is one of the cheapest fans yet performs like a Noctua if not better
@@thisisahandleefdhgfgg well ,serious benchmarkers will use liquid nitrogen , which will probably cost them less than the difference that these fans have..
The price of this fan is incredible. You can just have more of them and do the same job if not better than one t30 ie.
I bought five Silent Wings 4 PWM fans, installed three of them as front-case intake fans, and all three of them emitted a grindy sound when spinning up or down their RPMs at times, and had a dirty spinning sound that was distracting and unpleasant. I returned them. My Arctic P14s are way smoother-sounding and without any rattling noise. I'm still looking for something to replace the P14s, though - something that's better, not worse. I'm thinking of trying the P14 A-RGB or P14 Max.
Finally someone covers these fans in a good way. Very impressed.
I remember buying the Noctua PPC 2000 fans a couple of years back based on the in general positive attitude towards Noctua. This was to increase my airflow in the NZXT H700i case. It's interesting how I basically chose the worst fans for the job lol.
Meanwhile the Gentle Typhoons sitting around like "Everybody forgot about me or something??"
I did this too. Paid what seemed like a fortune and ended up giving them away in a PC that I built for my brother.
@@AlanGresham Probably gonna give mine away to my nephew as well. Considering buying the Phanteks T30's for my Fractal North XL case. Though I am considering waiting forthe 140mm variant.
I only care about 140mm or 180mm now. 180 is still quite niche, but 140mm has tons of options
Still waiting for 200mm options that are designed like these.
It's niche until you try it, then it's mandatory and built around.
2x200mm > 3x140mm not for the performance, but for the price and sound difference at near enough the same performance, and even 2x A20s: $60 3xA14's:$72
-$12 that I can put towards something else, and a much quieter rig
@@Justifier except that majority of use cases don't support 200mm. Hence why they're still so niche
@@aerosw1ft I had a old nzxt phantom case from 2012 that had a 200mm side fan. Those were the days
140mm is the shit dude 👍🏻👍🏻
Fractal Torrent?
I know that Lian Li's unifans aren't about performance and more about ease of use and aesthetics, but I still wonder how their SL120 V2s would compare.
Wait for Lian Li's next gen unifans. They're made with LCP and geared towards performance with RGB.
@@panzer3279 Is there a source for this? I'm honestly curious and would be excited for this.
@@Shyvorix Gamer's Nexus recently made a video on Lian Li's upcoming products. You can see some prototypes in that video.
@@panzer3279 Will they work with ASUS Aura Sync and other major mobo ARGB setups or you have to use Lian-Li's L-Connect software?
I love these best performer but can't buy anywhere in my country so I'm still using generic fans that suck, and I like those low profile coolers videos of yours I hope you can keep making these amazing videos.
Are you forced to buy domestic?
@@dreamshooter90 Actually these brand don't have any franchise here and importing costs a lot so I have to get what is available.
@@AKG58Z Damn dude... That sucks. If you ever go to a different country where you can get the parts you need you're should cease the opportunity then.
All fans suck
@@dreamshooter90 Yeah sure why not recently I wanted to get itx case like Formd T1 or ghost s1 but then again can't buy them anywhere.
I always get caught up with the latest and greatest in PC cooling stuff, but in reality I've never noticed a difference when my CPUs ran at ~55C or 80C. They may not last as long at 80C (doubt it'll matter even at 90C), but the performance is the same, at least what I've seen since Ryzen R 1X00. Not going to sweat over losing ~4C, especially since I already have Noctuas.
The price of these things pretty much killed it for me. I'll just stick with my Arctic P12s. They're quiet enough and give me temps I'm happy with.
Still rocking my gentle typhoons from 12 years ago. Everything else gets outdated or fails, good fans stay forever.
Most users only use a fraction of their CPU capability so a CPU cooler seldom gets a workout. If you have a powerful graphics card it is likely the biggest noise source while gaming. Feeding cool air to the internals of most decent cases is a relatively low noise task if you have at least 4 case fans and an oversized power supply. In summary the case and radiator fans should not be much of a noise issue unless they are badly tuned or fitted in a bad case.
Amen, P12s on the rad, and Scythe Kaze Flex's on the case. It's been treating me real good since 2020 started, and way better than my first 2015 build.
Can you add the rpm of the fan to know how much air does in CFM? because for expirience all fan more than 1000 rpm or 1300 rpm are noisi. For example: fan at 1200 rpm does 45CMF .Epic review as always !
I'd love to have a dB to RPM curve. Most of us don't have a quality microphone to test fan noise so having the RPM reading would allow us to set the optimal RPM on our fans.
Otherwise, amazing job 😁👍
Very interesting.
Next I would like to see the Lian-Li Unifans added to your testing. The reduction in complexity with radiators is game changing and I wonder how much, if any, performance you give up with them
I'm still sticking with my gentle typhoons. They are still in the top tier of performers and last literally forever. I have a GT 1450 rpm that has been cooling a media center for over 10 years. That's 100% speed straight 12v for 10 years. It's still as quiet and smooth as ever.
Still have 8 running that I bought 12 years ago. Solid.
Uhhh i've been waiting for this one 😁 Thanks Mike, your reviews are the best!
Did you also test the 140mm version? Design looks diffrent - less wings
Not yet.
@@HardwareCanucks if you can please do, they cost 2 dollars more if the performance scales would be the best thing for front intake air.
@@HardwareCanucks yes, please do that, there's a lot more choice in 120mm fans and many people have probably settled with noctuas or t30 already.
I wonder if this testing was done incorrectly or correctly, because it has become general knowledge that these come close to, but cannot beat the Noctua A25's in noise normalized tests and that they are a good third option behind the T30s (buy for performance and relatively good noise levels) and the Noctua's (buy for a quiet system)
@@user-rn9bo8io1e Yeah, very sussy
Why would you buy noctuas over the T30 for a quiet system?
If you match the CFM of both, you can run T30's slower and quieter than the likes of the NF-A12x25. And if you match the noise levels, the T30 once again pushes significantly more air at the same Dba
Just because they can do fast, doesnt mean you have to
@@coololly Because they have reports of ticking at low RPMs; the Noctua's don't
You are right. These tests make no sense.
You notice the noise normalized tests are done at 39db? This is substantively louder than a PS5 or a Xbox Series X. For people who are building a "standard" gaming setup, a noise normalized test at 35db makes more sense IMO. All these tests were done between 2000-3000 rpm. If you do a 1000-1250rpm test you are going to get very different results.
I ve been looking into best fans for my meshilicious and Mike arrives like gandalf from east on the dawn of fifth day. Thanks a lot bud!!!
Would be nice to see how other Gentle Typhoon inspired fans like the Thermalright TL series and the Thermaltake ToughFan stack up to these
Would be interested to see the thermalright b12 / b12 extrem tests. The b12 seems to offer the same performance as the nf-a12 for half the price
i second this!
What about the Phantek m25, in my country i buy it by 6usd/fan.
@@phuocluong8083 the m25 isn't in the same league. it's a budget fan made with cheap materials and an average blade design.
120mm spech: cfm 84, Static Pressure 2.67. sharing some of its design with the T30, its not bad design , i have 8 fan, and they work perfect
@@phuocluong8083 specs are never to be trusted. the m25 doesn't share any design with the t30. the blades are completely different, and the materials are different too. maybe the m25 is a good budget fan, but it's not the same tier of fan as the t30 or silent wings pro 4
Scalping even fans now, what a crazy time for pc builders!?
What a crazy time for consumers. So many things, even innocuous items, getting scalped.
Standard noctua price
We are our own problem. If everyone jus buys Arctic and laughs at premium luxury fans, the problem would just go away
@@TFPMadcow Agreed, consumers continue to be the problem. If people make better choices, manufacturers and retailers have to respond.
@@-opus I think excess liquidity has something to do with it. The fact the people whine for 1k gpus and buys 40$ fans is the result of some crazy market distortion (imho)
please test the 140mm fans. I'm using a 420mm Radiator, and would love to see the performance of the 140mm version of these fans.
Might be a great fan, but I’m glad I invested in 6 Noctua NF-A12x25 and I’m keeping them until they break. Ugly as they may be, they are just purely great 🙌 my apartment’s ventilation is louder than my PC 😅
So I bought 3 Nidec GT1850RPM in 2012 (14€ per piece, around 20 USD at that time I suppose) and still seems I don't have to buy new ones. Great. I hope one day there is a big finding and we can get a big improvement in fans, but these are cool.
The latest ones marketed by XPG have higher RPM and lower noise due to improved ball bearings.
Would love to see a similar roundup of 140mm fans 🥰
The content is so good I had to pause to click subscribe, just to see that I already did 😂
I just want to mention that the Arctic P12 is performing great compared to priceperformance against the other fans.
Ya but it's a hummingbird
Fans have gotten far too expensive nowadays. I remember buying the Cryorig Performance fans just a couple years ago for $12-$15 a piece. Now they're $35-$40 a piece and they don't even have RGB. And that's not even a well known brand name. Get into better known brands and they can be even more expensive for a single fan. The greedy PC component manufacturers are going to ensure that the entire custom PC market collapses before it's over.
Is it possible to redo the tests, but with a thicker radiator? Like 38-44mm. That will really test the fans in regards to static pressure. The H60 is only 27mm thick.
Top notch work as usual. One small suggestion, the color coding might be confusing for some that are checking and hearing these metrics and numbers for the first time (grey, light grey and orange highlight).
Regardsd
I think that Be Quiet has really upped their “game” with these new fans, but for now, I’ll stick with my Noctua fans. The Worlds economies are in distress right now and prices for goods are in a constant state of flux. So, buying new fans because they might be a little better isn’t really a priority these days. I do like the fans, though. 😊
I use BeQuiet for almost 20 years now. Never had single failure. Not even bearing noises or something. They not the cheapest or most efficient(and not even the quietest😂) But they have extensive accessories and the build quality is great.
I’ll probably still stick with the Arctic P12 because it’s cheap and somehow still great on radiators in my past experience relative to stock AIO fans, but it’s good to see beQuiet giving Noctua a run for its money and I love options the next time I look for an upgrade
Same. I have P12s on my 240mm AIO and 3 on my case. The airflow on them is great while being quiet enough. They're budget kings still to this day.
Put a 120 and a couple 140's in my mom's office PC, and she has to check that the fans are spinning to know if it's even on because they're so damn quiet lmao
1:41 I'm sorry, how is that an improvement... Making the connector twice as long and rigid?
I got to that point in the video and was already smelling a lot of manufacturer's PR talking points coming off this one, so giving it a miss.
If you plan on keeping these for multiple systems it can be a benefit.
The hard moulding is a strain relief for the connectors where that flex can damage them, also they are flexible earlier as you can see the heat shrink wrap on the stock connector continues further
Mounting and unmounting on multiple systems. Not only that but the longer end is critical for tight spots especially in ITX systems.
This is the most fucking amazing fan comparison I have ever seen in my entire life. It literally shows you exactly what you need to know, in real world cases and even presented with such nice graphics. Well done!
Switched to some SilentWings after years of Noctua purchases. Big mistake. One failed, the other had excessive motor noise (mechanical) after just 6 months use. I'd used Noctua fans for a decade without a single issue. Will not buy SilentWings again; back to Noctua quality for me.
It's so facinating that there is still innovation and performance improvements for such a seemingly generic and simple thing like a fan.
Was just waiting for this video
My case came with ASUS fans, so I don't plan to replace them, but it's cool to see how good these ones are in case I need replacements. These having a 5 year warranty vs ASUS 2 year limited warranty is nuts.
thanks for making it clear that standard thickness fans are inadequate :)
What a coincidence, I've been eyeing these the past couple days after I saw your other comparison video. I was looking into the Gentle Typhoons and Noctuas as well as Be Quiets. The Gentle Typhoons didn't seem to come in 140mm and although the Noctuas don't have rgb which is how I like it, I can't get over the color scheme since I'm looking for dark fans to match my case. I recently ordered a prebuilt from ibuypower, a decision I regret. Aside from the fact that they didn't give me the 3080 ti open air gpu I specifically requested and opted for a blower style 3080ti, they also took the case fans I requested, stuck them onto the cpu aio, installed their own bare bones case fans in the case where the ones I requested were supposed to go, and stuck the fans that were supposed to go with the aio in the accessory pouch. Tangent aside, the Silent Wings 4s caught my eye with the long potential operating hours. My whole reason for going with a prebuilt instead of just doing it myself is that I've only built 1.5 computers before. I first did it 8 years ago and upgraded many of the parts 4 years ago. I didn't want to bother with cable management and wires and wanted a professional job done on those aspects especially since I wanted a Hyte y60 and wasn't confident in my own abilities, but now I'm going to have to do it anyways.
Would like to see how the new Montech Metal 120mm and the Phanteks M25 fans stack up to these fans given the price point for them and just came out in the last couple months.
Super hyped for the Dark Rock 5 Pro with these beauties on top
Damn those T30 are strong... I gotta find a way to put them in the A4-H2O with a radiator...Otherwise I know which fans to buy!
Well, they are 20% thicker than its competitors, too. Cannot beat physics :D
the ek basic aios fit with t30s in h2o. I thought about doing it but spending 80$ on 2 fans is insane.
@@notBeWitchy I would refrain from spending money on high-end fans like this to put on an 240mm AIO cooler. The performance gains won't match the cost at all. Fans like that are mostly relevant for open loop watercooling. Sure, they can help to provide the most quiet systems when a proper fan curve is applied and everything else is optimized, too. But in a system like that you likely will not want an AIO since their pumps often end up being audible over everything else.
Optimum Tech fit them, but these seem so close that you should probably go with them.
@@notBeWitchy yeah 80 got 2 fans is just ridiculous lmao
Could you do an updated video with these against the new Noctua 140mm fans, as case fans? Thanks!
One of the best tech youtuber's for sure. Great reviews as always
Id like to see a review of the new EK fpt fans
Just yesterday I got a new case and I put in 3x 120mm and 3x 140mm Be Quiet silent Wings 4 fans in there and they're the best fans I've ever seen, on top of that I have a CPU cooler form Be Quiet (Dark Rock 4 pro) which has another 2 Be Quiet fans on there which I believe to be Be Quiet silent Wings 3 fans and this entire system is so quiet plus the cooling is amazing.
The non pro version of the Be Quiet silent Wings 4 fans is a lot cheaper for the people not having the budget for the pros.
Happy New year
In Australia I just ordered the 120mm be quiets for 37AUD ea. Noctua equivalent is minimum 62AUD ea for brown and 85AUD for chromax...
I currently have 5 T30 fans in my Lian Li Air Mini case, could be 7 but I didn't change the fans for the AIO yet. They're freaking amazing!
13 T30 in my o11 evo :)
@@Kruxarn Jesus!!! That’s freaking awesome 😂
@@supertiger2607 Yes, but not cheap.😂
@@Kruxarn 10 day late reply lol my bad, but oh I know exactly what you mean 😂 from mine it was around $180 before taxes so I can already imagine how your price was. How’s that cooling tho? 😏👀
That noise to performance ratio looks incredible for being a 25mm fan!
Your amazon link also has a non-pro version of the Silent Wings 4 for $24-$25 depending on size. I think the "4" version should replace your "3" version in comparison tests.
Damn what are the odds. I'm actually thinking of replacing my fans and lo and behold, your vid was here when I opened youtube.
Waiting for noctua's answer to bequiet's fans.
I bought the T30 last year because of your video.
I gotta be honest man, I'm pretty surprised the Arctic fans didn't do better. They have been my go-to for a couple years now in three different builds - and not just because they're cheap either. I've owned and used 5 of the fans in that roundup, plus some really nice fans from Fractal that never get any publicity at all. I'd rank the ones I've tried in my setups as such: Gentle Typhoon, Arctic P12 (and the RGB variant as well), Fractal Dynamic, Phanteks PH-F120MP, Noctua NF-A12, Silent Wings 3, Thermaltake Riing Trio (best RGB, worst software), *any* stock fan, and lastly every Corsair fan I've ever owned including the ML120 pro
Arctic P12 blades are two wobbly to deliver a high static pressure. They fixed this with the P12 max.
I love these fan tests and hope you're able to continue them throughout the new year.
I would absolutely buy these or T30s for CPU cooling if mine was pulling more power, but that seems like the only use. When I setup my 5000D I bought a 5 pack of Arctic P12 fans for $30 and they're still working great. I just don't see the value behind the higher end fans outside of direct CPU/GPU cooling unless perhaps you were restricted by SFF and only had 1 fan mount.
I imagine the higher end fans will last longer. Peace of mind and quality control are valuable. Like, the new p12 max from arctics would be amazing they didn't have horrendous quality control making their predecessor a better option. Plus, noctua supports decade old coolers with free mounting brackets, the postage would cost more than the bracket itself. That kind of customer service demands a higher price. Don't know about bequiet's support, but I'm sure it's better than Arctics. I like saving money, but I'm willing to pay a premium for a company that supports its users.
Ball bearing fans last the longest. The downside is even on the good models hub noise is still somewhat a lottery, and even on a good sample from a good brand there could still be some hub noise, they aren't absolutely silent. But they last like twice as long as other bearing technologies. Still, it's debatable how valuable that is, since they can develop noise long before actually failing like other types of bearings, even if they take a lot longer to fail. In my own almost 20 years of using PC fans I've only had a few sleeve bearing fans actually fail outright, and I could have maybe fixed those with disassembly. A lot of the top performers are ball bearing though (since they're based on server fans originally), so I among that group I tend to look at what's priced the best. GTs at $20 when you can get them are still amazing, but I've seen the Cm SF-120M and Wonder Snail as low as $11, and at that price I would take them easily over a P12.
Glad i bought them at release, got 6 of them in my 4000D airflow, creepily quiet
I have the be quiet light wings high speed on my rads and they are amazing. Be quiet makes great stuff.
If only be quiet! saw this. It doesn't seem to have amny views yet has pribably the best business ideas for them. I hope they listen. They're my favourite company.
11:53 lmao in canada the triple pack costs more than buying 3 individual fans
would love to see a 200mm fan round up.
I am curious how the Arctic F12 works perform as well. Great video!
My guess is that once the 011 EVO XL finally hits the market, 140mm fans will see a huge surge in usage and reviews. I'm just imagining a blacked out 011 EVO with three 420mm rads with 10 Silent Wing Pro 4 fans...I can't wait.
Using 10 Phanteks T30, fantastic fans, but the Silent Wings Pro 4 does a fantastic job being standard thickness. If it was today, I wouldn't hesitate in opting for them.
You spend more money on fans than many on their processor lol
What are you even running in your case to require 10 t30s? An A100?
@@ahsookee i have 10 fans (6 intake 4 exhaust) in my O11 Dynamic XL so it’s definitely doable :D though i opted for the much cheaper Arctic P12 ARGB PST PWM
@@ahsookee
I have 10 fans too, but they are older enermax uctb12p
I have 2x 480 radiators and 1x 240
Plus 3 be quiet 140mm case fans
Hi, I noticed something weird since I got my hands on these fans, I got 3 of them for my AIO. I set them to UHS mode, which should give me a 3000rpm highest speed, but all my software are reading each and every one of them at 2750-2800rpm max speed. I have a Noctua-Bequiet combo, so I am sure it is not my fan headers problem, since I tested each one of them though multiple fan headers on motherboard, and the noctua's speed could be readed out correctly. Can you do a quick test to see if yours are capped at somewhere below the rated 3000rpm?
YES! I wanted a review of this fan! I just bought a 140, it’s flipping crazy!
I'd love a 15mm BeQuiet to upgrade the performance from my A12x15 in my Darkflash mini-ITX case where there is only room for a pair of 15mm fans to mount on the case between the case, and a fanless C14S
Happy New Year Mike!
I am big fan of this video
Personally use all be quiet 140 fans for case airflow, and 3 t30 on my liquid freezer 360. PC is nearly inaudible even under full load. It's to a point where even just having my open back hd660s on makes it completely inaudible to me. That being said, all my fans curves are optimized for noise rather then temps, but my 3080 strix only gets to 75c, and my 5800x3d to 65c.
Been eyeing the 140s. Still debating with myself if I want to replace my Arctic P12s.
Hi buddy,
great coverage of case by you. 💐✌️
hope you are also planning a Best 120mm Slim fan review comparison for the sffpc community 😊
Thanks.
Would like to see slim version of the 120mm comparison test.
wow. crazy how something that sounds so simple a 120x25mm fan.. Can get so much better over the years.
5-pack p12 pwm is just 30USD here. A single pro 4 is 34USD. It might be good, but some cases can fit 9-10 120mm fans. 340USD is just crazy compared to 60USD. The T30 is 36USD.
The P12 is so hard to beat in that respect. It's why it was the best budget fan in the last roundup
gentle typhoon is like 20 years old, right? truly a timeless design
Great review, lots of data ❤
What equipment are used to do these tests ? They differ from my results using professional wind tunnel machinery
Amazing content on this channel! With that being said, I must say that these results vary WILDLY from my own experience. I am running 5x Silent Wings 140 Pro on radiators, and in the video during the "Restricted Aírflow @ 39dBA" it mentions that HC was able to run them at 2050RPM. At 2050RPM mine genereated 56db! I had to take them all the way down to 1100RPM to hit 39db, which means they generate more noise than the Arctic P14's I was running before at the same speeds.
Amazing how Gentle Typhoon still holds up, even compared to new designs and the copycats (Noctua and Toughfan).
I'll buy these if Noctua doesn't finally release their nextgen 140mm fans soon.
What about the 140mm perf? I only heard about the 120mm perf in the video.
the bequiet fans might be nice and all but they are way to expensive ... compared to arctic p12
I hope they include a 92mm version of the Be Quiet Pro for Small ITX builds
Love your videos bro!
I think be quiet! fans are really high quality, I usually end up buying Arctic fans because they are so amazing for the price.
Molded header was a terrible idea. So many builds I've had to flatten the cable to 90° right off the connector. Going to cause a lot of combatility issues for a lot of people.
Especially at the top of the motherboard if it near the top case/rad mounted fans.
Hey can you please publish the charts for restricted testing for future fan reviews? it's more important than unrestricted IMHO.
Will you do a 140mm fans comparison? :)
I am planning an almost entirely Be Quiet! build, not AIO. Are the fans daisy chained, is there a hub? I don’t care about RGB. What’s the best Canadian supplier(s)?
But do they come in brown and beige!?