Total War Warhammer - Norsca Lore, Legendary Lords, Army, Units, and Tactics

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  • Norsca is a faction in Warhammer fantasy that is very likely to be the next DLC race pack for Total War Warhammer and the early adopter bonus for Total War Warhammer 2. This video will cover the lore, army compositions, units, and tactics of Norsca, as well as Norscan Legendary Lord choices and how they might be implemented in Total War Warhammer in terms of gameplay and campaign mechanics.
    Indypride from milkandcookiesTW also covers possible legendary lord choices, and possible gameplay mechanics like Seafang the Norscan Ghost Ship, Wulfrik the Wanderer, Egrimm van Horstmann, Throgg the Troll King, and new units like Skin Wolves, Chaos War Mammoths, Fimir, and more. Norsca will likely soon be playable in Total War Warhammer and Total War Warhammer 2!
    Thank you very much to Loremaster of Sotek for joining me on this video, subscribe to his channel here - / @loremasterofsotek
    Sources - Monstrous Arcanum
    Warriors of Chaos 8th Edition Armybook
    Warhammer Wiki
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  • @milkandcookiesTW
    @milkandcookiesTW  7 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    Huge thanks to Loremaster of Sotek for joining me, as he is always a very well informed and incredibly useful collaborator on these kind of videos. Check out his channel here - th-cam.com/channels/H4nPsl2ctS365aEfFBwxbg.html

    • @richardround2071
      @richardround2071 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      milkandcookiesTW are you able to say when the embargo on the battle at the fallen gates is lifted? And if so, can you tell us.

    • @milkandcookiesTW
      @milkandcookiesTW  7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I mean, the second our videos start going up, you'll know the embargo is lifted lol. I dont know if I can be specific, other than to say soon

    • @richardround2071
      @richardround2071 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      milkandcookiesTW don't worry about it, sounds like you can't. I'll try and be patient.

    • @MeanMachineCov
      @MeanMachineCov 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Good video, Many thanks to Sotek and Indy for this Video :)

    • @Bearyboo87
      @Bearyboo87 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great Video guys, really interesting stuff. Btw have you seen Mazdamundi's skill tree? perhaps some angry spear shaking is in order.

  • @JoseSantos-xn4lp
    @JoseSantos-xn4lp 7 ปีที่แล้ว +122

    I'm a simple man. I see a lore video like this (specially about Norsca) and I immedeatly click like. Glad to see Sotek returning to this channel. You 2 work well together.

    • @Lopata991
      @Lopata991 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      you are so simple you don't even make your own joke, you steal them. Very simple. Good day

    • @JoseSantos-xn4lp
      @JoseSantos-xn4lp 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      And you are the simplest of us all to get this triggered for such an harmless and "simple" joke. As far as I know there aren't any copyrights to YT jokes. You should probably get something better to do with your life, kiddo.

    • @JoseSantos-xn4lp
      @JoseSantos-xn4lp 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Maybe "memez" would be more to your liking? You are trying to be edgy but keep cutting yourself in your own edge. Just stop it, it's not doing you any good. Crawl back to your "memez" and let the rest enjoy their long awaited lore video.

    • @Lopata991
      @Lopata991 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      make me food and color my fence...Jose

    • @JoseSantos-xn4lp
      @JoseSantos-xn4lp 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think now would be a great oppurtunity for you to make a strategical retreat back to /pol/. You clearly aren't proving anything other than how bad you are at being edgy. And you aren't bothering you are entertaining me. Also how cringy do you have to be to keep saying "memez"?

  • @theholyavenger
    @theholyavenger 7 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    Grimdark Vikings? Sign me up!

  • @gbogdan3528
    @gbogdan3528 7 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    If they add werewolves it would be awesome!

    • @milkandcookiesTW
      @milkandcookiesTW  7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Agreed!

    • @Dragantis1991
      @Dragantis1991 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Only think that I'm afraid is that because of pegi they may not add skin wolf because they are kind gore, yet they are super cool so I would love to have tham in norscan roster.

    • @GrievousKhan
      @GrievousKhan 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Bogdan Gaidur Turns out they did!

  • @bradr1519
    @bradr1519 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good job on the quick release on this one!

  • @milkandcookiesTW
    @milkandcookiesTW  7 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    Legendary Lords - 7:03
    Unit Roster - 23:35
    Fimir - 29:52
    Monsters - 32:56

    • @kurogurochan7957
      @kurogurochan7957 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      milkandcookiesTW was waiting for this

    • @milkandcookiesTW
      @milkandcookiesTW  7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Hope you enjoyed :)

    • @God666Seed
      @God666Seed 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      milkandcookiesTW as you're an insider, will they showcase that much that staying up until 2:30 am to see the press conference is worth it?

    • @Wildboy789789
      @Wildboy789789 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      milkandcookiesTW mmm I want fimir

    • @omnisapient
      @omnisapient 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      milkandcookiesTW щуку

  • @Daveyo89
    @Daveyo89 7 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    report Wulfrik for flaming

    • @milkandcookiesTW
      @milkandcookiesTW  7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      FUCKING REPORTED

    • @unnamedenemy9
      @unnamedenemy9 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Oh really now? Face me if you dare, stunted whelp, or do you lack even a redditor's courage? I thought the Anons of TH-cam were great keyboard warriors, but perhaps you are no true Anon. Indeed, maybe you are instead some breed of neckbearded troll, though in truth, I have seen a finer beard on a 4channer's back-side!

    • @elistarr8270
      @elistarr8270 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      unnamedenemy9 that was beutifull

  • @ashwingautam3701
    @ashwingautam3701 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You and sotek make an amazing team together. I enjoy the heck out of these videos.

    • @milkandcookiesTW
      @milkandcookiesTW  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you very much glad you enjoy them :)

  • @OBSweats
    @OBSweats 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loving the collaborations on your channel Indie, keep it up!

  • @kaak888
    @kaak888 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Hope that 1 of the legendary lords/lord has a quest that goes up againts the chaos overlords

  • @Celadil
    @Celadil 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you're lore videos are always on point thanks!

  • @iggyboom2
    @iggyboom2 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Liked the video during the commericial cause i already know it'll be quality. Love your stuff milkandcookiesTW

    • @milkandcookiesTW
      @milkandcookiesTW  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you very much really appreciate it :D

  • @wallhackergotdammit
    @wallhackergotdammit 7 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Fuck me I thought it was a DLC trailer at first glance

  • @jzl4646
    @jzl4646 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love these lore videos! No idea how you guys know so much, can't find this stuff anywhere on the internet haha

    • @milkandcookiesTW
      @milkandcookiesTW  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad to hear it! Monstrous arcanum and other supplement armybooks, as well as Warhammer wiki and the Warriors of Chaos armybook

  • @hanskelsen89
    @hanskelsen89 7 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Man, I really hope they're working in Dogs of War too. We need them

    • @Newt0rz
      @Newt0rz 7 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Víctor Lmg I can see them as a game 2 dlc pack. Since rogue armies are toying with the idea of having units from multiple races.

    • @trippfields279
      @trippfields279 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Víctor Lmg
      >Picks Skaven
      >Fields Brazangas Besiegers and Leopold's Leopards
      >initiate trollface

    • @ARescueToaster
      @ARescueToaster 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm curious how a Dogs of War faction would work. They aren't really a faction, and I don't think they own or fight for land. So they would basically be a mercenary system for all of the factions?

    • @hanskelsen89
      @hanskelsen89 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes

  • @1486345
    @1486345 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've waited so long for a purely Norsca lore video from someone. Now, not only has my wish come true, the Norse are also going to be playable!!!

  • @darkice5470
    @darkice5470 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I do love the cheeky dota 2 references that you do every now and then.

  • @evanwilson8569
    @evanwilson8569 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video as always

  • @Powerofriend
    @Powerofriend 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well done guys! this is why I subscribed :]

  • @ronnie5340
    @ronnie5340 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video was amazing i loved every bit of it and i needneedneed to see skinwolves

  •  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm waiting for these Mammoths so hard, hope to see them!

  • @Felcaster
    @Felcaster 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    MilkandcookiesTW, I love your lore videos! Keep making them.
    In my best Elcor impersonation- "Friendly jab: how do you not know how to pronounce Jarl (yärl)? I thought Skyrim beat that term into our collective gamer conscious."
    Hope you do some DoW3 Annihilation videos soon too!

    • @milkandcookiesTW
      @milkandcookiesTW  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have never played an Elder Scrolls game ;P Thank you very much, will do

  • @galatygr9809
    @galatygr9809 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    You two are my favorite two warhammer youtubers

  • @bjornliljedahl2857
    @bjornliljedahl2857 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video :)

  • @TheBarser
    @TheBarser 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for this video mate :)

  • @alexweirdyoung
    @alexweirdyoung 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "Face me if you
    dare, stunted whelp, or do you lack even an Elven maid's courage? I
    thought the Sons of Grungni were great warriors, but perhaps you are no
    true Dwarf. Indeed, maybe you are instead some breed of bearded goblin,
    though in truth, I have seen a finer beard on a Troll's back-side."
    -Wulfrik the Wanderer to Dwarf King Thurbad Stonebeard, in perfect Khazalid
    Worst insult ever!!

  • @angrydude675
    @angrydude675 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    love it thanks for the class oh great and wise teacher

  • @nossstrils1499
    @nossstrils1499 7 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    It would be great if they add Surtha Ek as a legendary lord with a buff to chariots.

    • @Newt0rz
      @Newt0rz 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Nosstril Slaya Knowing CA they'll probably keep him in as an Easter egg. Maybe a rouge army with chariots from every race? 😂

    • @nossstrils1499
      @nossstrils1499 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Sounds good to me. The rogue army of pain and suffering. But they would probs keep him in charge of the Varg while you play as another Norscan Tribe.

    • @kellyweldon9054
      @kellyweldon9054 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Nosstril Slaya haha, as if I couldn't hate that bastard more! Nothing like surviving an epic battle with Chaos just to have that prick pop up out of nowhere and annihilate my survivors.

    • @nossstrils1499
      @nossstrils1499 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Gives you more reason to invade them

    • @Grounders10
      @Grounders10 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I already have issues with chariots. THE SKAELING BUILDING NOTHING BUT CHARIOTS! HOW THE FUCK DO YOU BURN DOWN A CITY WITH CHARIOTS! TELL ME! HOW! Their auto-resolve if fucking broken and the AI knows it.

  • @cogglestechmec4845
    @cogglestechmec4845 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Due to us going to the new world and I have read the 8th army books do you think we might get The amazons as a sub race to play I read somewhat of lore. but I think it would give so more flavor to the new world. Now I'm a noob to Warhammer lore so I might be asking a dumb question but I just want to know your response to this.
    P.S love the vids big of total war keep up the good work

    • @Goraka91
      @Goraka91 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think the main restriction is each army needs to have had actual tabletop armies. Amazons had one unit in a mercenary book and GW control their franchises fanatically so CA coming up with a new army is out of the question.
      Was surprised by Chaos Dwarfs though.

  • @Menselot
    @Menselot 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    17:08 oh what a gentle soul !!!

  • @blazindragon1833
    @blazindragon1833 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    You never said anything about the Fimir units am I correct? Or are you saving that for another video?
    I really think you should do a video about all the scrapped and discontinued army's and races that people may not know about as I'd love to learn more about warhammer :)

  • @anjairis
    @anjairis 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    a long ass time ago when i was shorter i saw a picture of the miniature model of Egrimm van Horstmann on top a two headed dragon (woot a dragon with two heads?! i couldn't believe it) and he intrigued me a lot so i rly hope he will be in the game

  • @MidnightBlackandVictoria
    @MidnightBlackandVictoria 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    IN one of the recent interviews (Its on TH-cam, don't know which one but its on the TW channel) when asked about the upcoming DLC/Pre order bonus, he said "There is a particular character we have been looking for a way to work in since the beginning, and this gave us the perfect opportunity to do that", and seeing as how Engrim is in the trailer, that's whom I would bet on as a companion addition to compliment Wulfric. But who knows. But he was OBVIOUSLY at least an inspiration for that trailer, if that's not Engrim himself (I think it is...Looks just like old artwork of Van Horstman) which means he was considered in the beginning.
    There is another Chaos Sorcerer, who is cannon and would fit better with Norsca though...And that is Aekold Helbrass. Although formerly Empire, he lived among the Norscans, and was corrupted. Originally studying their culture, he ended up being tempted by Tzeentch, and was gifted with the "Breath of life", and could turn wasteland into meadows, and resurrect the dead....But he doesn't fit the trailer so....Engrim is my guess.
    It would be a perfect way to finalize the first game, seeing as how many speculated that the trailer showed Engrim. And while, yes it was a SCROLL that corrupted him, and not a book, this could just be a minor oversight.

    • @milkandcookiesTW
      @milkandcookiesTW  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think that quote was about the Old Friend, which I personally think is very likely Krell. "In the beginning" of the trilogy, Chaos wasnt even supposed to be playable, and Norsca certainly wasnt. I'd be surprised to see Egrimm this early honestly, I think his best shot is game 3 with a Tzeentch faction, but even that is a bit of a longshot. Vilitch the Curseling and Kairos Fateweaver seem more likely, but I guess it depends if CA combines god-aligned Daemons and Warriors together into same faction, or keeps Daemons and Warriors of Chaos completely separate.

  • @LLLouisss1
    @LLLouisss1 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can see Wulfrik The Wanderer getting a battle at the end of the campaign like the WE and BM where he fights Archeon to prove himself to the Chaos gods.Or maybe somthing similar to Bretonia when they get to choose a "Crusade" which in his case would be picking a LL such as Karl or Grimgor and once he defeats that LL you win.

  • @nicolasschmeis2778
    @nicolasschmeis2778 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Time for some wandering :D

  • @mycaleb8
    @mycaleb8 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    (Hears Loremaster of Sotek) INSTA LIKE!

  • @mauroferrari5518
    @mauroferrari5518 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well, for a caster Lord Vilitich the Curseling could also be a possibility.

  • @larocagreyjoy7637
    @larocagreyjoy7637 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the wanderer horde would need some ways to cover the map fast. Like challenging one specific lord, and appearing at the closest coast, then fail or win, he would have to target, or be targeted by another faction and repeat.

  • @heroofrome1533
    @heroofrome1533 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, Ind and Sotek!
    Although, having the two Norscan factions, it would be nice if CA went back to older editions and made one of them a "good" faction, with diplomatic bonuses with Empire states and the ability to resist Chaos corruption for example. While, Wuflrick would lead the Chaos aligned one.

    • @milkandcookiesTW
      @milkandcookiesTW  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! Yeah I think it depends on who the 2nd legendary lord is and how far back the character is taken from. If its another WoC character or a god aligned Norscan like Egil Styrbjorn, they wont be very nice or friendly with the Empire lol

    • @heroofrome1533
      @heroofrome1533 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Quite right. It's just because Skeggi are as far from Chaos as a stick is to a knife, so having some "good" aligned Norscans could be fun. They could also be spiced up if CA gets adventurous and creates the 'lore of Mannan (the God of the Sea)' instead of a more Chaos aligned thing for example.

  • @satchel5909
    @satchel5909 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hope it really is Norsca. Even if you wont play the race it will make the raid from the north much more interesting on the campain map. Like they say in the video

  • @Connor19527
    @Connor19527 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Indy every time I go to play multiplayer on warhammer I see you're game with the mods on... it's like so close to getting in a game vs you but so far haha

    • @milkandcookiesTW
      @milkandcookiesTW  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha Ill probably be setting up a Discord soon so people can play with me more easily

  • @stefanpickel6012
    @stefanpickel6012 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe they could also make it that Chaos can conquer ot absorb Norscan Tribes in some way to open up more ways to play them? While I wouldn't want them to get everything, it would be kind of cool if Chaos could recruit Marauders and very specific monsters (maybe specific to each settlement or province) there and have fallback settlements.

  • @chaosundivided7843
    @chaosundivided7843 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    that's good at least can't wait to play skaven

  • @Admjoh
    @Admjoh 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Will you be getting early access to warhammer 2 this time around? I would assume so due to your closeness with the creators. Either way, thanks for all the great content, always refreshing and informative!

    • @milkandcookiesTW
      @milkandcookiesTW  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes I should provided nothing falls through. You're very welcome!

  • @victorhoyseth180
    @victorhoyseth180 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can see wulfrik the wanderer as a really fun AI enemy, I can see it now. Karl Franz and his two armies moving to take out a beastmen horde, when blam Wulfrick teletports right in front with an army of Norse at his back and because of his insult ability he can single out the army he wants, Karl Franz, and suddenly your in a fight for your life.

  • @chubbyninja89
    @chubbyninja89 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would like to see two kinds of werewolves or skinwolves, a more common one that is somewhat like the Beastmen Gor Herds, wielding dual axes, and a much more monstrous version that is proper monstrous infantry that maybe just slashes its enemies with it's large claws.

  • @nikolasmurasaki8587
    @nikolasmurasaki8587 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Norsca! Sweet!

  • @miguellemir242
    @miguellemir242 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think they could also spice it up by adding some units that were left outside Warriors of Chaos (like or not, Norcans and Warriors of Chaos are bound together) : Hellstriders of Slaanesh, Chimerae and Chaos Warshrine are perfct candidates

  • @swagvaldthemagnificent6103
    @swagvaldthemagnificent6103 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yo indy do you think their is a chance of a Legendary Lord Mortkin? His background is amazing and i think it would be a waste if CA didnt include him. Even a mini campaign like the todbringer khazrak campaign would work imo where its his war with Ostland

  • @yoloman9411
    @yoloman9411 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    It would be cool if he had the ability to zip to any faction leader in an instant, maybe for a big cost of gold, but u have to be sure you can beat them because you cannot retreat unless you win the battle against the legendary lord

  • @blazindragon1833
    @blazindragon1833 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    So you think Norsca and Sarl are going to be added to the Old World map alongside Skaeling and Varg?? or do you think they will just replace them?
    Also I really think the Tribe Awakening game mechanic that the WoC currently have will be given to Norsca as it would make more sense and that the WoC will have all brand new mechanics that suit them better :)

  • @johlin94
    @johlin94 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    My god I hope you are right! The Norse tribes would be soooooo cool! Also preordered the 2nd game so super freaking excited!

  • @Menselot
    @Menselot 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What better than seeing a werewolf tranforming ripping his previus form and seeing their flesh and guts all around them
    I can not wait to see them !!!!!!

    • @Menselot
      @Menselot 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ah also those bio trolls i just cry right now i want to see them in game
      (i feel bad for them because after eating those champions of nurgle they now face eternal suffering because they was hungry ...... i like it ) !

  • @archyneverpicked
    @archyneverpicked 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sweet shit cuz. Norsca is bloody awesome

  • @mighty8357
    @mighty8357 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would like to see the option being implemented of the chaos warriors confederating with all the norscan tribes. I mean it is possible for basically any other faction and considering that the chaos armies use the same troops I don't see why it shouldn't be possible

  • @C_hoffmanni
    @C_hoffmanni 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sometime in the trilogy I want to see Throgg so bad, please.
    Also the kidder MiXxu who has fleshed out many minor factions/subfactions made a legit good Norsca overhaul, of course it niffscopes the existing assets but it's surprisingly good. I also want to see Krakens act like naval bombardment in FOTS

  • @TheShadow079
    @TheShadow079 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    fully fleshed out skin wolves? sign me in.

  • @robinandersson862
    @robinandersson862 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was that creature to the right in their last slide a Skin Wolf? Because that thing looked DOPE

  • @taurentino
    @taurentino 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSS! I exclusively play Chaos in quick match. Its rough. Lets hope they flesh the roster out better with some more cost effective units.

  • @andrewschall8671
    @andrewschall8671 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im guessing we'll see lords of pre-existing tribes so from what I know these are the lords/famous persons from the norscan tribes in-game that are around at this point:
    Sarls: Wulfrik the Wanderer
    Graelings: Scylla Anfingrimm or Haargroth the Blooded
    Skaelings: Egil Styrbjorn
    Baersonlings: Beorg Bearstruck (were-bear) or Aeson the Fallen (mutalith vortex beast)
    Aeslings: Unknown
    Varg: Surtha Ek
    Bjornlings: Unknown
    Troll Country: Throgg, King of Trolls
    I'd like to see Harry Hammerstorm (the Hammer). Harry Hammerstorm was the character on the cover of the first edition of Warhammer fantasy battles.
    Other Norse include:
    Lord Mortkin (hates Ostland and the von Raukovs for burning Norscan villages in retaliatory raids.)
    Valkia the Bloody (a Daemonic Valkyrie dedicated to Khorne. Probably from the Aesling or Varg tribes).
    Valnir the Reaper (likely from the Bjornlings as many tribes from the bjornlings are dedicated to Nurgle)
    If Egrimm van Horstmann was included he'd likely be part of the Crow or Raven Tribes as they are dedicated to Tzeentch but I'm unsure where they are located in Norsca.
    Ragnar Paingbringer (a lesser known chaos lord who burns part of the Wood Elves forest to the ground using you guessed it CHARIOTS (specifically the Gorebeast variant))
    honestly Chaos has many champions. In early editions many champions were from the Kurgan (like the norscans but from the steppes of the Chaos Wastes to the east. So like mongols and huns and goths and scythians etc) the other main component of the mortal followers of chaos were the Hung who originated from the steppes above Warhammer China (think mongols and xiongnu).
    Chaos has a lot of interesting characters, quite a few of them are dedicated to a particular god however. Though in TW:W1 we did see Sigvald the favorite of Slaanesh and Sarthoriel the Everwatcher a greater daemon of Tzeentch so who knows.

  • @Sensko
    @Sensko 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Seafang could work as a banner, giving vanguard to one unit, with ulfrik getting it from a skill..

  • @warhammerguy
    @warhammerguy 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would love to have Wulfrik the Wanderer as a Legendary lord :D
    When i first heard about him from Arch when he made lore videos and lord speculation before the game came out i hoped he would be one of the chaos legendary lords :)
    But considering Chaos kinda was a wet fart i would love to see him in a refreshing new minor faction ;)

  • @rowanchurch702
    @rowanchurch702 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The insult from Wulfric to the Dwarf King is actually one of the loading screen quotes.

    • @LouisKing995
      @LouisKing995 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Rowan Church Who wins in a fight, Wulfric or Grombrindol?

    • @rowanchurch702
      @rowanchurch702 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Trajan I would say that it depends on who triggers what abilities when, though this assumes that both have all of their abilities going into a match.

    • @LouisKing995
      @LouisKing995 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Rowan Church interesting, I don't really know much of the lore for either them so I honestly don't know. From what I've read though, Grombrindol seems to be the Dwarf equivalent to superman lol I mean he's got his own magazine and everything

    • @rowanchurch702
      @rowanchurch702 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Trajan Lore-wise, it is the sort of question of who would win in a fight, Thor or Zeus? An argument could be made for both. In game, I think it has a lot more to do with how canny the player is with their LL and in a straight fight (no abilities), I think it depends on who hits first.

  • @beastofbray1742
    @beastofbray1742 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    So is Wulfrik actively serving the Chaos gods or rebelling because of his curse? I know little about the tabletop. I just assumed eventually he'd have to challenge the gods themselves if he runs out of opponents.

  • @nadicaus1277
    @nadicaus1277 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As excited as I am for this I will miss Feldman ingerson coming behind and destroying settlements with full stacks of chariots and marauders :(

  • @liampainter2368
    @liampainter2368 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    milkandcookiesTW When you started talking about giving Wulfrik the Wanderer insane movement speed on the campaign map, I just started thinking about how fucked people will be trying to actually fight him if they're playing on Very Hard or Legendary Difficulty, when they try to intercept him and the A.I. does what it usually does, it will puss out should your army be at all intimidating and will try to draw you away from your only settlements. Then your enemies (essentially everyone aligned with Chaos, Order or Destruction depending on who you start out as) will fuck the rest of your settlements.

  • @juliusbob3312
    @juliusbob3312 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No mention of Beorg Bearstruck as a possible legendary lord?

  • @TomorrowWeLive
    @TomorrowWeLive 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think maybe Norman's will have their settlements in Norsca, but not be able to settle anywhere else.

  • @blaf55
    @blaf55 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fimir deserve own video :D

  • @Arhatu
    @Arhatu 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think ability to duel the lord of the enemy army before battle starts would be a good mechanic and after seeing the dragon vs dinasour animations in e3 trailer I hope those animations would be matched ones.I wouldn't enjoy it after the battle starts.

  • @kylevidauri4869
    @kylevidauri4869 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    In my humble opinion, I figure the Fimir wont appear because they were from a much darker and edgier time in WHFB and were retconned for various reasons, not least because they probably stepped on the Dragon Ogres toes. I can see the Norscans sharing alot of Chaos monsters (Giants, Feral Manticore, ect) What I feel they should do and might do is round out their base first. Some Marauders with spears or something. Next, foot skirmishers. I'd love some Marauder Axe Throwers and Javlienmen, because they'd synergize so well with the rushy builds Norsca will favor. Better yet, they can be akin to Arrer Boyz in that they can kinda hold their own in melee against other low teir infantry.
    Moving up in tiers, I would expect some higher up infantry. Perhaps some well armored Hurscarls or even Norscan Berzerkers, something mid tier and capable of holding the line. With that though they need to give them some proper melee cav. I like the idea of mounted Hurscarls, or a variation of the current Norscan Horsemasters that is more melee focused. Something quick, middling, perhaps capable of handling Empire Knights in a pinch through raw charge damage to compensate for being more lightly armored.
    Next, the proper monsters. Were-beasts is totally a must, its really neat and fits the asthetic perfectly. Skinwolves are by far my favorite and I hope to Khorne we get us some man eating puppies. However, logically, Skinwolves should have to share territory with Chaos Spawn and Chaos Trolls. I think that theres no reason Norsca wouldnt have these, as they are a Chaos faction/subfaction staple and would pad out the monsters so to speak. Chaos Spawn are great because they wont break and murder low to mid teir infantry, Trolls are just brutal linebreakers and their regen+armor piercing just makes them so good even with shit morale. But where does that leave Skinwolves? I think they will be glass cannon, much like Vargheists. Think about it, fast as cav, terror causing, maybe armor piercing (Giant fuck off claws) but they would be unarmored, and though they'd have strong regen and frenzy, I can see them dropping much faster than Trolls or Spawn in a frontline engagment. Skinwolves should be backline marauders, eating skirmishers and tieing up cavalry.
    Meanwhile I doubt we will see Ettin, but with the new focus on dragons, I think we could see the Ice Drake, but chances are we'll just get a Feral Chaos Dragon. If we get both, that'd be neato, but if we do I almost want to see the Ice Drake as a flightless dragon-esque thing. It would be cool to see something akin to a giant chaos infused monitor lizard stalking the field, eating knights and freezing infantry to death. I can see the War Mammoth falling into the same vein as the Arachnarok, but maybe more verstile with better ranged support to compensate for less armor and speed. War Mammoth will probably synergize well with a Giant, and should probably trample one on the charge.
    Thems my two cents, but I think largely Norsca will keep alot of its shared Chaos units and we wont see much other than a few choice addons to give them a unique spice.

  • @mcmarkmarkson7115
    @mcmarkmarkson7115 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    The unique gameplay could be Wulfric moving with his special ship.

  • @alwombat7
    @alwombat7 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think you forgot about Harald Hammerstorm aka Henry the Hammer as a possible lord character.

  • @SpikyDane
    @SpikyDane 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh God i hope they expand on norsca, maybe it'll be the freeLC race?

  • @GonadTheNomad1
    @GonadTheNomad1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When you're talking about Egil you had a picture of Lord Mortkin on the right.
    Who's a better choice than both Egil and Wulfric =p

  • @MurphaLurph13
    @MurphaLurph13 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does the gift of tongues only apply to insults and not speech in general? Because, if so, that's seriously amazing!

    • @milkandcookiesTW
      @milkandcookiesTW  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Speech in general. He can communicate with anyone in any language, he just happens to most often use it for insults before he kills people ;P

  • @TheMrYadrian
    @TheMrYadrian 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    CA confirmed that there are two new monsters coming in the pre-adopter bonus with that faction, so any idea what kind of monsters could be? It was said "new" so I quess no "Spawns" allowed.

    • @milkandcookiesTW
      @milkandcookiesTW  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      They just said plural "monsters", so could be lots more than two. But as we covered in the video, Skin Wolves, Fimir, Chaos War Mammoths, Troll variants, ice dragon variants, and some other things from the Monstrous Arcanum all could be on the table

  • @praetor167
    @praetor167 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Vilitch the curseling could be a caster for the norsican army

  • @Orcbanger
    @Orcbanger 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would have liked to hear some speculation how the Norscans will transfer to WH2. Obviously, there will be no mammoths in Lustria.

  • @arigoshi9770
    @arigoshi9770 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    you forgot about bjornling, i wanted to know the story behind them appearing in the south rather than the north. nonetheless a really informative video!

    • @milkandcookiesTW
      @milkandcookiesTW  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      There's no real story to them appearing in the south, CA just realized that there needed to be a threat to the Badlands and Estalia/Tilea so they introduced a bunch of stacks spawning there during the Chaos invasion. Glad you enjoyed!

  • @unnamedshadow1866
    @unnamedshadow1866 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Galrauch is technically a wizard too. He has the Lore of Fire and the Lore of Tzeentch. But the Lore of Tzeentch is no in-game yet.

  • @LegatusMarcus
    @LegatusMarcus 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did i miss smthn? Did CA heavily allude to norscans as the next race pack? And where, if it's so?

    • @Newt0rz
      @Newt0rz 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Duke_Baragus They've said it's a reworked game 1 race, and they've also said the race has multiple monsters and isn't Kislev. This eliminates TEB and Middenland as they have no monsters, and unless we're expecting more vampire stuff (Vampire Coast/a unique roster for Mousilion) I don't see any other possibility.

    • @LegatusMarcus
      @LegatusMarcus 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh, monsters. I just hoped that this will be Dogs of War, but Norsca actualy cool too.

  • @KingFluffs
    @KingFluffs 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    River trolls look nice.

  • @beatthegreat7020
    @beatthegreat7020 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    They should come out with a DLC based around Karak Eight Peaks where the Greenskins, Skaven and Dwarfs fight in a mini campaign.

    • @milkandcookiesTW
      @milkandcookiesTW  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      How would that work in Total War though? Karak Eight Peaks is only one settlement. And they've kind of cut themselves off from doing that already because of the King and the Warlord, they wont do DLC for an already released DLC

    • @beatthegreat7020
      @beatthegreat7020 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      milkandcookiesTW, they could make several outpost around the outside for the orks to attack and then make the fortress itself several levels and put the Skaven on the bottommost one.

    • @beatthegreat7020
      @beatthegreat7020 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      BTW, when I say 'levels' I mean the floors that make up a Karak.

  • @LemmyManzo
    @LemmyManzo 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And Vardek Crom?? He is a beast

    • @milkandcookiesTW
      @milkandcookiesTW  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He is indeed! He also doesnt really offer much that Archaon doesnt. Even looks incredibly similar

  • @Menselot
    @Menselot 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what can be better than a giant wr mammoth stumping above a dragon
    nothing

  • @stewartorr8149
    @stewartorr8149 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I REALLY HOPE WE GET THROGG HES FUCKING AWESOME

  • @minze202
    @minze202 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    So how strong is the wanderer compared to the other legendary lords according to the lore? He's some lord choice for a minor faction so my first impression was that he wouldn't be that impressive. But your introduction paints a whole oher picture. So how strong is he compared to the other mighty legendary lords in warhammer total war?

    • @milkandcookiesTW
      @milkandcookiesTW  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      His entire premise is that he can duel and beat many of the worlds greatest champions. He is killed by Valten in the lore, but hes definitely a badass. And hes a Warriors of Chaos lord choice in 8th edition. So hes pretty terrifying. Dont think he could beat Durthu or Kholek in TW, but certainly could beat some of the other lords

  • @blazindragon1833
    @blazindragon1833 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about Aranessa Saltspite?? I think she could fit in the Norsca army and they did say in an interview that they want to try to implement more female characters. Also I think her in game model would just be so badass to see :p

  • @Intertriarriiae
    @Intertriarriiae 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would really like to see Vardek Crom (or Crom the Conquerer) but I think he is unlikely

  • @astrith
    @astrith 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Heh Fimir as a race were present in the fist edition of the Warhammer Fantasy, but I guess were a bit forgotten later on. Or maybe the got extinct? ;)

    • @milkandcookiesTW
      @milkandcookiesTW  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think they were essentially squatted in 4th edition and then came back as a supplement in 8th

  • @robinandersson862
    @robinandersson862 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    +milkandcookiesTW Does the Chaos War Mammoth rival the size of the mighty Kholek?

    • @ivomolenaar1599
      @ivomolenaar1599 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Robin Andersson it is far bigger

    • @milkandcookiesTW
      @milkandcookiesTW  7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yep Mammoth is way bigger than Kholek ;)

  • @liamspencer24
    @liamspencer24 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fimir are based on the Fomorians from Celtic myth. They come from underground and water.

  • @njburk
    @njburk 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    i was hoping for tomb kings

  • @trippfields279
    @trippfields279 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want Khalac Swordsson. Not gonna happen, but he is a very underrated Champion.

  • @johncmousley
    @johncmousley 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    cold + wandering; kind of applies to Ogre Kingdoms as well?

    • @milkandcookiesTW
      @milkandcookiesTW  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      They said they're reworking an already existing faction on the current campaign map. Its Norsca lol

    • @johncmousley
      @johncmousley 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      why can't you let me have my dreams ;)

  • @sangelititan1171
    @sangelititan1171 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    THROGG THROGG THROGG!!

  • @magecraft2
    @magecraft2 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Personally I would like a faction in Norscans that resist Chaos and fight against them, From long ago I remember this was a part of the Norscans until that was changed to them being just chaos followers. One thing that always confused me is Chariots for Norscans ????? they are a sea people from rocky ground, the Norse had limited use of horse. Now I know there are chaos people who do use chariots as they come from plain's.

  • @KorosuKoell
    @KorosuKoell 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How does the size of the war-mammut relate to, let's say, an Arachnarok spider?

    • @LyricalDJ
      @LyricalDJ 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Let's speculate for a minute. War mammoths can carry a lot of Norscan warriors. An entire unit, according to Loremaster of Sotek (later he says 50 to 60). Let's just say that I don't think an Arachnarok can carry even half that many _goblins_ let alone Norscans.

    • @indypride50
      @indypride50 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Way, way bigger ;P

    • @richardround2071
      @richardround2071 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      KorosuKoell uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20121202/thumbnail/a6ahubus.jpg
      Mammoth, giant squig, arachnorok spider

    • @KorosuKoell
      @KorosuKoell 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      hui that will be interesting to see ingame. thx for the picture

  • @elite6657
    @elite6657 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Idk about you guys but I have seen this quote in game while loading