Subscribed to your channel not too long ago. Enjoy your videos. I'm retired Air Force, so I know what it's like to be on the move. Hopefully you'll be home soon to enjoy your family and your trains. Thanks for your sacrifice!
Thank you for your military service... stay safe. Those things are monsters. At K-10 Hobby Shop in Maryville, IL the owner bought one to use. Even with a minimum mainline radius of 37 inches on a 60 ft x 70 ft layout, it proved an ordeal to operate it, and so now he has it for sale. There are several youtube videos of one with a load that stretches the car to about 400 ft long, which would make for six inches of overhang on the inside of a 30 inch curve. Excellent video, I'm glad I watched.
I've seen that car sitting at the Desert-Knight Yard in Oakland with a similar looking load. It is impressive and what is even more impressive is in addition to the UP crew, a trainman, an technician, and 2 armed Homeland Security agents accompanied the load to it's destination.
I definately enjoyed the video.I stumbled upon it as most of us do..I can't believe its over a year since you posted it..I hope all is wel with you and your family...I love the crossing at the end .Ive probably got 300= Tractor Trailers on my layout now I havent done any videos except for 3 at the beginning of my layout..Its grown alot since then..If you are ever in N.J, please let me know.Im real close to the Meadowlands..And I'm sure your baby is getting quite big,Again great job catch up soon
@APOTwixx I will put a little note on the video where you can see them and point them out to you. Re watch the video in about 2-3 minutes. The load is low but no track clearance issues as long as you screw in the load from the bottom like your supposed to. The runby didn't have the load screwed in.
Great job! On real high/wide train moves we will not pass other trains in curves, especially when you have loads that extend out like this one does. Good luck on your deployment! We appreciate your videos but your service to this country even more!
I am happy now! The sidekick came back. That's a very cool car, unfortunately I can't afford it and my old layout's been torn down, and a new one probably won't even be started for several months, so even if I could get it, I'd have nowhere to run it.
My brother worked at Westinghouse in East Pittsburgh and they made generators for power plants there, those cars were used to transport those generators and they had mechanisms to offset the load when it had to move around a curve and out away from the building, the name Schnabel is pronounced "Schnawbel" Westinghouse had their's painted in periwinkle blue. For the most part, the cars were custom made for the companies that used them such as ABB to transport transformers and Westinghouse for horizontal shaft generators. Wikipedia excerpt, The word Schnabel is from German Tragschnabelwagen, meaning "carrying-beak-wagon", because of the usually tapered shape of the lifting arms, resembling a bird's beak. In World War II the German Wehrmacht used Schnabel cars for transporting the Karl-Gerät heavy-calibre (54 cm and 60 cm calibre) siege mortars. These were self-propelled with a continuous-track suspension chassis of substantial length to maneuver into a firing position over a short range, but depended on a pair of purpose-designed Schnabel cars for long-range transport by rail.[4] The same system was also used at the same time for the rail transport of the French FCM 2C super-heavy armored fighting vehicle. In the United States, the first Schnabel car, WECX 200, was built for Westinghouse Nuclear by manufacturer Greenville Steel Car in the 1960s.[1] Wikipedia
As a vet I appreciate your service and sharing these video's. I Am thinking about getting one of these even though my layout ends in early 80's. Just to cool not to have one to play with and put on display. How cool would this be being pulled by a Big Boy?
I was in electrical engineering on the South Texas Nuclear Project from 1976 to 79. I was over Turbine Generator buildings 1 and 2. Each unit had two 25,00 volt to 345,000 volt, 1300 megawatt transformer that were 1.1M pounds each. They rode less than six inches above the rails and were four feet wider than a box car. Two engines pulled a caboose, a flat car, a transformer, another flat car another caboose, another flat car, another transformer, another flat car, another caboose, two flat cars, each carrying three the high voltage bushing that were 25 foot long. There were six box cars with the radiators, fans, hardware, , , . They came from McGraw-Edison up on the east coast, along the east coast down into mid Florida then along the Gulf coast to a temporary rail siding about a mile from the project just south of Bay City Texas. The conductor said they never went over 20 MPH.
This is a MASSIVE rail car - have seen it in person. SIEMENS Westing House Has these. They bring these into the plant to rebuild and re ship back to customer. The rails literally crunch as it rolls. I have pictures of the real one along with the cabooses. Will try to get a short video of it up when i get a chance
Thanks for your service to this country and the people who live in it, it is greatly appreciated! One question thou, were those crop circles i saw in the hay(?) field?
@pillyjaines87 that happened often before I fixed the load with what I told you guys about in the video....now it never derails, it's been around and around my layout with no problems.
Hey cool model thanks for the insight my wife wants to know what are the prototypes used for? Will you weather this model or leave it pristine? Cheers. guy
Thanks again for the cool info. I'm still learning the best places to shop online for HO scale locos and rolling stock, any guidance is appreciated. Looks like young Hank is tickled to hang out with Pop, I'm sure he'll have some great memories as he grows up around the hobby.
@upturbine model train stuff has 13 in stock at 149.99 each I can't link web pages on here but google model train stuff and it should be first result then search schnabel in their search bar on the model train stuff website
@ethan cass The UP engines you asked about are models of their award-winning Genset switchers. They are notable for utilizing technology that significantly reduces greenhouse emissions. Atlas produces HO versions of the switcher variant.
Hello, I am starting to build an HO layout, mostly single track but one place has a tunnel with a slight curve, about 72". Unlike most tunnels, my tunnel features enclosed wall corridor for better sound insulation. This means the side-swipe hazard exists all over the tunnel walls. So before I plan the tunnel I have a few questions: 1) What is length and width of the Schnabel car, either in inches or, cm or mm, especially the truck-base? 2) How heavy is it, e.g. proportionally heavier than 40' boxcars (e.g. if it is 3x longer than 40' boxcar it would be 3x heavier) 3) If I would run this car, would the same problems with turning trucks that you mentioned arise on 36' radius curve (3/4 of prototypical European radius) that I would use on non-scenic part of the layout to turn trains 180*, the minimum radius to prevent buffer-lock on European trains where buffers provide restraint force during push-pull operations since I am using short Kadee #17 couplers? 4) And finally prototype-related question: I am from Europe, so mostly modeling European layout with some freelancing (mixing North-American and European models on the same layout) but with close to prototypical curves and coupler lengths. I want to model an extended oval layout, where ends of it would have 36" radius turn-around curve hidden behind a backdrop, and 2 long straight segments with an aisle in the middle: rural and urban, joined by already mentioned 36" radius semicircle. On the (almost) straight sections of oval sides I have a dual track with 2 inches spacing, which would have few degrees of curve of 64" and 66" respectively (minimum prototypical European mainline curvature). I occasionally may run 89' autorack on the inner track (with wide corner overhang) and Schnabel car on outer track (with deep inner overhang), are they likely to sideswipe on prototypical large radii?
As you said the only problem is the overhang in curves.As i did the first run with my car it took just 1 minute till another train on the clublayout crashed in the Schnabelcar.Everyone has to beware on this behaviour of this car.
@masterownerlml There was several things that changed. In my first video (that I removed) I didn't have the screws screwed in the bottom of the load. I also didn't have the tabs shaved down to allow the car to operate like it's supposed to. So I had to redo the video to let you guys know about those problems / you the car operating the way it is supposed to operate on curves. The last video didn't show the car swinging the load because the load wasn't secured correctly. Now we're good to go!
Nice how you like trains and you have a son named Henry who also likes trains. And your name is James? WOW! Henry must be very lucky to have a father like you and have a cool name like that fits anybody who likes trains. Hint hint.
If you don't mind me asking, what's do you do for a living? Seems like you've got a good bit of money tied up in model railroading, I'm currently building a layout myself.
@maryandrobby I say it's worth it if you can get it for $150 at model train stuff I also say if you're comfortable making the minor adjustments I made, then it's worth it
Subscribed to your channel not too long ago. Enjoy your videos. I'm retired Air Force, so I know what it's like to be on the move. Hopefully you'll be home soon to enjoy your family and your trains. Thanks for your sacrifice!
Thank you for your service to our country!!! Safe return!!
I too want to add my thanks for your service so we can be safe and enjoy the worlds greatest hobby. Be safe and we will look for more videos soon.
Thank you for your military service... stay safe. Those things are monsters. At K-10 Hobby Shop in Maryville, IL the owner bought one to use. Even with a minimum mainline radius of 37 inches on a 60 ft x 70 ft layout, it proved an ordeal to operate it, and so now he has it for sale. There are several youtube videos of one with a load that stretches the car to about 400 ft long, which would make for six inches of overhang on the inside of a 30 inch curve. Excellent video, I'm glad I watched.
I've seen that car sitting at the Desert-Knight Yard in Oakland with a similar looking load. It is impressive and what is even more impressive is in addition to the UP crew, a trainman, an technician, and 2 armed Homeland Security agents accompanied the load to it's destination.
I definately enjoyed the video.I stumbled upon it as most of us do..I can't believe its over a year since you posted it..I hope all is wel with you and your family...I love the crossing at the end .Ive probably got 300= Tractor Trailers on my layout now I havent done any videos except for 3 at the beginning of my layout..Its grown alot since then..If you are ever in N.J, please let me know.Im real close to the Meadowlands..And I'm sure your baby is getting quite big,Again great job catch up soon
AWESOME video here! I was surprised Bachmann made that... have a really safe trip!
Thank you for your service to our country,and take care of yourself and get home safe and sound ,we enjoy your videos, Take care.
Little Henry going to be a luck lad with a father like you!
Loved you layout!
Good luck over there and stay safe. Looking forward to your videos when you get home.
No joke about the major off tracking of the transformer. Great video man.
Question: far as grade crossing anyone had any problems?
Robert Chapman no
@APOTwixx I will put a little note on the video where you can see them and point them out to you. Re watch the video in about 2-3 minutes. The load is low but no track clearance issues as long as you screw in the load from the bottom like your supposed to. The runby didn't have the load screwed in.
I finally picked one up. Got it from Model Train Stuff. Glad you told me about that place. They sell them for a really good price. Thanks
Great job! On real high/wide train moves we will not pass other trains in curves, especially when you have loads that extend out like this one does. Good luck on your deployment! We appreciate your videos but your service to this country even more!
Please give me tips on how to make an awesome layout. I'm in HO scale too.
I am happy now! The sidekick came back. That's a very cool car, unfortunately I can't afford it and my old layout's been torn down, and a new one probably won't even be started for several months, so even if I could get it, I'd have nowhere to run it.
From this ole Army Vet thank you for your service
My brother worked at Westinghouse in East Pittsburgh and they made generators for power plants there, those cars were used to transport those generators and they had mechanisms to offset the load when it had to move around a curve and out away from the building, the name Schnabel is pronounced "Schnawbel" Westinghouse had their's painted in periwinkle blue. For the most part, the cars were custom made for the companies that used them such as ABB to transport transformers and Westinghouse for horizontal shaft generators. Wikipedia excerpt, The word Schnabel is from German Tragschnabelwagen, meaning "carrying-beak-wagon", because of the usually tapered shape of the lifting arms, resembling a bird's beak.
In World War II the German Wehrmacht used Schnabel cars for transporting the Karl-Gerät heavy-calibre (54 cm and 60 cm calibre) siege mortars. These were self-propelled with a continuous-track suspension chassis of substantial length to maneuver into a firing position over a short range, but depended on a pair of purpose-designed Schnabel cars for long-range transport by rail.[4] The same system was also used at the same time for the rail transport of the French FCM 2C super-heavy armored fighting vehicle.
In the United States, the first Schnabel car, WECX 200, was built for Westinghouse Nuclear by manufacturer Greenville Steel Car in the 1960s.[1] Wikipedia
Thats going to be one lucky henry having such a nice set up to play with
Thank you for the video review, and for your service to our country! we greatly appreciate you!
What are those roads made out of, and thank you for your service
That is a really neat looking piece of rolling stock! Be safe on your trip!
@APOTwixx It's showing at around 4:08 protruding under the red brace.
As a vet I appreciate your service and sharing these video's. I Am thinking about getting one of these even though my layout ends in early 80's. Just to cool not to have one to play with and put on display. How cool would this be being pulled by a Big Boy?
Beautiful family bro, stay safe and come back to them ASAP!
@arealdoozey it's a transformer for a power plant. The purpose is for the car to have something to move on the model
@HODiver alright the railfanning video is up on modelrrtesttrack as you requested!
cool crop circle
@HODiver sure, since you asked I'll put it up for you tomorrow on my other site.
I was in electrical engineering on the South Texas Nuclear Project from 1976 to 79. I was over Turbine Generator buildings 1 and 2. Each unit had two 25,00 volt to 345,000 volt, 1300 megawatt transformer that were 1.1M pounds each.
They rode less than six inches above the rails and were four feet wider than a box car.
Two engines pulled a caboose, a flat car, a transformer, another flat car another caboose, another flat car, another transformer, another flat car, another caboose, two flat cars, each carrying three the high voltage bushing that were 25 foot long.
There were six box cars with the radiators, fans, hardware, , , . They came from McGraw-Edison up on the east coast, along the east coast down into mid Florida then along the Gulf coast to a temporary rail siding about a mile from the project just south of Bay City Texas.
The conductor said they never went over 20 MPH.
This is a MASSIVE rail car - have seen it in person. SIEMENS Westing House Has these. They bring these into the plant to rebuild and re ship back to customer. The rails literally crunch as it rolls. I have pictures of the real one along with the cabooses. Will try to get a short video of it up when i get a chance
Hey man that an awesome review hey take care you and your son where did you order the car from
Thanks for your service to this country and the people who live in it, it is greatly appreciated! One question thou, were those crop circles i saw in the hay(?) field?
Do u think you could do a review on the 1228 Norfolk Western steam engine?
i was thinking of getting this... do you suggest it or do you think its not worth getting?
How do you keep the containers from falling off the flat car when the train starts to move?
i have a question about the grass, did you use a grassmat or hand lay it with the grass mix??
Very nice review, I may get one soon, but haven't decided. Thank you for all that you do and stay safe while you are overseas.
have anyone asked you to do a review between the bachmann schnable car and the concept system models schnable car? anyway take care and be safe
@pillyjaines87 that happened often before I fixed the load with what I told you guys about in the video....now it never derails, it's been around and around my layout with no problems.
Although I can not use this model, I was still interested to see it in action. Thanks! Be safe over there.
The Containers on the flatcars are counter-weights to keep the load from flipping over, when it goes around those curves.
Hey cool model thanks for the insight my wife wants to know what are the prototypes used for? Will you weather this model or leave it pristine? Cheers. guy
Do you know if any are still for sale ?
Aren't these cars made in Lawrence County in Pennsylvania? (I live there.)
Thanks again for the cool info. I'm still learning the best places to shop online for HO scale locos and rolling stock, any guidance is appreciated. Looks like young Hank is tickled to hang out with Pop, I'm sure he'll have some great memories as he grows up around the hobby.
Thanks for thye updates on products. Please be carefull and safe on your deployment.
How much is that car?
@GordonFreemanD40 no it's the first run of athearn sd70ace's with sound
I might buy a used one that I'm looking at.
@upturbine model train stuff has 13 in stock at 149.99 each I can't link web pages on here but google model train stuff and it should be first result then search schnabel in their search bar on the model train stuff website
@jlwii2000 That works too! Have a fun time, and thanks again for your service!
it is amazing where did you get it? plz respond
The two van's are rider cars like you said, but the flat cars would be for extra braking.
i ponder if there is an n scale one.
Please be safe while you are there hope to see new vids when you return.
why do you have crop circles in the corn field?
Are those the Atherean Amtrak 40th anniversary units on your second line?
Thanks for sharing this stuff with us! Good luck over there. Will see you when you get back. :)
@BNSF725 not really too bad each truck picks up and moves on its own
BUT LOVE THE SET UP KEEP UP THE GRREAT WORK
@ethan cass The UP engines you asked about are models of their award-winning Genset switchers. They are notable for utilizing technology that significantly reduces greenhouse emissions. Atlas produces HO versions of the switcher variant.
Be safe on your trip brother! Get home safe and soon....
I would love to get one in the red and black scheme. But I tried to and they sold out.
Good review, Sir. That is some overhang. I think it would only be suitable as a display piece for most layouts.
Be safe.
@arealdoozey Transformers reduce electrical voltages. A giant one like this most likely reduces 30kv or 40kv down to something usable.
@jlwii2000 Why did you buy it?
What are the dimensions of your layout?
what are the 2 UP engines not on the tracks behind the rolling stock?
Yard genset
Excellent training. Cheers!
Be safe !!! Be waiting for that next vid
Hello,
I am starting to build an HO layout, mostly single track but one place has a tunnel with a slight curve, about 72". Unlike most tunnels, my tunnel features enclosed wall corridor for better sound insulation. This means the side-swipe hazard exists all over the tunnel walls. So before I plan the tunnel I have a few questions:
1) What is length and width of the Schnabel car, either in inches or, cm or mm, especially the truck-base?
2) How heavy is it, e.g. proportionally heavier than 40' boxcars (e.g. if it is 3x longer than 40' boxcar it would be 3x heavier)
3) If I would run this car, would the same problems with turning trucks that you mentioned arise on 36' radius curve (3/4 of prototypical European radius) that I would use on non-scenic part of the layout to turn trains 180*, the minimum radius to prevent buffer-lock on European trains where buffers provide restraint force during push-pull operations since I am using short Kadee #17 couplers?
4) And finally prototype-related question: I am from Europe, so mostly modeling European layout with some freelancing (mixing North-American and European models on the same layout) but with close to prototypical curves and coupler lengths. I want to model an extended oval layout, where ends of it would have 36" radius turn-around curve hidden behind a backdrop, and 2 long straight segments with an aisle in the middle: rural and urban, joined by already mentioned 36" radius semicircle. On the (almost) straight sections of oval sides I have a dual track with 2 inches spacing, which would have few degrees of curve of 64" and 66" respectively (minimum prototypical European mainline curvature). I occasionally may run 89' autorack on the inner track (with wide corner overhang) and Schnabel car on outer track (with deep inner overhang), are they likely to sideswipe on prototypical large radii?
As you said the only problem is the overhang in curves.As i did the first run with my car it took just 1 minute till another train on the clublayout crashed in the Schnabelcar.Everyone has to beware on this behaviour of this car.
how is it when your locomotive pulls 3 schnabel transformer cars. dose it have a good pull on a 2% grade?
love your crop circle!
Cabeese?? rofl,,kool ,,starting up a N scale layout soon, be nice to get back into model RR and lots of scratchbuilding.
Hey I have a good idea why not get a ho scale tornado siren
Have seen one they usually roll along at about 10-15 mph
Thank you for your service. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
The little guy Henry is cute, and when he gets old enough he's going to have fun playing with your trains.
And he shares the name of a Thomas and Friends character. How cool!
@masterownerlml There was several things that changed. In my first video (that I removed) I didn't have the screws screwed in the bottom of the load. I also didn't have the tabs shaved down to allow the car to operate like it's supposed to. So I had to redo the video to let you guys know about those problems / you the car operating the way it is supposed to operate on curves. The last video didn't show the car swinging the load because the load wasn't secured correctly. Now we're good to go!
Thank you for your service. Great videos
Sweet car dude! God bless!
What is the minim radius
1 st
amercan not english
there really isnt one that is why we have flex track
kk
Stay safe and thank you !!
Saw one of these in Wyoming right outside of Cheyenne.
@1989CJL model train stuff google it i cant post the link here
@Christopher Martinez IIts probably for decoration.
Nice Vid! and Thank you for Your service!
Miss the videos
Nice how you like trains and you have a son named Henry who also likes trains. And your name is James? WOW! Henry must be very lucky to have a father like you and have a cool name like that fits anybody who likes trains. Hint hint.
I want to see a model power 0-4-0tattempt to pull this 8P
If you don't mind me asking, what's do you do for a living? Seems like you've got a good bit of money tied up in model railroading, I'm currently building a layout myself.
+Bubba026510 he in military
they do the same lineup for any HAZMAT load because of weight restrictions
@maryandrobby I say it's worth it if you can get it for $150 at model train stuff I also say if you're comfortable making the minor adjustments I made, then it's worth it
i like those crossing gates, i rather go with the NJ International's one, but im not a good at wiring
hey james be safe out there!
I'll say this and I only speak for my self. I liked this car so much that I now own two.
hand laid it... my first layout was grassmat though