Drugs & The Media: Relative vs. Absolute Risk

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  • "A new pill lowers your risk of X by 50%!" Well, they're not lying to you... but they are withholding important information. Learn the difference between relative and absolute risk.
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ความคิดเห็น • 36

  • @lizp5004
    @lizp5004 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Watching this after finding out about the RRR &ARR of covid vaccines 95-97% vs 0.7%!
    THANK YOU!

    • @utkf16
      @utkf16 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Doing the exact same too

    • @jksurveyer
      @jksurveyer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I loved this video very helpful, don't be deceived by the vaccines, here are some vaccine numbers from Lancet - July 1, 2021, Pfizer/BioNTech - Relative risk reduction: 95%. Absolute risk reduction: 0.84%. Moderna - Relative risk reduction: 94%. Absolute risk reduction: 1.2%. Johnson & Johnson - Relative risk reduction: 67%. Absolute risk reduction: 1.2%. AstraZeneca/Oxford - Relative risk reduction: 67%. Absolute risk reduction: 1.3%. Thanks for making this perfectly clear.

    • @DrReginaldFinleySr
      @DrReginaldFinleySr 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Negative. You don't understand what you think you understand.

    • @brolaw123
      @brolaw123 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@DrReginaldFinleySrExpound Doc.

    • @ruebenbaca6301
      @ruebenbaca6301 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      COVID-19 vaccine efficacy and effectiveness-the elephant
      (not) in the room
      Although the RRR considers only participants who could benefit from the vaccine, the absolute risk reduction (ARR), which is the difference between attack rates with and without a vaccine, considers the whole population. ARRs tend to be ignored because they give a much less impressive effect size than RRRs: 1·3% for the AstraZeneca-Oxford, 1·2% for the Moderna-NIH, 1·2% for the J&J, 0·93% for the Gamaleya, and 0·84% for the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccines.

  • @jonathanjarry
    @jonathanjarry 8 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    When talking about the yellow scale, I should have said "from 0 to 100", and not from "1 to 100". Minor mistake!

    • @DrReginaldFinleySr
      @DrReginaldFinleySr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep, a common error I discuss with my students. Sadly, people will try to apply such principles to prevention.

  • @seattlecathy
    @seattlecathy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Medical journals do this too, especially in the headlines.

  • @schermore8576
    @schermore8576 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love your presentation style😎 easy to understand.

  • @tajlee1
    @tajlee1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent information!

  • @jimbo5635
    @jimbo5635 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Well done. Subscribed. I hope you get a 1000 soon, you have quality content.

  • @mashaelalsaikhan7311
    @mashaelalsaikhan7311 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great work

  • @caseysinclair2915
    @caseysinclair2915 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great simple explanation 👏

  • @Andrew-yb2gs
    @Andrew-yb2gs 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is excellent, thanks for creating it. Will definitely share with students.

  • @mannasteve
    @mannasteve 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great job

  • @vinniecasqer840
    @vinniecasqer840 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good angle. But it leaves out what's behind the hysteria. Most network ad revenues come from pharma. Anchors are reading corporate lit and presenting it as journalism.

  • @srqpdq6697
    @srqpdq6697 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That's DOCTOR McLovin buddy.

  • @EmilyTienne
    @EmilyTienne ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ah, the evil media. But you’re almost giving a pass to the drug makers who truly know all about ARR vs RRR, but choose to report only RRR.

  • @skykingimagery899
    @skykingimagery899 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It is so hard to get people to understand this basic principle. Use relative risk to sell you ... anything. On a product, in medicine and in science. What is the n value? Just show the y-axis that is the other trick. Compress the y-axis to make the comparison look huge.

  • @peteypablo1196
    @peteypablo1196 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good video.

  • @meshalal-harbi1451
    @meshalal-harbi1451 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you.

  • @brolaw123
    @brolaw123 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In what circumstances would Relative Risk be more appropriate than Absolute Risk?

  • @somcana
    @somcana 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The smoke did it for me. haha

  • @wendyg7561
    @wendyg7561 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Finally get it! Thanks :)

  • @Jdonovanford
    @Jdonovanford 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What you don't say is that the absolute risk is a very misguided number too because what is the standard population? What is the sample? Healthy individuals mixed with unhealthy ones, so if you sample from people at risk (I may be one and I don't know), then the absolute risk approaches more the relative risk. It's different if you have underlying conditions than if you don't. The absolute risk to develop COVID is significantly different from a young healthy individual than from an obese old one. So you have to consider what is the absolute risk for your profile.

    • @jensardam3429
      @jensardam3429 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's a very critical point too! Yes.

    • @DrReginaldFinleySr
      @DrReginaldFinleySr 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are exactly right. You can tell by some of the comments that the Covid deniers don't understand the distinction.