Now that's a proper video description. We were looking for the proper way for the horse paddock. We will probably finish off with pea gravel. Thanks for your video
I love the relationship between you two. This is also informative for a new chapter in my life so I Can build a relationship with my family as this one. Praying for you.
True, i address this in an upcoming video, I mentioned in this video many top dress with sand if they will have their livestock on it a lot. Originally we were not planning on keeping the cows on it all winter, but that’s changed and I’ll talk about why in that video coming soon. Gravel could cause a bruise, but still much better than letting them be in mud, mud can cause pulled muscles, mastitis, and foot rot 😣
Foot rot can is usually caused by a cut or sore in the hoof; which is being accelerated with the rocks; this may work ok for a small hers of livestock bit it would never be feasible with a larger herd; if you want your livestock to have a dry place why don’t you just bed an area with straw or corn stalk bales; corn stalk bales will last a lot longer in real wet conditions
So happy you are finally getting this done. Your dad is a real "Jack of all trades." Is there anything he can't do? Lol. He could perform surgery with that digger! Amazing to watch. Now you need to do the whole paddock to get rid of all the mud. No more water in the barn! Yeah!
#askhomesteady I would be concerned with the "2 inch" stones getting lodged in the animal's hooves. I would also think that in time the area will build up manure between stones to the point it will once again become a "mucky" mess during rains. Overall a great job and improvement. I wish you'd have included a final shot showing the water draining out the far end of the pipes, and off your homestead...
We address the 2" stones in an upcoming video, I mentioned that if you are planning on keeping your livestock on the pads full time that sand would be a better fit, we origonally were not going to keep the cows on the pad but rather use it just as an access to the barn and waterer. That has since changed, they are on the pad full time, and we have added another material, you will see in an upcoming video. Also the manure issue is addressed in a future video as well
We address the 2" stones in an upcoming video, I mentioned that if you are planning on keeping your livestock on the pads full time that sand would be a better fit, we origonally were not going to keep the cows on the pad but rather use it just as an access to the barn and waterer. That has since changed, they are on the pad full time, and we have added another material, you will see in an upcoming video. Also the manure issue is addressed in a future video as well
I love seeing videos on homesteading in PA. I'm in Western PA and have a small homestead as I am in a subdivision. I have 4 chicken hens with looking to get 12 or so more as they become available. I also had a 10x20 garden this summer and am looking to expand it. I appreciate all other TH-cam homestead channels but love seeing a homestead in my area so I can learn what works.
Love this series!! We had flooded pastures and put in 2 French drains and a retention pond - best money spent yet!! Love the idea of the heavy traffic pads! Our 2 horses are killing the area infront of our barn! Thanks for sharing this!!
With horses this is called a 'dry lot'. You put the horses in there when it is raining for the most part. You have to scrape it once a year to remove the manure top layer. You cannot use sand when doing this for horses. The top layer is 'screenings' or 'traffic bond'. It is coarse 1/4 rock that interlocks and gets real stiff.
Funny you should post this now! We just put down a big pad of pea gravel about 6" deep for our sheep. It's made a HUGE difference! Inside the sheep shed we lay large wood chips that we change about 2 times/week. By the way, I love the color of your barn!!!
You did a great job-it is better for your animals to stand on the gravel pad then having them stand in the mud and water. Again great job and a very informative video.
LOL... Well boys and girls, it all depends on where you are and how many animals you have... Our cow lot (dry lot) has been re done many times over the years.. The last time it was re done.. it was brought back up to grade with well over 100 truck loads of reclaimed concrete and asphalt as a base and a filler, most of it is 4' to 6' thick. It is topped off with over a foot of reject. It still gets to be a manure/mud mess. It gets cleaned regularly through out the winter. The rock used in this video looks to be "drain rock", I noticed a few comments about the rocks getting stuck in the hooves.. yes, it will!! That is why we use reject, it's generally softer rock and has fines and some dirt in it, so it will pack and not cause hoof issues. Just my take on it.. our cattle have been on the same dry lot every winter for almost 70 years... Concrete would be nice, but we don't own a bank...
i and my buddy did this some 30 years ago and it didnt work, first it made for a lot of stone brushing cracked hoves , it was not long and the live stock had it loaded in cow poo wotch was worse then the mud, at least with the mud to poo washed in, and was npt at all like the slimy ,ess the rock and stone area at the feding bunks ended uup being, as all the poo runs down t the bottom and is trapped there making a real sess pool, we both ended up digging it all out, and compacting graval and black topping for ease of scraping it up, concret was not in the budget for ether one of us
Thank you. I have been struggling with mud for the last couple of years. I think I won't have to put the fabric down though, because we only have a few inches of soil on top of lava rock.
You mentioned in the comments they were you were gonna do a follow up video. Where can I find that video in your playlists? Would like to view that video as well. If it's easier to search for the title of the video, please provide that as well.
When you make one of these you also want to make a tromel to let you wash the gravel every so often. Gets the dirt and manure out the gravel to keep the gravel in good condition and draining. With the right screen sizes you can reclassify the gravel at the same time you are washing it to let you get the big stuff back to the base and smaller stuff for the surface.
This is fantastic well done. Do you think that this kind of set up could be used for tractors? In one of the fields on my gran dads farm there’s a big muddy indentation at the entrance that a fella who has been renting caused with his Fastrac and wagon.
Good idea only thing is it wouldnt work for my area, I am at the bottom of 2 hills so my back area is a mini pond every time we get rain and having gravel is a bad thing for my horse which can cause bad things to her feet(entire stable area is a muck hole). Wish I could just dig small trenches for the water to drain the rest of the way to the ditches. Hope you have a great day.
That's a great solution for driveways and walkways! I know you said you might top it with sand in the future, but until then, I think anyone who does this is going to have a nightmare on their hands trying to clean up manure.
Surprisingly gold mining has a solution to getting the dirt and manure out of gravel in the form of a trommel. A rotating section of classifying screens starting small and ending large with a sprayer bar washing mud off the gravel as that is where the gold is so the exact same setup would work well for cleaning classified gravel.
that is very specific to your town and state regulations, check your local health department and zoning if your worried about the regs, the gravel pad probably not so much to worry about, but curtain drains can have regulations that keep you from putting them in near buildings, septic systems, etc.
What would happen if you put filter fabric over the rock (to keep the rock from getting plugged over time) and covering the fabric with 6 inches of sand?
You don't want sand, I think it's a mistake. If anything put clean 1a limestone. Up here in pa it's what they use on the road for anti skid during winter, (cinders). But they're clean. A little expensive but they'll lock in with the other gravel. They make a grid lock Pentagon shaped plastic that locks everything together and even driving a truck on it won't rot it, but that's overkill.
Your dad is adorable those dimples melllllt!! No disrespect just an admirer of all things beautiful handsome and all due to the inside matching the outside...your family is just so awesome..love that grasshopper so stinkin cute!!! Lil spitfire!!! Merry Christmas and happy New Year to you and yours from me and my own...with love and great respect and admiration appreciation and just so proud of your positive and sincere honest kind sweetest most pure of heart souls...from your fans in California Scout and my brood...lol...my flock...my little chicks...and my grown hens lol.
About a year ago they did a video about a guy that came and did both of the cows. I would assume he's been there since then, but the cows (from what I could tell from this video) are looking overdue for another trimming...
Unetchya is right, we have a guy come, and he actually came a few weeks ago, the shots of cow hoofs in this video were B roll from videos back earlier this year.
Why not use traffic bond for your top layer, it’s a much tighter pack and easier on the animals feet. If you want to keep things really clean a concrete pad is a must.
You do realize that your cows can get serious stone bruises on their feet right? You might want to think about topping it with some sand to soften it on their feet. I realize that horses are more effected by rocks but I can't imagine that the cows won't be effected at all.
Oh my goodness, this looks really expensive! Doesn’t look like a very simple solution actually. That’s too bad for very small homesteads that don’t have a lot of money and during this recession.
Don't bother. It will injure your animals feet. Better to dig it out and dump about a foot of tree mulch instead of rock. The wood will absorb the water and allow drainage and will not hurt your animals feet. Otherwise you will have stone bruises cows that are down or just refuse to stand on it. Try walking on a gravel path barefooted. Now do it with a 200 pound pack on. That is the pain they will feel. Wood chips will decompose over time but can be found everywhere that has some tree trimming services for thousands cheaper. And the result after several years is the best growing soil you have ever seen in your life. When you see plants sprouting you will know its time to either top it off with fresh Wood chips or dig it out and top with more Wood chips. Just a thought from someone who has raised beef and horses.
Premier solar portable electric fencing may reduce mud if have the land and time and ability to move lightweight...though often having enough land to rotate isn't possible...woodlands can be used if take down enough trees them cows can enjoy summer shade...thinning trees takes more time and resources though...anyone else got ideas for mud prevention without money for hi traffic pads and french drains and stone/gravel and non texture fabric for high psi on land large livestock? Cows...
Now that's a proper video description. We were looking for the proper way for the horse paddock. We will probably finish off with pea gravel. Thanks for your video
I love the relationship between you two. This is also informative for a new chapter in my life so I Can build a relationship with my family as this one. Praying for you.
Good luck
Looks so much better. Loves you Dads dimples.🌻🌻🌻🌻
You have to keep a closer eye on their Hooves though with all that gravel they could get a stone in the hoof that can create an ulcer.
True, i address this in an upcoming video, I mentioned in this video many top dress with sand if they will have their livestock on it a lot. Originally we were not planning on keeping the cows on it all winter, but that’s changed and I’ll talk about why in that video coming soon. Gravel could cause a bruise, but still much better than letting them be in mud, mud can cause pulled muscles, mastitis, and foot rot 😣
Foot rot can is usually caused by a cut or sore in the hoof; which is being accelerated with the rocks; this may work ok for a small hers of livestock bit it would never be feasible with a larger herd; if you want your livestock to have a dry place why don’t you just bed an area with straw or corn stalk bales; corn stalk bales will last a lot longer in real wet conditions
What a refreshing video (no pun intended). You two are a trip to watch. Enjoy that coffee with fresh cream!
Thumbs up for the happy cows. And for the great info.
So happy you are finally getting this done. Your dad is a real "Jack of all trades." Is there anything he can't do? Lol. He could perform surgery with that digger! Amazing to watch. Now you need to do the whole paddock to get rid of all the mud. No more water in the barn! Yeah!
#askhomesteady I would be concerned with the "2 inch" stones getting lodged in the animal's hooves. I would also think that in time the area will build up manure between stones to the point it will once again become a "mucky" mess during rains.
Overall a great job and improvement. I wish you'd have included a final shot showing the water draining out the far end of the pipes, and off your homestead...
We address the 2" stones in an upcoming video, I mentioned that if you are planning on keeping your livestock on the pads full time that sand would be a better fit, we origonally were not going to keep the cows on the pad but rather use it just as an access to the barn and waterer. That has since changed, they are on the pad full time, and we have added another material, you will see in an upcoming video. Also the manure issue is addressed in a future video as well
We address the 2" stones in an upcoming video, I mentioned that if you are planning on keeping your livestock on the pads full time that sand would be a better fit, we origonally were not going to keep the cows on the pad but rather use it just as an access to the barn and waterer. That has since changed, they are on the pad full time, and we have added another material, you will see in an upcoming video. Also the manure issue is addressed in a future video as well
I love seeing videos on homesteading in PA. I'm in Western PA and have a small homestead as I am in a subdivision. I have 4 chicken hens with looking to get 12 or so more as they become available. I also had a 10x20 garden this summer and am looking to expand it. I appreciate all other TH-cam homestead channels but love seeing a homestead in my area so I can learn what works.
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Love this series!! We had flooded pastures and put in 2 French drains and a retention pond - best money spent yet!! Love the idea of the heavy traffic pads! Our 2 horses are killing the area infront of our barn! Thanks for sharing this!!
With horses this is called a 'dry lot'. You put the horses in there when it is raining for the most part. You have to scrape it once a year to remove the manure top layer. You cannot use sand when doing this for horses. The top layer is 'screenings' or 'traffic bond'. It is coarse 1/4 rock that interlocks and gets real stiff.
would like to see a follow up video. my experience has been that the big stone will work its way to the top.
Funny you should post this now! We just put down a big pad of pea gravel about 6" deep for our sheep. It's made a HUGE difference! Inside the sheep shed we lay large wood chips that we change about 2 times/week. By the way, I love the color of your barn!!!
You did a great job-it is better for your animals to stand on the gravel pad then having them stand in the mud and water. Again great job and a very informative video.
LOL... Well boys and girls, it all depends on where you are and how many animals you have...
Our cow lot (dry lot) has been re done many times over the years..
The last time it was re done.. it was brought back up to grade with
well over 100 truck loads of reclaimed concrete and asphalt as a base and a filler, most of it is 4' to 6' thick. It is topped off with over a foot of reject. It still gets to be a manure/mud mess. It gets cleaned regularly through out the winter.
The rock used in this video looks to be "drain rock", I noticed a few comments about the rocks getting stuck in the hooves.. yes, it will!!
That is why we use reject, it's generally softer rock and has fines and some dirt in it, so it will pack and not cause hoof issues.
Just my take on it.. our cattle have been on the same dry lot every winter for almost 70 years...
Concrete would be nice, but we don't own a bank...
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You sure are blessed to have Dad in the business 👍. Looks great and functional you must be over joyed!
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i and my buddy did this some 30 years ago and it didnt work, first it made for a lot of stone brushing cracked hoves , it was not long and the live stock had it loaded in cow poo wotch was worse then the mud, at least with the mud to poo washed in, and was npt at all like the slimy ,ess the rock and stone area at the feding bunks ended uup being, as all the poo runs down t the bottom and is trapped there making a real sess pool, we both ended up digging it all out, and compacting graval and black topping for ease of scraping it up, concret was not in the budget for ether one of us
Like your dad! Down to earth.
Thank you. I have been struggling with mud for the last couple of years. I think I won't have to put the fabric down though, because we only have a few inches of soil on top of lava rock.
This is awesome! We have one lower area that is rarely dry.
Coffee breaks ARE necessary. I love how your whole family gets involved when they can. ♥️
Where can I find details about the mesh fabric at?
You mentioned in the comments they were you were gonna do a follow up video. Where can I find that video in your playlists? Would like to view that video as well. If it's easier to search for the title of the video, please provide that as well.
5:36 stuff starts happening.
Dude thank you.
When you make one of these you also want to make a tromel to let you wash the gravel every so often. Gets the dirt and manure out the gravel to keep the gravel in good condition and draining. With the right screen sizes you can reclassify the gravel at the same time you are washing it to let you get the big stuff back to the base and smaller stuff for the surface.
Andrew H Good one!
Could you please tell me what geotextile fabric you used and where you got it?
Would this work on a slope?
happy holidays
Can you give me a link to the geotextile fabric you used? Thanks
Thanks
The pads look Great 👍
Do you have a link for your geotextile fabric?
This is fantastic well done. Do you think that this kind of set up could be used for tractors? In one of the fields on my gran dads farm there’s a big muddy indentation at the entrance that a fella who has been renting caused with his Fastrac and wagon.
What size or number fabric did you use ?
I'm Not Finding Cost For Things Great Project, Thanks, #Al.homesteaders , Penney C
Very informative video/presentation.. Just subscribed.. God bless.
GREAT FOR DRAINAGE ...... MUST WATCH THE COWS HOOVES FOR STONES !!!!
Improve drainage, add lime or calcic/magnesium rich minerals to aggregate soil, and utilize traffic tolerant or non-palatable vegetation.
na gravel is better, your way sounds gay
4 inch and down is the base, then 2 inch and down then like you said a fine topping would be ideal. This will be so much more healthy for the cows.
Till your spending hundreds extra every year digging out rocks from their hooves.
Alot of extra trimming hooves.
Good idea only thing is it wouldnt work for my area, I am at the bottom of 2 hills so my back area is a mini pond every time we get rain and having gravel is a bad thing for my horse which can cause bad things to her feet(entire stable area is a muck hole). Wish I could just dig small trenches for the water to drain the rest of the way to the ditches. Hope you have a great day.
That's a great solution for driveways and walkways! I know you said you might top it with sand in the future, but until then, I think anyone who does this is going to have a nightmare on their hands trying to clean up manure.
I have a great solution for that, video coming stay tuned.
Surprisingly gold mining has a solution to getting the dirt and manure out of gravel in the form of a trommel. A rotating section of classifying screens starting small and ending large with a sprayer bar washing mud off the gravel as that is where the gold is so the exact same setup would work well for cleaning classified gravel.
Looks great! Will it eventually clog up with organic matter brought in on hooves and dung?
What type of contractor does this work?
Good info and good video but not simple
@ASKHOMESTEADY
What kind of building codes can affect installation of the Curtain Drains and pad?
that is very specific to your town and state regulations, check your local health department and zoning if your worried about the regs, the gravel pad probably not so much to worry about, but curtain drains can have regulations that keep you from putting them in near buildings, septic systems, etc.
One way of cutting down on mud in the yard is to feed hay off the ground in hay bunks. You can fabricate them on farm.
My two dogs turned my whole back yard to mud with all this winter rain...
It’s worth pointing out that you used Non-Woven Textile.
give it time!
Love it
how does this cost compare to having a cement pad instead?
Love from Pakistan keep it up m8
Would it be cheaper just to cement that sucker?
Nope, otherwise I would!
What would happen if you put filter fabric over the rock (to keep the rock from getting plugged over time) and covering the fabric with 6 inches of sand?
Approximate cost?
Are you in the Northeast?
You don't want sand, I think it's a mistake. If anything put clean 1a limestone. Up here in pa it's what they use on the road for anti skid during winter, (cinders). But they're clean. A little expensive but they'll lock in with the other gravel. They make a grid lock Pentagon shaped plastic that locks everything together and even driving a truck on it won't rot it, but that's overkill.
What's the story on the Gradall working in the drone shot at~11: 39 and behind you at 13:40 ?? Is it your Dad's? Really enjoy this series!
You will learn about that in Monday's Video
Your dad is adorable those dimples melllllt!! No disrespect just an admirer of all things beautiful handsome and all due to the inside matching the outside...your family is just so awesome..love that grasshopper so stinkin cute!!! Lil spitfire!!! Merry Christmas and happy New Year to you and yours from me and my own...with love and great respect and admiration appreciation and just so proud of your positive and sincere honest kind sweetest most pure of heart souls...from your fans in California Scout and my brood...lol...my flock...my little chicks...and my grown hens lol.
I can only image how bad the animals feel would be and how bad it would be on their joint🤐
#Askhomesteady I watch Hoof GP trim dairy cow feet and wonder if you do your own cows or do you have someone come in to care for their feet?
About a year ago they did a video about a guy that came and did both of the cows. I would assume he's been there since then, but the cows (from what I could tell from this video) are looking overdue for another trimming...
ubetchya78 thanks
Unetchya is right, we have a guy come, and he actually came a few weeks ago, the shots of cow hoofs in this video were B roll from videos back earlier this year.
The cows are avoiding it.
Why not use traffic bond for your top layer, it’s a much tighter pack and easier on the animals feet. If you want to keep things really clean a concrete pad is a must.
Your dad looks like Bill Murry
“you can charge more for a FANCY name”…. crazy but true
You do realize that your cows can get serious stone bruises on their feet right? You might want to think about topping it with some sand to soften it on their feet. I realize that horses are more effected by rocks but I can't imagine that the cows won't be effected at all.
Handsome like your dad.
Oh my goodness, this looks really expensive! Doesn’t look like a very simple solution actually. That’s too bad for very small homesteads that don’t have a lot of money and during this recession.
Can’t afford it...
Don't bother. It will injure your animals feet. Better to dig it out and dump about a foot of tree mulch instead of rock. The wood will absorb the water and allow drainage and will not hurt your animals feet. Otherwise you will have stone bruises cows that are down or just refuse to stand on it. Try walking on a gravel path barefooted. Now do it with a 200 pound pack on. That is the pain they will feel. Wood chips will decompose over time but can be found everywhere that has some tree trimming services for thousands cheaper. And the result after several years is the best growing soil you have ever seen in your life. When you see plants sprouting you will know its time to either top it off with fresh Wood chips or dig it out and top with more Wood chips. Just a thought from someone who has raised beef and horses.
Premier solar portable electric fencing may reduce mud if have the land and time and ability to move lightweight...though often having enough land to rotate isn't possible...woodlands can be used if take down enough trees them cows can enjoy summer shade...thinning trees takes more time and resources though...anyone else got ideas for mud prevention without money for hi traffic pads and french drains and stone/gravel and non texture fabric for high psi on land large livestock? Cows...
Seems like alot of effort and money for just a couple cows. Unless I'm underestimating the amount of cows.
Check out Greg Judy's channel. He has a better solution for mud problems. Save money and let the cows do the work.
I just interviewed Greg Judy, video comes out tomorrow.
So happy you found a good mentor! Work on building that carbon in the soil.
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Give em a pasture. How about that? Let them roam free instead of wallowing in their own shit.
Just put boots on the cows
You talk a lot. Js. :-)
They Will give ☕x cows also😏
Best of luck not my style bro.
First!
only. LOL
Just throw rock down. Okay. Lol not the smartest thing to do.
Could just stop keeping animal and make money another way. No mud problem then.