To secure their popularity, they should've released something after queendom puzzle like H1-key, rocket punch, and purple kiss. SSQ entertainment really missed out on the queendom puzzle hype 😬
@@Unknown-jg4uq There's definitely some hype. Considering Nana ranked 2nd and Wooyeon ranked 9th, it definitely would've helped them. After all, woo!ah! Is going on a positive trajectory since debut. Doing nothing after getting impressive results on queendom puzzle just made Nana and Wooyeon go to Queendom puzzle for nothing.
@@Unknown-jg4uqThe Queendom Puzzle group just dissepeared, I only remember they where in Mama and then vanished. Their song also flopped and the group name is too hard to remember.
As a WOW, I was so happy to see a video on woo!ah! but then I remembered why they needed it. It pisses me off that they're yet another great gg that built up a company only to get dumped once the new bg came out.
"If you are unable to promote two groups, do not debut two groups" - THIS!! Its such an obvious statement, however so many companies fail to realize this or just don't care about their limitations and choose to spread themselves way too thin at the detriment of their artists!!!
companies debuting girl groups to earn some money and experience, then debuting a boy group and immediately dropping the girl group feels so commonplace. it's so frustrating to see girl groups getting shoved aside by their companies so often edit, lol i got to the end and realized the vid said the same thing i did just much more eloquently
You forgot to mention that Wooyeon had a big role in the popular kdrama revenge of others, there was also a clip in the series where all the members preformed their song "Catch the stars"
To note they were also nominated for MAMA awards’s Best New Female Artist and a few other awards in 2020 but did not win any of them (yes they had such a poor budget yet for their debut mv yet still got nominated due to the amount of promo the group had)
I have been a casual listener of Woo!ah and when I noticed that they started to lack activities I knew this was going to be another unfortunate case like Hot Issue, Nature, Lunarsolar, Mimirose
Nature unofficially disbanded sadly and ofc Hot Issue disbanded and so did LunarSolar. Mimirose’s hiatus situation is different as their CEO saved them from a scamming situation
the weird thing about mimiirose is, that they released a very good comeback just to leave the company shortly after. From what I heard there was a fraud towards the CEO but that's all. Did they shut the company down or what happened?
Nana is and was so popular on Queendom Puzzle and Elz7up so I really don't understand why there's no regular comebacks for them last year and this year. I smell misogyny
Came back here after a while. Luckily it seems like their really long hiatus was mainly because the entertainment was switching buildings and I think also rebranding itself as well as wooah. They had their release Blush 2 months ago which was only made bcz fans were complaining abt wooah having no comeback, and is having another comeback soon 🤗
also rollercoaster was when they had significantly less promotion during comeback. i remember loving the song and being surprised by them only doing a few stages like their previous comebacks there's also an issue of the members posting tiktok videos just for the company to delete it afterwards. it happened too many times and its really odd because tiktok videos would help with their social media prescene while they are on hiatus
As someone who was a big fan of woo!ah! in 2020, and has been a casual listener ever since, it's really frustrating to see the company just cast aside these girls, ESPECIALLY AFTER hearing how the ceo literally begged their parents to let them join the company. THEIR MOST RECENT COMEBACK WAS SO GOOD THOUGH (stream BLUSH), but with the lack of promotions and media presence because of DXMON, it might not get the popularity it truly deserves. I just hope this doesn't hurt their upward streak because the girls are so so so unique and special to this industry. ALSO, I kind of wish that all the members were given EQUAL promotions outside of the group (like not just nana and wooyeon BUT I LOVE THEIR PROMOTIONS LIKE THEIR ACTING IS CHEFS KISS). Like put the girls on more acting jobs (all of them 100% have the visuals for it and Minseo, Lucy and Sora's stage presence proves they can act well), VARIETY SHOWS PLEASE, and like release more tiktoks and vlogs cuz they can all dance in this really captivating way yk ??
Can you guys please talk about Playback and their dissapearance from the industry or perhaps Tri_be, the group that is known but still not hitting it big despite all their efforts.
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore I wouldn't blame NV/SSQ for that, I do wish they did more for others, but can't control who people like, and many fans and non fans like Nana a lot, so only natural to push the one that is bound to get a lot more attention
the video was amazing as always, but it's very frustrating and sad that woo!ah! is going through this type of situation when the group has a lot of potential to grow, and for their company to do this kind of thing is a very senseless decision..
I have been a WOW since their debut. These girls are nothing but pure happiness for me. I enjoy watching every music video and blogs and all that comes with them. Every time something comes out for preorder, I buy it. I have falling for the group and the fandom as well. I always feel so welcome when speaking to fellow WOW. ❤ Everyday I hope and pray that these girls get another comeback soon. I am ready to be blown away the music. They have so much to offer and it’s something that many people should check out.
They had a comeback guys!! Blush out now on all streaming platforms 💗 Also they have a new logo and the company renamed them to wooah without the exclaims to make it easier for people to search for them so it seems like they're going to start promoting the girls now finallyy
I'm so glad you talked about Woo!Ah!💛 They're such talented girls with great music and choreography, but they are constantly being mistreated and sexualised by their agency ): I think talking about the sexual choreography for "bing bing" that the girls had to dance to while they were still minors would've been an important addition to the video, but alas. Edit: another thing that's worth mentioning is how at the start of their career, the company used to sub *all* of Woo!Ah!'s content, but now it doesn't sub anything at all (besides like one random video every half a year)
another case of a company focusing more on a boy group instead. wooah's numbers were growing despite their inconsistent sound, they got put on hiatus for over a year and while it was announced that they will have a comeback mid-year, elz7up is having a confirmed cb in may so its likely that they won't have a release until summer at the earliest. a shame since rollercoaster was a great kpop song
Ahhh I’m so late!! I just came back from Jihoon Carat’s new vid about Busters (pls support them as their situation is horrible). Thank u so much for doing a vid on Woo!Ah! And I’m also a fan of their new brother group and I hope fellow Wows don’t blame the boys for their hiatus. I hope these girls get a new comeback soon and they deserve so much better.
Thank you very much for this video ❤ It's really frustrating to see the girls hard work being thrown away by the company. I hope the group's situation changes in the future. they deserve more! #WooAhDeservesBetter
woo!ah! situation is so frustrating because they were doing exceptionally well for a small company compared to where they started. their sales were growing a fair amount each comeback. i know nana has been busy with other schedules but there i can't believe their company gave them three comebacks in 2022 only to shelve them after that. i really hope they get to release something soon and this hiatus hasn't impacted their momentum.
I think it's because newer girl groups are getting more popularity and woo!ah couldn't catch up now to the new girl groups and their agency stopped promoting them at the moment. They only comeback once a year which is kinda sad, they deserve to have good treatment. But I still support them, one of my favorite underrated K-pop girl groups. Hoping this wouldn't lead to disbandment.
these girls had a bright future! i swear nana is literally everywhere yet the company can't promote them properly, like i know some of their songs were semi-viral so please give us a comeback!! (though i think part of the reason why they haven't had a comeback was because of the new bg, i think the company is really just using the boys as a quick cash grab opportunity)
love the frequent uploads!!! i didnt know anything abt woo!ah! but i liked their song bad girl, this vid was great!!! could u perhaps make a video abt gwsns mismanagement and member miyas solo comeback that was just released? thank you!
I am so pissed with companies that will always prioritize bg thinking they will be the golden ticket for the company. Woo!ah! Was growing so much each comeback jfc
It's good to see someone covering if not acknowledging one of their generations, best girl group, like StayC they are just a fun group to listen to, constantly shelling out hit song after hit song but while StayC has had bigger and well-deserved success, Woo ah success while impressive has been less impacting in the charts, unfortunate because like I stated they have songs deserving of top positions in any music charts, of course not belonging to a big company doesn't help their cause ,but more importantly add to that their own company misuse of a potential talent like Woo ah and you could end up with another popular group stuck in the basement until the company decides they will no longer be promoting them or the members begin to abandon ship...Miss A, Girls Generation or Fx come to mind among many others...hopefully this will not be the case, and more so I pray that this delay will not result in the exiting of members, Woo ah's greatest strength is how they stick out as a whole group, imagine Red Velvet without any of the members could they function of course but something will definitely feel off.
'Payday' is a part of my soul~ its the mother of 'NewJeans - Cookie' ('RV - Bad Boy' is the daddy) and 'I Dont Miss U' is sitting pretty in 2nd place~~ I think the biggest mistake with woo!ah! was putting NANA on a pedestal. (same problem ELRIS has with putting Sohee on a pedestal.) if a company doesn't raise all its members equally.. they're doomed to fail. and the irony is that LUCY is the prettiest in woo!ah! but guys dont like tomboys.. and Yukyung is the prettiest in woo!ah! but Sohee has the fan(p)cam bootee
it’s sad too that lucy is treated bad because she’s set up as the tomboy member but she has said herself how feminine she is and she likes to feel more pretty than “handsome”
@@ry_katherine OMG I STARTED CRYING READING THIS! MY BABY LUCY! and I also realized I need to buy a stuffed animal to hug for moments like these or else my heart gonna burst..
Lucy is my bias, and I am sad to hear that she is pushed out of their social media. I have no idea who the boy group is, girl groups are all I am interested in. I love Woo!Ah! but I worry about encouraging a K-pop industry that takes advantage of women. I hope they are being treated well at least personally if not professionally.
I’m typing this while watching and i just have to ask, if you’re the CEO, what will you do actually? With the amount of girl group, the struggle to maintain fans attention, selling albums, promotions and etc, what can you do? You said it yourself, they’re from a small company. If there’s not much significant profits, what can we do?
But they were continously growing every comeback. Album sales ×6 in two years is really good for a nugu gg, and they were rising on the download chart between. If they kept going and possibly shuffled some finances, they could've built a (small) but stable fan base and maybe once the skills had then ability to to tour they could debut a bg.
Eu amo esse vídeo e obrigada por postá-lo, o woo!ah! tem um grande potencial que nós wows pudemos ver - e vemos - durante esses anos e esse potencial ser jogado de escanteio repentinamente é horrível para o grupo e para nós fãs. É clara a vontade das meninas de querer voltar com um comeback mas a empresa não ajuda e mesmo com # sendo feitas no Twitter o CEO da SSQ resolve só dar uma pequena notícia de retorno para abafar o caso, mas nós NÃO vamos esquecer. Woo!ah!, nós te amamos! #WooAhDeservesBetter
I hope they really do a comback this year or post more content on TH-cam so they can get new fans , because the girls it self post sm on weverse , sora posts like daily & I'm so thankful for that. I also think that Nana is a bit overpromted compared to the rest & Happy late birthday to her !!
they’ve been milking nana like crazy, overworking her sending her on all these side quests. it gives me major chuu vibes… all the girls have it girl qualities and they should give them all the same treatment
I'm scared that the company might think that promoting Nana and Wooyeon individually will make them more profit. why can't the company make them do both? Nana and Wooyeon can be an actress and Idol at the same time. I feel bad for the other members.
Love their new single blush that came out after this video was released and which is the reason I’m trying to figure out who they are cause I just found out about them from “blush” it’s so cute
I remembered, I discovered their group on Facebook, because I have a friend who shared their debut photos. Additionally, I stanned them because their debut date is the same as my birthday 🥹 but i'm sad that they are getting mistreated and NV/SSQ should've used QP's hype and released woo!ah!'s cb. I hope they won't be another BVNDIT case.
i feel like as much as we can’t control who people likes but how are the less popular members even going to get any traction if there’s bare minimum exposures to them
promotions also seem to have significantly dropped after the release of JOY like they didn’t even attended some broadcasting stations like how they do with their previous releases
I love Woo!Ah! sadly they aren't so much popular when they deserve to be more recognized with good songs but i know one member is now a member of El7sup, i would prefer Woo!Ah! comeback but i wish el7zup success and specially Woo!Ah! success, i'm waiting fot their comeback
IT WAS SUCH A DUMB MOVE FOR THEM TO PUT WOO!AH! behind the spotlight after Nana gaining so much fans from QP, which couldve been their headstart to gain even more fans IF they released a comeback last year, WHY DID THEY NOT GO FOR THAT MOVE INSTEAD
I really hate the Misogynistic of K-Pop and as Flover i really know this cause fromis_9 had a same moment when Pledis debuting TWS After fromis_9, gugudan, PRISTIN, Weeekly, EVERGLOW, Cherry Bullet and now woo!ah!, i really hate the reality that Boygroup is more valuable than Girlgroup
What did dxmon and elzzup do? Its not their fault idc if u know that already, wishing that is unfair to both groups bc theyve still all worked hard to debut. If ur gonna wish anything just wish ur “wicked energy” on the companies/they get better management or that the groups move companies instead
The group from the reality flopped so I was expecting to see more cbs of the groups, H1-Key never stopped promoting after the reality, getting the buzz of new fans, meanwhile wooah and rocket punch are laying low, like they are on hiatus
i looked up the boygroup from the same company and they arent even doing well. like im sorry, you completely ignore a group youve built up for years because you dont have enough funds to promote two groups, yet insist on debuting another one? did they expect to cash out quick since bg stans generally purchase more albums/merch? that didnt even work so where are they now, as a company if they had kept giving woo!ah! frequent promotions, especially after elzup, their popularity could have increased to the point of finantial sustainability idk im ranting but its bc im mad. i started following woo!ah! in late 2021/early 2022, i never expected them to just drop out from the face of the earth. and for some reason the fact that the company's little gamble with their boygroup didnt out makes me even more upset. it wasnt even worth it EDIT: the bg may still become popular in the future, i have no idea about their skills or music so for all i know they could be super deserving of success, which is great, the company should have realized they couldnt support two groups at once tho
Exactly! DXMON's "SPARK," despite being a title track, is severely underpromoted. It hasn't even reached 1M views yet! Sales aren't bad for a rookie from a small company, the boys are doing challenges and all that stuff, but it's like SSQ is already holding them on 8TURN/LUN8 standards in terms of hype and sales...
this literally happens all the time in kpop and i hate it, company debuts a gg, they become fairly popular and then they ignore them in favour of a boy group that will probably flop
@@n1ghtflight exactly and look what happened like TFN now just disbanded cuz of HOR7ION Lapillus and their other new Filipino group that’s a spinoff group of the same show Hor7ion came from (dream maker), New:ID
Yes Nana is the most popular member of the group and it’s almost like Cha Eunwoo and Park JaeChan’s group situations. They know them but not their groups.
I feel the pain about woo!ah!'s treatment, but I don't think it's misogyny. That's just your lashing out I think. The problem is that the group didn't grow fast enough to support the money being spent, I feel. Alll these group projects are expensive and rely on investors and if those investors don't see a return after a while they pull out. I doubt NV or their investors saw a penny from woo!ah! in profit. So, yeah, I think that's what happened here, which is a crying shame because woo!ah! could have been in the 60k sales range in a couple more comebacks. If only the money had stayed in place, but SSQ don't control that. Instead, we see them being 'broken up for parts'. I wouldn't be surprised if we see a Nana solo before we see a group CB. The salt in the would is that the investors have clearly been moved over to Dxmon, who were probably sold to investors as a new opportunity but are now struggling to match woo!ah!'s sales numbers or popularity out of the gate. It feels so futile and stupid.
Right, boy band fans are very loyal customers. There are boybands who aren't nct zb1 selling at least 100k. I think if woo!ah toured, maybe like international tours, it'd be a different story. These tours with their merchandise make up for any debt accrued while making the release. They couldn't do that because they debuted during the pandemic.
So Songyee DID leave because it was harder than she thought it would be. I kind of already figured that out from some of her posts on Instagram after she left, but she deleted those. Personally I can't see what she meant about "not deserving" since she was already IN the group, but hey, unlike with some groups, she was at least given the choice. Also it's kind of creepy how the CEO begged for the number of a high school student.
as much as i got the frustration i still don't understand why fandoms keep pushing these stupid mass email things as if they don't go straight to spam like girl have those ever worked? nope and they never will especially since they're coming from international fans. i promise you you're doing absolutely nothing with the mass email nonsense😭😂😂😂
I understand your point on a larger scale, but in this case, mass emailing absolutely has worked, and every email has been read. The business inquiry email was a dead end, but their marketing team staff email invoked immediate responses to a number of things. The SSQ website identified DXMON as their 1st Artist for a few weeks, and emails to them got it fixed literally within hours. Weeks later, WOWs mass emailed regarding woo!ah!'s TikToks never being uploaded to TH-cam Shorts throughout their career despite DXMON's being uploaded-- the very next upload, this was fixed. It actually helps, a lot.
I like the content for woo!ah but I feel like a lot of this video is misguided. DXMON is being promoted like woo!ah was promoted back when they debuted, with the vlogs and traveling to other countries. Except that woo!ah went to Vietnam while DXMON went to America and Japan. The only difference I can see is the DXMON just has a bigger budget for stuff that woo!ah at those different times (because one was at the companies beginning while the other was after they had woo!ah set up). I also don't understand the hatred of DXMON getting more content, because it's clear they're trying to establish a new group. New groups need to go all out for their debuts to establish themselves in the industry, especially if they aren't big 4. That's what woo!ah did their first few releases. It also wasn't mentioned that NV/SSQ had just recently moved buildings, and with the name rebrand. It could be assumed that there may have been a restructuring in the company which may explain why the comeback message was messy or other stuff. As well as it being a small company so they only have the resources to focus on one group at a time. For the issue of deleting content, I remember hearing from a youtuber kaylasays (I forget which video), that she also deletes videos if they get low views. She explained that if you have videos with low views, the algorithm stops promoting you. So to stay in the algorithm you need to keep promoting videos with lots of views... this could be why the company deletes some videos. To keep them in the algorithm... although this is just my educated guess, and I really don't know why. Also, I remember a few months back that they were hiring a videographer. Aka someone to record and make content for them. I don't know how long it affected but some of the lack of content is explained by the fact that they just literally had no one to record that content. I feel like saying its misogyny this early into their career is a bit gross, because we don't know if they actually being shelved for a boy group or if it's just the company can only handle one group at a time (you can only grow so much with one group which is probably why they debuted a second group, so they can grow and promote multiple groups at the same time). Throwing around such an accusation this early without solid evidence feels very gross, I personally would've waited a few months to see these accusations are confirmed. As just yesterday all of the members released a choreographed dance to their youtube shorts, meaning that they're back in the studio dancing and practicing. For what... most likely their upcoming comeback. However, I do agree that SSQ/NV should push other members. I feel like they should've sent Lucy to Queendom Puzzle as well because she could've slayed. This is like the one thing I agree with in the video and the thing that makes me angry. All of this is obviously just my educated guess/opinion, but I really do think this video jumped the gun... I'm waiting for about a month about DXMON's schedule ending to see if woo!ah makes any news about a comeback. Cause if not, I'm gonna start making some noise because there'd literally be no excuse (their other groups promotions have ended, and they said they were working on that comeback since back in January/early February). But right now, I feel like a lot of the hate is unprecedented... but I understand it getting to a breaking point.
View count would be the logical explanation, but it is not the reason behind SSQ deleting woo!ah!'s videos. They do it arbitrarily, usually in mass, and as far as we can tell there is no discernable reason. Higher performing videos have been deleted, higher performing videos using their own audio deleted, lower performing videos were kept up during deletion sprees, etc. Videos have been deleted hours after being posted, then reuploaded days later (with no changes), then deleted again a week later. It's very difficult to figure out. It's harder to track, but they also delete random stuff from other social media platforms. On Instagram they uploaded 9 images to make a 3x3 grid for Pit-a-Pat concept images, and at some point they just deleted one of the images w/ Wooyeon's face. They've (twice) uploaded pictures of Nana and Wooyeon recently and deleted them hours/minutes after uploading. TikTok's algorithm actually punishes you for deleting or privating lower view videos, as well. You could attest it to their SNS manager just not knowing about that but that lower view count pattern doesn't exist, so it's not that. Members have also been recording their own content that SSQ just won't upload-- Lucy and Minseo have uploaded multiple TikTok challenges to Weverse. If they're already recording it themselves, I don't see the harm in the company uploading it to their official channels in times where staff may be busy with DXMON. It does FAR more damage to leave them without content for weeks at a time than it does uploading a few phone-recorded dance challenges. SSQ/NV's staff remained the same throughout the move. The company building was sold at a loss in September and they were moved in to their new building around 4 months later. I think it's likely the relocation was to have separate practice rooms, and the rebrand was for a fresh start. The only significant staff shakeup occurred very early on in NV's life, when the co-founder Han Ji-seok left. I do believe the company doesn't have the staff to promote two groups at the *same time*, definitely. Job application sites cite them at having only 17 employees, and DXMON has been spotted with the same staff members that accompany woo!ah! to events. However, DXMON's budget is quite literally insane for SSQ. Two music videos shot in LA, 23 music show stages, a 4-track mini album, and nearly 40 collaborations with other groups/idols on TikTok (the number exceeds woo!ah!'s total amount of collaborations across their career, and the total amount of challenge uploads for their last 3 comebacks combined). I can't be convinced that DXMON's debut would've suffered or not been still larger than any of woo!ah!'s if woo!ah! had been given budget for a small comeback after Queendom Puzzle in August. DXMON easily could've debuted with a 2-track Single Album, similar to woo!ah!'s debut, and still gotten the level of promotion they got. It wasn't necessary to have woo!ah! drop off the face of planet Earth. I appreciate your thoughts and don't intend for this to be hostile. Just want to offer viewpoints from the other side. 🙂 By the way, I would not anticipate comeback news for woo!ah! anytime soon. Recording for the album has been completed, and shooting would've likely been beginning about right now. SSQ takes about 2 months to edit their MVs, so it would've been a May comeback. Unfortunately, EL7Z UP announced their comeback will take place in May, likely accompanied by their world tour. It seemed to take members by surprise and is what prompted Sora to hint at the delay on Fromm and Weverse (and Nana later). The company has still yet to retract their announcement of a comeback in the first half of 2023 in spite of Wows mass emailing for answers, though. I'm very nervous to see how the company will handle it, since by the time EL7Z UP is done promoting, I could very easily see them opting to have DXMON comeback instead. I'm expecting the worst.
@@Antmagic2I have no clue on why they delete content… that was just my guess. The budget argument though, I remember watching a reaction video and an interesting point came up in one of them (again I forget which), but in a reaction for Spark. They said it looked like they didn’t rent out the street… as in they’re just recording a video on the street like the rest of us. It makes me think that a lot of the places they went to are just public spots, and a majority of it went to the cgi which would definitely cut the budget down a bit. Also… for the length of the mini album. Isn’t one of the members a/learning producing? That would definitely save budget because one of the members is working on it, sorta like (G)-Idle. I’m just asking, I forget if this is true or not. I also don’t really care about collabs on tiktok cause that doesn’t really have to do with budget unless if they pay to be in each others videos… then wtf. But I do think woo!ah has had more collabs overall But overall yeah, El7z Up has royally screwed up the schedule… because I think a comeback was planned for after the DXMON debut originally. But now with the El7z Up content. It’s throwing everyone for a loop so honestly, I blame Mnet. Personally, I hope they at least release a pre-release like Burn Up to hold over fans. But I feel like calling it misogynistic this early is not ok, because we just don’t know enough info rn. It’s just speculation atm based off of what we do know… I hope we know more as DXMON scheduling comes to an end
@@randomkid4783 I do know the members are instrumentally trained-- not fully sure if they're training to be producers/writers as well, but I've heard so. They however didn't have any part in the production of the mini album. The mini album was produced by collapsedone (woo!ah!'s usual producer) and a newer producer named Kass for the other 3 songs. I would imagine they most definitely pay the other groups to be part of their videos. It's a lot of exposure collabing with groups like (G)I-DLE, I can't imagine there isn't a price tag on that. If they didn't, we would've seen more collabs from when Nana was MC of Show Champion. DXMON definitely have more collabs than woo!ah!-- it's been a minute since I checked, but I believe woo!ah!'s total count is less than 30 through their career.
@@Antmagic2 I feel like there's a lot more, cause they've has lots of collabs with the same people... either I'm just being too optimistic but I just assume the tiktok trends are less so paid and more so management just being like.... wanna do each other's trend for exposure. I'm happy to see collapsedone working with SSQ/NV more. They're really good and it just means that woo!ah when they comeback will most likely be collapsedone. Although I will be honest... Rollercoaster wasn't my fav
Gen Z? oh i was though that we had 4th gen...lol But yes....sadly something bad is going on with Woo!Ah! one little plus....Woo!ah! instagram it's still pretty active;P SO WE MUST KEEP HOPE!! There is few groups which MUST have comeback in just a 2-3 months! 1. Woo!Ah! 2. Pixy 3. Cignature 4. Dreamnote 5. Nature 6. WJSN 7. Fromis_9 8. Craxy 9. Mimiirose 10. Irris 11. Alice 12. and last final comeback from Kep1er
No, this isn't considered misogyny - it just company looking to milk in on the success of idol groups but, failed to actually properly establish their groups for the long haul. This seems more like greed for money than a company who nurtures their idols to their fullest potential. Just bad business & poor commitment to push their groups through the ups and downs of the competitive and unpredictable industry.
To secure their popularity, they should've released something after queendom puzzle like H1-key, rocket punch, and purple kiss. SSQ entertainment really missed out on the queendom puzzle hype 😬
Exactly bruh and Woolim can’t even take off RoPunch’s Queendom hype either nor FNC with Cherry Bullet
Was there any hype though? It didn't feel like queendom puzzle had any impact
@@Unknown-jg4uq no all cuz of the company
@@Unknown-jg4uq There's definitely some hype. Considering Nana ranked 2nd and Wooyeon ranked 9th, it definitely would've helped them. After all, woo!ah! Is going on a positive trajectory since debut. Doing nothing after getting impressive results on queendom puzzle just made Nana and Wooyeon go to Queendom puzzle for nothing.
@@Unknown-jg4uqThe Queendom Puzzle group just dissepeared, I only remember they where in Mama and then vanished. Their song also flopped and the group name is too hard to remember.
As a WOW, I was so happy to see a video on woo!ah! but then I remembered why they needed it. It pisses me off that they're yet another great gg that built up a company only to get dumped once the new bg came out.
Yeah I’m actually a fan of both and wish both got equal treatment
And everyone besides Nana bruh especially Lucy
whos their co bg?
@@pageves their brother group? Oh they’re called DXMON (Demon) and they have 6 members
@@pageves they debuted in January but had a pre release called Burn up
I still don't get what the hell happened. They were literally growing in sales every comeback, it just doesn't make any sense that they were shelved.
Part of it is debuting DXMON but I hope the boys don’t get the blame and just blame the company
"If you are unable to promote two groups, do not debut two groups" - THIS!! Its such an obvious statement, however so many companies fail to realize this or just don't care about their limitations and choose to spread themselves way too thin at the detriment of their artists!!!
whats with kpop agencies and k survival shows using girl groups as a sort of testing the waters... its so weird
oop just got to the part where u said this..
companies debuting girl groups to earn some money and experience, then debuting a boy group and immediately dropping the girl group feels so commonplace. it's so frustrating to see girl groups getting shoved aside by their companies so often
edit, lol i got to the end and realized the vid said the same thing i did just much more eloquently
You forgot to mention that Wooyeon had a big role in the popular kdrama revenge of others, there was also a clip in the series where all the members preformed their song "Catch the stars"
Yesss I also found wooah through revenge of others
To note they were also nominated for MAMA awards’s Best New Female Artist and a few other awards in 2020 but did not win any of them (yes they had such a poor budget yet for their debut mv yet still got nominated due to the amount of promo the group had)
I have been a casual listener of Woo!ah and when I noticed that they started to lack activities I knew this was going to be another unfortunate case like Hot Issue, Nature, Lunarsolar, Mimirose
Exactly and so many other groups
Nature unofficially disbanded sadly and ofc Hot Issue disbanded and so did LunarSolar. Mimirose’s hiatus situation is different as their CEO saved them from a scamming situation
the weird thing about mimiirose is, that they released a very good comeback just to leave the company shortly after. From what I heard there was a fraud towards the CEO but that's all. Did they shut the company down or what happened?
@@TomsMusicCorner oh their company shut down?! Well I hope they can get a new one
@@TomsMusicCorner unless they wind up disbanding ofc
Nana is and was so popular on Queendom Puzzle and Elz7up so I really don't understand why there's no regular comebacks for them last year and this year. I smell misogyny
Came back here after a while. Luckily it seems like their really long hiatus was mainly because the entertainment was switching buildings and I think also rebranding itself as well as wooah. They had their release Blush 2 months ago which was only made bcz fans were complaining abt wooah having no comeback, and is having another comeback soon 🤗
also rollercoaster was when they had significantly less promotion during comeback. i remember loving the song and being surprised by them only doing a few stages like their previous comebacks
there's also an issue of the members posting tiktok videos just for the company to delete it afterwards. it happened too many times and its really odd because tiktok videos would help with their social media prescene while they are on hiatus
As someone who was a big fan of woo!ah! in 2020, and has been a casual listener ever since, it's really frustrating to see the company just cast aside these girls, ESPECIALLY AFTER hearing how the ceo literally begged their parents to let them join the company. THEIR MOST RECENT COMEBACK WAS SO GOOD THOUGH (stream BLUSH), but with the lack of promotions and media presence because of DXMON, it might not get the popularity it truly deserves. I just hope this doesn't hurt their upward streak because the girls are so so so unique and special to this industry.
ALSO, I kind of wish that all the members were given EQUAL promotions outside of the group (like not just nana and wooyeon BUT I LOVE THEIR PROMOTIONS LIKE THEIR ACTING IS CHEFS KISS). Like put the girls on more acting jobs (all of them 100% have the visuals for it and Minseo, Lucy and Sora's stage presence proves they can act well), VARIETY SHOWS PLEASE, and like release more tiktoks and vlogs cuz they can all dance in this really captivating way yk ??
Can you guys please talk about Playback and their dissapearance from the industry or perhaps Tri_be, the group that is known but still not hitting it big despite all their efforts.
My post mentioned, good to see, yeah lack of content already sucks, deleting small content we get is worse
Yeah and they use Nana to milk with bruh
@@gwenmloveskpopandmore I don't mind the Nana milking, it helps, I just wish other members had a bit more, mainly Sora and Lucy
@@angelcwooah6481 yeah me neither but I wish they’d realize she’s not the only member in the group
@@angelcwooah6481 yeah but like there’s lots of people who know her but not her group bruh
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore I wouldn't blame NV/SSQ for that, I do wish they did more for others, but can't control who people like, and many fans and non fans like Nana a lot, so only natural to push the one that is bound to get a lot more attention
the video was amazing as always, but it's very frustrating and sad that woo!ah! is going through this type of situation when the group has a lot of potential to grow, and for their company to do this kind of thing is a very senseless decision..
they deserved more popularity!!!
i don't stan them but i listened to their songs
especially no new content or songs makes me miss then 😔
you meant dont
*listen
I have been a WOW since their debut. These girls are nothing but pure happiness for me. I enjoy watching every music video and blogs and all that comes with them. Every time something comes out for preorder, I buy it. I have falling for the group and the fandom as well. I always feel so welcome when speaking to fellow WOW. ❤ Everyday I hope and pray that these girls get another comeback soon. I am ready to be blown away the music. They have so much to offer and it’s something that many people should check out.
They had a comeback guys!! Blush out now on all streaming platforms 💗 Also they have a new logo and the company renamed them to wooah without the exclaims to make it easier for people to search for them so it seems like they're going to start promoting the girls now finallyy
I'm so glad you talked about Woo!Ah!💛 They're such talented girls with great music and choreography, but they are constantly being mistreated and sexualised by their agency ): I think talking about the sexual choreography for "bing bing" that the girls had to dance to while they were still minors would've been an important addition to the video, but alas.
Edit: another thing that's worth mentioning is how at the start of their career, the company used to sub *all* of Woo!Ah!'s content, but now it doesn't sub anything at all (besides like one random video every half a year)
another case of a company focusing more on a boy group instead. wooah's numbers were growing despite their inconsistent sound, they got put on hiatus for over a year and while it was announced that they will have a comeback mid-year, elz7up is having a confirmed cb in may so its likely that they won't have a release until summer at the earliest. a shame since rollercoaster was a great kpop song
YESS! woo!ah! needs to be talked about more, love ur videos btw 🫶🏻
They're having their comeback in April.
Yes!! We are in full comeback mode!!! 🎉🎉🎉 Listen Blush, is so good!!!
Ahhh I’m so late!! I just came back from Jihoon Carat’s new vid about Busters (pls support them as their situation is horrible). Thank u so much for doing a vid on Woo!Ah! And I’m also a fan of their new brother group and I hope fellow Wows don’t blame the boys for their hiatus. I hope these girls get a new comeback soon and they deserve so much better.
What about Busters? They've always been a weird group but I haven't been keeping up. Isn't one of the former members in TripleS or some survival show?
@@moongirl8807 yes Chaeyeon is in TripleS and Yeseo debuted in Kep1er but their contract is about to end
@@moongirl8807 the current lineup is going through lots of different abuse
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore oh so u remembered correctly...interesting how some idols come from these nugu nugu groups
@@moongirl8807 yeah
they just came back with blush, please stream ❤
I got to know woo!ah! after watching Nana dancing in Mnet's kpop dance relay videos. Her dance moves is top tier!
Thank you very much for this video ❤ It's really frustrating to see the girls hard work being thrown away by the company. I hope the group's situation changes in the future. they deserve more! #WooAhDeservesBetter
They are so underrated they are one of my favourite groups all their songs are great
Theyve had such a natural and consistent growth as a group and I just wish there company kept giving them music
woo!ah! situation is so frustrating because they were doing exceptionally well for a small company compared to where they started. their sales were growing a fair amount each comeback. i know nana has been busy with other schedules but there i can't believe their company gave them three comebacks in 2022 only to shelve them after that. i really hope they get to release something soon and this hiatus hasn't impacted their momentum.
I think it's because newer girl groups are getting more popularity and woo!ah couldn't catch up now to the new girl groups and their agency stopped promoting them at the moment. They only comeback once a year which is kinda sad, they deserve to have good treatment.
But I still support them, one of my favorite underrated K-pop girl groups. Hoping this wouldn't lead to disbandment.
Hate how no one talks about them anymore
these girls had a bright future! i swear nana is literally everywhere yet the company can't promote them properly, like i know some of their songs were semi-viral so please give us a comeback!! (though i think part of the reason why they haven't had a comeback was because of the new bg, i think the company is really just using the boys as a quick cash grab opportunity)
i love so much :( ive been with them since debut and will be with them forever!
Plz do elris / alice so curious to know why they are disbanding 😭😭😭😭
catch the star
is one of my all time favorite kpop song
wooah deserve better… especially minseo , sora + lucy! even the fandom ignores them sometimes :(
love the frequent uploads!!! i didnt know anything abt woo!ah! but i liked their song bad girl, this vid was great!!! could u perhaps make a video abt gwsns mismanagement and member miyas solo comeback that was just released? thank you!
MIYA HAD A SOLO COMEBACK!?????
@@TPNsBiggestFan yes its called MIYAO and it was written + composed by gwsns previous producers + LENA!!!!
why do companies always get money from a girl group to then dump them and debut a boy group? like a lot of companies do that, it's annoying💀
I am so pissed with companies that will always prioritize bg thinking they will be the golden ticket for the company. Woo!ah! Was growing so much each comeback jfc
Sad to see but thanks for the video
I hadn't heard of Woo-ah! before Queendom Puzzle, but now Nana is one of my favorite idols. If they had a comeback, I'd be extremely interested in it.
It's good to see someone covering if not acknowledging one of their generations, best girl group, like StayC they are just a fun group to listen to, constantly shelling out hit song after hit song but while StayC has had bigger and well-deserved success, Woo ah success while impressive has been less impacting in the charts, unfortunate because like I stated they have songs deserving of top positions in any music charts, of course not belonging to a big company doesn't help their cause ,but more importantly add to that their own company misuse of a potential talent like Woo ah and you could end up with another popular group stuck in the basement until the company decides they will no longer be promoting them or the members begin to abandon ship...Miss A, Girls Generation or Fx come to mind among many others...hopefully this will not be the case, and more so I pray that this delay will not result in the exiting of members, Woo ah's greatest strength is how they stick out as a whole group, imagine Red Velvet without any of the members could they function of course but something will definitely feel off.
'Payday' is a part of my soul~ its the mother of 'NewJeans - Cookie' ('RV - Bad Boy' is the daddy)
and 'I Dont Miss U' is sitting pretty in 2nd place~~
I think the biggest mistake with woo!ah! was putting NANA on a pedestal.
(same problem ELRIS has with putting Sohee on a pedestal.)
if a company doesn't raise all its members equally.. they're doomed to fail.
and the irony is that LUCY is the prettiest in woo!ah! but guys dont like tomboys..
and Yukyung is the prettiest in woo!ah! but Sohee has the fan(p)cam bootee
it’s sad too that lucy is treated bad because she’s set up as the tomboy member but she has said herself how feminine she is and she likes to feel more pretty than “handsome”
@@ry_katherine OMG I STARTED CRYING READING THIS! MY BABY LUCY!
and I also realized I need to buy a stuffed animal to hug for moments like these or else my heart gonna burst..
They are my fav nugu gg. I really do hope they comeback soon and be promoting as much as possible.
Lucy is my bias, and I am sad to hear that she is pushed out of their social media. I have no idea who the boy group is, girl groups are all I am interested in. I love Woo!Ah! but I worry about encouraging a K-pop industry that takes advantage of women. I hope they are being treated well at least personally if not professionally.
One of my favorite groups. It’s very disheartening to hear how badly they are being treated.
y'all are so real for calling out the misogyny in the industry!
Things like this makes me care less and less about kpop. Too many talented singers and performers forced to drop out of the game bc of foolishness
I miss them so much, they deserve so much more from their company
Will definitely be buying all the albums versions!
same video style, layout, intro (classic) just a year later!!! i love this channel dearly.
Blush is such a good and catchy song.
Yeah ngl I was wondering where they were. I absolutely love the new boy group, but we need them too!
Been their fan for a very long time, they are excellent
I'm so fricking glad you're back 😭
danke für dieses aufschlussreiche video, ihr lieben 🤟
I miss them so bad rn 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
they're back now!!
@@strawberrysolar9086 AND TRUST IVE BEEN STREAMING
They literally are super talented and the most recognized member seems super popular, but it's like, where are they?? Lol
I’m typing this while watching and i just have to ask, if you’re the CEO, what will you do actually?
With the amount of girl group, the struggle to maintain fans attention, selling albums, promotions and etc, what can you do?
You said it yourself, they’re from a small company. If there’s not much significant profits, what can we do?
But they were continously growing every comeback. Album sales ×6 in two years is really good for a nugu gg, and they were rising on the download chart between. If they kept going and possibly shuffled some finances, they could've built a (small) but stable fan base and maybe once the skills had then ability to to tour they could debut a bg.
Eu amo esse vídeo e obrigada por postá-lo, o woo!ah! tem um grande potencial que nós wows pudemos ver - e vemos - durante esses anos e esse potencial ser jogado de escanteio repentinamente é horrível para o grupo e para nós fãs. É clara a vontade das meninas de querer voltar com um comeback mas a empresa não ajuda e mesmo com # sendo feitas no Twitter o CEO da SSQ resolve só dar uma pequena notícia de retorno para abafar o caso, mas nós NÃO vamos esquecer.
Woo!ah!, nós te amamos!
#WooAhDeservesBetter
Спасибо за видео по моей любимой группе. Ждём всем фандомом камбек лучшей группы
I miss them so much :(
I hope they really do a comback this year or post more content on TH-cam so they can get new fans , because the girls it self post sm on weverse , sora posts like daily & I'm so thankful for that. I also think that Nana is a bit overpromted compared to the rest &
Happy late birthday to her !!
they’ve been milking nana like crazy, overworking her sending her on all these side quests. it gives me
major chuu vibes… all the girls have it girl qualities and they should give them all the same treatment
@@ry_katherine agreed!!
Que bien que sigan con los videos
Muchas gracias por el trabajo tan genial que hacen con ellos
Sigan así
Saludos desde México 🎉❤
sounds like Cherry Bullet's story too. I love both groups and will esp. miss Wooyeon when they disband
I'm scared that the company might think that promoting Nana and Wooyeon individually will make them more profit. why can't the company make them do both? Nana and Wooyeon can be an actress and Idol at the same time. I feel bad for the other members.
im sat.
Love their new single blush that came out after this video was released and which is the reason I’m trying to figure out who they are cause I just found out about them from “blush” it’s so cute
woo!ah! literally built up that company and they have the nerve to treat my girls like this? ouh ssq ent you will pay !!!!
your vids are always so well done!! it's always nice to see content for extremely underrated girl groups 💕
I remembered, I discovered their group on Facebook, because I have a friend who shared their debut photos. Additionally, I stanned them because their debut date is the same as my birthday 🥹 but i'm sad that they are getting mistreated and NV/SSQ should've used QP's hype and released woo!ah!'s cb. I hope they won't be another BVNDIT case.
can you make a video on PIXY? i feel like people dont know a lot about what's going on with them :( im worried
make sure to use this much energy onto their comeback in April and June!
I’ve been looking for a video like this for months. Thanks!❤
the funny thing is that wooah would generate alot more money then their bg because it is very unknown
I was wondering about them!
They gained my attention during roller coaster promotions
i feel like as much as we can’t control who people likes but how are the less popular members even going to get any traction if there’s bare minimum exposures to them
promotions also seem to have significantly dropped after the release of JOY like they didn’t even attended some broadcasting stations like how they do with their previous releases
woo!ah! Comeback with digital single 'BLUSH' pls give more love for girls.
I love Woo!Ah! sadly they aren't so much popular when they deserve to be more recognized with good songs but i know one member is now a member of El7sup, i would prefer Woo!Ah! comeback but i wish el7zup success and specially Woo!Ah! success, i'm waiting fot their comeback
IT WAS SUCH A DUMB MOVE FOR THEM TO PUT WOO!AH! behind the spotlight after Nana gaining so much fans from QP, which couldve been their headstart to gain even more fans IF they released a comeback last year, WHY DID THEY NOT GO FOR THAT MOVE INSTEAD
Ikr. I mean just look at the other groups/soloists that joined QP. They immediately made a comeback while the hype is still around except woo!ah!.
@@vivvvksks yeah, H1-KEY, PurpleKiss, Weeekly, etc
I imagine the present concern is on what terms they can legally terminate their contract with this terrible company.
I really hate the Misogynistic of K-Pop and as Flover i really know this cause fromis_9 had a same moment when Pledis debuting TWS
After fromis_9, gugudan, PRISTIN, Weeekly, EVERGLOW, Cherry Bullet and now woo!ah!, i really hate the reality that Boygroup is more valuable than Girlgroup
manifesting wicked energy on dxmon and elzzup (i know it's not their fault i hate their companies)
What did dxmon and elzzup do? Its not their fault idc if u know that already, wishing that is unfair to both groups bc theyve still all worked hard to debut. If ur gonna wish anything just wish ur “wicked energy” on the companies/they get better management or that the groups move companies instead
can you make a video about IRRIS? i miss them...
Near this time when this vid was released Woo!ah! released Blush
I missed your videos!!
I feel like SSQ only said that Woo!ah! will have a cb in the first half of 2024 to silence us :((
The group from the reality flopped so I was expecting to see more cbs of the groups, H1-Key never stopped promoting after the reality, getting the buzz of new fans, meanwhile wooah and rocket punch are laying low, like they are on hiatus
i looked up the boygroup from the same company and they arent even doing well. like im sorry, you completely ignore a group youve built up for years because you dont have enough funds to promote two groups, yet insist on debuting another one? did they expect to cash out quick since bg stans generally purchase more albums/merch? that didnt even work so where are they now, as a company
if they had kept giving woo!ah! frequent promotions, especially after elzup, their popularity could have increased to the point of finantial sustainability
idk im ranting but its bc im mad. i started following woo!ah! in late 2021/early 2022, i never expected them to just drop out from the face of the earth. and for some reason the fact that the company's little gamble with their boygroup didnt out makes me even more upset. it wasnt even worth it
EDIT: the bg may still become popular in the future, i have no idea about their skills or music so for all i know they could be super deserving of success, which is great, the company should have realized they couldnt support two groups at once tho
Exactly! DXMON's "SPARK," despite being a title track, is severely underpromoted. It hasn't even reached 1M views yet! Sales aren't bad for a rookie from a small company, the boys are doing challenges and all that stuff, but it's like SSQ is already holding them on 8TURN/LUN8 standards in terms of hype and sales...
@@mariadiallo5786exactly bruh they need to realize they don’t have money for more than one group yet
Yeah and I’m a fan of DXMON too and I think they should’ve waited to debut them
this literally happens all the time in kpop and i hate it, company debuts a gg, they become fairly popular and then they ignore them in favour of a boy group that will probably flop
@@n1ghtflight exactly and look what happened like TFN now just disbanded cuz of HOR7ION Lapillus and their other new Filipino group that’s a spinoff group of the same show Hor7ion came from (dream maker), New:ID
Yes Nana is the most popular member of the group and it’s almost like Cha Eunwoo and Park JaeChan’s group situations. They know them but not their groups.
I feel the pain about woo!ah!'s treatment, but I don't think it's misogyny. That's just your lashing out I think. The problem is that the group didn't grow fast enough to support the money being spent, I feel. Alll these group projects are expensive and rely on investors and if those investors don't see a return after a while they pull out. I doubt NV or their investors saw a penny from woo!ah! in profit. So, yeah, I think that's what happened here, which is a crying shame because woo!ah! could have been in the 60k sales range in a couple more comebacks. If only the money had stayed in place, but SSQ don't control that.
Instead, we see them being 'broken up for parts'. I wouldn't be surprised if we see a Nana solo before we see a group CB.
The salt in the would is that the investors have clearly been moved over to Dxmon, who were probably sold to investors as a new opportunity but are now struggling to match woo!ah!'s sales numbers or popularity out of the gate. It feels so futile and stupid.
This is the correct answer.
as a fan i agree. end of the day its a business and they weren’t growing enough so i can see why the company decided to debut a new group instead
Right, boy band fans are very loyal customers. There are boybands who aren't nct zb1 selling at least 100k. I think if woo!ah toured, maybe like international tours, it'd be a different story. These tours with their merchandise make up for any debt accrued while making the release. They couldn't do that because they debuted during the pandemic.
So Songyee DID leave because it was harder than she thought it would be. I kind of already figured that out from some of her posts on Instagram after she left, but she deleted those. Personally I can't see what she meant about "not deserving" since she was already IN the group, but hey, unlike with some groups, she was at least given the choice. Also it's kind of creepy how the CEO begged for the number of a high school student.
Can you do one for CLASS:y? They deserve better
We are full in comeback mode!!! Go to look for Woo! Ah! Blush. You will love it! In may we are expecting a new album. 🤩😍🤩
as much as i got the frustration i still don't understand why fandoms keep pushing these stupid mass email things as if they don't go straight to spam like girl have those ever worked? nope and they never will especially since they're coming from international fans. i promise you you're doing absolutely nothing with the mass email nonsense😭😂😂😂
I understand your point on a larger scale, but in this case, mass emailing absolutely has worked, and every email has been read. The business inquiry email was a dead end, but their marketing team staff email invoked immediate responses to a number of things. The SSQ website identified DXMON as their 1st Artist for a few weeks, and emails to them got it fixed literally within hours. Weeks later, WOWs mass emailed regarding woo!ah!'s TikToks never being uploaded to TH-cam Shorts throughout their career despite DXMON's being uploaded-- the very next upload, this was fixed.
It actually helps, a lot.
I like the content for woo!ah but I feel like a lot of this video is misguided.
DXMON is being promoted like woo!ah was promoted back when they debuted, with the vlogs and traveling to other countries. Except that woo!ah went to Vietnam while DXMON went to America and Japan. The only difference I can see is the DXMON just has a bigger budget for stuff that woo!ah at those different times (because one was at the companies beginning while the other was after they had woo!ah set up).
I also don't understand the hatred of DXMON getting more content, because it's clear they're trying to establish a new group. New groups need to go all out for their debuts to establish themselves in the industry, especially if they aren't big 4. That's what woo!ah did their first few releases.
It also wasn't mentioned that NV/SSQ had just recently moved buildings, and with the name rebrand. It could be assumed that there may have been a restructuring in the company which may explain why the comeback message was messy or other stuff. As well as it being a small company so they only have the resources to focus on one group at a time.
For the issue of deleting content, I remember hearing from a youtuber kaylasays (I forget which video), that she also deletes videos if they get low views. She explained that if you have videos with low views, the algorithm stops promoting you. So to stay in the algorithm you need to keep promoting videos with lots of views... this could be why the company deletes some videos. To keep them in the algorithm... although this is just my educated guess, and I really don't know why. Also, I remember a few months back that they were hiring a videographer. Aka someone to record and make content for them. I don't know how long it affected but some of the lack of content is explained by the fact that they just literally had no one to record that content.
I feel like saying its misogyny this early into their career is a bit gross, because we don't know if they actually being shelved for a boy group or if it's just the company can only handle one group at a time (you can only grow so much with one group which is probably why they debuted a second group, so they can grow and promote multiple groups at the same time). Throwing around such an accusation this early without solid evidence feels very gross, I personally would've waited a few months to see these accusations are confirmed. As just yesterday all of the members released a choreographed dance to their youtube shorts, meaning that they're back in the studio dancing and practicing. For what... most likely their upcoming comeback.
However, I do agree that SSQ/NV should push other members. I feel like they should've sent Lucy to Queendom Puzzle as well because she could've slayed. This is like the one thing I agree with in the video and the thing that makes me angry. All of this is obviously just my educated guess/opinion, but I really do think this video jumped the gun... I'm waiting for about a month about DXMON's schedule ending to see if woo!ah makes any news about a comeback. Cause if not, I'm gonna start making some noise because there'd literally be no excuse (their other groups promotions have ended, and they said they were working on that comeback since back in January/early February). But right now, I feel like a lot of the hate is unprecedented... but I understand it getting to a breaking point.
View count would be the logical explanation, but it is not the reason behind SSQ deleting woo!ah!'s videos. They do it arbitrarily, usually in mass, and as far as we can tell there is no discernable reason. Higher performing videos have been deleted, higher performing videos using their own audio deleted, lower performing videos were kept up during deletion sprees, etc. Videos have been deleted hours after being posted, then reuploaded days later (with no changes), then deleted again a week later. It's very difficult to figure out.
It's harder to track, but they also delete random stuff from other social media platforms. On Instagram they uploaded 9 images to make a 3x3 grid for Pit-a-Pat concept images, and at some point they just deleted one of the images w/ Wooyeon's face. They've (twice) uploaded pictures of Nana and Wooyeon recently and deleted them hours/minutes after uploading.
TikTok's algorithm actually punishes you for deleting or privating lower view videos, as well. You could attest it to their SNS manager just not knowing about that but that lower view count pattern doesn't exist, so it's not that. Members have also been recording their own content that SSQ just won't upload-- Lucy and Minseo have uploaded multiple TikTok challenges to Weverse. If they're already recording it themselves, I don't see the harm in the company uploading it to their official channels in times where staff may be busy with DXMON. It does FAR more damage to leave them without content for weeks at a time than it does uploading a few phone-recorded dance challenges.
SSQ/NV's staff remained the same throughout the move. The company building was sold at a loss in September and they were moved in to their new building around 4 months later. I think it's likely the relocation was to have separate practice rooms, and the rebrand was for a fresh start. The only significant staff shakeup occurred very early on in NV's life, when the co-founder Han Ji-seok left.
I do believe the company doesn't have the staff to promote two groups at the *same time*, definitely. Job application sites cite them at having only 17 employees, and DXMON has been spotted with the same staff members that accompany woo!ah! to events. However, DXMON's budget is quite literally insane for SSQ. Two music videos shot in LA, 23 music show stages, a 4-track mini album, and nearly 40 collaborations with other groups/idols on TikTok (the number exceeds woo!ah!'s total amount of collaborations across their career, and the total amount of challenge uploads for their last 3 comebacks combined). I can't be convinced that DXMON's debut would've suffered or not been still larger than any of woo!ah!'s if woo!ah! had been given budget for a small comeback after Queendom Puzzle in August. DXMON easily could've debuted with a 2-track Single Album, similar to woo!ah!'s debut, and still gotten the level of promotion they got. It wasn't necessary to have woo!ah! drop off the face of planet Earth.
I appreciate your thoughts and don't intend for this to be hostile. Just want to offer viewpoints from the other side. 🙂
By the way, I would not anticipate comeback news for woo!ah! anytime soon. Recording for the album has been completed, and shooting would've likely been beginning about right now. SSQ takes about 2 months to edit their MVs, so it would've been a May comeback. Unfortunately, EL7Z UP announced their comeback will take place in May, likely accompanied by their world tour. It seemed to take members by surprise and is what prompted Sora to hint at the delay on Fromm and Weverse (and Nana later). The company has still yet to retract their announcement of a comeback in the first half of 2023 in spite of Wows mass emailing for answers, though. I'm very nervous to see how the company will handle it, since by the time EL7Z UP is done promoting, I could very easily see them opting to have DXMON comeback instead. I'm expecting the worst.
@@Antmagic2I have no clue on why they delete content… that was just my guess.
The budget argument though, I remember watching a reaction video and an interesting point came up in one of them (again I forget which), but in a reaction for Spark. They said it looked like they didn’t rent out the street… as in they’re just recording a video on the street like the rest of us. It makes me think that a lot of the places they went to are just public spots, and a majority of it went to the cgi which would definitely cut the budget down a bit. Also… for the length of the mini album. Isn’t one of the members a/learning producing? That would definitely save budget because one of the members is working on it, sorta like (G)-Idle. I’m just asking, I forget if this is true or not.
I also don’t really care about collabs on tiktok cause that doesn’t really have to do with budget unless if they pay to be in each others videos… then wtf. But I do think woo!ah has had more collabs overall
But overall yeah, El7z Up has royally screwed up the schedule… because I think a comeback was planned for after the DXMON debut originally. But now with the El7z Up content. It’s throwing everyone for a loop so honestly, I blame Mnet. Personally, I hope they at least release a pre-release like Burn Up to hold over fans.
But I feel like calling it misogynistic this early is not ok, because we just don’t know enough info rn. It’s just speculation atm based off of what we do know… I hope we know more as DXMON scheduling comes to an end
@@randomkid4783 I do know the members are instrumentally trained-- not fully sure if they're training to be producers/writers as well, but I've heard so. They however didn't have any part in the production of the mini album. The mini album was produced by collapsedone (woo!ah!'s usual producer) and a newer producer named Kass for the other 3 songs.
I would imagine they most definitely pay the other groups to be part of their videos. It's a lot of exposure collabing with groups like (G)I-DLE, I can't imagine there isn't a price tag on that. If they didn't, we would've seen more collabs from when Nana was MC of Show Champion. DXMON definitely have more collabs than woo!ah!-- it's been a minute since I checked, but I believe woo!ah!'s total count is less than 30 through their career.
@@Antmagic2 I feel like there's a lot more, cause they've has lots of collabs with the same people... either I'm just being too optimistic but I just assume the tiktok trends are less so paid and more so management just being like.... wanna do each other's trend for exposure.
I'm happy to see collapsedone working with SSQ/NV more. They're really good and it just means that woo!ah when they comeback will most likely be collapsedone. Although I will be honest... Rollercoaster wasn't my fav
Gen Z? oh i was though that we had 4th gen...lol But yes....sadly something bad is going on with Woo!Ah! one little plus....Woo!ah! instagram it's still pretty active;P SO WE MUST KEEP HOPE!! There is few groups which MUST have comeback in just a 2-3 months!
1. Woo!Ah!
2. Pixy
3. Cignature
4. Dreamnote
5. Nature
6. WJSN
7. Fromis_9
8. Craxy
9. Mimiirose
10. Irris
11. Alice
12. and last final comeback from Kep1er
No, this isn't considered misogyny - it just company looking to milk in on the success of idol groups but, failed to actually properly establish their groups for the long haul. This seems more like greed for money than a company who nurtures their idols to their fullest potential.
Just bad business & poor commitment to push their groups through the ups and downs of the competitive and unpredictable industry.
it’s misogyny when the ceo has sexist ideology that the boy group would do better than the girls
@@ry_katherineit makes sense for a company to debut a new group with potential over a group that has been struggling and not had major growth
@@yohanedescends4683 they have had major growth tho