This is the best account I've seen yet. The passenger stayed very calm. This is unreal!! If I had watched the plane land and not known that someone with no flight experience landed it I would have said it was a very near perfect landing!! I'd like to hear more audio as the plane actually landed.....
Fantastic! I have no experience in the field of aviation and it is certain that I would not have kept my calm so much, between two "mayday" I would have made a small crisis of tears, of nerves, tried to shake the poor pilot and then listened to the ATC. I would have listened if the plane had not crashed before...in short, bravo for this passenger!
I have multiple thoughts but here will restrict to just a couple for the sake of brevity. First -- it appears that when the pilot first became unconscious (?), the airplane made a diving right turn from which the passenger recovered on his own before ever calling ATC. Great job by the passenger in doing so, and if that's what happened I almost can't believe he sounded as calm as he did when he called. That diving turn would also be the probable explanation for the request about the nav screen being blank, but I can't be sure. Second -- In my opinion, the first controller got very lucky that the autopilot was off when he told the passenger to push on the controls and begin the descent. If the autopilot had been on, it likely would have "fought" the push on the controls and the result could have been fatal. I'm thrilled beyond belief that everything turned out okay, but for a controller to tell someone how to manipulate the controls without knowing the autopilot status is very dangerous. Full disclosure -- I am a controller and a flight instructor myself. (My comments reflect my personal opinions and do NOT represent official FAA policy. I am speaking in a private capacity here).
you're right. i agree 100%. valid point. the controller telling him to just push without ascertaining his skill level, AP state, aircraft state, etc etc etc was so reckless and out of line and unnecessary. wut if the pax put the plane in a big dive he couldnt pull out of? first measure should have been to stabilize the a/c, not ask him to descend and then maintain specific altitudes the whole way while having him input diff frequencies etc............
I suspect most ATC are not actually pilots themselves. So instead of leaving as criticizing the Controller, perhaps there should be some discussion on what training is given to all ATC about their giving advice in this situation should they ever get this call. Are they told nit to give any advice until a skilled piloting individual arrives to the tower?
Another thing to note is that the controller requested the pilot to change the radio frequency... This could've resulted in a complete loss of comms, which is definitely a less-than-ideal situation.
@@KuostA I think it mostly comes down to lack of experience in similar situations and lack of experience as a pilot. It could've gone very bad if the pilot had lost comms or fucked around with the autopilot, but thankfully it didn't happen. Hope they incorporate more ATC training for similar emergencies
Atc handled it perfectly. The moment atc realized pilot was unable to provide ident or switch frequencies he dropped the suvjrct ina heartbeat. Then continued aiding
Sounds like he either played flight simulator, watched channels such as this or listened to ATC on a scanner. Clearly knew some terminology but that's about it. Very well done.
@@theanonymouscat5062 agreed, its possible he was unfamiliar with the type aircraft and avionics, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he had previous experience in the right seat as a ‘co-passenger’ so to speak
He asked him if he was able to change frequencies. Probably should have slowed down and made sure he knew how to input the frequency and have the backup freq ready in case it didn't work. But this is an extremely rare situation there are no procedures for and it is very easy to Monday morning quarterback the situation. What if the plane had gone out of range of the tower's radio?
@@kineticgames293 he should never have introduced the subject of changing the frequency. He possibly should not have introduced the idea of changing the transponder code as well because that could have resulted in the radio being changed by accident. ATC has procedures to do a non-radio identification through a series of turns. Since the guy was able to maneuver the aircraft...
Why would the controller think he knew how to change frequency's or new about what the transponder was. Especially when he said he didn't know how to fly.
I fly a Cessna 172 and a Beechcraft Baron in an XPlane11 simulator and I'm not a real world pilot, but like to think I could do the same if needed. The passenger did a great job in getting a difficult to fly plane a Cessna 208 Caravan and landing it. He stayed calm under pressure!
Keep in mind as he did that the aircraft was also likely excessively over speeding. One wrong move and the airframe would have been bent or even destroyed.
Yes, please provide further transcription of the conversation--everything else I hear is so heavily edited it's impossible to follow each step. Sound bytes don't allow the events to unfold in order to fully grasp the astonishing feat accomplished by this young guy.
Imagine the adrenaline going though this person! (I got here because of a more sugarcoated news video from NOS Jeugdjournaal.) Much respect for both the passenger and the tower personnel. Glad they managed to land the plane safely.
Kudos to the guy for sure, but I thought the same thing....the way he is relaying some of the info, he definitely seems to have some aircraft knowledge/experience? Impressive nonetheless...
@@rc24caldwell19 maybe he had sat up front before and remembered basics he had seen - a bit like when you first drive a car you have seen what your parents did when driving.
@@SimbaC2007 Some experience with a radio, but not much else I think. I found it odd he knew how to identify himself to ATC with the tail number and altitude, but maybe he was paying attention to that from previous radio calls.
@@spaight711 Well, you and I know that. Does J. Random Painter? It just looks like a label on the dash for *something* to most people. Most people are going to pick up the headset and say "Um? Hello? Is there anyone there?"
@@gromm93 Most likely, but he sure ain't no nut cracker, what I mean by that is a dummy which most likely saved their lives that day. I do wonder if he had intro lessons or if that was an "intro/flight" lesson.
haters in the comment about this dude not having any flying experience. He has common sense and not a total idiot, if anything better than most student pilots with 20+ hours. He probably knows about transponder codes, but he clearly didnt know the "ident" function and or how to even change the squawk which you cant expect someone with no training to ever figure that out. Kept his calm and prevented the crash, which most people would choke under pressure.
I fly r/c planes and helicopters. I'd give it a try. Wouldn't have much to lose. I like my chances against someone who's never flown anything. Glad he got down safely and I hope the pilot is ok
I've watched several of these types of videos and I've noticed a pattern in a few of them...specifically the ones that involve non-pilots. Why do the ground guys (tower, ATC, whomever) seem to insist on speaking pilot-speak, and why do they ask the non-pilot to change frequencies? And no, I'm not asking why those protocols exist. I'm asking why the grounders speak a language that non-pilots probably won't understand (what is an Ident? what is a squawk? what is a transponder?) and why on earth would you want the passenger to mess with the communications controls and so risk a loss of those communications because the passenger has no idea what he/she is doing?
He probably watched his friend fly many times and asked questions . . how did he know to put down the landing gear never heard the operator tell him that, he knew ....
I call BS no experience.....he had some simulator time or been around planes heck of a lot then someone with no experience. He knew how to do to much up there for NO EXPERIENCE
@@WanHaz88 It means that you understand what the other person said. It's a holdover from when using a radio was considered serious business. People even still say that on Citizen's Band (CB) radio. 10-4 is the only 10 Code still in use by civilians. Police use numerical codes all the time.
I've read all of the comments and would like to add that it sounds like this guy is possibly well-off enough to have chartered flights to tropical places on some basis, regular or not. Might one not become very familiar thereby, from hearing the pilot in an intimate environment? Geez, I'm not a male, but you people really are brutal to each other. I'm just sayin'.
@@k.pacificnw02134 I accidentally said it on the radio as a cab driver, even though company policy was to say "check" when ending radio transmissions. I was still used to saying it as a delivery driver.
@@Ash-cy7yw I've never ever flown a plane but have been watching quite a lot of GA TH-cam videos and listened to many ATC recordings. So I can confidently say that I do understand some of the lingo, and assuming the lad in the video has also been watching videos (and possibly even paying attention to the pilot's inputs from the passenger seat) it is absolutely normal that he has a very general knowledge of what is what/where.
I'm a civilian. I've been watching aviation videos like VasAviation and H89SP channels for years. Mentour Pilot would show the instrument panel when doing his breakdowns. I may be familiar with some aviation terminology but that doesn't mean I can fly a plane.... Squawk, ailerons, stick shaker, the LOT plane crashed because it had 13 ball bearings instead of the manufacturer's 26 bearings in the turbine... glider plane incident - I learned about RAT, etc...
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Landing a plane when you barely know how to change frequency and operate a transponder is pretty impressive! Great work by everyone involved👍🏽
I find it interesting that he knew not only where the vertical speed indicator was but how to read it.
Flight sim?
Pretty clear he had some experience
Unbelievable
@@damonbradshaw5569 he had Hof directions to get it down
Hope the pilot is okay🙏🏼
Kudos to the passenger and ATC guiding him! 👏🏼
He is okay 👍
O think I would ask for 2 pilots now 🤔
This is the best account I've seen yet. The passenger stayed very calm. This is unreal!! If I had watched the plane land and not known that someone with no flight experience landed it I would have said it was a very near perfect landing!! I'd like to hear more audio as the plane actually landed.....
That passenger has balls of steel, he was very calm through it all
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Great job by the passenger and the person guiding him.
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Fantastic! I have no experience in the field of aviation and it is certain that I would not have kept my calm so much, between two "mayday" I would have made a small crisis of tears, of nerves, tried to shake the poor pilot and then listened to the ATC. I would have listened if the plane had not crashed before...in short, bravo for this passenger!
Absolutely incredible! Kudos to everyone who helped make this a safe landing! Hope the pilot is doing ok now.
👍 Glad they did it safely.
Thanks for doing this video. It's hard to cut through all the other fluff from the media to get the real story.
I have multiple thoughts but here will restrict to just a couple for the sake of brevity.
First -- it appears that when the pilot first became unconscious (?), the airplane made a diving right turn from which the passenger recovered on his own before ever calling ATC. Great job by the passenger in doing so, and if that's what happened I almost can't believe he sounded as calm as he did when he called. That diving turn would also be the probable explanation for the request about the nav screen being blank, but I can't be sure.
Second -- In my opinion, the first controller got very lucky that the autopilot was off when he told the passenger to push on the controls and begin the descent. If the autopilot had been on, it likely would have "fought" the push on the controls and the result could have been fatal. I'm thrilled beyond belief that everything turned out okay, but for a controller to tell someone how to manipulate the controls without knowing the autopilot status is very dangerous.
Full disclosure -- I am a controller and a flight instructor myself. (My comments reflect my personal opinions and do NOT represent official FAA policy. I am speaking in a private capacity here).
you're right. i agree 100%. valid point. the controller telling him to just push without ascertaining his skill level, AP state, aircraft state, etc etc etc was so reckless and out of line and unnecessary. wut if the pax put the plane in a big dive he couldnt pull out of? first measure should have been to stabilize the a/c, not ask him to descend and then maintain specific altitudes the whole way while having him input diff frequencies etc............
I suspect most ATC are not actually pilots themselves. So instead of leaving as criticizing the Controller, perhaps there should be some discussion on what training is given to all ATC about their giving advice in this situation should they ever get this call. Are they told nit to give any advice until a skilled piloting individual arrives to the tower?
Another thing to note is that the controller requested the pilot to change the radio frequency... This could've resulted in a complete loss of comms, which is definitely a less-than-ideal situation.
@@surrealtom ikr. controller is not very intelligent, based off his active decision making alone
@@KuostA I think it mostly comes down to lack of experience in similar situations and lack of experience as a pilot. It could've gone very bad if the pilot had lost comms or fucked around with the autopilot, but thankfully it didn't happen. Hope they incorporate more ATC training for similar emergencies
Without any flight experience realy h's hero 🙏
good job 👏
Perfect job 👍
The passenger couldn't find the transponder or IDENT, and the controller tries the get him to change frequencies. Really?
Atc handled it perfectly. The moment atc realized pilot was unable to provide ident or switch frequencies he dropped the suvjrct ina heartbeat. Then continued aiding
The 'passenger turned pilot' has a lot of Xplane-ing to do!
Sounds like he either played flight simulator, watched channels such as this or listened to ATC on a scanner. Clearly knew some terminology but that's about it. Very well done.
Probably a public servant with radio experience, didn’t seem to know the terminology imo hahaha
@@stephaniecoomey2356 He used the term squawk. The atc used it just before, but not sure you'd use a term you are unfamiliar with.
@@jort93z lol........
I agree I refuse to believe this guy didn’t have some sort of knowledge or previous flight experience.
@@theanonymouscat5062 agreed, its possible he was unfamiliar with the type aircraft and avionics, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he had previous experience in the right seat as a ‘co-passenger’ so to speak
control learned a new word as well; Incoherent. But what an awesome job, both from control as well.
Great job man. Hope the pilot is ok.
Bravo, Bravo ! This man is a hero, he saved two lives on board. And big shut out to the controller. Well done, CONGRATULATIONS.
3:28 Terrible idea to tell someone like this to change the frequency on the radio. Terrible.
Yeah I agree there. That's the only thing I was a little concerned and confused about during instructions
they could have lost all comms with him doing that
@@imbowser they could have lost them by not changing...
He asked him if he was able to change frequencies. Probably should have slowed down and made sure he knew how to input the frequency and have the backup freq ready in case it didn't work. But this is an extremely rare situation there are no procedures for and it is very easy to Monday morning quarterback the situation. What if the plane had gone out of range of the tower's radio?
@@kineticgames293 he should never have introduced the subject of changing the frequency. He possibly should not have introduced the idea of changing the transponder code as well because that could have resulted in the radio being changed by accident. ATC has procedures to do a non-radio identification through a series of turns. Since the guy was able to maneuver the aircraft...
Excellent video and outcome. Thx for posting
Thank you for watching 👍😊
Kudos to that passenger hope the pilot is ok
Why would the controller think he knew how to change frequency's or new about what the transponder was. Especially when he said he didn't know how to fly.
because he had managed to make contact with ATC they assumed he some abilities no matter how small.
I fly a Cessna 172 and a Beechcraft Baron in an XPlane11 simulator and I'm not a real world pilot, but like to think I could do the same if needed. The passenger did a great job in getting a difficult to fly plane a Cessna 208 Caravan and landing it. He stayed calm under pressure!
Damn the guy has no experience and they're giving him a number to call? Sheesh!
lol!
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That was unbelievable!! Major, major kudos to all involved -- especially the person landing the plane!! Absolutely incredible!!! 👍✈✈👍
Keeping a cool head in this sort of situation is such an asset.
Saw this on another channel, awesome job, everyone!
VNE of a Caravan is 175, it got up to 300 in the dive, these guys got very lucky. Nothing short of a miracle they got on the ground safely.
It wasn’t their time yet. Excellent work by atc.
That is a great advertisement for that airplane lol
As I pilot i'm honestly surprised by how much the passenger knew in regards to the transponder and such
Yes, I was surprised as well.
@@YouCanSeeATC apparently, he'd spent a lot of time flying in small planes. But knowing how to operate that transponder definitely saved the aircraft.
He got the plane out of a death spiral. Impressive.
Keep in mind as he did that the aircraft was also likely excessively over speeding. One wrong move and the airframe would have been bent or even destroyed.
I would have hit the ocean in minutes by that time I w9uld have had a heart attack
The pilot was in hospital and he survived the very serious diagnosis, the odds were very low
The moment he successfully contacted the tower must've been one of pure elation.
His comment "I'm on the ground, what do you want me to do now?".
serious kudos to the passenger keeping his cool and being able to follow the basics Aviate Navigate Communicate well done!
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Yes, please provide further transcription of the conversation--everything else I hear is so heavily edited it's impossible to follow each step. Sound bytes don't allow the events to unfold in order to fully grasp the astonishing feat accomplished by this young guy.
He was very calm and composed, he possibly was a frequent flier and famiar with the cockpit
Sounds like a trucker turned pilot 10 4 good buddy
I came here to learn and be prepared for a situation like this.
Guy is ready for flight training. That was a very scary situation in a high performance complex bird.
At the beginning I think he said the instruments went out when they rolled. I'm assuming they did a barrel roll?
dropped 4000 feet in a tight roll..... jesus
Just amazing! I can't imagine how I would be feeling trying to do this, I think I would have a hard time trying not to freak out!
The Tower in Palm Beach used a tuneable Radio to contact the plane again on Fort Pierce frequency since Fort Pierce was out of range
Plot twist the passenger has hundreds of hours playing Flight Simulator
This guy said "passing 8600" way too I've done this before
I got Goosebumps listen to that!
4:05, did my boy says 10-4 like a police radio 😂
10-4! ...uh I mean Roger.
Thank you for your video from PBI atc
Sorry, King Air guy, you've been bested.
Nice work but this guy was not a total novice ...
Maybe some flight simulator time
Nice work ‘but’? You have to ask yourself why you had to add ‘but’ to your backhand complement.
I have given the controls to novices and most would be inverted in 30 seconds.
@@louisegaff1 Lol my comment was more directed at the title of the video, not the guy...
@@louisegaff1 stop being so sensitive. he raised a valid point. it wasnt backhanded. smh
I hope he is credited as PIC in his logbook if he continues to fly.
Great job. Hopefully this gives him motivation to get his private license.
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Most people would have lost the wits with the spiral tbh. Amazing what we do when we have to! Great job everyone!
Imagine the adrenaline going though this person! (I got here because of a more sugarcoated news video from NOS Jeugdjournaal.)
Much respect for both the passenger and the tower personnel. Glad they managed to land the plane safely.
ATC: "Do you know how to fly an airplane at all?"
Passenger: "no"
ATC: *Diarrhea intensifies*
Great stuff! Do you have the part where the ATC talked them into the landing?
No, unfortunately, I don't have it.
It was done over cell phone so we'll never hear it unfortunately.
Again, didn't include the ATC talking them down. That's what I want to hear.
It happened on a cell phone. You'll probably never hear it.
not a cell phone, but an old emergency radio
He has flown before. He has flying experience.
what a guy
Talk about a cool headed guy!
Something feels like a set up. Cell phone? Giving instructions about flying.
This is not just a passenger. He definitely have some aviation background.
Kudos to the guy for sure, but I thought the same thing....the way he is relaying some of the info, he definitely seems to have some aircraft knowledge/experience? Impressive nonetheless...
He's an interior designer. Google it
@@nihlify I don't have to google it....you just told us! Thanks!
@@rc24caldwell19 maybe he had sat up front before and remembered basics he had seen - a bit like when you first drive a car you have seen what your parents did when driving.
@@nihlify i believe he went to school for it years ago and dropped out, so he studied a bit on books.
I'd like to hear the missing audio, where the flight instructor talked him down.
Me too, that part was probably over the phone.
Awesome ❤
Amazing. 🙌🏽
Hope this was not a fake emergency. This guy sure sounds like someone with pilot training.
Sounds like military or cop he says 10-4 , not pilot really
@@SimbaC2007 Some experience with a radio, but not much else I think. I found it odd he knew how to identify himself to ATC with the tail number and altitude, but maybe he was paying attention to that from previous radio calls.
@@gromm93 Tail number is usually written on a tag or label on the instrument panel.
@@spaight711 Well, you and I know that.
Does J. Random Painter?
It just looks like a label on the dash for *something* to most people. Most people are going to pick up the headset and say "Um? Hello? Is there anyone there?"
@@gromm93 Most likely, but he sure ain't no nut cracker, what I mean by that is a dummy which most likely saved their lives that day. I do wonder if he had intro lessons or if that was an "intro/flight" lesson.
Do we have the tower audio?
that was epic
He can fly SOLO. please take a PPL to hem. Awesome. Was incredible 🎖🎖🎖🎖🎖👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👨✈️👨✈️👨✈️
haters in the comment about this dude not having any flying experience. He has common sense and not a total idiot, if anything better than most student pilots with 20+ hours. He probably knows about transponder codes, but he clearly didnt know the "ident" function and or how to even change the squawk which you cant expect someone with no training to ever figure that out. Kept his calm and prevented the crash, which most people would choke under pressure.
I fly r/c planes and helicopters. I'd give it a try. Wouldn't have much to lose. I like my chances against someone who's never flown anything. Glad he got down safely and I hope the pilot is ok
IDENT what. I just sh*t my pants😂
I've watched several of these types of videos and I've noticed a pattern in a few of them...specifically the ones that involve non-pilots. Why do the ground guys (tower, ATC, whomever) seem to insist on speaking pilot-speak, and why do they ask the non-pilot to change frequencies? And no, I'm not asking why those protocols exist. I'm asking why the grounders speak a language that non-pilots probably won't understand (what is an Ident? what is a squawk? what is a transponder?) and why on earth would you want the passenger to mess with the communications controls and so risk a loss of those communications because the passenger has no idea what he/she is doing?
And they say that’s a difficult plane to handle.
Goosebumps
He probably watched his friend fly many times and asked questions . . how did he know to put down the landing gear never heard the operator tell him that, he knew ....
the landing gear on that type of plane doesn't retract, so he didn't have to do that
Where was the co-pilot?
There was only one pilot
This passenger definitely has some aviation background. Probably an AME or sth…
The airtraffic controller guy initially is a bit too much flight lingo…
10-4 big buddy Roger Wilco.
Who is the passenger pilot and what does he do for a living...calm as a cucumber...maybe former military?
Driving is more complex than flying.
Hahahaha, this was a good one!
I call BS no experience.....he had some simulator time or been around planes heck of a lot then someone with no experience. He knew how to do to much up there for NO EXPERIENCE
no real flying experience.. but 2000 hours of MSFS experience…
10-4! 😄
What is 10-4?
@@WanHaz88 Copy. Affirmative. Roger. Okay. Got it. Word. Sup.
@@WanHaz88 It means that you understand what the other person said. It's a holdover from when using a radio was considered serious business. People even still say that on Citizen's Band (CB) radio. 10-4 is the only 10 Code still in use by civilians. Police use numerical codes all the time.
Barrel roll😱?
The ultimate barrel roll!
If anyone else finds themselves in this situation the ident button is in the yoke
It's also the only button that says "IDENT"... lol
@@spaight711 Gotcha the big red button that says AP Disconnect lolol
Can't get my nav steam (screen?) to turn on?
Stream
5000. ft cell phone ?
When flying be sure to take a stoner along with you just in case the pilot has a medical emergency. 🙂
10 - 4? LOL
I've read all of the comments and would like to add that it sounds like this guy is possibly well-off enough to have chartered flights to tropical places on some basis, regular or not. Might one not become very familiar thereby, from hearing the pilot in an intimate environment? Geez, I'm not a male, but you people really are brutal to each other. I'm just sayin'.
Found a interview of the pilot that talked the plane down:th-cam.com/video/Rad24e17_D8/w-d-xo.html
Is he a cop? Do cops say 10-4?
Well everyone with a radio education would use it I guess. Truckers for example do use it.
@@RubenKelevra yeah he's a grade or two above total n00b. I wish I can do half as good under such stress.
Heck, I work in retail and say 10-4 and copy that on the radio. Lol
@@k.pacificnw02134 I accidentally said it on the radio as a cab driver, even though company policy was to say "check" when ending radio transmissions. I was still used to saying it as a delivery driver.
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I don't buy this story 🤔.
The whole story is very fishy. I don’t buy it at all.
Go to show you that pilots are overrated.
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@@stevegiboney4493 lol
Wrong ding Dong haha 😂
Faked to get likes on instagram.
Civilian who knows what "squawk" means.
Sad.
That's exactly the one thing that raised my eyebrow. Who the hell knows what squawk means to do.
@@Ash-cy7yw I've never ever flown a plane but have been watching quite a lot of GA TH-cam videos and listened to many ATC recordings. So I can confidently say that I do understand some of the lingo, and assuming the lad in the video has also been watching videos (and possibly even paying attention to the pilot's inputs from the passenger seat) it is absolutely normal that he has a very general knowledge of what is what/where.
I'm a civilian. I've been watching aviation videos like VasAviation and H89SP channels for years. Mentour Pilot would show the instrument panel when doing his breakdowns.
I may be familiar with some aviation terminology but that doesn't mean I can fly a plane.... Squawk, ailerons, stick shaker, the LOT plane crashed because it had 13 ball bearings instead of the manufacturer's 26 bearings in the turbine... glider plane incident - I learned about RAT, etc...
I'm very civilian and I came across the term squawk in a youtube video about a SR-71 getting engine trouble over the Baltic sea.
The tower said "squawk" first so he was repeating it, cheesequake
Hated in the comments to get attention.
Sad.
Have always worshiped ATC.... they are Gods on the ground!