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Test driven xc90 b5, placed the booking. Ended up bought this carnival 7H. Got it for 2 weeks plus. Wonderful for both daily drivers and long journey cruising. Happy wife happy life
Same as me. Been eyeing for xc90 for many years, manage to test drive it few months back. But then, the wife doesnt like it, on a common road, it sway to the right and left, making her feel sick. Well, my passengers matters.
@@ParachuteManiac i use that extra budget to get myself a Mini SE resolute edition, haha
8 seaters high spec, mid of 2nd roll turn into another way round, plug in isofix, best way for husband and wife to check or take care of infant! Turn it back to normal after 15 months! How nice!
Bought a nissan serena 3 years ago coz my kids loved it. For kuching it was a great car. Now that we are using it to travel between KB and KL, the serena is nice for the passengers but a torture for the driver in terms of handling and the comfort. its nice to know that there is something that i can look forward to when my budget allows me to upgrade in the future.
I just book the 8 seaters High...... Before this I look down at KIA may be previously under KIA.... I read the comments from Bermaz management and after test drive fall in love. Terus booking on the spot. Used to drive XC 90 and CX 9....... during test drive feel a bit like driving those cars. value for money and my family love it. Awaiting the delivery. Hope can use during Raya time......keep it up KIA/Bermaz.
Under KIA NAZA.
Hi bro, planning to buy the cx-9. Could you please compare in terms of handling, comfort, ride quality and power? Thanks
I like the kid reviews… cuz they slam the best feelings thou. I am driving a G30 530i Msport, but now having said it is not really a family car, cuz having a 3 yrs old daughter and a newborn baby boy, time to chase something for money, value, usage. I test drive the 7 seater, and my 3 yrs old daughter cried I didnt bring back that car 😂. I mean for those having family esp young kids, if you can buy one of these… with 5 yrs warranty and services… its a buy worriless concept for easily next 5 to 6 years…. Then why you should not consider buying? Its a 2023 wishlist thing for me… trading in my G30 for KA4 7 seater. Lets see! 🎉
Nice review bobby...agreed it is a huge car...and it should handle well..agree with your comment that it should be considered as a comparison to a 7 seater suv
boby size is not average malaysian size. if bobby say its spacious.. its is SPACIOUSSSS
Macam biasa..review terbaik from Mr Bobby
I'm a Estima Owner I think is a good choice to switch to the Carnival is similar but is much better NVH , Fuel efficient, Toyota Engine are loud when rev over 2k rpm the sound come, more torque.
Kia/Hyundai all this while is a pretty good car and brand, just that under weak management from Naza group. I'm pretty confident under Berjaya group this brand will shine again.
Now Under bermaz, living in what year?
@@amiraul77 year 2022.
U in what pulak? BTW I living on earth too. R u?
If Kia cars were good, they would have been top sellers here. Ppl got eye, hand , and brain one ok? They can tell good from bad. And no, korean cars are lousy thats why nobody bought them. Stop blaming the dealers. If the car is lousy, no dealer can save them.
@@kev2345lousy here top sales in north American, middle east.russia. only Malaysian don't appreciate good nvh,ride comfort great chassis integrity,with proper rear wheel multilink suspension , that Korean offer rather choose cheaply manufacturer torsion beam rear with japs batch.
@@kev2345Ya. Kia num3 rank in world
Agreed. The entrance can't be compared to alp8 and vellfire. It's just too low to get into the kia. Bosses will still prefer the easy entrance.
boss only ride toyota? if you are a boss would you or would you go for germans? haha
these alphard and veilfire is for wannabes who wanna be seen but can only afford that lol
@@ahwai82 Low class Ah beng / Ah Loong boss 🤣🤣🤣
@@incisor78 don't lah say like that, even it's the truth hahahah
@@ahwai82 wannabe? A lot of old rich guy prefer the alphard because of the comfort.
I'm really curious - the entrance tbh is that really important vs giving better shock depth for better comfort and better aero dynamic?
if really need the space is it ok to sit behind the passenger seat rather than driver?
If those 2 are the only concerns I think I'm still ok with the carnival though. the look gives a bit of the escalade vibe in the US (those gigantic rapper car)
But the Boss always seat on the left instead of the right, behind the driver. That’s why you noticed sedans with front passenger seat it pushed to to the front and back of seat is folded front
Very good and sincere review bro. U made me changed my perception towards this KIA car. May be the new KIA's have improved a lot. Awesome review. Thanks bro
Look way much cooler than the many Alphards and Vellfire. Safer, powerful, sleek, stable, than the japanese boxy van. Dunno why msians love the ugly japanese boxy van that is only suitable for Japan's narrow road.
Kids are really honest on their oppinions..go bobby
lol the alert noise like you got a missile locked on your tail
The problem with Bobby is, when he justifies something. Its always a practical one. So I ended up buying the cars he review.
He reviewed Meganne, I got them. He reviewed the F30 back then, also I ended up got them. Now the Carnival? Haih stress.
Buy what you need hahaha!
Otai racun Bobby ni 😆
Hi Bobby. planning to buy the cx-9. Could you please compare in terms of handling, comfort, ride quality and power? Thanks
mpv or suv or truck. Strangely we had toss up between a 2022 cx8 n a 2022 Kia Carnival to rent drive from Mel to Sydney for a full family of five adults of drivers. Guess which one we chose for the 2500km trip.
I really don't understand people that buying vellparhs, if you can afford that car, that means you're some what rich right?
comfort wise, sound deadening was shit, handling was shit feels like sitting in a boat makes people car sick
most importantly, can you imagine what happen if you get into a high speed crash in that car?
no matter which side you got hit, it's gonna hurt so much compare to other car in that price range
Vellparhs makes sense on Japan,Taiwan,HK and other small country that they doesn't need to get up to highway everyday but Malaysia?
even a normal 3 lane road you still need to bring the car to a certain speed, makes it so dangerous to all the passenger in that car
as a OK income person, isn't that safety is the first priority when you hauling your whole family in a car?
Whichever car ah, the roads here are built by children for adults.
I got a previous version of carnival and its black..i plan to change the rim to black and have a black chrome grill. My uncle already claim this as a mafia car🤣
10:07 not a veilfire alphard replacement but still an exceptional balik kampung car.
before I bought this Carnival, used to rent Vellfire for family trips. have to say this car is better in term of handling and smoothness driving. Minus point for Carnival is the headroom. you can see Vellfire is higher than Carnival
Looking forward to a Staria comparison
Seems that this van is getting more popular. Saw lots of this van nowadays....knows few ppl that hv ordered it
rather seeing a lot of these than alphard/vellfire to be honest
Do you prefer the 7 or 8 seater more?
Bobby, any idea when the sorento coming in?
Love this car.. just hate all the behind passanger seats are squatting posture like,the knee is higher and your pelvic is sinking in. 😪
it is more like an American suv replacement. Like those US mafia/politician like to use chevy suv, gmc, Lincoln navigator.. or the beast! 😁
Indeed all the specs are awesome, beats the Alphard Vellfire, I definitely choose this KIA over them both. But,,, my family are 6 plus size adults.. Those 2nd row and 3rd row are major let down for this KIA, not big enough for us.. Haihhh...
8:45 True story. Those who care about brands are those BBNU people.
The Lite model captain seat can adjust face to face with 3rd row i think
cannot F2F with 3rd row as there were electrical cable connection to the pilot seat.....
How about the Adas system compare to Volvo Pilot Assist?
Smart kids!
bobby's reaction when his daughter chosen the blue car to be sold 😂
That1 his treasure cannot sell lah got sentimental value
7:00 How does the Carnival ride comfort compare to the Alphard? Especially in the back seat (boss mode)?
NVH and suspension the Kia Carnival is better than Vellphards. Just the second row captain seats cant be compared because they're smaller
Due to my experience with vellefire 2.5 2018, nvh, passenger's comfort, road bumps, kia carnival performs way much better by huge margin. You should try both, you might relate later.
“You can’t sit 3 Bobby Ang” 😂😂😂😂😂😂
100% AGREE
feel like this car is gonna end up being heavily underappreciated due to the brand. can clearly see kia has put in a lot of effort into making this car
True...korean automakers should use opportunity all this time to fully upgrade their mpv into at least the same level as alphard, just like chinese counterparts...they are really advancing without looking behind, they don't mind bout their competitors...they just think like japanese, if u r good enuf nobody would complain n just buy ur car nevertheless, thats what a velphard names is all about really~
My Chinese family all only buy toyota i kena scold for bringing kia hyundai to the conversation many years ago when getting my 1st car i was thinking about ioniq hybrid,or a kia picanto for urban driving. In the end most Malaysian family is either proton perodua toyota honda then if they rich abit they go mazda but i really wish more people will accept kia hyundai as their quality is certainly better
@@yagooatthegoat if they rich a bit usually they go for merc or bmw😂 but their reason behind why they dont want to get hyundai/kia is always because difficult to get spare parts and higher maintenance when in reality its only slightly higher than Honda maintenance and you’d barely feel the pinch
@@tishen0006 Its because they dont even drive good yet are priced similar to the Japanese . U can have an interior the quality of bentley but if the car drives like a sampan even at 120kmh, nobody is going to buy your car
Can review again when X90 comes out @bobby
24:15 for the family 🙏🏽
That the opening of the door Bobby, not the roof
1:54 that would be the staria
How about the safety features?
Carnival confirm safer
I owned both vellfire and carnival. Id say carnival is better in overall.
No armrests in the back seats is a big fail
Then get the staria 7 seater.
The Best review so far.. You addressed the most common question ppl thought about this car.. Definitely I agree with you this is no way an alphard/vellfire replacement.. Totally different comfort level.. Hence ppl will pay 300k for a recond alphard than a 50k discount for a Carnival
Ride comfort, cornering, undulation, sound proofing, i think this car beats Vellphards.
@@BobbyAngmalaysia sure.. But seating comfort, family friendly, nothing beat alphard/vellfire.. I always believe if it's an mpv, it should be big, boxy whatsoever.. You sacrifice the shape for comfort.
@@fadzliaswan7886 not true. Carnival is so family-friendly, especially for large family.
@@fadzliaswan7886 False. Ride comfort and NVH noise is lousy in Alphard.
Nvh in Alphard is bad 110kmh chassis rattle road noise prominent in cabin,felt dizzy after 2 hours sit in mid row. Similar feeling to bus express( just my opinion)
Great in-depth review of this car. However i think it didnt sit quite well for me when you kept comparing it to other high-end SUV’s such as the X5, Q7, etc. Theyre completely different cars in terms of theirs looks, their usage and people who buy those SUV’s are generally looking for cars with that silhouette rather than a ‘van’ look. It also depends on the opportunity cost of buying this compared to the SUV’s as mentioned, such as regular long distance traveling as a family, having a driver so youll enjoy the comfort at the back seat. On the other spectrum, people who purchase those luxury SUV’s as said are people who perhaps drive alone, or with a partner and who do not wish to drive such a long car everyday. Just my personal opinion!
Thanks for your inputs. I mentioned it challenges those is because it handles like one, rides like one and behaves like one and mind I say, it looks the part too. Whereas the velphards, they provide space and comfort but that's about it. Hence I said the carnival results in premium SUV's having a hard time defending their turf.
Sell the white car, hahaahha the roadtax for 10yrs can pay up 65% of the car, hahahahaha
I am a father of two daughters and my wife is expecting the third baby at this moment. Planning to get a family car that can fit the best for my family; as well as my parents occasionally.
I am considering between Kia Carnival and Toyota Alphard or Vellfire; Carnival for its practicality, engine performance and handling, while Alphard or Vellfire for its design and comfort.
Although both cars are in different category as mentioned in your video, still I will like to seek for Bobby’s wise opinion the best family car fit to my family, especially for daily and vacation purpose..
i would take the Carnival in a heartbeat. Better handling and ride comfort, and in my opinion, safer.
Appreciate for your sincere feedback, Bobby.. At least it solve my dilemma, and I will opt for Carnival. 🙏🏻
If you are bos go for alpahard.. if you are driver better carnival.. if We all bapak2 go for kia carnival, and you will enjoy your drive..
Unless you like recond cars
Bobby you bought Kia carnival
No i did not ... I love the car but i know if i buy it i will be stuck to mpvs my whole life cos my kids wouldnt wanna be in anything else from then onwards
@@BobbyAngmalaysia ur right. I sold my Velfire for the Arteon. Best decision ever haha
@@BobbyAngmalaysia defo a real car guy 😂
Sell what car! Just buy more parking spots 🤣🤣🤣
“Which car u want daddy to sell?” Answer : “Your white car” 😂😂
Distance btween roof n floor...v class mercedes the best..
Is it BMW becoming more Kia, and Kia becoming more BMW? 🤣😅
Let me know if you want to trade your RS6. After look at this video, I would like to buy your RS6.
I think kia carnival is better than the vellfire and alphard
I know which one you should sell and replace it with this Kia! That old Fiat!
If it's really good, n u wouldn't mind the logo...would u trade ur rs6 for this van man? The prestige of a brand still important i believe...that's why no matter how good this machine is, it would never sell well like the more renowned brand~ its not all bout practicality only, its bout the image, stance n value for money u got for this kind of price...its niche n unique not a mainstream, that's the harsh truth...just like its twin brother hyundai starex~
Sure or not kill luxury 5 seater SUV 😂
Well, it is as well built and as quiet as those. And then I showed you what you can do in the second row that you can't in an XC90 or X5 or RX or GLE and Q7 etc. Cayenne is different cos that one handles like nothing else so it comes with a different proposition
@@BobbyAngmalaysia no doubt Kia's build quality and price point will sway 'some' buyers, but majority of those aiming for the cars you mentioned will likely stick to their range as their main reason of going for those choices boils down to branding.
EVERYTHING BETTER THAN ALPHARD ...
The stupid Alphard/ Veilfire is the official car for all the Scammer and Crime syndicate Bosses .
Haha
Sell kidney
Brand Korea nie sekjp jer jadi sebutan, after a few month ia kembali senyap so vellfire alphard hiace jugak yg org cari
I’ll still get the fortuner over this 🤣
Definitely smaller family decision. Unless ur kids are old enough to climb in and out. Or is it bcos of Toyota? Hahah
Fortuner is not full size 7 seater SUV. With full load of 7 you'll have zero luggage room.
Fortuner - 4x4 .for construction manager,or ladang manager that use 4x4. Not as comfort/road hugging as this KC ,even mall crawler SUV less body roll more stability Than Fortuner. No offense but it a good 4x4 though
Its not even in the same league as Vellfire or Alphard. To begin, its ugly in comparison to the Toyotas, it doesnt have that luxury feel
It rides more luxurious than those, and is miles safer than those.
@@BobbyAngmalaysia unfortunately it doesnt have the same level of prestige as Vellfire & Alphard. No businessman will use Kia Carnival as their business car to meet clients
This is very obviously a family car dude. Dunno why the hate. It is a very well thought up car. If only Kia made their spare parts more available in Malaysia, this car would be a good alternative choice.
Interior of Alphard not even feel that premium dude. Exterior maybe flashy I get it. But this one has more class but many Asians like you don't understand class, just like flashy exterior.
@@zeroxzero159 You will only know its premium after 1 year usage when you realise how well the cabin holds up to wear and tear while korean cars will start to show its age within 1 year.