Just got mine. What i didn't think of was the saddle i had some generic seat from years ago ,damn thing turned into a real ass hatchet. Had to go back to my old flite trans alp for comfort even then im going to look into one of the ones with the cutouts, comfort is important with these things
charging the control on the handle bars was an eye sore at first, then I realized it only needs to be charged about once a month. I just completed a December challenge, riding everyday and almost every day indoors for 50-60 minutes and only plugged in my controls at the beginning of the month.
@@VictorRodriguez-gg6pb nice work! Yeah agreed, I’ll just charge once a month. It’s nice that when you startup Zwift it displays the battery level so I can keep an eye on it too.
Nice review...Love the Manitowish tee. We had a vacation home on Lake Manitowish for decades starting in the 50's...brother now has a home on Little Star. Wonderful bike paths and they are expanding.
There is a $100 discount thru Jan 6 for that package. May depend on what state you live in but i would be charged a sales tax which would add another $96 along with the $75 shipping. Will probably get the Jet Black Victory trainer and buy the Zwift frame without the Wahoo trainer
The main/only reason I'm not going to buy one of these Zwift frames is that the crank arm length is 170mm. I've been using 165mm for over 10 years and is the perfect length for me. They should make them adjustable. Maybe that will be on the next model? Another reason not to buy the complete bundle is the Kickr Core. I did try a Kickr Core before upgrading from a Kickr V2 to the Kickr V5 I have now but it just didn't have the road feel I was used to. Saying that... I am thinking of trying the virtual Zwift shifting and the Core is one of only 3 trainers that work with the Zwift Cog system so might try a Core again although the Elite Direto XR might be better. The Kickr V6 works with virtual shifting but a bit too much to spend just to try it.
@@tonyd3049 A new Kickr Core with the Zwift Cog & Click was delivered today. I tried the Core first with just a normal 12 speed cassette just to get a feel for it compared to my existing Kickr V5 which I've had for over 3 years. Seemed a bit odd to buy a new lower spec trainer than the one I've got. I then rode Stage 1 of Tour de Zwift (B). The Core didn't feel too bad and better than when I last tried one. I then rode Stage 1 of Tour de Zwift (C) with the Click. I just started using the Click buttons with the 12 speed cassette on the 14T rear and 34T oval on the front. OMG! Why don't all bikes change gear as fast as you can with the Click! It has changed my thinking of what's needed on the bike so going to change things. I was a bit apprehensive as to how the virtual gears would feel compared to normal gears but it feels great and are smoother & you can change gear as fast as your fingers allow. I did get the Zwift Play controls in the bundled package I got direct from Zwift so will fit them ASAP and it will be even better! 😍 I'll have to remove the front mech as the chain was rubbing and that was the only thing making noise. I'll fit the Cog tomorrow and that is supposed to be noisier than a normal cassette but I'm not bothered.
The number of issues showing up on the Zwift Forum would keep me away from that montage of parts. If I want to try virtual shifting I would probably go with the QZ app that works with most/all trainers. For an actual All-In-One system, one off the Smart Bikes will be better integrated but will be pricier. Also the Elite system should be out soon...that system will work on any app...as the Zwift Ride will only work on Zwift.
@@TheDustyDutchman You can use the Core and a regular bike (switch to a regular cassette) or you can run single-speed/erg on another app or use the QZ app. Zwift is a closed API and the package (using all pieces) is not compatible. The Elite system is. Will cost a bit more but the trainer (Justy 2) is higher level. People are dumping NEO 2T trainers, one of the best on the market, to get this package just for the Virtual Shifting. I am failing to wrap my head around that swap.
Please update in spring what you think of the Zwift Ride/Kicker Core. Thanks to you I'm upgrading to two 24" smart TVs and a sound bar from an old laptop and ipad. Darn you Dutchman!
@@ozgurinsan not exactly. Because it’s a wahoo trainer you can use it on any of the other popular training platform. The only thing that is proprietary to Zwift are the handlebar controls.
@@ozgurinsan I use the Zwift Ride and Kickr Core on GTA V, it's a ton of fun, and much more realistic and nice to ride in than Zwift which looks like a Dreamcast game
Just got mine, and it feels nice for sure. But I am sad that there's really nowhere to go for upgrades. There's nothing I can do for steering. There's nothing I can do for the climbing or swaying back and forth. I mean it's a solid machine and I like it for what it is. But yeah it is kind of disappointing that the only thing I can really upgrade is the handlebars and the seat and the pedals
@TheDustyDutchman My use case is pretty specific but I am using a mod for GTA V PC called GTBikeV so it would be cool if there was some small analog stick (even as small as the stick for the PSP handheld) for full 3d steering. And I watched a video of another guy with a much cheaper setup than mine that was using an actual bike with a front wheel attached and he has a smart sensor that works in the game mod. So for way less money he actually has more realistic/fun movement in the mod than I do. Like I said pretty niche case here
I feel "the next logical step" is a bit far-fetched. A Kickr Core (or used Zwift Hub), paired with your Synapse and the Zwift Cog + Play Controllers would offer you a very comparable experience for a fraction of the Zwift Ride bundle. Though, beautiful piece of hardware and surely a joy to ride on!
CORRECTION: The crank arms are 170mm on this bike, NOT 175mm. My mistake
Just got mine. What i didn't think of was the saddle i had some generic seat from years ago ,damn thing turned into a real ass hatchet. Had to go back to my old flite trans alp for comfort even then im going to look into one of the ones with the cutouts, comfort is important with these things
@@pcpwcail ass hatchet?! That’s hilarious, I’m gonna use that 🤣🤣 totally agree 👍
charging the control on the handle bars was an eye sore at first, then I realized it only needs to be charged about once a month. I just completed a December challenge, riding everyday and almost every day indoors for 50-60 minutes and only plugged in my controls at the beginning of the month.
@@VictorRodriguez-gg6pb nice work! Yeah agreed, I’ll just charge once a month. It’s nice that when you startup Zwift it displays the battery level so I can keep an eye on it too.
Great review. Replacing the saddle is a must. It can be a bit tricky.
Looking forward to more content. 🚴
@@ON3S3V3NTHR33 thank you! I struggle with saddles, I really only have one model that works for me. I’ve tried sooo many too
Nice review...Love the Manitowish tee. We had a vacation home on Lake Manitowish for decades starting in the 50's...brother now has a home on Little Star. Wonderful bike paths and they are expanding.
@@pjwillsr thank you! Manitowish is my happy place for sure. We try to make it there 3-4 times a year. Absolutely gorgeous up there 🙌
The next iteration should be integrating the Kickr Climb tech into that front fork.
@@JeremeyRodriguez ohhhh that would be a cool add on 👍
Great review. This almost makes an indoor trainer look fun. Or maybe it was the Miller Lites that did the trick?
@@walkerswild 🤣🤣 almost is the key. Just stick with the beer, way more fun 😆
There is a $100 discount thru Jan 6 for that package. May depend on what state you live in but i would be charged a sales tax which would add another $96 along with the $75 shipping. Will probably get the Jet Black Victory trainer and buy the Zwift frame without the Wahoo trainer
@@doziershaw9765 I saw that. The 10% off code I mentioned will save you a few more dollars tho. That sounds like a good conbo tho 👍
10:12 insert meme "you sure about that"? 😂
Its actually 170mm crankset, but your poimt about non adjustability is quite valid regardless.
@@galenkehler ope you’re right. My mistake, I’ll post a pinned comment with the correction. Thanks for pointing that out. 👍
Ha! Timing!! Mine just showed up to my from doorstep!!
@@wearethehaunted3831 the algorithm knows all!! 🤣🤙
The main/only reason I'm not going to buy one of these Zwift frames is that the crank arm length is 170mm. I've been using 165mm for over 10 years and is the perfect length for me. They should make them adjustable. Maybe that will be on the next model?
Another reason not to buy the complete bundle is the Kickr Core. I did try a Kickr Core before upgrading from a Kickr V2 to the Kickr V5 I have now but it just didn't have the road feel I was used to. Saying that... I am thinking of trying the virtual Zwift shifting and the Core is one of only 3 trainers that work with the Zwift Cog system so might try a Core again although the Elite Direto XR might be better. The Kickr V6 works with virtual shifting but a bit too much to spend just to try it.
Good info. Thanks!
I love the Zwift Cog upgrade. Almost silent compared to my old setup, and there is no need to worry about tuning up the 20 year old bike I'm using.
@@tonyd3049 A new Kickr Core with the Zwift Cog & Click was delivered today. I tried the Core first with just a normal 12 speed cassette just to get a feel for it compared to my existing Kickr V5 which I've had for over 3 years. Seemed a bit odd to buy a new lower spec trainer than the one I've got.
I then rode Stage 1 of Tour de Zwift (B). The Core didn't feel too bad and better than when I last tried one.
I then rode Stage 1 of Tour de Zwift (C) with the Click. I just started using the Click buttons with the 12 speed cassette on the 14T rear and 34T oval on the front. OMG! Why don't all bikes change gear as fast as you can with the Click! It has changed my thinking of what's needed on the bike so going to change things.
I was a bit apprehensive as to how the virtual gears would feel compared to normal gears but it feels great and are smoother & you can change gear as fast as your fingers allow. I did get the Zwift Play controls in the bundled package I got direct from Zwift so will fit them ASAP and it will be even better! 😍
I'll have to remove the front mech as the chain was rubbing and that was the only thing making noise. I'll fit the Cog tomorrow and that is supposed to be noisier than a normal cassette but I'm not bothered.
The number of issues showing up on the Zwift Forum would keep me away from that montage of parts. If I want to try virtual shifting I would probably go with the QZ app that works with most/all trainers. For an actual All-In-One system, one off the Smart Bikes will be better integrated but will be pricier. Also the Elite system should be out soon...that system will work on any app...as the Zwift Ride will only work on Zwift.
@@chrisbenten9971 Thanks for the info. The only part of the Zwift ride package that won’t work on another app is the buttons for the hand controls.
@@TheDustyDutchman You can use the Core and a regular bike (switch to a regular cassette) or you can run single-speed/erg on another app or use the QZ app. Zwift is a closed API and the package (using all pieces) is not compatible. The Elite system is. Will cost a bit more but the trainer (Justy 2) is higher level.
People are dumping NEO 2T trainers, one of the best on the market, to get this package just for the Virtual Shifting. I am failing to wrap my head around that swap.
Please update in spring what you think of the Zwift Ride/Kicker Core. Thanks to you I'm upgrading to two 24" smart TVs and a sound bar from an old laptop and ipad. Darn you Dutchman!
@@mikecarter6758 🤣🤣 I love it! Enjoy those upgrades, Every little bit helps! I will definitely be posting another “long term” review in the spring 👍
And it locks you into zwift platform. Good job zwift.
@@ozgurinsan not exactly. Because it’s a wahoo trainer you can use it on any of the other popular training platform. The only thing that is proprietary to Zwift are the handlebar controls.
@@ozgurinsan I use the Zwift Ride and Kickr Core on GTA V, it's a ton of fun, and much more realistic and nice to ride in than Zwift which looks like a Dreamcast game
@@ozgurinsan and the GTA V mod for bikes is free, besides the PC and game of course
@@TheDustyDutchman Oh really? I am able to use MyWhoosh and I am not forced to use Zwift?
@@TheDustyDutchman Oh really? I thought that I am forced to use the Zwift App.
Did the rider controls on top come directly with purchase or did you add to purchase?
They are included in the zwift ride package
Just got mine, and it feels nice for sure. But I am sad that there's really nowhere to go for upgrades. There's nothing I can do for steering. There's nothing I can do for the climbing or swaying back and forth. I mean it's a solid machine and I like it for what it is. But yeah it is kind of disappointing that the only thing I can really upgrade is the handlebars and the seat and the pedals
@@aegisfate117 yeah that’s a good point there’s not much you can upgrade. What upgrade would you want for the steering part of it?
@TheDustyDutchman My use case is pretty specific but I am using a mod for GTA V PC called GTBikeV so it would be cool if there was some small analog stick (even as small as the stick for the PSP handheld) for full 3d steering.
And I watched a video of another guy with a much cheaper setup than mine that was using an actual bike with a front wheel attached and he has a smart sensor that works in the game mod. So for way less money he actually has more realistic/fun movement in the mod than I do. Like I said pretty niche case here
@ wow that’s pretty cool!
You can steer with the orange paddles on the "brake levers" - at least in Zwift. Probably wouldn't work for your use case.
would this work for someone who is 36 years old and weighs 165 lbs?
@@acebikemedia that’s oddly specific…. Maybe? 🤔
@@TheDustyDutchman I feel like I get comments like that all the time. 😂
@ oh I know 😂
I feel "the next logical step" is a bit far-fetched. A Kickr Core (or used Zwift Hub), paired with your Synapse and the Zwift Cog + Play Controllers would offer you a very comparable experience for a fraction of the Zwift Ride bundle. Though, beautiful piece of hardware and surely a joy to ride on!
@@joinride_cc it’s certainly the best indoor cycling experience I’ve had yet. But that’s also a pretty low standard to beat lol