Nooooooo! That pebble!!! Great test and video, but the expensive motors did only as good as the Sport Tuned. Interesting data! Fingers crossed for the next one! 😎👊👍
Thanks 🤝 Yeah result was unexpected (but on par with RPM). And the tested Sport Tuned was a vintage one, far from new. Next run, most iconic Tamiya motor (and one of his "brother") 😁🤝
Thanks 🤝 Well, while more expensive, the Superstock ?Z are rebuildable (easier to clean, can change brushes and true the commutator). Also, they may be more suited for dirt track, than speedrun. I wonder what the RZ would do, but I don't have one. Next vid will be very vintage... with the most iconic Tamiya Motor... ever 😁🤝
Interesting...... I'm actually quite suprised by these results fella. The GT tuned was a little quicker than I was expecting, and the superstock a little slower! The GT tuned in my Avante 2011 is absolutely gutless, it was so slow I removed it after just one run. The Superstocks however are a firm favourite of mine, and I have many RZ, TZ, and BZ..... I was expecting closer to 30mph with the TZ in all honesty. I highly recommend changing out the bushes on each end of the rotor to proper bearings on the superstocks.... It's a fiddly job but well worth the effort. These motors run very hot stock, the bearings help keep them a bit cooler, more efficient, and give a slight speed increase to! Enjoyable upload mate. 😊 👍 👍 👍
I'm with you. The GT Tuned was bland on the rpm bench, but performed better than expected. As for TZ, I was disappointed by the rpm, so much that I dug out the BZ and RPM were the same ( this almost eliminate a so-so ) motor 🤝
Adding that I will probably add bearings in them. I was not impressed by them (1 in Super Astute, 1 in Egress) but let's not forget these are 23 turn... not 14x2-17x2 like we used for example in late 80's 🤪
@@coygtrc Bearings definitely help the overall efficiency and temp..... and I gained 1mph speed on average by fitting them. The RZ is the best of the three, slightly quicker than the BZ and TZ. Like you, I found the BZ and TZ equal. And yeah, I miss the sheer choice and variation of the eighties brushed motors for sure! 👍 👍 👍
Well shit.... Sport Tuned motor just as fast as the Super Stock and half the price..... Great runs and this was a real eye opener... Time for the more exotic, vintage motors..... Bummer that it went belly up, I know how that feels.... Great runs and again, awesome dyno tests...
We have to take into account that they are fully rebuildable, contrary to the Sport Tuned. Next run, most recognizable Tamiya Motor. We'll have to wait for the crazy motors 😁🤝
@@coygtrc Agree and was going to mention the fact that the brushes can be replaced and the motor is "serviceable" opposed to a "sealed" can motor... I am getting ready to add ball bearings into my BZ motor to see if I get any more performance over the bronze bushings, rumor has it you can get from 300 rpm to 800 rpm more (I need to double check this).
@@coygtrc I hear ya Gabe, can I call you Gabe or do you prefer Gabriel? A hair dryer to warm up the can at the output shaft end and they almost fall out, as for putting them in, (heat also) a wooden dowel 8.25mm really helps seat them back in, could use a brass or alloy punch too, the endbell is super easy..
@@JoevsRc Nice 👍 Got the dyno on Ebay but not common. Not the best as there's no torque value, but here, we want to be the fastest, not the most efficient around a track 😁
Nooooooo! That pebble!!! Great test and video, but the expensive motors did only as good as the Sport Tuned. Interesting data! Fingers crossed for the next one! 😎👊👍
Thanks 🤝 Yeah result was unexpected (but on par with RPM). And the tested Sport Tuned was a vintage one, far from new. Next run, most iconic Tamiya motor (and one of his "brother") 😁🤝
More and more people in this speed run. I really like the motor teating. Great work.
Thanks 👍 The more the merrier 😁🤝
Awesome I like your scientific aproach. Although the results might be not the ones you had hoped for. Best wishes for your next runs
Thanks 🤝 Well, while more expensive, the Superstock ?Z are rebuildable (easier to clean, can change brushes and true the commutator). Also, they may be more suited for dirt track, than speedrun. I wonder what the RZ would do, but I don't have one. Next vid will be very vintage... with the most iconic Tamiya Motor... ever 😁🤝
Interesting......
I'm actually quite suprised by these results fella.
The GT tuned was a little quicker than I was expecting, and the superstock a little slower!
The GT tuned in my Avante 2011 is absolutely gutless, it was so slow I removed it after just one run.
The Superstocks however are a firm favourite of mine, and I have many RZ, TZ, and BZ..... I was expecting closer to 30mph with the TZ in all honesty.
I highly recommend changing out the bushes on each end of the rotor to proper bearings on the superstocks.... It's a fiddly job but well worth the effort.
These motors run very hot stock, the bearings help keep them a bit cooler, more efficient, and give a slight speed increase to!
Enjoyable upload mate. 😊
👍 👍 👍
I'm with you. The GT Tuned was bland on the rpm bench, but performed better than expected. As for TZ, I was disappointed by the rpm, so much that I dug out the BZ and RPM were the same ( this almost eliminate a so-so ) motor 🤝
Adding that I will probably add bearings in them. I was not impressed by them (1 in Super Astute, 1 in Egress) but let's not forget these are 23 turn... not 14x2-17x2 like we used for example in late 80's 🤪
@@coygtrc
Bearings definitely help the overall efficiency and temp..... and I gained 1mph speed on average by fitting them.
The RZ is the best of the three, slightly quicker than the BZ and TZ.
Like you, I found the BZ and TZ equal.
And yeah, I miss the sheer choice and variation of the eighties brushed motors for sure! 👍 👍 👍
I cant say I have ever laughed at a crash but I did. Way to make it interesting and humorous. Great data to be us a later date for me.
The bumps and pebbles have haunted me since the 2023 TT02 Poor Boys RC Speed Challenge 😫
@@coygtrc Ioh I have had my fair share of spin outs crashes ect I feel for you.
Well shit.... Sport Tuned motor just as fast as the Super Stock and half the price..... Great runs and this was a real eye opener... Time for the more exotic, vintage motors..... Bummer that it went belly up, I know how that feels.... Great runs and again, awesome dyno tests...
We have to take into account that they are fully rebuildable, contrary to the Sport Tuned. Next run, most recognizable Tamiya Motor. We'll have to wait for the crazy motors 😁🤝
@@coygtrc Agree and was going to mention the fact that the brushes can be replaced and the motor is "serviceable" opposed to a "sealed" can motor... I am getting ready to add ball bearings into my BZ motor to see if I get any more performance over the bronze bushings, rumor has it you can get from 300 rpm to 800 rpm more (I need to double check this).
I will probably add BB, too, in BZ and TZ. With the right tool, it's "easy". I'm a bit lazy these days and too many motors to prepare 😢
@@coygtrc I hear ya Gabe, can I call you Gabe or do you prefer Gabriel? A hair dryer to warm up the can at the output shaft end and they almost fall out, as for putting them in, (heat also) a wooden dowel 8.25mm really helps seat them back in, could use a brass or alloy punch too, the endbell is super easy..
Gabe's fine 😁I used a Muchmore bearing removal tool (not Tamiya motor, but similar 23t type), without a sweat 😉
Nice run! Looking good
Thanks 🤝Soon, it will have to look "fast" 😁 Will you take part ?
@coygtrc I did dust off my holiday buggy. Hopefully, I can get a run-in. Where did you get that motor analyzer?
@@JoevsRc Nice 👍 Got the dyno on Ebay but not common. Not the best as there's no torque value, but here, we want to be the fastest, not the most efficient around a track 😁