This movie helped some people cope with loss and grief. If you know you would lose someone you really love, would you choose not to meet or give birth to them because the grief and the loss you would experience in the end or cherish every beautiful moments while they last? Life isn't about the destination, it's the journey that matters.
I can see that. You are completely correct. I never wanted to have kids but now I wouldn't change a thing. I love my family and would be so sad and boring without them. -Toni 🤓
I am glad the themes in this movie was able to give you some closeure and coping mechanisms to deal with loss in life. ------- I myself found similar answers explored in the movie, but earlier in my life experiences. ------- This movie reinforced loads of my thoughts on life and loss.
My wife and i lost our son and our daughter. A stupid accident and a genetic disorder. I first saw this movie before both and i absolutely adore this movie. It speaks for me, although i think a lot of people couldnt grasp exactly how. This has happened to me and my wife and i dont think of this movie as sad. Everyone and everything shall pass, each in their own way at their own time. To me this movie is life-affirming. By the way, this movie is not about the arrival of aliens. It is about how we all arrive in our place in time.
I don't see the ending as sad. I see it as hopeful. She's embracing the joy and saying that even though she knows bad things are coming, she also knows she's going to have love, and that makes it worth it.
@@popculturallychallenged - If I watch a film that evokes strong emotions in me, I would hope it does the same in others too. If I see a reactor that has no emotion to it, it makes me kind of dislike their reactions (or lack thereof). A true emotional response is what we WANT to see, and your wife is great in these !!!
i think we like to see Toni cry not in a negative way, but in a way that seems authentic and in my opinion it shows the power of storytelling in this medium. i appreciate that a film has the power to cause someone to express emotions on such a deep level, we love toni and its always a joy to see her react whether in a happy or sad light.
It’s about catharsis. We, as human beings, can experience empathy through shared experiences. It also validates our own emotions. It’s part of the magic of watching a movie in a cinema instead of alone in your basement. The feels are different. So, when we watch you laugh, or be amazed, or even cry, we feel a shared bond with you. That’s a part of our desire for social connection. That’s my long-winded way of saying the reason it’s “fun” to watch you cry is because it creates a connection, which we thank you for. Not at all because of any negative feelings. 😊
This movie is a masterpiece. I remember literally sitting on the edge of my seat in the theater. It gets better every time I watch it. So many clues and other things to melt your brain. Every frame is perfect. Denis Villeneuve is a sci-fi wizard.
Indeed, this is a movie that is surprisingly better on the second watch, as you start to view it like how Louis does, a story that you already know from start to finish. Yet you would still find little details here and there that enhances the storytelling even more since you already know the entire story.
I noticed one frame a bit ago and keep mentioning it on other people's reactions to this movie 😅. In the intro, when Louise is going after Hannah with her "tickle guns", Hannah is dressed like a cowgirl complete with horse. The last frame of that has Hannah spinning around in the background out of focus. And in it, she has the silhouette of a Heptapod.
I should look up more movies from Villeneuve. Btw, has anyone ever wondered how did they get back down from the ship? (I know, some might be thinking, the same way they came - but think about it - how could they gauge their “jumping back down”?) Its working against gravity vs working with gravity…
This movie is only sad if you focus on the premature death of her child. If you focus on the fact that she was able to have a child and love her and be loved by her, it is a joyful movie. Knowing when her child would die means that she maximized her time with her daughter. If you ask any parent who has a child that has died if they would want to erase the existence of that child to save themselves the pain of the death, I don’t think any would. We only consider this movie sad because we focus on what we think should happen (a long life) instead of the gift we’ve already received (a life). The two of you said you wouldn’t want to know when your child dies. I assume you have not lost a child. If you had already lost a child, I’m guessing you would answer differently. If you knew beforehand, you would be able to say goodbye and to tell that child how much he/she is loved. Wouldn’t that be a gift? I love this movie because it poses some great philosophical questions and forces us to look at things from a different perspective.
Toni, the only reason someone would want to make you cry is so they don’t have to cry alone. Love you both! I think this movie is what it would actually be like to meet aliens.
@popculturallychallenged this film also made me cry, it shows you have a big heart and that's a wonderful thing to possess as a human being. Be proud that you're an empathetic person, as empathy seems to be a dying emotion in today's world.
The depth of writing, ingenious editing, the purposeful imagery and supremely rich dialogue have created one of the most significant revelations in a film over the last few decades. “Who is this child” sent shockwaves through me at first watch because you realize they were flash-forwards. This movie still sticks with me and impacts my perspective since seeing it in the theater in 2016. I was fortunate to meet the cinematographer Bradford Young in 2022 (look him up-you’ll be impressed with his impressive career). I was able to tell him how much this film and its intelligence and symbolism affected me.
I love this movie. I agree with Toni that the ending was hopeful. Having lost a child myself, I appreciate your perspective that going through that situation is the worst. It is terrible, but everyone dies and we have no control over the timing. I'd say the bigger tragedy is not living, or to phrase it a different way, living in so much fear of being hurt that the beautiful moments of life are missed. I treasure the time I had with my son, and I wouldn't be the man I am now without going through that. It didn't break me; it made me better. Unless we put ourselves in situations that could potentially hurt us, we aren't the people we could be. Go out! Take chances. Fall in love! Get hurt and do it again! Be the best version of yourself today. Even if you start out faking it, eventually you become the person you always wished you were.
This reminds me of an old Reddit post about a man explaining grief. Sorry for the long response but what he wrote really resonated with me. "Alright, here goes. I'm old. What that means is that I've survived (so far) and a lot of people I've known and loved did not. I've lost friends, best friends, acquaintances, co-workers, grandparents, mom, relatives, teachers, mentors, students, neighbors, and a host of other folks. I have no children, and I can't imagine the pain it must be to lose a child. But here's my two cents. I wish I could say you get used to people dying. I never did. I don't want to. It tears a hole through me whenever somebody I love dies, no matter the circumstances. But I don't want it to "not matter". I don't want it to be something that just passes. My scars are a testament to the love and the relationship that I had for and with that person. And if the scar is deep, so was the love. So be it. Scars are a testament to life. Scars are a testament that I can love deeply and live deeply and be cut, or even gouged, and that I can heal and continue to live and continue to love. And the scar tissue is stronger than the original flesh ever was. Scars are a testament to life. Scars are only ugly to people who can't see. As for grief, you'll find it comes in waves. When the ship is first wrecked, you're drowning, with wreckage all around you. Everything floating around you reminds you of the beauty and the magnificence of the ship that was, and is no more. And all you can do is float. You find some piece of the wreckage and you hang on for a while. Maybe it's some physical thing. Maybe it's a happy memory or a photograph. Maybe it's a person who is also floating. For a while, all you can do is float. Stay alive. In the beginning, the waves are 100 feet tall and crash over you without mercy. They come 10 seconds apart and don't even give you time to catch your breath. All you can do is hang on and float. After a while, maybe weeks, maybe months, you'll find the waves are still 100 feet tall, but they come further apart. When they come, they still crash all over you and wipe you out. But in between, you can breathe, you can function. You never know what's going to trigger the grief. It might be a song, a picture, a street intersection, the smell of a cup of coffee. It can be just about anything...and the wave comes crashing. But in between waves, there is life. Somewhere down the line, and it's different for everybody, you find that the waves are only 80 feet tall. Or 50 feet tall. And while they still come, they come further apart. You can see them coming. An anniversary, a birthday, or Christmas, or landing at O'Hare. You can see it coming, for the most part, and prepare yourself. And when it washes over you, you know that somehow you will, again, come out the other side. Soaking wet, sputtering, still hanging on to some tiny piece of the wreckage, but you'll come out. Take it from an old guy. The waves never stop coming, and somehow you don't really want them to. But you learn that you'll survive them. And other waves will come. And you'll survive them too. If you're lucky, you'll have lots of scars from lots of loves. And lots of shipwrecks."
One thing that strikes me is that memories of Hannah's entire life are always present for Louise. Because she knows the outcome and because of her perspective of time, she enjoys every happy moment with Hannah simultaneously with every sad moment.
That is what perceiving non-linearity means. You perceive all of it, at any moment you focus on. And to decide to not to have that child would mean to erase it from the reality and loose all the good memories as well. Who would do that?
The movie is a representative the name Hannah. Watching the movie forwards and backwards and all the clues and connections come together. She turned her tragic situation into a loving appreciating everyday of her daughter’s existence.
The aliens said needed humanity's help in a couple of thousands of years, because by then humans would be so advanced that we can probably save interstellar civilizations. They knew this because of how their minds work, and understanding their language was the key for us to advance and know the events that will happen to their world and our world..
The clue early on is that the British fellow talking to Ian says that the aliens cannot understand algebra. Algebra is linear and the aliens are not. They need us in the future to solve a problem for them that requires linear thinking.
My favorite movie. I'm a parent to young kids (they were really young when I first saw this) and my career has been in communication. This movie speaks to me, and I ugly cry every single time I watch it. Heck, I have tears drying on my face just from watching this reaction. Great reaction by the way. It's nice seeing someone get as emotional as I do over this masterpiece.
With time being non-linear, Louise has the choice to live the wonderful moments over and over. The joy and enriched nature her daughter brought to world, even if for a short "time" was worth it.
She chooses to have her daughter despite knowing she will die young because it’s not about the ending, it’s about the journey. The love she has for her daughter and the time they had together will always outweigh the pain of loosing her. It’s better to have loved and lost, than never to have loved at all.
The way I interpreted this movie, the alien species saw humanity on a path of self-destruction leading to our annihilation. They saw in their own future that they were going to need the help of the human race so they intervened to set us on a new path to ensure that we survived.
As a single dad of daughters that are my life, my baby being Hannah’s age and also having just lost my my to a brutal cancer so fast and so unexpectedly , this broke me the same way “interstellar” did and I’ve seen a lot of people talk about the choice she made saying they would choose to NOT have the baby and I think many must not have children of their own or not considering what that would mean to chose to not have your baby. Having a “Hannah” of my own who is everything to me and having experinced some horrific things in life , I know it all put me where I am in life which also gave me my daughters. I’d go to hell and back to have my daughters in my life and I try with all I am to be the most amazing dad I can possibly be for my girls , make them feel how incredibly much they mean to me and the thought of not only not having them here but never existing , ever , in all of eternity so she doesn’t the desease in the end , I could Bebe do to her and couldn’t live with myself either. Just before my mom passed she told us though her life was ending so much sooner than she hoped, that marrying my dad and having raised all of her children and seen them marry and have babies has been an amazing life , that she’s the luckiest woman on earth. For her to say that during chemo of a cancer that was taking her life showed me how much we truly mean to her. that means if she had the choice to not have to experince cancer and pass away but shed never exist and experience all that made her happy, so someone elze chosing to not let her be born thinking they were saving her from pain denied her all the happiness she experineced in her life to save her 3 months of cancer. its not what my mom would want, ahed do it a million times over to jist meet my dad alone. similarly with my daughters being my life and the pain that would come frim losing any of them, the thought of not having one of my daughters is unbearable and in reality it woukd mean she never exists in all of time , id be denying her life, all the amazing exoerinces and my love for her . id experince a life of hell over and over to have my baby for a day verses never. if you could stop a terrible experience frim happening years away but had to give the years of amazing love and experinces it brings , you may be saving that heartache down the road but also not having the greatest happiness in life. i can understand tho if someones not had children becasue i could never have comprehended tye experimce of being a father to my babies or the Love i have for them, how amaxing it feels when they simply say i love you . before i had them i didnt know how much i wad missing in my life . just my opinion. the comments saying shes selfish for having Hannah anyway , they dont understand . the writer of the story clearly has children to write thst she has the baby. she sees the future so she knows she doesnt tell jeremy renners character and they have hannah, chosing to tell him prior instead may lead to not having her so i think she makes the same choices so she has hannah . if i lost my child to cancer and my wife came to me and said she saw this happen and didnt tell me ,..i couldnt blame her for making her choices because again, thw option is that baby i love so amazingly much wouldnt exist nor the memories i have and if she worried telling me prior to having a baby might stop it frim happening so she kept it to herself , i can 100% understand. i dont understand him leaving his wifd he loves, hannahs mom and breaking hannahs life apart , her family , the pain and sadness that comes to hannah for thst and not ecperiencing a childhood with mom and dad always around is selfish in my opinion . we see hannah sad when shes sad and confused aboug him leaving and that shes hurt and upset when she says it doesnt matter its not real , thats hurt. having been divorced and knowing the difficulty thats been on my babies , to put them through that for his reasons is making a decision that puts my babies in a heartbreaking situation for them because im mad at what she said? or that she waited to tell me? that is just disapointing to hear in the movie. i mean the heartbreak and grief hes experincing is real, but he loves his wife and his baby is still here and still so young, all id want is to spend every moment i could with my baby and give her that family experience all her days , not cut doen oue time together to weekends. in my head he comes back because he imagines what hed of missed out on had she chose to not and hed never have known his angel , shed never had had life and the amazing years she did , so he appologises and moves back amd they spend those years happy with hannah . interesting thought experiment
In fact, what we look for in reaction videos is really an emotional reaction. I believe that Toni reacts naturally and no one can criticize her for this, so we like the channel and we like the couple's reactions and comments.
I am definitely in that camp of thinking this is one of the top movies I have ever seen. So much heartbreak, beauty and hope all balled up in one. Loosing a child is the most devastating thing that can happen to a person and to know it's going to happen and continue down that path . . . ♥
This was one of my favorite movies. It's hard to understand that it was going back and forth in time but once you see that, it makes so much sense. Such an under rated movie.
@@kuhpunkt Despite the movie getting 8 Oscar nominations (including best picture and director), Amy Adams was left out, despite how well and believably she carried this movie (I thought great performances all around). The only Oscar win was for sound editing
@@anorthosite And that makes it underrated how exactly? It's critically acclaimed, hailed as one of the great movie of the past few years and as you said got 8 Oscar nominations. That's incredible. Underrated means it's better than people give it credit...
This movie was the biggest surprise in 2018 for me when I bought this movie on UHD DVD thinking it was an alien invasion action movie. Ohhh how wrong I was... this movie was so deep and touched my soul. People who lost someone close, or someone who knows the devotion and sacrifice in giving a birth and loving a child... this was so so deep and made me cherish people that I love around me. Now I have my 6 yr old son, doesn't matter what happens to us, I will never abandon what I have, had and will have... this movie really empowers me to live on being grateful. And I have to mention, Max Richter's music scores were cherry on top.
Toni, no one could ever hate you. Your crying is genuine feelings, not like some others that cry for the camera. David, I love your discussions at the end. You put a lot of thought into what you say, unlike some others that open wide and let it fly. Also, I think many viewers miss the fact that the ‘husband that left’ was Jeremy Renner, who couldn’t deal with the pending death of their daughter. Knowing the future is not a pleasant thing. We all would face that knowledge differently.
Ok, haven't clicked play yet, but knowing how I, a grown ass man, cry like a baby EVERY TIME i watch this movie, I foresee Toni's floodgates opening. Brb, will update later 😁 Update: Thank you for not disappointing 😁💙 And no Toni, is not out of hate at all. Quite the opposite indeed, it's about the affaction and the human connection so please don't feel bad. It's refreshing seeing reactors connecting deeply like you guys do whereas most reaction channels are just loud or uninteresting, fake, or copy-paste. So Thank you for enduring the headaches and please don't stop, maybe slow down on the sad stuff? lol. Personally I love this movie, hits you in every way: it's mind bending with the language time trivel and gut wrenching with the true real human emotions and dilemmas. Denis Villeneuve has quickly become one of my favorite sci-fi directors of all time, his other recent movies Blade Runner:2049 and Dune are also a real pleasure to watch even if not on Arrival level. As a sci-fi and language nerd, this movie hit all the right spots for me lol. This is the kind of movie that sits with you a long time after you watched it, that for me is the hallmark of a good movie. Not like Gravity of which dear Toni gave the most unintended, yet brutally honest review "Gravity? I already forgot about Gravity". I'm sure you won't forget so easily about Arrival
The central question is, knowing how Hannah dies, would you give up the joy of her being in your life? Its the whole... better to love and lost than never loved im the first place
I would definitely not give up on the joy of her being in our life but I think i would cry daily in private and try to make her life so full of fun and happiness that she would keep those memories for EVER. I loved it when her mom told her she was unstoppable!! Even though I'm blessed to have healthy kids, I take for granted and don't make their life's the best they can be by bringing them joy on a daily basis.... (feeling guilty at the moment in always getting after them to clean their room) is it really that important? -Toni 🥰
You're making them better even in the cleaning of their rooms, esp because of it. If they had short lives which ended up lazy or spoiled I'd wonder if I couldn't have done better by them.@@popculturallychallenged
The interesting bit that a lot of people miss is that Abbott and Costello could always understand english. And they knew Abbott would die. But they did what they did anyway. They werent following a process. Thats the wrong way to see it. They were going with the flow - or more correctly, the lack of flow - of time. They see everything as a ‘now’. The movie says ‘louise sees future’ but that’s because the english language has no language to describe the concept involved - the same way you assume both of the heptapods are male because they are given male names.
I saw this in theaters a few months after my brother’s passing when he was 20 years old. I had to stay during the end credits to cry in peace and then compose myself. It was that impactful.
Once she learns the heptapod's language, she can see all of her life, past, present, and future at will. Which means she can relive all parts of her daughter's life at all times. Her daughter's name is Hannah, which is a palindrome, and so is read the same forward and backward.
Whenever I watch reactions to films like _Train to Busan, The Green Mile, Saving Private Ryan_ etc, I'm in the mood to purge some tears. Since I'm a sympathetic cryer, haha, seeing the reactors I love cry does the trick. Sharing my beloved reactors' tears - and laughter, and jump-scares and wonder - is what I subscribe for. We don't hate you Toni, we love and appreciate you. 💝
“ the Sanskrit word for war” Her response was, “a desire for more cows.“ I just discovered this movie in 2023 with all of the tension overseas, it could apply to so much. This one in awards for best sound.
The interesting bit that a lot of people miss is that Abbott and Costello could always understand english. And they knew Abbott would die. But they did what they did anyway. They werent following a process. Thats the wrong way to see it. They were going with the flow - or more correctly, the lack of flow - of time.
Aww Toni :) Very honest and direct as always. Admirable! My humble recommendation: just enjoy movies you pick. And hoping maybe you gonna watch one day Manchester by the Sea. Take care
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I belive, that since Hanna's sickness was described as rare, her death might have lead to discoveries that in the future took mankind to the stars, and in three thousand years we were able to help those that once came to us. The gift is that instead of just remembering the past she remembers her whole life past, present and future. Great reaction to an amazing movie.
You have to ask whether Louise can actually change anything. Those future events may be as unchangeable as past events. Future memories that are no different to past memories. But even if she could change things then is it fair to expect her to not have those 12 wonder years of a relationship with her daughter? It would effectively be taking something good out of the universe to change things. I accept that many, myself included I guess, would see having future memories like Louise can as a curse rather than a gift. In general I think Arrival is a wonderful movie in every aspect. Gorgeous and consistent visuals, beautiful sound and music, great acting, tense and surprising. Just great film making.
Arrival is my favorite film. I'm a big fan of the way Denis Villeneuve tells his stories. I like how a lot of his films have female characters that can carry the story. I feel that this is the best performance so far by Amy Adams. She always comes across as intelligent and full of empathy. There is definite sadness, but I think it makes the viewer consider the big questions in life as you both did. In a way, it might encourage some to treasure the moments they currently take for granted. We can't see the future so we have to give our lives meaning without knowing what is to come. When Louise tells Hannah that she is unstoppable, is that telling the audience that Louise doesn't have a choice about whether to bring Hannah into the world? Or is she saying that it's the only choice she would ever have made perhaps? I'm glad someone in the comments looked at this from the point of view of the aliens. Abbott knew this was a one way trip and chose to make it anyway. I've watched every reaction I can find for this movie and the vast majority of people feel threatened and would be afraid to go on the ship because of how sci-fi movies usually depict aliens as hostile. Some would even attack the aliens even though they don't make any kind of threatening move at any point. Can you imagine what it would take to unite the world in reality? I thought the whole story was beautiful and moving. If I were about to have a baby girl, I would definitely name her Hannah. Thanks for watching. And Toni, I can't imagine anyone hating you. We just like seeing honest people who can be moved. David will always be there to reassure you. Repeat viewings add something to the experience. I must have seen the film 30 times. I would definitely choose to know when I am going to die; partly to say goodbye to loved ones, but also to make sure I didn't waste my last couple of years working. I enjoyed your discussion at the end.
This is my favorite science ficiton movie. I have always considered the end hopeful. Not only for the humantiy but for main character as well. She learned to appreciate the journey instead of the results. And her husband disagreed with her choice to have a kid knowing that she would suffer and die early. But she is prepared to take the hurt to experience the joy of life, companionship and motherhood, despite all of those things ending early.
I've seen this movie many times and watched a lot of reactions. It still brings me to tears every time. And much like Louise says, "Despite knowing the journey... and where it leads... I embrace it. And I welcome every moment of it." It's worth noting that on a second watch, you realise the opening monologue is from her perspective after everything with lines like "But now I'm not so sure I believe in beginnings and endings"
Hey David and Toni, I know the movie didn't have an upbeat ending. --------- I think the bitter sweet end matched the tone of the movie. ---------- I think it had a deep philosophical message to impart to the audience. That we should enjoy life to the fullest, the good and the bad. ------- Some of the worst times in my life have made me super creative at dealing with problems in life. ------- If I was to change those moments I would not be the person I am today. ------ It's such a difficult conundrum to deal with.
I cry every time I watch this movie. But it essentially attempts to provide one answer to unanswerable questions (what do we do with meaning making and cancer, etc?). Plus it’s remarkable story telling.
Yes, this movie is heartbreakingly sad, but its also incredibly beautiful. BTW we only love it when you cry because we're crying and it feels good to have someone to cry with.
Just FYI the no sleeping with a concussion thing is outdated. You just make sure they don't go too heavy and for symptoms that indicate brain bleed. Sleep is healthy.
If you think about it, Louise isn't choosing to have her daughter anyway, knowing what will happen. For Louise, her daughter's life is a lived experience for her, since she no longer experiences time linearly. She wouldn't be choosing to not have that future. She would be erasing the lived experience she now has of her daughter's life from the gift of the alien language. She chooses at the end to embrace it. And Ian's inability to stay once she finally tells him as the time draws nearer to their daughter's illness makes sense from his perspective as he doesn't experience time the way she now does. A beautifully crafted film that makes perfect use of Max Richter's On The Nature Of Daylight for the opening and closing scenes.
It wasn't heartbreaking, it was Joy! All we have is this moment. The only reason one feels missing or loss, is because one had got to feel love and life. To see it as sad is to miss the point. Would give up your children, not have them ever been born just to avoid sadness? Give me my children let them live. In this case, she sees the future, so I don't think the daughter dies. They find the cure. Remember, it wasn't a weapon... it was a gift
Louis says why it's a "happy" ending; "Despite knowing where the journey ends, I embrace it." which means she's ok with still having her kid and experiencing raising her, loving her. Despite your preferences, it'a happy ending for her.
We all connect with Toni, sometimes she cries at the same moments I cried when I first watched the movie. Sometimes I've cried rewatching with you both! Also many times she was crying in scenes I didn't but that's why we all love her! 😂 Always love both of your reactions on here! Keep em coming 😇
They show the daughter at the beginning because the movie is non-linear Just like their language. And the reason we only see the “flashbacks” later on in the movie is because when lousis is learning the language you start to be able to perceive time they way the aliens do.
All relationships are a mix of good and bad experiences (as are all lives). The question is would you, knowing about the bad things to come, choose a different path and also sacrifice all the good experiences. In the end you would simply be exchanging all those experiences-good and bad-for others. There would still be joy and still be grief. The movie really comes down to exploring the human experience.
My theory on why we like to see Toni cry is that it's so rare to see real, genuine empathy and vulnerability, and it's something people deeply crave. There's so much callousness in the world, so much emphasis on having "thick skin" or, when we're sad, either dissociating or lashing out in anger... instead of allowing sadness to be; to let it out. When we see Toni cry, it feels safe for us to cry; to feel. It feels like a safe space (: It's not cause we hate you Toni! It's because we want to be more like you (: And wish there were more people like you in the world. And, hopefully, by seeing more expressions of sincerity, your viewers (myself included) will find it easier to tap into our own tears and emote without shame. (And show others that it's okay and healthy, so that they start doing the same, and so on, and so on....)
We don't hate you Toni. If anything, i kind of hate myself a bit for putting you through this in a way :) And i hate headaches, so i pity even more. On the movie, yeah, one of the saddest ones, but personally it still feels uplifting. It is hard to express why though. Maybe the thing that you can feel such sadness makes you feel more human. Also, they managed to get people work together. Aliens need help of whole humanity in 3000 years, that's why they tried to bring people to work with each other. But they had problems conveying things to people, until they managed to teach her their language. The twist is indeed shocking. And also the time paradox (she took the number and what to say from her future). Along with general style, visuals, music, one of the best movies for me.
I affirm also that we love Toni, and that it is impossible to do otherwise. This is one of my favorite movies. The character of Amy Adams plays is a favorite of mine because she is so quiet, cool headed, human, and intelligent. I found the interaction between humans and Heptapods so engaging that I did not see this as a sad movie.
I don’t think this was so much about knowing… I think the beauty, the utterly, starkly painful beauty of this movie is not knowing you will lose your child, it’s just the love of being a mother. I imagine she must have loved this child so hard, so fully. Before having my girl, I saw this moving mir and said: ain’t no way I’d do this. Now that I have her I’d do the exact same thing.
Think of the alien that came to Earth knowing he's gonna die, but being aware their mission is so important and worth it, teaching humanity their language... if you go back and watch the movie again you'll see how that Abbot was more reluctant, came to the window much slower before the explosion...
To Toni: I think strong emotions make us feel more alive and connected with each other, when those emotions are shared. That's why people like to recommend these strong, mixed feelings movies to you. not to torture, but to share these amazing (in good and bad ways) with you. It's interesting to me, you two mirror the movie couple by the end of this movie. Toni mirrors Louise, accepting the knowledge and making the best out of it. and your husband mirrors Ian, who couldn't deal with the knowledge of the future as easily. And this is probably also why he struggles more with the ending. To me, this is not about the end of Louise's daughter's life, but all about that question she asks: if you could see your whole life, would you change things? As for the aliens, they need humans to work together, so we worry more about evolving ourselves and our technology instead of just killing each other all the time for petty reasons.
I feel Toni needs a laugh and cheering up, so may I suggest in my opinion one of the funniest movies I have ever seen by one of the greatest comedy duos ever the movie is "HERE NO EVIL SEE NO EVIL" STARRING GENE WILDER & RICHARD PRYOR.👍☺☺☺☺☺☺
2:58 me too 😭 even though I have watched dozens of reactions of Arrival it still gets me. I LOOOVE this movie and it brought me to your channel ❤❤ sending love to you and yours from Orlando Florida
I do believe this was a happy ending. The fact that Louise Banks is the key for humanity to finally find peace (General Shang used the word ‘unification’) is the happiness, although for her and Ian it was tinged by her knowledge of seeing time as non-linear, and knowing everything from beginning to end - the good and the bad. I’m only sorry that David didn’t see to enjoy it.
There is no happy or unhappy ending: there is just our lives, our freedom and our loved ones. And that is what she chose. Deleting her daughter's life to suppress pain was not an option for her.
It's not like you never have discussions at the end about the movie, but I think this one is your most in-depth one. Asking all those questions and what you would do. Isn't that the greatest thing?
Even looking purely at the language translation aspect, this is one of the most intelligent films I’ve ever seen. Most people have NO CLUE how difficult it would be to actually communicate with an alien species, and I applaud this movie for taking the time to underscore how painfully slow and methodical that would be.
While there is an obviously sad aspect to the ending its not simply that. The fact is the woman still chose to have the daughter despite knowing the outcome because there was still value in the girls life. If you consider that every kid eventually dies despite growing up the movie poses the question about the worth of life. If some people think she should have avoided having the kid because it would die does this mean nobody should have any kids because they will also eventually die? It also raises questions about kids who are born with disease or disability in the same vein. The movie did what it was supposed to do which is to trigger emotion and make you think and it did both. Also I dont think the aliens were just here to save humanity, they were telling the truth in that they need humanity to survive so they can reciprocate in the future.
How could anyone hate Toni? She's such a sweetheart. Now, to be honest, I'm a little scared of you 😄😄 but that's only because you remind me of some of my extended rural, country Florida boy family members I don't get along with. But Toni reminds me of those sweet midwestern ladies that are just kind to every soul she comes across. And the two of you together? Well, that's the relationship goals. Probably more old fashioned and traditional than me, but just lovely people.
Ian was upset at her for the choice she made, knowing what would happen, but that's the mind twisting thing... the choice was already made since time isn't linear. PS- that awesome song that just rips the emotion out of you is Max Richter's 'On The Nature Of Daylight'. This isn't the only movie it's used in, but it really hits in this one. PSS- it's really not a sad movie. If you think about it, with the point of the movie being that time is not linear... then her daughter's life was not long or short, happy or sad... it just was what it was. When you think in linear terms you of course would want time with your loved ones to be longer, not shorter... but what if time isn't linear? This is what makes this movie so interesting on so many levels. We get sci-fyi, we get a touching story of mother and daughter, we see the birth or romance with man and woman, we see the coming togther of all mankind in the unification they celebrate towards the end, we get aliens (always great to have, lol), but we also get this awesome mind-F trying to comprehend a non-linear time when humans really aren't capable of that. It's like trying to tell someone how big 100 million to the millionth power is, lol. We can state it's large, but humans aren't capable of understanding something of that size. Same here. We know non-linear time just means time is not on a straight line, with a start point and finish point that comes later, but we really can't comprehend what that exactly would look like, feel like, etc., so to tackle that in this movie as eloquently as they did, bringing Hannah's story in as something we can try to grab onto, makes this one of the great sci-fyi movies of all time, imo. :)
DON'T ever let her watch "Brian's Song" !!!! You'll put her in a coma !!!!! It's a sports movie of great friendship from I believe 1970 and you will put your wife in crying overload !!!! I'm an old grizzled up veteran and I get teary eyed every time I ever watched it !!!! An excellent story based on true events !!!!! The only one that may be even worse is the movie "Greater" so emotional !!!! Both are absolute true stories !!!!!
The whole construct of the conflict between Lousie and the man, Ian, is that she knew the future and had Hannah anyway. He wasn't told, he wasn't given an option. She wanted to enjoy every moment with Hannah even knowing she would outlive her daughter by a wide margin. (Remember Interstellar? "No one should watch their child die." - Murph to Cooper). The father wouldn't have had Hannah. Wouldn't have had to see her suffer and die. And would have avoided his own pain and suffering in watching her get ill and die. It's like the two of you with opposite views on knowing when you would die. And honestly, I think it's partly due to the difference between men and women. Women cherish the process of giving life and relish it, while men are somewhat bystanders. That's not intended to be derogatory (and I'm a man with 3 children). It's just how we are wired differently. Also, side note. Our oldest is named Hannah, but she preceded this movie by 10 years! But when we watched it, it was a wrecking ball. It's a great movie.
From my perspective, this movie is about the suffering and struggles of life. All the ups and downs, yet we carry on. We carry on knowing we will one day die, our kids one day will die. In 100 years time everyone on earth now, will die, and there will be other humans.... Knowing all this, we carry on to live.
Show Toni a good funny Don Knotts movie...PLEASE!! HUGZ Toni!! "The Ghost and Mr. Chicken", "The Incredible Mr. Limpet", "The Shakiest Gun In The West", "The Apple Dumpling Gang", " The Apple Dumpling Gang Rides Again" or "The Reluctant Astronaut". Any one of them is worth the watch!!
I’ve read the book this movie is based on and seen this movie a few times now. She knew that her child would die and that her husband would leave her and her child and she still decided to have the baby. Would you? Imagine if you were job and job knew that his entire family would die. Would you as job decide never to be born-- I think not.
I love this movie. And along the lines of what someone else said. She is choosing to still have Hannah despite knowing the future. But with this movie it wasnt just that she was seeing the future. But the past and present were no longer linear. She could be with her daughter at any point. So even if she missed her. She didn't have to just remember. She was experiencing the past, present and future at the same time. So she was able to experience time with her daughter and see her and touch her. She no longer saw anything as past or future.
We like to see Toni cry because we cry as much as she does. And it sucks when we show these movies to people we know and there's no emotional reaction from them, which sucks because it makes you think "don't you get the severity of what just happened, don't you have a soul, have you no emotion???" So when she cries that much it validates OUR emotions because we're FUCK, FINALLY SOMEONE GETS IT.
Awwww, we don't want you to cry, we want you to have the experience. Do you really regret watching anything you have watched? It's an experience, right?
I hope people will me more careful about what they suggest to watch. I hope you keep making movie reactions. I might be partly the time of year. For me, this time of year is the most difficult. Sadness fills me despite being on meds and in therapy. The world is a mean place. Thank you.
This movie helped some people cope with loss and grief. If you know you would lose someone you really love, would you choose not to meet or give birth to them because the grief and the loss you would experience in the end or cherish every beautiful moments while they last? Life isn't about the destination, it's the journey that matters.
I can see that. You are completely correct. I never wanted to have kids but now I wouldn't change a thing. I love my family and would be so sad and boring without them. -Toni 🤓
This
I am glad the themes in this movie was able to give you some closeure and coping mechanisms to deal with loss in life. ------- I myself found similar answers explored in the movie, but earlier in my life experiences. ------- This movie reinforced loads of my thoughts on life and loss.
My wife and i lost our son and our daughter. A stupid accident and a genetic disorder. I first saw this movie before both and i absolutely adore this movie. It speaks for me, although i think a lot of people couldnt grasp exactly how.
This has happened to me and my wife and i dont think of this movie as sad. Everyone and everything shall pass, each in their own way at their own time. To me this movie is life-affirming.
By the way, this movie is not about the arrival of aliens. It is about how we all arrive in our place in time.
The fact is. We will loss someone in the future right?? Nothing last forever
I don't see the ending as sad. I see it as hopeful. She's embracing the joy and saying that even though she knows bad things are coming, she also knows she's going to have love, and that makes it worth it.
That’s a very good point. - Toni 😊
Same. It's, if anything, a celebration of life... But it absolutely is divisive on that.
@@popculturallychallenged - If I watch a film that evokes strong emotions in me, I would hope it does the same in others too. If I see a reactor that has no emotion to it, it makes me kind of dislike their reactions (or lack thereof). A true emotional response is what we WANT to see, and your wife is great in these !!!
And also…
They saved the world through unity.
There’s that part, too.
i think we like to see Toni cry not in a negative way, but in a way that seems authentic and in my opinion it shows the power of storytelling in this medium. i appreciate that a film has the power to cause someone to express emotions on such a deep level, we love toni and its always a joy to see her react whether in a happy or sad light.
I'm so glad it's not out of hate... I starting fearing and getting a complex. -Toni 🤓
This is it exactly.
And we were there too, possibly proudly choking them back, so it's good for some of us to see another fully engage the emotions.
Came here to say this
It’s about catharsis. We, as human beings, can experience empathy through shared experiences. It also validates our own emotions. It’s part of the magic of watching a movie in a cinema instead of alone in your basement. The feels are different. So, when we watch you laugh, or be amazed, or even cry, we feel a shared bond with you. That’s a part of our desire for social connection.
That’s my long-winded way of saying the reason it’s “fun” to watch you cry is because it creates a connection, which we thank you for. Not at all because of any negative feelings. 😊
This movie is a masterpiece. I remember literally sitting on the edge of my seat in the theater. It gets better every time I watch it. So many clues and other things to melt your brain. Every frame is perfect. Denis Villeneuve is a sci-fi wizard.
Indeed, this is a movie that is surprisingly better on the second watch, as you start to view it like how Louis does, a story that you already know from start to finish. Yet you would still find little details here and there that enhances the storytelling even more since you already know the entire story.
Very well said! - Toni 🤓
I noticed one frame a bit ago and keep mentioning it on other people's reactions to this movie 😅.
In the intro, when Louise is going after Hannah with her "tickle guns", Hannah is dressed like a cowgirl complete with horse.
The last frame of that has Hannah spinning around in the background out of focus. And in it, she has the silhouette of a Heptapod.
I should look up more movies from Villeneuve.
Btw, has anyone ever wondered how did they get back down from the ship?
(I know, some might be thinking, the same way they came - but think about it - how could they gauge their “jumping back down”?) Its working against gravity vs working with gravity…
The General's wife’s last words are “In war there are no winners, only widows.”
"In war there are no heroes, only orphans and widows."
She cries because she's a kind soul it's a good sign.
It’s hard to keep it in…. Thank you for watching with us and your kind words. - Toni 🥰
This movie is only sad if you focus on the premature death of her child. If you focus on the fact that she was able to have a child and love her and be loved by her, it is a joyful movie. Knowing when her child would die means that she maximized her time with her daughter. If you ask any parent who has a child that has died if they would want to erase the existence of that child to save themselves the pain of the death, I don’t think any would.
We only consider this movie sad because we focus on what we think should happen (a long life) instead of the gift we’ve already received (a life).
The two of you said you wouldn’t want to know when your child dies. I assume you have not lost a child. If you had already lost a child, I’m guessing you would answer differently. If you knew beforehand, you would be able to say goodbye and to tell that child how much he/she is loved. Wouldn’t that be a gift?
I love this movie because it poses some great philosophical questions and forces us to look at things from a different perspective.
Excellent points.
Toni, the only reason someone would want to make you cry is so they don’t have to cry alone. Love you both! I think this movie is what it would actually be like to meet aliens.
i'm glad I'm not alone... -Toni 😊
@popculturallychallenged this film also made me cry, it shows you have a big heart and that's a wonderful thing to possess as a human being. Be proud that you're an empathetic person, as empathy seems to be a dying emotion in today's world.
The depth of writing, ingenious editing, the purposeful imagery and supremely rich dialogue have created one of the most significant revelations in a film over the last few decades. “Who is this child” sent shockwaves through me at first watch because you realize they were flash-forwards. This movie still sticks with me and impacts my perspective since seeing it in the theater in 2016. I was fortunate to meet the cinematographer Bradford Young in 2022 (look him up-you’ll be impressed with his impressive career). I was able to tell him how much this film and its intelligence and symbolism affected me.
I love this movie. I agree with Toni that the ending was hopeful. Having lost a child myself, I appreciate your perspective that going through that situation is the worst. It is terrible, but everyone dies and we have no control over the timing. I'd say the bigger tragedy is not living, or to phrase it a different way, living in so much fear of being hurt that the beautiful moments of life are missed. I treasure the time I had with my son, and I wouldn't be the man I am now without going through that. It didn't break me; it made me better. Unless we put ourselves in situations that could potentially hurt us, we aren't the people we could be. Go out! Take chances. Fall in love! Get hurt and do it again! Be the best version of yourself today. Even if you start out faking it, eventually you become the person you always wished you were.
Well put, sir. I'm sorry for your loss.
This reminds me of an old Reddit post about a man explaining grief. Sorry for the long response but what he wrote really resonated with me.
"Alright, here goes. I'm old. What that means is that I've survived (so far) and a lot of people I've known and loved did not. I've lost friends, best friends, acquaintances, co-workers, grandparents, mom, relatives, teachers, mentors, students, neighbors, and a host of other folks. I have no children, and I can't imagine the pain it must be to lose a child. But here's my two cents.
I wish I could say you get used to people dying. I never did. I don't want to. It tears a hole through me whenever somebody I love dies, no matter the circumstances. But I don't want it to "not matter". I don't want it to be something that just passes. My scars are a testament to the love and the relationship that I had for and with that person. And if the scar is deep, so was the love. So be it. Scars are a testament to life. Scars are a testament that I can love deeply and live deeply and be cut, or even gouged, and that I can heal and continue to live and continue to love. And the scar tissue is stronger than the original flesh ever was. Scars are a testament to life. Scars are only ugly to people who can't see.
As for grief, you'll find it comes in waves. When the ship is first wrecked, you're drowning, with wreckage all around you. Everything floating around you reminds you of the beauty and the magnificence of the ship that was, and is no more. And all you can do is float. You find some piece of the wreckage and you hang on for a while. Maybe it's some physical thing. Maybe it's a happy memory or a photograph. Maybe it's a person who is also floating. For a while, all you can do is float. Stay alive.
In the beginning, the waves are 100 feet tall and crash over you without mercy. They come 10 seconds apart and don't even give you time to catch your breath. All you can do is hang on and float. After a while, maybe weeks, maybe months, you'll find the waves are still 100 feet tall, but they come further apart. When they come, they still crash all over you and wipe you out. But in between, you can breathe, you can function. You never know what's going to trigger the grief. It might be a song, a picture, a street intersection, the smell of a cup of coffee. It can be just about anything...and the wave comes crashing. But in between waves, there is life.
Somewhere down the line, and it's different for everybody, you find that the waves are only 80 feet tall. Or 50 feet tall. And while they still come, they come further apart. You can see them coming. An anniversary, a birthday, or Christmas, or landing at O'Hare. You can see it coming, for the most part, and prepare yourself. And when it washes over you, you know that somehow you will, again, come out the other side. Soaking wet, sputtering, still hanging on to some tiny piece of the wreckage, but you'll come out.
Take it from an old guy. The waves never stop coming, and somehow you don't really want them to. But you learn that you'll survive them. And other waves will come. And you'll survive them too. If you're lucky, you'll have lots of scars from lots of loves. And lots of shipwrecks."
So sorry for you loss. I have to say you are my new hero. I loved your words @jasonlooney and @ZeddOz. - Toni
I personally think this is one of the best movies in its genre, it really stayed with me after watching it.
Easily one of the five best sci-fi movies of all time. Absolute masterpiece 💔
One thing that strikes me is that memories of Hannah's entire life are always present for Louise. Because she knows the outcome and because of her perspective of time, she enjoys every happy moment with Hannah simultaneously with every sad moment.
That is what perceiving non-linearity means. You perceive all of it, at any moment you focus on. And to decide to not to have that child would mean to erase it from the reality and loose all the good memories as well. Who would do that?
The movie is about loss and grief, but also acceptance. She knows the outcome but chooses to go through it because of love.
The movie is a representative the name Hannah. Watching the movie forwards and backwards and all the clues and connections come together. She turned her tragic situation into a loving appreciating everyday of her daughter’s existence.
Very well said!! - Toni 🤓
Arrival is simply a masterpiece.
The aliens said needed humanity's help in a couple of thousands of years, because by then humans would be so advanced that we can probably save interstellar civilizations. They knew this because of how their minds work, and understanding their language was the key for us to advance and know the events that will happen to their world and our world..
The clue early on is that the British fellow talking to Ian says that the aliens cannot understand algebra. Algebra is linear and the aliens are not. They need us in the future to solve a problem for them that requires linear thinking.
We don't hate you, Toni. We just love seeing someone who feels such deep empathy.
My favorite movie. I'm a parent to young kids (they were really young when I first saw this) and my career has been in communication. This movie speaks to me, and I ugly cry every single time I watch it. Heck, I have tears drying on my face just from watching this reaction. Great reaction by the way. It's nice seeing someone get as emotional as I do over this masterpiece.
“Daddy said I made the wrong decision.” Clutches the pearls
With time being non-linear, Louise has the choice to live the wonderful moments over and over. The joy and enriched nature her daughter brought to world, even if for a short "time" was worth it.
You guys should watch Edge of Tomorrow next, it's a great sci-fi movie, it's quite the adventure and I don't think anyone would call it sad.
Let’s send Toni some happy movies to watch!!
No headaches !!
Thank you, I get headaches even not watching movies. I must have needed more sun today because my head is killing me today. - Toni 😊
She chooses to have her daughter despite knowing she will die young because it’s not about the ending, it’s about the journey. The love she has for her daughter and the time they had together will always outweigh the pain of loosing her. It’s better to have loved and lost, than never to have loved at all.
Well said, thank you for the reminder. - Toni 🙂
Well this movie set the record for the fastest tears, hands down! This was a surprising movie to be sure
The way I interpreted this movie, the alien species saw humanity on a path of self-destruction leading to our annihilation. They saw in their own future that they were going to need the help of the human race so they intervened to set us on a new path to ensure that we survived.
I was almost crying with you at 2:50 but then you said "I wasnt even attached" and I laughed so hard hahha
As a single dad of daughters that are my life, my baby being Hannah’s age and also having just lost my my to a brutal cancer so fast and so unexpectedly , this broke me the same way “interstellar” did and I’ve seen a lot of people talk about the choice she made saying they would choose to NOT have the baby and I think many must not have children of their own or not considering what that would mean to chose to not have your baby. Having a “Hannah” of my own who is everything to me and having experinced some horrific things in life , I know it all put me where I am in life which also gave me my daughters. I’d go to hell and back to have my daughters in my life and I try with all I am to be the most amazing dad I can possibly be for my girls , make them feel how incredibly much they mean to me and the thought of not only not having them here but never existing , ever , in all of eternity so she doesn’t the desease in the end , I could Bebe do to her and couldn’t live with myself either. Just before my mom passed she told us though her life was ending so much sooner than she hoped, that marrying my dad and having raised all of her children and seen them marry and have babies has been an amazing life , that she’s the luckiest woman on earth. For her to say that during chemo of a cancer that was taking her life showed me how much we truly mean to her. that means if she had the choice to not have to experince cancer and pass away but shed never exist and experience all that made her happy, so someone elze chosing to not let her be born thinking they were saving her from pain denied her all the happiness she experineced in her life to save her 3 months of cancer. its not what my mom would want, ahed do it a million times over to jist meet my dad alone. similarly with my daughters being my life and the pain that would come frim losing any of them, the thought of not having one of my daughters is unbearable and in reality it woukd mean she never exists in all of time , id be denying her life, all the amazing exoerinces and my love for her . id experince a life of hell over and over to have my baby for a day verses never. if you could stop a terrible experience frim happening years away but had to give the years of amazing love and experinces it brings , you may be saving that heartache down the road but also not having the greatest happiness in life. i can understand tho if someones not had children becasue i could never have comprehended tye experimce of being a father to my babies or the Love i have for them, how amaxing it feels when they simply say i love you . before i had them i didnt know how much i wad missing in my life . just my opinion. the comments saying shes selfish for having Hannah anyway , they dont understand . the writer of the story clearly has children to write thst she has the baby. she sees the future so she knows she doesnt tell jeremy renners character and they have hannah, chosing to tell him prior instead may lead to not having her so i think she makes the same choices so she has hannah .
if i lost my child to cancer and my wife came to me and said she saw this happen and didnt tell me ,..i couldnt blame her for making her choices because again, thw option is that baby i love so amazingly much wouldnt exist nor the memories i have and if she worried telling me prior to having a baby might stop it frim happening so she kept it to herself , i can 100% understand. i dont understand him leaving his wifd he loves, hannahs mom and breaking hannahs life apart , her family , the pain and sadness that comes to hannah for thst and not ecperiencing a childhood with mom and dad always around is selfish in my opinion . we see hannah sad when shes sad and confused aboug him leaving and that shes hurt and upset when she says it doesnt matter its not real , thats hurt. having been divorced and knowing the difficulty thats been on my babies , to put them through that for his reasons is making a decision that puts my babies in a heartbreaking situation for them because im mad at what she said? or that she waited to tell me? that is just disapointing to hear in the movie. i mean the heartbreak and grief hes experincing is real, but he loves his wife and his baby is still here and still so young, all id want is to spend every moment i could with my baby and give her that family experience all her days , not cut doen oue time together to weekends. in my head he comes back because he imagines what hed of missed out on had she chose to not and hed never have known his angel , shed never had had life and the amazing years she did , so he appologises and moves back amd they spend those years happy with hannah .
interesting thought experiment
In fact, what we look for in reaction videos is really an emotional reaction. I believe that Toni reacts naturally and no one can criticize her for this, so we like the channel and we like the couple's reactions and comments.
I am definitely in that camp of thinking this is one of the top movies I have ever seen. So much heartbreak, beauty and hope all balled up in one. Loosing a child is the most devastating thing that can happen to a person and to know it's going to happen and continue down that path . . . ♥
This was one of my favorite movies. It's hard to understand that it was going back and forth in time but once you see that, it makes so much sense. Such an under rated movie.
How is it underrated?
@@kuhpunkt Despite the movie getting 8 Oscar nominations (including best picture and director), Amy Adams was left out, despite how well and believably she carried this movie (I thought great performances all around). The only Oscar win was for sound editing
@@anorthosite And that makes it underrated how exactly? It's critically acclaimed, hailed as one of the great movie of the past few years and as you said got 8 Oscar nominations. That's incredible.
Underrated means it's better than people give it credit...
@@kuhpunkt My Point: Amy Adams was Phenomenal. Nothing more.
This movie was the biggest surprise in 2018 for me when I bought this movie on UHD DVD thinking it was an alien invasion action movie. Ohhh how wrong I was... this movie was so deep and touched my soul. People who lost someone close, or someone who knows the devotion and sacrifice in giving a birth and loving a child... this was so so deep and made me cherish people that I love around me. Now I have my 6 yr old son, doesn't matter what happens to us, I will never abandon what I have, had and will have... this movie really empowers me to live on being grateful. And I have to mention, Max Richter's music scores were cherry on top.
Aww, you two are so sweet. I love how you comfort your wife when she cries and I can see you tearing up too. ❤
Toni is destroyed in every movie 😘
Nobody hates Toni, it's honest movie reaction and when it's honest, it's authentic.
Toni, no one could ever hate you. Your crying is genuine feelings, not like some others that cry for the camera. David, I love your discussions at the end. You put a lot of thought into what you say, unlike some others that open wide and let it fly. Also, I think many viewers miss the fact that the ‘husband that left’ was Jeremy Renner, who couldn’t deal with the pending death of their daughter. Knowing the future is not a pleasant thing. We all would face that knowledge differently.
Ok, haven't clicked play yet, but knowing how I, a grown ass man, cry like a baby EVERY TIME i watch this movie, I foresee Toni's floodgates opening. Brb, will update later 😁
Update: Thank you for not disappointing 😁💙 And no Toni, is not out of hate at all. Quite the opposite indeed, it's about the affaction and the human connection so please don't feel bad. It's refreshing seeing reactors connecting deeply like you guys do whereas most reaction channels are just loud or uninteresting, fake, or copy-paste. So Thank you for enduring the headaches and please don't stop, maybe slow down on the sad stuff? lol.
Personally I love this movie, hits you in every way: it's mind bending with the language time trivel and gut wrenching with the true real human emotions and dilemmas. Denis Villeneuve has quickly become one of my favorite sci-fi directors of all time, his other recent movies Blade Runner:2049 and Dune are also a real pleasure to watch even if not on Arrival level. As a sci-fi and language nerd, this movie hit all the right spots for me lol.
This is the kind of movie that sits with you a long time after you watched it, that for me is the hallmark of a good movie. Not like Gravity of which dear Toni gave the most unintended, yet brutally honest review "Gravity? I already forgot about Gravity".
I'm sure you won't forget so easily about Arrival
The central question is, knowing how Hannah dies, would you give up the joy of her being in your life?
Its the whole... better to love and lost than never loved im the first place
I would definitely not give up on the joy of her being in our life but I think i would cry daily in private and try to make her life so full of fun and happiness that she would keep those memories for EVER. I loved it when her mom told her she was unstoppable!! Even though I'm blessed to have healthy kids, I take for granted and don't make their life's the best they can be by bringing them joy on a daily basis.... (feeling guilty at the moment in always getting after them to clean their room) is it really that important? -Toni 🥰
You're making them better even in the cleaning of their rooms, esp because of it. If they had short lives which ended up lazy or spoiled I'd wonder if I couldn't have done better by them.@@popculturallychallenged
That makes sense too and is so true. - Toni 🥰
The interesting bit that a lot of people miss is that Abbott and Costello could always understand english. And they knew Abbott would die. But they did what they did anyway. They werent following a process. Thats the wrong way to see it. They were going with the flow - or more correctly, the lack of flow - of time. They see everything as a ‘now’. The movie says ‘louise sees future’ but that’s because the english language has no language to describe the concept involved - the same way you assume both of the heptapods are male because they are given male names.
I saw this in theaters a few months after my brother’s passing when he was 20 years old. I had to stay during the end credits to cry in peace and then compose myself. It was that impactful.
Once she learns the heptapod's language, she can see all of her life, past, present, and future at will. Which means she can relive all parts of her daughter's life at all times. Her daughter's name is Hannah, which is a palindrome, and so is read the same forward and backward.
6:00 low cloud going over mountains, being dragged downwards by the wind that would also be flowing downwards after passing the mountains.
Whenever I watch reactions to films like _Train to Busan, The Green Mile, Saving Private Ryan_ etc, I'm in the mood to purge some tears. Since I'm a sympathetic cryer, haha, seeing the reactors I love cry does the trick. Sharing my beloved reactors' tears - and laughter, and jump-scares and wonder - is what I subscribe for. We don't hate you Toni, we love and appreciate you. 💝
“ the Sanskrit word for war”
Her response was, “a desire for more cows.“
I just discovered this movie in 2023 with all of the tension overseas, it could apply to so much.
This one in awards for best sound.
The interesting bit that a lot of people miss is that Abbott and Costello could always understand english. And they knew Abbott would die. But they did what they did anyway. They werent following a process. Thats the wrong way to see it. They were going with the flow - or more correctly, the lack of flow - of time.
I think just seeing people with open emotion is a rare thing now. The world is so shut down that it's hard to find.
Thank you for watching with us. - Toni ☺️
Your crying reveals you have a beautiful heart. Both of you.
Aww Toni :) Very honest and direct as always. Admirable! My humble recommendation: just enjoy movies you pick. And hoping maybe you gonna watch one day Manchester by the Sea.
Take care
I belive, that since Hanna's sickness was described as rare, her death might have lead to discoveries that in the future took mankind to the stars, and in three thousand years we were able to help those that once came to us. The gift is that instead of just remembering the past she remembers her whole life past, present and future. Great reaction to an amazing movie.
You have to ask whether Louise can actually change anything. Those future events may be as unchangeable as past events. Future memories that are no different to past memories.
But even if she could change things then is it fair to expect her to not have those 12 wonder years of a relationship with her daughter? It would effectively be taking something good out of the universe to change things.
I accept that many, myself included I guess, would see having future memories like Louise can as a curse rather than a gift.
In general I think Arrival is a wonderful movie in every aspect. Gorgeous and consistent visuals, beautiful sound and music, great acting, tense and surprising. Just great film making.
It’s a beautiful ending, through the weapon (gift) the Mother and daughter bond was already there. So she had to bring Hannah into the world
That was so hard to watch…. I understand but it broke my heart! - Toni 😢
Arrival is my favorite film. I'm a big fan of the way Denis Villeneuve tells his stories. I like how a lot of his films have female characters that can carry the story. I feel that this is the best performance so far by Amy Adams. She always comes across as intelligent and full of empathy. There is definite sadness, but I think it makes the viewer consider the big questions in life as you both did. In a way, it might encourage some to treasure the moments they currently take for granted. We can't see the future so we have to give our lives meaning without knowing what is to come. When Louise tells Hannah that she is unstoppable, is that telling the audience that Louise doesn't have a choice about whether to bring Hannah into the world? Or is she saying that it's the only choice she would ever have made perhaps? I'm glad someone in the comments looked at this from the point of view of the aliens. Abbott knew this was a one way trip and chose to make it anyway. I've watched every reaction I can find for this movie and the vast majority of people feel threatened and would be afraid to go on the ship because of how sci-fi movies usually depict aliens as hostile. Some would even attack the aliens even though they don't make any kind of threatening move at any point. Can you imagine what it would take to unite the world in reality? I thought the whole story was beautiful and moving. If I were about to have a baby girl, I would definitely name her Hannah. Thanks for watching. And Toni, I can't imagine anyone hating you. We just like seeing honest people who can be moved. David will always be there to reassure you. Repeat viewings add something to the experience. I must have seen the film 30 times. I would definitely choose to know when I am going to die; partly to say goodbye to loved ones, but also to make sure I didn't waste my last couple of years working. I enjoyed your discussion at the end.
Our oldest is Hannah, but she's 10 years older than the movie. It still hurt, alot, when we watched this together.
@@clarkbarrett6274 Hopefully it makes you treasure your time together even more.
This is my favorite science ficiton movie. I have always considered the end hopeful. Not only for the humantiy but for main character as well. She learned to appreciate the journey instead of the results. And her husband disagreed with her choice to have a kid knowing that she would suffer and die early. But she is prepared to take the hurt to experience the joy of life, companionship and motherhood, despite all of those things ending early.
I've seen this movie many times and watched a lot of reactions. It still brings me to tears every time. And much like Louise says, "Despite knowing the journey... and where it leads... I embrace it. And I welcome every moment of it."
It's worth noting that on a second watch, you realise the opening monologue is from her perspective after everything with lines like "But now I'm not so sure I believe in beginnings and endings"
Hey David and Toni, I know the movie didn't have an upbeat ending. --------- I think the bitter sweet end matched the tone of the movie. ---------- I think it had a deep philosophical message to impart to the audience. That we should enjoy life to the fullest, the good and the bad. ------- Some of the worst times in my life have made me super creative at dealing with problems in life. ------- If I was to change those moments I would not be the person I am today. ------ It's such a difficult conundrum to deal with.
I cry every time I watch this movie. But it essentially attempts to provide one answer to unanswerable questions (what do we do with meaning making and cancer, etc?). Plus it’s remarkable story telling.
Yes, this movie is heartbreakingly sad, but its also incredibly beautiful. BTW we only love it when you cry because we're crying and it feels good to have someone to cry with.
Just FYI the no sleeping with a concussion thing is outdated. You just make sure they don't go too heavy and for symptoms that indicate brain bleed. Sleep is healthy.
If you think about it, Louise isn't choosing to have her daughter anyway, knowing what will happen. For Louise, her daughter's life is a lived experience for her, since she no longer experiences time linearly. She wouldn't be choosing to not have that future. She would be erasing the lived experience she now has of her daughter's life from the gift of the alien language. She chooses at the end to embrace it.
And Ian's inability to stay once she finally tells him as the time draws nearer to their daughter's illness makes sense from his perspective as he doesn't experience time the way she now does. A beautifully crafted film that makes perfect use of Max Richter's On The Nature Of Daylight for the opening and closing scenes.
It wasn't heartbreaking, it was Joy! All we have is this moment. The only reason one feels missing or loss, is because one had got to feel love and life. To see it as sad is to miss the point. Would give up your children, not have them ever been born just to avoid sadness? Give me my children let them live. In this case, she sees the future, so I don't think the daughter dies. They find the cure. Remember, it wasn't a weapon... it was a gift
One sign of a good movie: When it generates serious discussion as soon as it ends.
They showed Hannah in the beginning because the weapon was in play. From the beginning of the movie to the end.
Louis says why it's a "happy" ending; "Despite knowing where the journey ends, I embrace it." which means she's ok with still having her kid and experiencing raising her, loving her. Despite your preferences, it'a happy ending for her.
We all connect with Toni, sometimes she cries at the same moments I cried when I first watched the movie. Sometimes I've cried rewatching with you both!
Also many times she was crying in scenes I didn't but that's why we all love her! 😂
Always love both of your reactions on here! Keep em coming 😇
They show the daughter at the beginning because the movie is non-linear Just like their language. And the reason we only see the “flashbacks” later on in the movie is because when lousis is learning the language you start to be able to perceive time they way the aliens do.
All relationships are a mix of good and bad experiences (as are all lives). The question is would you, knowing about the bad things to come, choose a different path and also sacrifice all the good experiences. In the end you would simply be exchanging all those experiences-good and bad-for others. There would still be joy and still be grief. The movie really comes down to exploring the human experience.
A magnificent story. This one hits me as hard as it hits Toni.
Hang in there Toni! We appreciate and thank you both!
Thank you so much! - Toni🥰
We like to see people feel the same emotions that we felt Toni. It's a sharing of the human condition.
My theory on why we like to see Toni cry is that it's so rare to see real, genuine empathy and vulnerability, and it's something people deeply crave. There's so much callousness in the world, so much emphasis on having "thick skin" or, when we're sad, either dissociating or lashing out in anger... instead of allowing sadness to be; to let it out. When we see Toni cry, it feels safe for us to cry; to feel. It feels like a safe space (:
It's not cause we hate you Toni! It's because we want to be more like you (: And wish there were more people like you in the world. And, hopefully, by seeing more expressions of sincerity, your viewers (myself included) will find it easier to tap into our own tears and emote without shame. (And show others that it's okay and healthy, so that they start doing the same, and so on, and so on....)
Thank you so much!
We don't hate you Toni. If anything, i kind of hate myself a bit for putting you through this in a way :) And i hate headaches, so i pity even more. On the movie, yeah, one of the saddest ones, but personally it still feels uplifting. It is hard to express why though. Maybe the thing that you can feel such sadness makes you feel more human. Also, they managed to get people work together. Aliens need help of whole humanity in 3000 years, that's why they tried to bring people to work with each other. But they had problems conveying things to people, until they managed to teach her their language. The twist is indeed shocking. And also the time paradox (she took the number and what to say from her future). Along with general style, visuals, music, one of the best movies for me.
I affirm also that we love Toni, and that it is impossible to do otherwise. This is one of my favorite movies. The character of Amy Adams plays is a favorite of mine because she is so quiet, cool headed, human, and intelligent. I found the interaction between humans and Heptapods so engaging that I did not see this as a sad movie.
It was definitely an intelligent movie but very sad to me. - Toni 😊
I don’t think this was so much about knowing…
I think the beauty, the utterly, starkly painful beauty of this movie is not knowing you will lose your child, it’s just the love of being a mother. I imagine she must have loved this child so hard, so fully.
Before having my girl, I saw this moving mir and said: ain’t no way I’d do this.
Now that I have her I’d do the exact same thing.
8:11 A beautiful sigh of anticipation and trepidation.
Think of the alien that came to Earth knowing he's gonna die, but being aware their mission is so important and worth it, teaching humanity their language... if you go back and watch the movie again you'll see how that Abbot was more reluctant, came to the window much slower before the explosion...
Interesting, I will definitely take a second look. - Toni 🤓
Even knowing that her daughter would die young she still gave her life, that is true love,
She's crying again, dude stop it please! Christmas is coming up so please cheer her up ahahahha. It breaks my heart 😄😄😄
To Toni: I think strong emotions make us feel more alive and connected with each other, when those emotions are shared. That's why people like to recommend these strong, mixed feelings movies to you. not to torture, but to share these amazing (in good and bad ways) with you.
It's interesting to me, you two mirror the movie couple by the end of this movie. Toni mirrors Louise, accepting the knowledge and making the best out of it. and your husband mirrors Ian, who couldn't deal with the knowledge of the future as easily.
And this is probably also why he struggles more with the ending.
To me, this is not about the end of Louise's daughter's life, but all about that question she asks: if you could see your whole life, would you change things?
As for the aliens, they need humans to work together, so we worry more about evolving ourselves and our technology instead of just killing each other all the time for petty reasons.
I feel Toni needs a laugh and cheering up, so may I suggest in my opinion one of the funniest movies I have ever seen by one of the greatest comedy duos ever the movie is "HERE NO EVIL SEE NO EVIL" STARRING GENE WILDER & RICHARD PRYOR.👍☺☺☺☺☺☺
2:58 me too 😭 even though I have watched dozens of reactions of Arrival it still gets me. I LOOOVE this movie and it brought me to your channel ❤❤ sending love to you and yours from Orlando Florida
Thank you!
I do believe this was a happy ending. The fact that Louise Banks is the key for humanity to finally find peace (General Shang used the word ‘unification’) is the happiness, although for her and Ian it was tinged by her knowledge of seeing time as non-linear, and knowing everything from beginning to end - the good and the bad. I’m only sorry that David didn’t see to enjoy it.
The "Challenged" part of your channel name is spot on.
David made a wise choice. - Toni 😂
There is no happy or unhappy ending: there is just our lives, our freedom and our loved ones. And that is what she chose. Deleting her daughter's life to suppress pain was not an option for her.
It's not like you never have discussions at the end about the movie, but I think this one is your most in-depth one. Asking all those questions and what you would do. Isn't that the greatest thing?
That was very heart felt.... - Toni 😊
Even looking purely at the language translation aspect, this is one of the most intelligent films I’ve ever seen. Most people have NO CLUE how difficult it would be to actually communicate with an alien species, and I applaud this movie for taking the time to underscore how painfully slow and methodical that would be.
While there is an obviously sad aspect to the ending its not simply that. The fact is the woman still chose to have the daughter despite knowing the outcome because there was still value in the girls life. If you consider that every kid eventually dies despite growing up the movie poses the question about the worth of life. If some people think she should have avoided having the kid because it would die does this mean nobody should have any kids because they will also eventually die? It also raises questions about kids who are born with disease or disability in the same vein. The movie did what it was supposed to do which is to trigger emotion and make you think and it did both. Also I dont think the aliens were just here to save humanity, they were telling the truth in that they need humanity to survive so they can reciprocate in the future.
How could anyone hate Toni? She's such a sweetheart. Now, to be honest, I'm a little scared of you 😄😄 but that's only because you remind me of some of my extended rural, country Florida boy family members I don't get along with. But Toni reminds me of those sweet midwestern ladies that are just kind to every soul she comes across. And the two of you together? Well, that's the relationship goals. Probably more old fashioned and traditional than me, but just lovely people.
Ian was upset at her for the choice she made, knowing what would happen, but that's the mind twisting thing... the choice was already made since time isn't linear. PS- that awesome song that just rips the emotion out of you is Max Richter's 'On The Nature Of Daylight'. This isn't the only movie it's used in, but it really hits in this one. PSS- it's really not a sad movie. If you think about it, with the point of the movie being that time is not linear... then her daughter's life was not long or short, happy or sad... it just was what it was. When you think in linear terms you of course would want time with your loved ones to be longer, not shorter... but what if time isn't linear? This is what makes this movie so interesting on so many levels. We get sci-fyi, we get a touching story of mother and daughter, we see the birth or romance with man and woman, we see the coming togther of all mankind in the unification they celebrate towards the end, we get aliens (always great to have, lol), but we also get this awesome mind-F trying to comprehend a non-linear time when humans really aren't capable of that. It's like trying to tell someone how big 100 million to the millionth power is, lol. We can state it's large, but humans aren't capable of understanding something of that size. Same here. We know non-linear time just means time is not on a straight line, with a start point and finish point that comes later, but we really can't comprehend what that exactly would look like, feel like, etc., so to tackle that in this movie as eloquently as they did, bringing Hannah's story in as something we can try to grab onto, makes this one of the great sci-fyi movies of all time, imo. :)
Underrated movie right here
DON'T ever let her watch "Brian's Song" !!!! You'll put her in a coma !!!!! It's a sports movie of great friendship from I believe 1970 and you will put your wife in crying overload !!!! I'm an old grizzled up veteran and I get teary eyed every time I ever watched it !!!! An excellent story based on true events !!!!! The only one that may be even worse is the movie "Greater" so emotional !!!! Both are absolute true stories !!!!!
The whole construct of the conflict between Lousie and the man, Ian, is that she knew the future and had Hannah anyway. He wasn't told, he wasn't given an option. She wanted to enjoy every moment with Hannah even knowing she would outlive her daughter by a wide margin. (Remember Interstellar? "No one should watch their child die." - Murph to Cooper).
The father wouldn't have had Hannah. Wouldn't have had to see her suffer and die. And would have avoided his own pain and suffering in watching her get ill and die.
It's like the two of you with opposite views on knowing when you would die.
And honestly, I think it's partly due to the difference between men and women. Women cherish the process of giving life and relish it, while men are somewhat bystanders. That's not intended to be derogatory (and I'm a man with 3 children). It's just how we are wired differently.
Also, side note. Our oldest is named Hannah, but she preceded this movie by 10 years! But when we watched it, it was a wrecking ball.
It's a great movie.
From my perspective, this movie is about the suffering and struggles of life. All the ups and downs, yet we carry on. We carry on knowing we will one day die, our kids one day will die. In 100 years time everyone on earth now, will die, and there will be other humans....
Knowing all this, we carry on to live.
one of my all time favorites
Show Toni a good funny Don Knotts movie...PLEASE!! HUGZ Toni!! "The Ghost and Mr. Chicken", "The Incredible Mr. Limpet", "The Shakiest Gun In The West", "The Apple Dumpling Gang", " The Apple Dumpling Gang Rides Again" or "The Reluctant Astronaut". Any one of them is worth the watch!!
I’ve read the book this movie is based on and seen this movie a few times now. She knew that her child would die and that her husband would leave her and her child and she still decided to have the baby. Would you? Imagine if you were job and job knew that his entire family would die. Would you as job decide never to be born-- I think not.
I'm so glad it's not a decision I'll ever have to make..... - Toni 🤓
I love this movie. And along the lines of what someone else said. She is choosing to still have Hannah despite knowing the future. But with this movie it wasnt just that she was seeing the future. But the past and present were no longer linear. She could be with her daughter at any point. So even if she missed her. She didn't have to just remember. She was experiencing the past, present and future at the same time. So she was able to experience time with her daughter and see her and touch her. She no longer saw anything as past or future.
But is it actually her choice to still have Hannah? If it's predetermined... tricky.
We like to see Toni cry because we cry as much as she does. And it sucks when we show these movies to people we know and there's no emotional reaction from them, which sucks because it makes you think "don't you get the severity of what just happened, don't you have a soul, have you no emotion???" So when she cries that much it validates OUR emotions because we're FUCK, FINALLY SOMEONE GETS IT.
People love you Toni. Honest tears are a beautiful thing. I think this is a beautiful movie.
Awwww, we don't want you to cry, we want you to have the experience. Do you really regret watching anything you have watched? It's an experience, right?
I hope people will me more careful about what they suggest to watch. I hope you keep making movie reactions. I might be partly the time of year. For me, this time of year is the most difficult. Sadness fills me despite being on meds and in therapy. The world is a mean place. Thank you.
this film is so profoundly moving, the only film that makes you experience pure joy and grief at the same time
I was thinking this was for "The Arrival" from 1996 with Charlie Sheen.