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i swear basically any video of an unintentional (or unplanned) landing with a paraglider always ends in a tree... even if there are no trees around, one will suddenly grow XD it's as if they're trying to catch you.
Thank you for sharing, you made the right decision to land when it started to rain....bad luck with the collapse, great insight to throw the silk...glad you are safe and well. Cheers.
Wow! Thank you for posting as this has emphasised to me the dangers of flying in rain. We're all guilty now and again of trying to push our luck and guess luck was on your your side. Well done for managing this situation in the right way!
Nothing to do with weather, everything to do with half wrap on brake and holding too much brake input during spiral recovery surge, glider never allowed to fly until hand is released from brake when reserve is reached for. Glider fly's again fine after brakes are released to through reserve. Common problem, predictable outcome.
God bless you sir I'm just learning how to ground handle my epsilon 9 and I I'm on the very top of the weight range I'm going to fly a trim speed and keep my hands up as much as I can. I'm going to avoid spiral diving as much as possible.
What was the weather condition? windy? lessons you learned? (Share the mistakes please)... if you are not the original owner of this video.. please at least give us the link to the original source(owner)
Rain increases stall speed. As a prohylactic measure, you could have pushed the bar to avoid parachutal stall. You will not always have a tree or plenty space below you the next time it occurs.
Ehrlich. Ich kannte das Video nicht aber gleich zu beginn habe ich das knistern gehört und dachte mir das regnet doch! Hier an dieser stelle ist eine gute Beratung vom Wetterdienst erforderlich. Das senkt das Risikomanagement! Bei solchen bedingungen wäre ich nie geflogen ! Nicht mal wenn ich runter laufen müsste! Hast nochmal Glück gehabt! Ps. Bin im Besitz eines A-scheins, B- Scheins und eines Motorschirmscheins. fliege seit 2012 und mir ist noch nie was passiert! Also immer dran denken Happy landings!
Grazie per la condivisione di questa esperienza. Molti atleti del parapendio possono salvare la vita seguendo i tuoi consigli. Buona fortuna in qualsiasi modo desiderato.
it was a parachutal stall? i am curious about which glider is this and also if does anyone of your team mates face similar issues during the landing... the tree save you from the power lines just a few meter ahead... good atitude throwing the reserve and neutralizing the canopy
Massimo, great that you got down safely (and that you missed those power lines). I have so many questions. Why did you spiral down - was it rain? Did you hit some form of shear or low-level turbulence? Please explain in English. Thanks in advance!
It's started raining too much.. so I decided to go down in spiral, but after 2-3 seconds of "normal flight" after the spiral, the wing was too soaked and starded to collapse (parachute stall.. I don't know exactly in English, sorry) ;)
Yes, they landed without big problems! My second mistake (after flying with rain) was the spiral to go down faster.. because the wing (totally wet) after this, didn't have speed and started to collapse.
***** After the spiral his leading edge would probably be the wettest and Heaviest part of the wing. Using the speed bar without good air speed would result in a frontal collapse.
Lesson #1: Don't fly in the rain! Even a small amount has the strong possibility in getting you a parachutal stall. A friend of mine broke his back last year. Light rain, stall from 15 meters, no time to throw the reserve! Glider was Ozone Delta! Get ready for PLF early!
Nothing is safe flying in the rain because of the surface of the wing when it gets wet it ruins the airflow and it gets heavy, but the hang glider would have gained way more speed and landed safely on the ground. By the way you are a lucky man brotha (the pilot) for getting so closed to those power lines and still alive. Keep on flying and never give up!!!
S.Alexander Petraj Like pilots flying hand gliders don't get hurt!!! I have seen enough hand glider crashes, that I would not make the statement you made, above. The pilot is unsafe, not the wing!
The stall was because of the rain. Accelerater which could have helped was not attached. Spiral down would have been more helpful if he changed the direction of the spiral a few times, in order to distribute the water to the different sides.
As a power pilot I'm ignorant of the handling of paraglders, but my (uniformed) question is if the wing was battened, would it stop the potentially fatal wing collapse?
I'm a bit confused - why did he throw reserve? Only to get faster on the ground? The wing seemed fly just fine till the reserve throw and for a short while even after that.
The thing about hang gliders is they can't collapse but have good energy retention, pitch control and wind penetration. The thing about paragliders is that they can (and DO!) collapse but have little energy retention, no pitch control and have poor wind penetration. I've seen way too many collapses (and permanent PG injuries) to be comfortable with that kind of risk thanks. Lucky this time, hope you have the same luck next time.
two questions...which paraglider school did you visit bevore you began with flying? and why even did you thought about starting when it is raining? did you learned anything about physics in school and what a deep stall is? *headshake*
why is flying in rain such a bad thing? It didn't seem obvious from the video that it caused his crash, rather the wind turbulence flipped his parachute around.
Cause the canopy gets to heavy and the form/profile of a wing (profile its like a normal airplane wing) is not given anymore. And the whole wing will collaps in its self from the heavy water. And/or the wing will be indolent/sluggish...especially in hard conditions when quick reaction is needed. This is what you learn in the pilot school in the first hours of flying!
Kein Wind,so dass man extrem schnell laufen muss,um ueberhaupt starten zu koennen. Dafuer aber Regen... Kein Wunder,dass er gecrashed ist.... Regen kann den Schirm schwer machen,vorallem,wenn sich Regenwasser hinten bei der Austrittskante sammelt,und der Schirm immer staerker gebremst wird.
He would have avoided all this horror if he would have pullded the brakes at 2'14 , but he was just holding his risers and watching all the scene doing nothing.. Poor fellas
Did he drop his second parachute or how could he avoid an uncontrolled fall? I mean he was even over his parachute after collapse. When I see this kind of surprises I will never try this sport. Lucky guy for sure!
He should have never been flying. We don't fly in the rain because it greatly hinders the paraglider's ability to fly... including GREATLY increasing its likelihood of stalling (like it did here).
Why the biiip do you fly in this weather condition? Paragliding + rain is a really bad combination. And the dark dark clouds kind of screamed rainnn. Good you landed more or less safe - but you ahould never have been in the air
Mehr Glück wie Verstand. Wenn man "noch" in die Regenwand startet. th-cam.com/video/es3HtobimX0/w-d-xo.html Nach vorsichtiger Ausleitung der Spirale fliegt man sofort ca 50 % beschleunigt und geht sehr vorsichtig mit der Bremse um bis 1 Meter über dem Boden.
That's the reason I fly airplanes. You can fly a paraglider ultra smooth the whole time but all of a sudden the chute can collapse without warning and you go down very quick.
I think I saw God's hand reach out and gently stop your fall. I would quit paragliding. He is sending you a message. You know, He's got a lot to do. He may not be able to multitask and do this sort of thing for you again.
It is called a parachute reserve. All he need to thank is his experience and maintaining cool head and attitude. I'm sure God has better businesses to deal with.
i swear basically any video of an unintentional (or unplanned) landing with a paraglider always ends in a tree... even if there are no trees around, one will suddenly grow XD it's as if they're trying to catch you.
wowXD
+widgity you just bade my day i had a great laugh.
+widgity that's what they are for. to let human safely land. but we cut them off too much in favor of cars.
You don't see any other video without trees, beacause they are all dead.
www.agassizharrisonobserver.com/news/paraglider-rescued-from-tree-in-harrison-mills/
Thank you for sharing, you made the right decision to land when it started to rain....bad luck with the collapse, great insight to throw the silk...glad you are safe and well.
Cheers.
Wow! Thank you for posting as this has emphasised to me the dangers of flying in rain. We're all guilty now and again of trying to push our luck and guess luck was on your your side. Well done for managing this situation in the right way!
Why did you start at these weatherconditions???? Rain was foresee!. You blame yourself
Chickenwyn x I agree with you!
Good comment :)!
fault was to do a take off at those weather conditions. , y0ur experience and a portion of luck was leading to a good end !
The tree was probably nicer to land in than the ground. It looked pretty soft.
Thank u for sharing this man!
Have nice flights
Nothing to do with weather, everything to do with half wrap on brake and holding too much brake input during spiral recovery surge, glider never allowed to fly until hand is released from brake when reserve is reached for. Glider fly's again fine after brakes are released to through reserve. Common problem, predictable outcome.
God bless you sir I'm just learning how to ground handle my epsilon 9 and I I'm on the very top of the weight range I'm going to fly a trim speed and keep my hands up as much as I can. I'm going to avoid spiral diving as much as possible.
Glad to see you're ok, thanks for sharing this.
well done throwing the reserve! glad u r ok. many happy landings! :)
So glad you made it! Well done.
What was the weather condition? windy? lessons you learned? (Share the mistakes please)... if you are not the original owner of this video.. please at least give us the link to the original source(owner)
Rain increases stall speed. As a prohylactic measure, you could have pushed the bar to avoid parachutal stall. You will not always have a tree or plenty space below you the next time it occurs.
Ehrlich. Ich kannte das Video nicht aber gleich zu beginn habe ich das knistern gehört und dachte mir das regnet doch! Hier an dieser stelle ist eine gute Beratung vom Wetterdienst erforderlich. Das senkt das Risikomanagement! Bei solchen bedingungen wäre ich nie geflogen ! Nicht mal wenn ich runter laufen müsste! Hast nochmal Glück gehabt! Ps. Bin im Besitz eines A-scheins, B- Scheins und eines Motorschirmscheins. fliege seit 2012 und mir ist noch nie was passiert! Also immer dran denken Happy landings!
Ciao Max, è successo anche a me con un Icepeak 7: dopo pochi minuti sotto la pioggia, improvvisamente uno stallo dietro l'altro! Non ho avuto tempo di lanciare l'emergenza che già mi trovavo in un cespuglio sul pendio! Mi è andata a dir poco di ©uL*: nemmeno un graffio! Comunque è impressionante come cambiano le caratteristiche di volo della vela. Ho imparato che l'acqua è un serio pericolo!
Ciao, ThiO 😬
Trees save us a lot of injury... thanks for share ...really instructive video
Grazie per la condivisione di questa esperienza. Molti atleti del parapendio possono salvare la vita seguendo i tuoi consigli. Buona fortuna in qualsiasi modo desiderato.
it was a parachutal stall? i am curious about which glider is this and also if does anyone of your team mates face similar issues during the landing... the tree save you from the power lines just a few meter ahead... good atitude throwing the reserve and neutralizing the canopy
YOU'RE COOL DUDE MAN!!! WOW GOD LOVES YOU MAN!!!! PIZZA AND WINE FOR ALL!!!
Massimo, great that you got down safely (and that you missed those power lines).
I have so many questions. Why did you spiral down - was it rain? Did you hit some form of shear or low-level turbulence? Please explain in English. Thanks in advance!
It's started raining too much.. so I decided to go down in spiral, but after 2-3 seconds of "normal flight" after the spiral, the wing was too soaked and starded to collapse (parachute stall.. I don't know exactly in English, sorry) ;)
Massimo Guidi How about the other guys, did they land without problems?
Yes, they landed without big problems! My second mistake (after flying with rain) was the spiral to go down faster.. because the wing (totally wet) after this, didn't have speed and started to collapse.
Thanks for sharing your experience and wish you good flights!
***** After the spiral his leading edge would probably be the wettest and Heaviest part of the wing. Using the speed bar without good air speed would result in a frontal collapse.
Complimenti per la gestione della situazione!
How much was the Firefighter bill?
Please plant a sabling for thanks giving.... you are so chill even in life crisis..... Lesson to others
Lucky it was a happy ending... what lesson can we learn from that? Beside the decision to not take off.
Lesson #1: Don't fly in the rain! Even a small amount has the strong possibility in getting you a parachutal stall. A friend of mine broke his back last year. Light rain, stall from 15 meters, no time to throw the reserve! Glider was Ozone Delta! Get ready for PLF early!
skycruiser50 better lesson!!! switch to hang gliders!!!
S.Alexander Petraj Are hand gliders safe to fly in the rain ?.......
Nothing is safe flying in the rain because of the surface of the wing when it gets wet it ruins the airflow and it gets heavy, but the hang glider would have gained way more speed and landed safely on the ground. By the way you are a lucky man brotha (the pilot) for getting so closed to those power lines and still alive.
Keep on flying and never give up!!!
S.Alexander Petraj Like pilots flying hand gliders don't get hurt!!! I have seen enough hand glider crashes, that I would not make the statement you made, above. The pilot is unsafe, not the wing!
Lucy! The power lines were not very far! How did your friend do? He was high up.
glad you were lucky. was this "sackflug" (don't know the italian or english word) because of the rain?
The stall was because of the rain. Accelerater which could have helped was not attached. Spiral down would have been more helpful if he changed the direction of the spiral a few times, in order to distribute the water to the different sides.
Better the trees than the power lines (50 meters further away).
Was there a cloud suck when you were flying? The clouds look too dark..
Didn't you have backup parachute?
I haven't been off the ground yet, but I'd never dream of taking off into that disaster. The God's like you. A lot.
happy you could make it safe, how was clibbing donw the tree ?
At the top of the page is a video, if you watch it you will see your question was irrelevant since he did not climb down the tree...
Perfect! uses the parachute in the correct moment!!!
As a power pilot I'm ignorant of the handling of paraglders, but my (uniformed) question is if the wing was battened, would it stop the potentially fatal wing collapse?
I'm a bit confused - why did he throw reserve? Only to get faster on the ground? The wing seemed fly just fine till the reserve throw and for a short while even after that.
Che TORO! Grande!
I flew a hangglider in the '70s & early '80s. They were a lot safer in downdraft conditions...
The thing about hang gliders is they can't collapse but have good energy retention, pitch control and wind penetration.
The thing about paragliders is that they can (and DO!) collapse but have little energy retention, no pitch control and have poor wind penetration.
I've seen way too many collapses (and permanent PG injuries) to be comfortable with that kind of risk thanks. Lucky this time, hope you have the same luck next time.
dude that was crazy !!!
two questions...which paraglider school did you visit bevore you began with flying?
and why even did you thought about starting when it is raining?
did you learned anything about physics in school and what a deep stall is?
*headshake*
why is flying in rain such a bad thing? It didn't seem obvious from the video that it caused his crash, rather the wind turbulence flipped his parachute around.
Cause the canopy gets to heavy and the form/profile of a wing (profile its like a normal airplane wing) is not given anymore. And the whole wing will collaps in its self from the heavy water. And/or the wing will be indolent/sluggish...especially in hard conditions when quick reaction is needed.
This is what you learn in the pilot school in the first hours of flying!
As I see ,you inuced the stall.I'm happy You landed sefely!
by fellow. where such a beautiful place?
Well managed
For every glider there is a tree growing :)
Jan Tisler ahaha 😅 that's true
It's an alpha 5 ? I've the same.. wow crazy scary moment when you fall just next to your paraglider
tree saved you from the powerlines
Kein Wind,so dass man extrem schnell laufen muss,um ueberhaupt starten zu koennen. Dafuer aber Regen... Kein Wunder,dass er gecrashed ist.... Regen kann den Schirm schwer machen,vorallem,wenn sich Regenwasser hinten bei der Austrittskante sammelt,und der Schirm immer staerker gebremst wird.
God blessed ya :)
Rain and gliders don't mix, they fill with water.
good action thanks for sharing..
Hey! What is that number on your wing? is it number from your lockal school?
Олег Жуков yes it was my school number
Complimenti per il sangue freddo e la calma nell'esecuzione delle manovre.
Buoni voli 💪🏻👍🏻
He would have avoided all this horror if he would have pullded the brakes at 2'14 , but he was just holding his risers and watching all the scene doing nothing.. Poor fellas
I think he threw the reserve before 2'14", didn't he?
Did he drop his second parachute or how could he avoid an uncontrolled fall? I mean he was even over his parachute after collapse. When I see this kind of surprises I will never try this sport. Lucky guy for sure!
Yes - he has thrown his reserve at 2:09 . And landed on it. Flying in bad weather...
He should have never been flying. We don't fly in the rain because it greatly hinders the paraglider's ability to fly... including GREATLY increasing its likelihood of stalling (like it did here).
You are really COOL man!!!
una pianta è per sempre
Que diz "perfeito" para decolar, hein companheiro? Vamos estudar um pouco mais de meteorologia...
Very good decision to use rescue and not to try to recover the spin and so on, you were very close to the ground. !!! Lucky and good pilot too!
Crazy👼
Do I hear rain?
what happend?
I think he said 'shit' at the end in Italian.
the power lines was too close to you :(
i think those are telephone lines...
I'd prefer a parachute landing on a tree than on a ground or anything else... Good outcome.
Hope he gave a nice thank you donation to the fire department for rescuing him out of the tree.
"woooohoooooo", -> "merde , merde, merde!!!"
2:25 wohooo!!! oh merda merda merda (shit shit shit)
oh boy...
I couldn’t tell, surely he threw a reserve?
All that open area and you landed in a tree! That sucks.
On the other hand , was lucky not to have fallen into the power lines that were right there behind the trees.
thanks for sharing!
Sorte muita sorte.
Why the biiip do you fly in this weather condition? Paragliding + rain is a really bad combination. And the dark dark clouds kind of screamed rainnn. Good you landed more or less safe - but you ahould never have been in the air
Ein Gleitschirm ist kein Regenschirm
Why do you guys always spin and go crazy trying to make the wing collapse?
Mehr Glück wie Verstand. Wenn man "noch" in die Regenwand startet. th-cam.com/video/es3HtobimX0/w-d-xo.html Nach vorsichtiger Ausleitung der Spirale fliegt man sofort ca 50 % beschleunigt und geht sehr vorsichtig mit der Bremse um bis 1 Meter über dem Boden.
I didn't realize he'd thrown his parachute and at 2:15 my stomach dropped.
pas trop mal sorti en fin de compte
Na próxima leva um guarda-chuvas kkkk
he threw his resserve
What's happening man? so scary 😑
Too much water for the glider.
You misunderstood something; When it rains, you should OPEN the umbrella, do not CLOSE! ;) best luck from switzerland
you was Lucky
Launched in rain, not the brightest decision. But then again, paraglider "pilot".
What is the bad he did 🤔 ???? To much brake.
Parashutage after spiral dive. many brakes at the end of it, you don't leave to fly again. It hapent to me too same times:):):).
why take off in that shit?
That's the reason I fly airplanes. You can fly a paraglider ultra smooth the whole time but all of a sudden the chute can collapse without warning and you go down very quick.
XD
Mo aaction
Poor decision to fly in conditions like that. You will crash again with that kind of decision making.
I think I saw God's hand reach out and gently stop your fall. I would quit paragliding. He is sending you a message. You know, He's got a lot to do. He may not be able to multitask and do this sort of thing for you again.
It is called a parachute reserve. All he need to thank is his experience and maintaining cool head and attitude. I'm sure God has better businesses to deal with.
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