I trained at Westside in the early 90's BEFORE it was a total Elite Powerlifting Club. Jeff Chorpenning helped me learn box squats as well as Louie and I learned more from Louie than I had previously reading and training for 10 years. The atmosphere then was great and I have found Louie to be equally invested in an elite athlete and total beginner. He gets excited about helping people.
Dave says dont alienate people , I can attest to his giving people his time. I visited Elitefts in 2015 because I wanted to learn a bit more than I knew about the conjugate system and j trained there twice. On the Sst morning session he spent around 2.5hrs with me at the desk drawing diagrams , discussing techniques and answering my questions. He asked me if I was going to train at Westside to which I answered yes.He told me that without Louis he wouldn't be where he was today as he'd started it all. I liked the openness of Dave and really appreciated his time. I'd like to visit again as hes in the new compound now.
This video has meant more to me, at this time, in this moment than anything! I have trained around Westside alumni, I have aspirations, I want to break records. so much was covered, but in the small talk are all my answers. Thank you Dave and Mark.
This is an awesome interview. I recently got onto the weekend crew at Elite and it's been an amazing experience that I hope to continue. The help I get from Dave and all of the other guys at the gym has helped me learn more and changed my life in powerlifting. Can't thank him enough.
Thank u for this! Brings me back to when I started, actually met Dave at westside I was young punk and it was nerve racking but an experience I will never forget. Brought me to the national level and showed me what it took to be a champion and have a killer instinct. Watching this makes me want to go put gear on and get under 800lbs. Of course I'd crumble now days but lol thank u. PS please track Vogehpool down and interview him. These young guys have no clue what a fucking beast and icon that guy is
Gonna save this video for my next cardio session..... 2 weeks out Mark Bell is the reason I took my training seriously! Can't wait for the next BSF film!
I don't think people realize the impact Elitefts has had on the industry. There was NO WHERE to go besides a couple magazines to get info on strength and conditioning / powerlifting OR special equipment for the above. Dave and that team were the original "Rogue Fitness" don't get that shit twisted! When I was in high school and stumbled upon the site it was a major factor that led to me wanting to become involved in the industry today and I'm sure thousands of others can say the same
I don't see whats so hard to get? powerlifting yourself into the ground is no different then a football player or a fighter wanting to get back out on that field after a concussion or two or three. Or a racecar driver getting back into a car after a horrific crash.its a Love ,its a passion and you would die for it. everybody who is chasing a dream doesn't really stop at nothing til they achieve it.
Dave's reasons for not being excited about lifting anymore are all the reasons why I incorporate various types of training into my routines. To me the training is what is fun. The process is what gets me excited. I enjoy a great bodybuilding pump...so I lift light when I feel like it. I enjoy athletic stuff...so I'll do some plyos, etc. If you train for "goals" then all you find is dissatisfaction. People seem to ignore the fact that you will some day lift the heaviest weight you will EVER lift in your life...Then what? Sit around and get fat and talk about your kids and grand kids? Nah bruh.... That's why you rarely see lifters putting in 20 years. Funny thing is...those who have fun training for 20 years...often smashed everyone else's "goals" LOL Find the type of training you like...and have fun. The numbers will come. And when youre done lifting heavy...remember...a good pump can be attained for the rest of your life! Keep training and stay alive! (550 squat, 350 bench, 550 deadlift....198s...I'm no slouch...but I also don't take this stuff so seriously...lighten up and have fun guys...)
What does the bench have to do with the deadlift? I don't grind out deadlifts at any rate. So my deads are clean, straight back, locked out and no strain at lockout. This keeps me healthy. I should be hitting 600 by year end. Like I said, I don't rush the numbers because I enjoy the training.
This video was amazing. It really helped motivate me & made me realise that I can train by myself independently without having to pay a trainer to help cause I already know what to do
Anyone remember the power mag online forum back in 2004 when Ryan Kennelly was going for the bench press world record over 1k lbs? Sgt rock was there too and a guy named Mike Wolf. Mike wolf is the guy that got me into training Westside when I was 18-19. Of course it ain't Westside it your ain't at Westside. He did invite me to train down there but I never got the chance to. Looking back I wish I would have just packed my bags and hit the road and never looked back. I didn't know back then the amount of camaraderie that comes along with a brotherhood like that. I used to call him wolfy, he broke it down and said basically as a beginning power lifter doing Westside style, cuz as a beginner the most important thing to learn is technique. He had me doing speed squats on Monday as a warm up for dead (dynamic effort) go into dead for a max single, then accessory work (he said train like a bodybuilder for sets of 6-10 mostly 6) bent over rows, sldl or Romanians, one arm rows or Pulldowns or chins and hammer curls 3 sets each. Wed was max effort bench with assistance same premise for rep scheme using JM press, or incline decline barbell or dumbbell presses and then skull crushers or pressdowns. Friday was dynamic dead for warm up then max single squat, close stance atgs for quads, pull throughs, leg extension and leg curl or reverse hypers or ghr. Sat was dynamic bench with OH press for a max triple or single then lateral raise and HANEYS (reverse upright row) for sets of six for a pump. He told me go up in 2.5-5 lb increments a week on all lifts. I was hitting prs each week for 2+ years. I was the only guy people knew in my area that could do chins at 300 lbs for sets of ten as a natural no steroids, Westside works period, even without bands or chains. I know it isn't the traditional Westside regimen but it was for a beginner. And as I said, I sailed on that shit for two years.
One clarification, do not hit the dog, if he does it on the floor. This makes things worse. Thanks Mark and the crew for the good and unique content for free.
Mark, it seems a lot of powerlifters have a bunch of injuries. Could you talk a little about injury prevention and whether you and other elite lifters would have trained differently back in the day to avoid these injuries. Or do you think injuries just come with the territory? And the guys who did not get injured, what was their secret or was it just luck and genetics?
yo Pa, if you look up Matt Wenning he talks a lot about it. Also I would suggest looking into Dave Tate's own channel and research concurent training. Mainly, watch Dave's video from the LTT8 Seminar about accessories and learn how different movements affect your joints. Hope it helps
Goddamn what a great interview. I've said so many of the exact same things. It WAS impossible to stay there. I was a "junior varsity" member there for ten years so I didn't have to deal with as much of the mind fuck stuff and I was truly already mind fucked. the most true things said here was I always had to talk myself out of the car when I got there. The funny thing is that for the previous ten years my occupations in life totally revolved around life and death violence and I never had to talk myself into any violent situations. I appreciate the experience and I appreciate the little bit of time around guys like Dave and Mark. I learned a lot.
Great interview and content, ruined by terrible microphone and annoying shaky cam. Why not place mic. and cam. on the table. It's less work and a better result. Still love your channel.
ChallengingGravity why don't you sacrifice everything for a number (that nobody cares about) and put your body through hell for 20+ years. Have so many regrets you can't remember all of them. Now your lifting career is over and you body is crippled, you can't do normal daily functions with out being in pain. and then see if your a bundle of joy or a little depressed.
@danlben313 That's what I don't get..... Lifting a barbell isn't that important. Don't get me wrong, I love powerlifting, but I would NEVER make that a priority over my family or friends. It's just exercising, it's suppose to increase the quality of life, not the other way around....
Shaun...I imagine that's 97% of peoples thinking but those genetic freaks where lifting comes easy...lifting heavy comes "easier"...and you can squat 900+ lbs and bench 600+ lbs, etc then that's when it consumes you and you make it the #1 priority...not saying that's right, it's just, you can see how it consumes some people.
EverydayMaddenPlayer youre not, he is just stupid, not lifting is the worst thing imaginable for anyone that has goals associated with lifting, I dont have a problem with dying at 50 if I get to achieve my ultimate total, thats the elite mentality, at least for those who started from the bottom
I trained at Westside in the early 90's BEFORE it was a total Elite Powerlifting Club. Jeff Chorpenning helped me learn box squats as well as Louie and I learned more from Louie than I had previously reading and training for 10 years. The atmosphere then was great and I have found Louie to be equally invested in an elite athlete and total beginner. He gets excited about helping people.
Did you train at the PowerHouse in Eastgate
Dave says dont alienate people , I can attest to his giving people his time.
I visited Elitefts in 2015 because I wanted to learn a bit more than I knew about the conjugate system and j trained there twice.
On the Sst morning session he spent around 2.5hrs with me at the desk drawing diagrams , discussing techniques and answering my questions.
He asked me if I was going to train at Westside to which I answered yes.He told me that without Louis he wouldn't be where he was today as he'd started it all.
I liked the openness of Dave and really appreciated his time.
I'd like to visit again as hes in the new compound now.
Two legends. This world is a better place thanks to both of you.
Westside Vs. The World, so hyped
So much respect for Dave. Doesn't matter if you agree with his training style or philosophy, he's such an incredibly driven dude. Respect.
This video has meant more to me, at this time, in this moment than anything! I have trained around Westside alumni, I have aspirations, I want to break records. so much was covered, but in the small talk are all my answers. Thank you Dave and Mark.
This is an awesome interview. I recently got onto the weekend crew at Elite and it's been an amazing experience that I hope to continue. The help I get from Dave and all of the other guys at the gym has helped me learn more and changed my life in powerlifting. Can't thank him enough.
Thank u for this! Brings me back to when I started, actually met Dave at westside I was young punk and it was nerve racking but an experience I will never forget. Brought me to the national level and showed me what it took to be a champion and have a killer instinct. Watching this makes me want to go put gear on and get under 800lbs. Of course I'd crumble now days but lol thank u. PS please track Vogehpool down and interview him. These young guys have no clue what a fucking beast and icon that guy is
so happy that you two did this interview. such good quality talk.
Gonna save this video for my next cardio session..... 2 weeks out
Mark Bell is the reason I took my training seriously! Can't wait for the next BSF film!
Dave Tates videos so informative I've learned alot of about technique from them!!!
Wow, I was just watching all of Dave's videos about Westside right now. Perfect timing!
I don't think people realize the impact Elitefts has had on the industry. There was NO WHERE to go besides a couple magazines to get info on strength and conditioning / powerlifting OR special equipment for the above. Dave and that team were the original "Rogue Fitness" don't get that shit twisted! When I was in high school and stumbled upon the site it was a major factor that led to me wanting to become involved in the industry today and I'm sure thousands of others can say the same
I know I can.
Gay
Awesome video! Always enjoy hearing Dave talk and just awesome with both of y'all.
Awesome to see businesses working together instead of against each other.
Dave always looks so intense and shakes during a lot of these video. His enthusiasm is contagious
OMG!! Thank you Mark, been waiting to see you two talking for years now!
I don't see whats so hard to get? powerlifting yourself into the ground is no different then a football player or a fighter wanting to get back out on that field after a concussion or two or three. Or a racecar driver getting back into a car after a horrific crash.its a Love ,its a passion and you would die for it. everybody who is chasing a dream doesn't really stop at nothing til they achieve it.
Joseph Hockensmith The hindus call it lila, it is a play, not a game. Why would a child stop playing?
The difference is football players, boxers and race car drivers get paid millions and millions of dollars.
Wow man...you are so wise...thanks...
@@brotendo some of them do yes, but millions more will be known by no one and will have spent their while life trying
I love the content you both put out, so I got so hyped when I got the notification for this video!
My first and last power rack was an EliteFTS. This was a great Q&A, loved every second of it.
This is one of my favorite videos ever. Since the beginning of youtube. I'm old enough to have seen it.
The video is 7 years old that is not even close to the beginning of youtube.
Great work. Very interesting conversation. 36 minutes flew by. Thanks.
2 LEGENDS! Keep the great content coming!!
Dave's reasons for not being excited about lifting anymore are all the reasons why I incorporate various types of training into my routines. To me the training is what is fun. The process is what gets me excited. I enjoy a great bodybuilding pump...so I lift light when I feel like it. I enjoy athletic stuff...so I'll do some plyos, etc. If you train for "goals" then all you find is dissatisfaction. People seem to ignore the fact that you will some day lift the heaviest weight you will EVER lift in your life...Then what? Sit around and get fat and talk about your kids and grand kids? Nah bruh.... That's why you rarely see lifters putting in 20 years. Funny thing is...those who have fun training for 20 years...often smashed everyone else's "goals" LOL Find the type of training you like...and have fun. The numbers will come. And when youre done lifting heavy...remember...a good pump can be attained for the rest of your life! Keep training and stay alive! (550 squat, 350 bench, 550 deadlift....198s...I'm no slouch...but I also don't take this stuff so seriously...lighten up and have fun guys...)
What does the bench have to do with the deadlift? I don't grind out deadlifts at any rate. So my deads are clean, straight back, locked out and no strain at lockout. This keeps me healthy. I should be hitting 600 by year end. Like I said, I don't rush the numbers because I enjoy the training.
asshole I've got a 325 bench and a 495 dl
Shauna Leavitt that he did
James Santiago bro your damn near world record numbers man.....
Adam Burke I hope you're being sarcastic
Good sh*t. I appreciate the honesty. Sharing both the good and the bad. There was a lot of hard-earned wisdom shared here. Thanks.
The "beat the fuck outta of yourself!" is 100% 4 me its hell but brings me to peace.
Be awesome to see a Chuck Vogelpohl interview
joe dirt I could not agree more
Chuck Isopropyl alcohol is what I call hime
Never happen
Yet it did. Your comment aged like fine milk! Dave Tate had him on.
This interview just reassured so much for my in my pursuit to power lift and open up a free strength gym here in Mobile Al! Thanks for this Mark!!!
One of the best videos you've put out, really enjoyed it.
thank you Mark bell for this vid
never clicked on a video faster. This is the best idea in a while
This is my favorite video so far. Great job!
best video ever put on this channel
Haven't watched yet, but this is going to be one of the best vids put out. i can already tell.
This puts in a new perspective that ANY passion can lead to this outcome. Kinda sad but it's a reality
Ev Sal Reality is sad, thats why everyone gets depressed
Best content in a while imo
That was cool! More stuff like that, please.
Love this stuff!
In a nutshell this video encompasses the elitefts motto. "Live. learn. pass on."
This video was amazing. It really helped motivate me & made me realise that I can train by myself independently without having to pay a trainer to help cause I already know what to do
Great video, the only issue is Mark's voice is too low to hear, the microphone is way too far away
Best vids in the game
These guys are freaking awesome!!! Robs of knowledge here...
GOOD VIDEO MAN NEED MORE
Anyone remember the power mag online forum back in 2004 when Ryan Kennelly was going for the bench press world record over 1k lbs? Sgt rock was there too and a guy named Mike Wolf. Mike wolf is the guy that got me into training Westside when I was 18-19. Of course it ain't Westside it your ain't at Westside. He did invite me to train down there but I never got the chance to. Looking back I wish I would have just packed my bags and hit the road and never looked back. I didn't know back then the amount of camaraderie that comes along with a brotherhood like that. I used to call him wolfy, he broke it down and said basically as a beginning power lifter doing Westside style, cuz as a beginner the most important thing to learn is technique. He had me doing speed squats on Monday as a warm up for dead (dynamic effort) go into dead for a max single, then accessory work (he said train like a bodybuilder for sets of 6-10 mostly 6) bent over rows, sldl or Romanians, one arm rows or Pulldowns or chins and hammer curls 3 sets each. Wed was max effort bench with assistance same premise for rep scheme using JM press, or incline decline barbell or dumbbell presses and then skull crushers or pressdowns. Friday was dynamic dead for warm up then max single squat, close stance atgs for quads, pull throughs, leg extension and leg curl or reverse hypers or ghr. Sat was dynamic bench with OH press for a max triple or single then lateral raise and HANEYS (reverse upright row) for sets of six for a pump. He told me go up in 2.5-5 lb increments a week on all lifts. I was hitting prs each week for 2+ years. I was the only guy people knew in my area that could do chins at 300 lbs for sets of ten as a natural no steroids, Westside works period, even without bands or chains. I know it isn't the traditional Westside regimen but it was for a beginner. And as I said, I sailed on that shit for two years.
They just replace the ball (mine is ceramic) and the socket (mine is a plastic material) both are modular and the y last about 15 years.
MORE SUPERTRAINING FROM ELITEFTS!!
Finally!
8:40. I know it was the chair but the move and face made it look like a sly rip haha
jc30005 hahaha
One clarification, do not hit the dog, if he does it on the floor. This makes things worse.
Thanks Mark and the crew for the good and unique content for free.
This was absolutely fucking amazing
I thought Dave and Mark severed ties. Love to see them together.
💪👍 realest and best!
Watching this twice.
Thanks for this - really great.
This was LOOOONG overdue and it was EPIC!!
Great content, but I can't hear it that well. Can we get some subtitles please?
awesome
This awesome
Awesome Video!
Great video!
Mark, it seems a lot of powerlifters have a bunch of injuries. Could you talk a little about injury prevention and whether you and other elite lifters would have trained differently back in the day to avoid these injuries. Or do you think injuries just come with the territory? And the guys who did not get injured, what was their secret or was it just luck and genetics?
yo Pa, if you look up Matt Wenning he talks a lot about it. Also I would suggest looking into Dave Tate's own channel and research concurent training. Mainly, watch Dave's video from the LTT8 Seminar about accessories and learn how different movements affect your joints. Hope it helps
AYYYY
Cool guy! I like the honesty! :)
Top shelf video
Wish this interview had a part 2
Goddamn what a great interview. I've said so many of the exact same things. It WAS impossible to stay there. I was a "junior varsity" member there for ten years so I didn't have to deal with as much of the mind fuck stuff and I was truly already mind fucked. the most true things said here was I always had to talk myself out of the car when I got there. The funny thing is that for the previous ten years my occupations in life totally revolved around life and death violence and I never had to talk myself into any violent situations. I appreciate the experience and I appreciate the little bit of time around guys like Dave and Mark. I learned a lot.
Fuck I can't wait for the Westside Vs the world Documentary.
Hope you watched it ;)
Never knew this existed...awesome vid
Immediate like!
awesome video
more content like this, cut it out with the crossfit bs
Really glad I clicked on this video, wow
Well that was pretty Awesome.
I was today years old when I found out that elite fts is in my hometown .
What is this contract Dave is talking about?
Alexander Gordon he's crazy !
Dave talks about it in one of his presentation videos. It's on TH-cam.
Alexander Gordon?
17:40 - 17:50 such a beautiful sight
I understand the passion but to not see your kids so you can break a gym PR at age 50 or so is just stupid
22:00 ....Just shameless LOL
Love the interviews but I'm starting to get neck pain from trying to listen to these! You need a new mic.
youtube gold
Dave Tate: “Fuck shit ass fuck shit ass fuck shut ass fuck shit ass fuck ass shit....” Dave Tate: Cool guy.
I thought Dave and Mark had beef ?
slws14 They threw it on a grill and ate it.
22:00 lol
75 years of age is not that old. Why can't they replace his hip at 75. As long as his heart is strong.
whatever it takes god damn it.
the media team are going fucking H.A.M
Not loud enough for me to hear while on my lunch break at work!
I bet he said "Fuck" 500 times.
Great interview and content, ruined by terrible microphone and annoying shaky cam. Why not place mic. and cam. on the table. It's less work and a better result. Still love your channel.
people like you always have something depressing to say. Fuck off and let people enjoy their free content.
People get hip and knee replacement surgery at 100 years old today
Why the fuck did this start in the middle of the conversation?
shawz10 this was a 2 hour conversation that's why
That means you robbed us of 1 1/2 hours of Dave Tate goodness! How dare you!
will you be posting all of it?
Massthetics
Josh Miller The legion will stand tall among the giants.
Strengthletics im waitin for the damn video of them at ST lol
god,westside lifters are depressing
ChallengingGravity why don't you sacrifice everything for a number (that nobody cares about) and put your body through hell for 20+ years. Have so many regrets you can't remember all of them. Now your lifting career is over and you body is crippled, you can't do normal daily functions with out being in pain.
and then see if your a bundle of joy or a little depressed.
ChallengingGravity Well fuck him for making that choice.
@danlben313 That's what I don't get..... Lifting a barbell isn't that important. Don't get me wrong, I love powerlifting, but I would NEVER make that a priority over my family or friends. It's just exercising, it's suppose to increase the quality of life, not the other way around....
Shaun...I imagine that's 97% of peoples thinking but those genetic freaks where lifting comes easy...lifting heavy comes "easier"...and you can squat 900+ lbs and bench 600+ lbs, etc then that's when it consumes you and you make it the #1 priority...not saying that's right, it's just, you can see how it consumes some people.
@PreppinShootinLivin I agree, that make sense. It's an addiction. I guess they're worst things to be addicted to.
To much value placed on body but neglecting the spirit. Not very wise
You would rather lift weights and be in a wheelchair?? I'm confused as fuck..
EverydayMaddenPlayer watch fuck your elbow video...aka Powerlifting Motivation Video it spells it out for you.
EverydayMaddenPlayer pussy
Adam Burke why am I a pussy?
EverydayMaddenPlayer youre not, he is just stupid, not lifting is the worst thing imaginable for anyone that has goals associated with lifting, I dont have a problem with dying at 50 if I get to achieve my ultimate total, thats the elite mentality, at least for those who started from the bottom
Fuckin TH-cam made me unsubscribe from this channel. Lol only missed 1 vid
Records are not worth screwing up your hips,knees and back.It's all about longevity.Silent Mike probably realised that and simply moved on.
Željko people who don't exercise at all are in pain as well!
Željko It's not worth it for you, don't assume your opinion or perspective is the only one that exists, don't speak like a child
Željko being weak is more dangerous than lifting
stupidest comment ever. ST isnt as hardcore as Westside. no reason anyone would fuck up their body
JARRET MATTA lol what? Where the fuck did you get that info from.
I could respect what you were doing if you guys were in a high level sport... There's more to life than weights :/
MrStevies182 powerlifting is a high level sport
Garrett Patterson yes you're right powerlifters make millions and are massive celebrities.
MrStevies182 because money and fame are the only reason worth doing anything.
Garrett Patterson triggered
oh yes definitely.