As a Kiwi who has wind surfed, kite boarded and then started wing surfing in 2021 and only riding foils I've designed myself, it is still startling to see the tiny area of the foils relative to the hulls and the amazing streamlining and below water line optimizations on display here. For all this to occur within my own lifetime is a dream I never knew even could exist when I was a child.
@@fluiditynz Great point! I found myself (naively?) even wondering if one day, might cargo yachts use foils to transport goods across oceans… Seems crazy! But so did flight. Yet we made it to the moon and created a space station.
As a Kiwi growing up, all I can remember are the American sailors. They were like Gods to us. Our racehorses were named after the champions, for example, Intrepid. The US spacecraft were named after the champions also, like Enterprise and Columbia. The Americas Cup is in the blood of Americans and Kiwis.
Agreed. But for some reason, AC and LV and SailGP have chosen to stupidly ignore the only truly relevant speed numbers in a race yacht. Massively frustrating, because it shows they all think we are morons. :( It is certain all the commentators have been told (in no uncertain terms, such as "You'll be instantly fired!") that they must NEVER mention the most evil acronym in all of sport; VMG.
The 'made for TV' sailing area is the problem. The legs are too short and too laterally constrained to provide any tactical opportunity. If you lose the start the only way back in is a mistake by the leader.
That is simply and demonstrably untrue according to thousands of foil-racing statistics over many years now. Mistakes are what have always turned boat races - and are not something to complain about when happening. FYI: Loose is what bowels can be. Lose is the opposite of winning.
I think the racing course should atleaest be a triangle if not a square ,if a square each corner is set at true north west east and south with no deviation from that and that would mean reading the wind and mistakes and of course tactics are more in play than outright speed although a nessacary component a well .
Hey Tim your show is simply the best online . My wife and i are retired in Cape st Francis.I played rugby for Grey High school in 74 and 75 and would love to have you and your family come and spend a few days...free surfing lessons included! Love to take you all to Addo and show you around this lovely part of the E Cape kind regards Peter
Peter "I can't start" Burling. :P Well, Pete, you just keep doin' wotcha doin', mate. This is what we came for, and the production quality leaves AC36 looking (and sounding!) like amateur hour. Score: 9.5/10 - because nothing and no one ever gets 10!
If their tactic had worked it would have been impressive and laudable. To not have tried a new tactic would have been pointless and uncompetitive A match hardness has not emerged yet in the Ineos team..
@@Trajan2401 yes I do. There were a few moments in this race where INEOS showed promise, and clearly Ben and Dylan have made some very good starts since this.
Hard to see past the NZ boat, esp with Pete and Nathan helming. Brits beaten by almost a kilometre and a minute, dropping back all the time. Didn't Ben step back from helming at one point in the build up?
As a kiwi I’m rapt to see ETNZ and their yacht performing so well. But as a lover of yacht racing and the AC, the sport needs much closer competition than this, to retain and attract spectators. And competitors.
As a Brit I have to say that you guys really have nailed these AC 75's and your set up and teamwork is the perfect package. But, there is a lack of boat on boat like we used to get.
@@enzeda i agree there's no racing after the start its either following each other or someone falls of the foils or something breaks every time it becomes boring
Yes must agree , perhaps it's the constraints of the course . Back in the day courses we larger and boats so much slower, a slightly larger course my offer more opportunities for passing.
The only difference between this and Ineos of old is that they managed to get back up on the foils quite quickly. So that is at least some progress for them !!!
I cannot and will never understand how the nz government said no to helping the team hold this competition in NZ. They needed to fix the problems they had regarding who pays for what,etc…..and get on with it…….. Thank you NZ we at Barcelona are absolutely ecstatic at your decision not to host the cup and all the BILLIONS that are coming our way…..! If you happen to win this cup , Remember we would be very happy to host again…..cause that’s what friends are for right?
I thought they offered to pony up $50m (?) but Dalts thought he couldn't bridge the gap (in order to hold a compelling contest, and yet have a fighting chance of defending it?
Wheres VMG Data..gaining 20 seconds upwind ? Burling and Outteridge wow...they will be very hard to beat. Would we be thr first team to win it offshore, defend home, defend offshore ?
I would have expected better from Sir Ben. It's not like he hasn't sailed these boats before. Ineos Brittania have a lot of work to do if they don't want to be the first boat eliminated when it kicks off. Surely they must of realised that having the rudder foil pulling the stern down a bit creates drag so less speed. Should of stuck with the rest of the teams until maybe in the future when they understand these beasts better, then they can experiment more.
Whilst I enjoy the racing I do think the organiser need to up the complexity by re-introducing the leeward windward tracks into the racing course otherwise its drag racing hoping something wont break. Robin
I surely hope that the more consequential later races will be released with the unobscured crew comms available for each team. It's just too depressing to have the boats approaching a mark (eg M6 in this race) only for McIvor to talk over their canvassing of their options with mundane info about leg number and such, information which could far more appropriately and less disruptively be conveyed numerically by text or icons in a corner of the screen.
@@jdcolnago3 I'm not sure it's entirely his fault. I get the impression his producer might keep him on a rather tight leash. If so, I wish they'd find a better producer.
Ouch… for both INEOS Britannia and the AC. Another race where it was all about the start. Hopefully in the AC itself, we see real competition. Yachting needs that.
We're almost like the villain of the story so far... Hopefully we get Darth Vader entrance theme music when the regatta actually begins. all dressed in black like Lidya Ko's gold medal-winning skirt
Nearly 500 metres behind after the first leg....... She's not a fast boat but if they don't get the starts right then it will be an early bath for Brittania
Not sure who thinks that boats finishing a kilometer apart is match racing. Commentators have nothing to talk about. "Ghost boat" is a complete waste of computer code. The Americas Cup has become a special interest group for nerds who have turned what used to be a brilliant spectator sport into a complete farce.
They would have learned nothing about TNZs playbook and how to avoid its traps by playing safe and going for a "least worst" startline outcome. They can't realistically hope to teach TNZ many lessons yet, but all the more reason to maximise what they can learn in these early races where points are trivial.
Ainslie is no slouch, he has plenty of experience, if the performance of your equipment is not on point there is not a lot you can do. It is early days but if it continues it does not bode well for Ineos.
@@enzeda Ineos had F1 support for development in the last Americas Cup. The publicity about that went quiet when they had foiling issues. So last time F1 input did not work for them.
Been sailing for over 50 years. Loved the America’s Cup. Now it’s just Boats flying across the water. Not much in tactics. Win the start then just go around the course till you finish. Pretty boring.
I would like the race course longer and wider,but then the cyclors would have heart attacks before the finish.Maybe a 12 man crew with four extra cyclors..like in rugby,guys coming off the bench...Steven McIvor is a cringe commentator
These races are soooo boring. Bring back mono-hulls. I miss the sail trimming, spinnakers and the boat creaking. Picking the side to sail and the wind shifts. Go Team NZ!
Yeh nah not sure what your smoking but you need to stop , reality has escaped you. Being an avid kiwi sailor of some 60 odd years I along with my compatriots have nothing but high regards for Ben and his team along with England who have done massively well on the water throughout the years in many classes so can suggest you pull your head in before you make a bigger fool of yourself while understanding this is a class where the difference between glory and pain is measured in milliseconds yuh egg
Lol now you are just trying to get your own back - for something. As long as it's not Brexit (the most stupid idea in history), I don't care. Yes we haven't raced well in the first two matches. We got caught after the start by Alinghi, which is very unusual
Sir Ben Ainslie,nice to see you again after the 2021 America’s Cup in New Zealand. I must say that you did not learn anything after today’s match race against Emirates Team,the same mistake in the beginning of the race same as 2021. I know why, your arrogance is visible you should be more humble and this will lead you to better results.
A better idea, in my view, would be to shut up the routine update /continuity chatter during and adjacent to manoeuvres, so we can actually hear the sailors' thought processes, rather than listen to speculation about them.
Racing the 12m back in the days was much more interesting. Watching a race (with fascinating boats) like this...just boring. After the start nothing happens.
As a man interested in crewed sailing competitions I have never seen a "race" as dull and boring as this one. The sport is being killed by technology right here. Signing out.
The problem facing the America's Cup today is that the technology has advanced so far that, if you make the smallest mistake like falling off the foils, you are generally a goner. This has happened (to NZ's advantage) in both their races so far. This time it happened before Ineos was even over the start line and makes for very boring watching, - NZ were over a kilometer ahead at one stage, so there are no tacking duels etc like we used to see in the monohulls. The sport seems to be engineering its own demise.
I hope Luna Rossa wins so that they take away the Kiwis' ability to decide which boat to race with. Great sailors, but incapable of developing a boat concept that can guarantee spectacle and real sporting competition. It is not possible to see a sport that is decided at the start and that makes it impossible to come back unless someone else makes a mistake. Does anyone remember how good the America's Cup organised by Alinghi in Valencia was?
Yes, as a sailor of the 32nd AC in Valencia, the last 4 generations have been so disappointing to watch, to the point that I don't even follow it anymore.
@@peter_peter_pumpkin_eater Certainly not, all I would need is for them to develop a boat concept that is accessible to all and that at least gives the appearance of competition and the possibility of reversing fortunes, as was done with IACC.
This is early days in the comp. To write off this class now is silly. Every Americas cup is dull in the early stages. Some teams are off the pace, and playing catch-up. It’s no different now to 50 years back. The technology in 2024 is just light years ahead. 100% as we progress through to the latter stages and the weaker teams are eliminated, and we are left with the serious contenders we will see some incredible racing. And the matchups are close.
With all the technology gone into these yachts, would be good if the commentary services had more improved coverage, to match these sailing machine s, as they get around the course .....quite a boring viewing otherwise.
5 million population and NZ has changed the yaughting world. Regardless of how they go, how frigging incredible is this team.
Having a good boat is one thing- which NZ undoubtedly has- but NZ are bloody good sailors- and that's another thing.
What’s even better is that they do their own thing while the other teams mostly work together lol
That's how it's done 😊😊
I yaughed out youd at this.
what really is incredible. New Zealand being the Capital of Australia ...hahahaha
As a Kiwi who has wind surfed, kite boarded and then started wing surfing in 2021 and only riding foils I've designed myself, it is still startling to see the tiny area of the foils relative to the hulls and the amazing streamlining and below water line optimizations on display here. For all this to occur within my own lifetime is a dream I never knew even could exist when I was a child.
@@fluiditynz Great point!
I found myself (naively?) even wondering if one day, might cargo yachts use foils to transport goods across oceans… Seems crazy! But so did flight. Yet we made it to the moon and created a space station.
As a Kiwi growing up, all I can remember are the American sailors. They were like Gods to us. Our racehorses were named after the champions, for example, Intrepid. The US spacecraft were named after the champions also, like Enterprise and Columbia. The Americas Cup is in the blood of Americans and Kiwis.
I love my country… and its people when we all work together… Like the Athen says, God Defend New Zealand, what a crew….
The Peter and Nathan combo seems to be working well so far. Great clear coms, nice and calm
When I heard Nathan was with us a big sigh of relief!
Where is Blair took?
Forgive my ignorance
@@walterfuller8737trimmer with either maloney or junior
Josh J has moved to the coaching team (a great idea IMO to keep feeding it YOUNG, proven talent, RD is a phenomenon, but he's not immortal
A VMG display would be helpful.
Agreed. But for some reason, AC and LV and SailGP have chosen to stupidly ignore the only truly relevant speed numbers in a race yacht. Massively frustrating, because it shows they all think we are morons. :(
It is certain all the commentators have been told (in no uncertain terms, such as "You'll be instantly fired!") that they must NEVER mention the most evil acronym in all of sport; VMG.
Second this!
I love these boats...
Team NZ are next level at sailing ⛵️ too big too fast too good 🤙
The 'made for TV' sailing area is the problem. The legs are too short and too laterally constrained to provide any tactical opportunity. If you lose the start the only way back in is a mistake by the leader.
They thought that in Auckland too, but there was overtaking.
The easy solution is don’t make mistakes
That is simply and demonstrably untrue according to thousands of foil-racing statistics over many years now. Mistakes are what have always turned boat races - and are not something to complain about when happening.
FYI: Loose is what bowels can be.
Lose is the opposite of winning.
I think the racing course should atleaest be a triangle if not a square ,if a square each corner is set at true north west east and south with no deviation from that and that would mean reading the wind and mistakes and of course tactics are more in play than outright speed although a nessacary component a well .
Yes we need longer wider courses
Well done ETNZ 👏👏🎉🎉❤❤👍
Yes, go the mighty Kiwi's ❤
YES. WELL DON E. BURLING , NATHAN MALONEY AND ALL THE BOYS NICE JOB. VERY PROUD OF YOUS ALL GUYS👍👍👍👍🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹💚💓♥️💙💛🙏🙏🙏🙏⭐⭐🌟⭐🌟✋✋✋✋✋✋
Ainslie got screwed again :)
Lightwork once again for the kiwis 💪🏽
Hey Tim your show is simply the best online . My wife and i are retired in Cape st Francis.I played rugby for Grey High school in 74 and 75 and would love to have you and your family come and spend a few days...free surfing lessons included! Love to take you all to Addo and show you around this lovely part of the E Cape
kind regards Peter
I'm never this early what to say ahh
Ainsley got schooled
The boats are fantastic. The technology is amazing. The commentators do their best to make it exciting. However, the racing so far is boring.
Kenny Reid!
Especially when you lose 😂.
Sir Ben has become an expert in EXCUSES…
Ineos is consistent - 0 for 2 so far !!
😂😂
Peter "I can't start" Burling. :P
Well, Pete, you just keep doin' wotcha doin', mate.
This is what we came for, and the production quality leaves AC36 looking (and sounding!) like amateur hour.
Score: 9.5/10 - because nothing and no one ever gets 10!
I am very very proud of yous all boys you're doing a amazing job. Well done boys. God bless. 🖐️🖐️👍👍♥️💙💛💚🌹🌹🌹🌿🌿🌿🌿
Thank you for the coverage of this
Kiwis can really fly 😊
Let's f**kin go boys!
Plain simple don't stuff your mouth or you will choke.
Brits went ballsy first at the start and got flattened by the Kiwis
Not sure about ballsy, think they set themselves up for what Pete did to them. Two days running bad tactics by Ainslie.
If their tactic had worked it would have been impressive and laudable.
To not have tried a new tactic would have been pointless and uncompetitive
A match hardness has not emerged yet in the Ineos team..
@@enzeda yeah, I can agree with that.
@@DaveandGinny972hmm still think that?.
@@Trajan2401 yes I do. There were a few moments in this race where INEOS showed promise, and clearly Ben and Dylan have made some very good starts since this.
More faster ETNZ. . Proud of yous cyclops, .. Nathan Burling,..Maloney, Blair. and all the members of the crew...
Go ETNZ Don't give them a chance. Nathan Burling and group go faster and faster. Love yours all guys❤❤❤❤❤❤
Hard to see past the NZ boat, esp with Pete and Nathan helming. Brits beaten by almost a kilometre and a minute, dropping back all the time. Didn't Ben step back from helming at one point in the build up?
They got smoked by the Flying Kiwis! Woohoo! Let's go Team New Zealand!
Glad to see someone has mentioned to Steven McIvor that its not in fact Batholona!!
That’s the correct pronunciation
No fair.
Facts don't belong in a YT comment section!
\irony OFF
@@smudge6831 Not the way he was trying to! My Partner is speaks fluent Spanish and even she said "WTF was that!"...
The red on NZ sails actually looks like a red sock ❤😢
It's the Easter egg of our boat when you know you know 💪🏽
@@Lennyfromwork arrh, the lucky red socks😍
Those were the days! I've still got mine.
Another shocking start from the Brits.
As a kiwi I’m rapt to see ETNZ and their yacht performing so well. But as a lover of yacht racing and the AC, the sport needs much closer competition than this, to retain and attract spectators. And competitors.
As a Brit I have to say that you guys really have nailed these AC 75's and your set up and teamwork is the perfect package. But, there is a lack of boat on boat like we used to get.
So true. It leaves an empty feeling, a non match, a non race,a non event.
It’s early days
@@enzeda i agree there's no racing after the start its either following each other or someone falls of the foils or something breaks every time it becomes boring
Yes must agree , perhaps it's the constraints of the course . Back in the day courses we larger and boats so much slower, a slightly larger course my offer more opportunities for passing.
Kiwi design choice for a start optimised boat seems to be working. Looking forward to magic vs kiwi
Yes, a great job. The format is so dependent on the start as in race passing seems to be a rarity.
Well done Britain Ingles. Well done boys.
Ice man does it again
UP DA KIWIS TOO GOOD BOYS
The only difference between this and Ineos of old is that they managed to get back up on the foils quite quickly. So that is at least some progress for them !!!
Just checked the team New Zealand boat what's hidden in there mate unbelievable speeding 😢
That Race Start was great TNZ stunk in Final GP Race and it was over USA look strong looking forward to that race
Shirley really floats my boat.
After this thrashing who wouldve thought the same 2 sides would be in the final
Kia kaha NZ
That is a sexy-looking boat.
I don't care if we're "TOO" good for everyone.
well, actually I do, because 'winning is everything'
I cannot and will never understand how the nz government said no to helping the team hold this competition in NZ.
They needed to fix the problems they had regarding who pays for what,etc…..and get on with it……..
Thank you NZ we at Barcelona are absolutely ecstatic at your decision not to host the cup and all the BILLIONS that are coming our way…..!
If you happen to win this cup ,
Remember we would be very happy to host again…..cause that’s what friends are for right?
I thought they offered to pony up $50m (?) but Dalts thought he couldn't bridge the gap
(in order to hold a compelling contest, and yet have a fighting chance of defending it?
It wasn't the government fault, team NZ didn't want to defend in New Zealand. Get your facts straight
Wheres VMG Data..gaining 20 seconds upwind ? Burling and Outteridge wow...they will be very hard to beat. Would we be thr first team to win it offshore, defend home, defend offshore ?
I would have expected better from Sir Ben. It's not like he hasn't sailed these boats before. Ineos Brittania have a lot of work to do if they don't want to be the first boat eliminated when it kicks off. Surely they must of realised that having the rudder foil pulling the stern down a bit creates drag so less speed. Should of stuck with the rest of the teams until maybe in the future when they understand these beasts better, then they can experiment more.
Whilst I enjoy the racing I do think the organiser need to up the complexity by re-introducing the leeward windward tracks into the racing course otherwise its drag racing hoping something wont break.
Robin
Not sure I follow you. All the legs are leeward xept for those which are windward. Isn't that enough?
I surely hope that the more consequential later races will be released with the unobscured crew comms available for each team. It's just too depressing to have the boats approaching a mark (eg M6 in this race) only for McIvor to talk over their canvassing of their options with mundane info about leg number and such, information which could far more appropriately and less disruptively be conveyed numerically by text or icons in a corner of the screen.
McIvor is soo cringe anyway
@@jdcolnago3 I'm not sure it's entirely his fault. I get the impression his producer might keep him on a rather tight leash. If so, I wish they'd find a better producer.
Ouch… for both INEOS Britannia and the AC. Another race where it was all about the start. Hopefully in the AC itself, we see real competition. Yachting needs that.
It is up to the competitors, if they make huge mistakes like Britannia it isn’t a fault of the organization.
At least Arogant Lord Ainslie can return to his P-class without a glimpse of humility?
British made a mess of the start* sadly Not near good enough* as expected !
@@tamangish They are still not match-hardened so close to the start of the Challenger series.
Well well well the same 2 boats in the final who would've thought.
I wonder when were gonna see these boats sail around small islands.
Great technology, impressive speed, boring racing!
Hopefully it will get tougher and more exciting when the racing actually counts for something.
Especially when you are losing 😂.
We're almost like the villain of the story so far...
Hopefully we get Darth Vader entrance theme music when the regatta actually begins.
all dressed in black like Lidya Ko's gold medal-winning skirt
Ineloss is AWOL again
Have these Brits sailed before? 😆👍
Nearly 500 metres behind after the first leg....... She's not a fast boat but if they don't get the starts right then it will be an early bath for Brittania
Wheres Kenny? Come on Guys.......Love the kiwi seppo combo.
Are all the yachts the same design?(
Not sure who thinks that boats finishing a kilometer apart is match racing. Commentators have nothing to talk about. "Ghost boat" is a complete waste of computer code. The Americas Cup has become a special interest group for nerds who have turned what used to be a brilliant spectator sport into a complete farce.
The americas cup was a farce for about a hundred years. Match racing against boats which had to sail across the world to challenge.
Would have been a lot closer if ineos didn't cock up the start
They would have learned nothing about TNZs playbook and how to avoid its traps by playing safe and going for a "least worst" startline outcome.
They can't realistically hope to teach TNZ many lessons yet, but all the more reason to maximise what they can learn in these early races where points are trivial.
2 boat prelims is boring the life out of the AC
What does imeoseam
Anyone know why Ben ditched Giles Scott? Was there some sort of disagreement or is it just an ego thing?
I would probably say it’s an Ainslie thing…
Ineos theme song is " there's no business, like slow business"
Why are team GB so bad ?!?!?!?its painful to watch & you have to feel sorry for the sponsor. They must be devastated.
Kenny Reid? Where is Kenny?
INEOS Britannia: but is it the boat or is it the crew?
Or is Ainslie being clever? I wouldn't put it past him.
We may never get to know if the boat is competitive as the crew is off the pace
Ainslie is no slouch, he has plenty of experience, if the performance of your equipment is not on point there is not a lot you can do. It is early days but if it continues it does not bode well for Ineos.
@@TheAllEngineering Respect for that, is the F1 input counterproductive on the water?
@@enzeda Ineos had F1 support for development in the last Americas Cup. The publicity about that went quiet when they had foiling issues. So last time F1 input did not work for them.
@@TheAllEngineering It remains to be seen then if history will repeat itself or if they can pull a rabbit out of the hat.
OMG … what a complete cock up of a start… c’mon buck up Team GB… you know your boat is slow so you have to nail these starts!
NZ the GOAT 🇳🇿.
Ineos v Emirates not joking but I reckon I could of started better than that wtf
My money is on magic she's a work of art the kiwi's have got competition for sure but magic makes ineos look like an old sofa
Been sailing for over 50 years. Loved the America’s Cup. Now it’s just Boats flying across the water. Not much in tactics. Win the start then just go around the course till you finish. Pretty boring.
Especially when you lose 😂.
I would like the race course longer and wider,but then the cyclors would have heart attacks before the finish.Maybe a 12 man crew with four extra cyclors..like in rugby,guys coming off the bench...Steven McIvor is a cringe commentator
These races are soooo boring. Bring back mono-hulls. I miss the sail trimming, spinnakers and the boat creaking. Picking the side to sail and the wind shifts. Go Team NZ!
They are mono hulls 😆
Los ingleses no tienen nada que hacer son realmemte malos navegando, como toda su historia 😂😂😂 viva!!! NZL
Yeh nah not sure what your smoking but you need to stop , reality has escaped you. Being an avid kiwi sailor of some 60 odd years I along with my compatriots have nothing but high regards for Ben and his team along with England who have done massively well on the water throughout the years in many classes so can suggest you pull your head in before you make a bigger fool of yourself while understanding this is a class where the difference between glory and pain is measured in milliseconds yuh egg
It's a good job the British have a better sailing history then 😀😊
Lol now you are just trying to get your own back - for something. As long as it's not Brexit (the most stupid idea in history), I don't care. Yes we haven't raced well in the first two matches. We got caught after the start by Alinghi, which is very unusual
you couldn't even find yourself if you played hide and seek on your own.
@@enzeda lol 😂 good troll!
Sir Ben Ainslie,nice to see you again after the 2021 America’s Cup in New Zealand. I must say that you did not learn anything after today’s match race against Emirates Team,the same mistake in the beginning of the race same as 2021. I know why, your arrogance is visible you should be more humble and this will lead you to better results.
maybe drop the ''Sir''
IT IS NOT 2 AND o BUT 2 NIL, O IS NOT A NUMBER!
you want to be on the beach, go then.
kind of boring. Only the start is exciting but after that?
especially when you lose 😂.
The one team I want NZ to beat is the USA They weren’t good sports at the OLYMPICS. SO KIA KAHA EMERATES TEAM ❣️❣️❣️NZ
For heaven's sake, turn the boat feed off!
A better idea, in my view, would be to shut up the routine update /continuity chatter during and adjacent to manoeuvres, so we can actually hear the sailors' thought processes, rather than listen to speculation about them.
Racing the 12m back in the days was much more interesting. Watching a race (with fascinating boats) like this...just boring. After the start nothing happens.
What a snooze fest 🥱
especially when you are useless at it 😂.
As a man interested in crewed sailing competitions I have never seen a "race" as dull and boring as this one. The sport is being killed by technology right here.
Signing out.
The problem facing the America's Cup today is that the technology has advanced so far that, if you make the smallest mistake like falling off the foils, you are generally a goner. This has happened (to NZ's advantage) in both their races so far. This time it happened before Ineos was even over the start line and makes for very boring watching, - NZ were over a kilometer ahead at one stage, so there are no tacking duels etc like we used to see in the monohulls. The sport seems to be engineering its own demise.
This whole regatta has been garbage. The technology may be interesting but the racing such as it is pointless.
The early LV races were almost always thus, last AC in particular, but the finals were spellbinding
especially when you lose 😂.
So why you watching ??
who cares, hope they lose..
I hope Luna Rossa wins so that they take away the Kiwis' ability to decide which boat to race with. Great sailors, but incapable of developing a boat concept that can guarantee spectacle and real sporting competition.
It is not possible to see a sport that is decided at the start and that makes it impossible to come back unless someone else makes a mistake.
Does anyone remember how good the America's Cup organised by Alinghi in Valencia was?
Yes, as a sailor of the 32nd AC in Valencia, the last 4 generations have been so disappointing to watch, to the point that I don't even follow it anymore.
So you think that Luna Rossa won't design a boat concept that they try to hold all the advantages over other challengers? Delusional!
@@peter_peter_pumpkin_eater Certainly not, all I would need is for them to develop a boat concept that is accessible to all and that at least gives the appearance of competition and the possibility of reversing fortunes, as was done with IACC.
Did you even watch the NZ vs Prada final in the last cup? It was 3-3 at one point with great racing.
This is early days in the comp. To write off this class now is silly. Every Americas cup is dull in the early stages. Some teams are off the pace, and playing catch-up. It’s no different now to 50 years back. The technology in 2024 is just light years ahead. 100% as we progress through to the latter stages and the weaker teams are eliminated, and we are left with the serious contenders we will see some incredible racing. And the matchups are close.
With all the technology gone into these yachts, would be good if the commentary services had more improved coverage, to match these sailing machine s, as they get around the course .....quite a boring viewing otherwise.
My God what a shit start. It was obvious the kiwi’s goal and what the Brits tryed to do but they were too slow. 🫣 ingenuity
I’m so happy for the kiwi boys here’s for a very successful defence Kia kaha guys, ❤🩷💝💝💝