One thing I noticed that should have been addressed on this fitment is to take note on where the load lifter is attached on the shoulder Strap!! On this example it is at the very top of his shoulder almost cresting over the back side, that should be on the front side of the crest of the shoulder almost at the Clavicle but not past as it will create a hot spot on the bone! Great video tho!!
From someone someone with no experience and who never thought my back would allow me to do this. Thank you I just took a short walk with most of my camp setup for Moto camping and my shoulder and back pain was pretty minimal.. A couple min with a normal frameless pack with even 5lb and Im in pain..
@OutdoorVitals I bought my shadowlight about a year ago but haven't used it much except on day trips. I took it out for a big trip this past weekend and noticed that my Head hits the Frame if I lean my head back even a small amount. I've gone through the steps in this video twice to make sure I've got it positioned correctly. I'm 5 foot 9 and a half, 155 lbs and bought the Regular (the little tag sewn in says Medium) with the small hip belt (hip belt fits perfectly and sits around my belly button). I'm also an OV member
I have a problem with the hip belt location since my hip bones are less than an inch lower than my belly button! I'm pretty much stuck with having the belt around my waist. And in spite of only being 5'3," my torso length is 18" so fitting a pack gets pretty tricky for me.
I've got a 50 L ospray ati-gravity pack, what would be max weight limit for this pack? I'm normally 28-35 pounds with water and food. Appreciate the video.
So this is what I thought, but my army issued ruck is too short I think. I need the hip belt over my hip bones what makes it super hard to breath. But otherwise my shoulders kill me the loadlifter straps are not at an angle. What do you think is the best solution?
Hey i jist baught your cs40 pack , my problem is the hip belt straps are just a little bit to short. Now im hiking and working out to loose weight but is there anything you recommend to extend the straps ? Thanks
@TaysonWhittaker I appreciate the response, ya I purchased the xl pack. I figured out I could remove the webbing strap from the upper adjustment point and installed new buckles , it works perfect. You guys made an awesome pack. Ty!
Yes on the hips, but in the process of placing the hip belt across your navel you lose roughly 25% of you breathing capacity. Loading your pack less than about 20 pounds doesn't require a hip belt except necessary to reduce pack swaying. What you're presenting is worthwhile for those using the typical backpack. However, backpacks have 5 to 8 bio-mechanical inefficiencies that reduce speed, endurance, comfort and induces fatigue. Lowering the weight & material type volume provides increased speed, endurance, comfort, safety and reduces fatigue. For example, my DIY heat reflective, breathable, wind and water repellant anorak weighs 3.3 ounces, its' volume is about 4 to 5 times less than a fleece zip turtle neck long sleeve shirt weighing just under 1/2 pound without a hood. The anorak could be related to a hard shell jack weighing 3/4 pound or more and about 7 times the volume of the anorak. Obviously, a hard shell jack is not heat reflective. My DIY Dyneema 4.7 ounce tent, 5 ft X 9 ft X 3.5 ft high is another example. Other clothing such as heat reflective over-pants, leggings, shoulder cloak, etc., a person could obviously reduce their backpacks volume and associative weight. That assumes that they're storing the clothing and not wearing it during the hike. It's' all in the way you approach a problem. My patented hiking and running packs eliminate all of the bio-mechanical inefficiencies of the backpack.
Thanks for this info. I'll replicate next time I load my Shadowlite.
Oh man, thank you. Used it today and I felt like a real backpacker, Love the 45L Shadowlight. Great pack for a senior.
I've already seen a few videos on the subject, but for me your explanation is the best so far.
Thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
One thing I noticed that should have been addressed on this fitment is to take note on where the load lifter is attached on the shoulder Strap!! On this example it is at the very top of his shoulder almost cresting over the back side, that should be on the front side of the crest of the shoulder almost at the Clavicle but not past as it will create a hot spot on the bone! Great video tho!!
Getting my Rhyolite pack ready for a Hike on the Superior Trail here in Minnesota. I will be refitting it using these tips. Thank you.
From someone someone with no experience and who never thought my back would allow me to do this. Thank you I just took a short walk with most of my camp setup for Moto camping and my shoulder and back pain was pretty minimal.. A couple min with a normal frameless pack with even 5lb and Im in pain..
@OutdoorVitals I bought my shadowlight about a year ago but haven't used it much except on day trips. I took it out for a big trip this past weekend and noticed that my Head hits the Frame if I lean my head back even a small amount. I've gone through the steps in this video twice to make sure I've got it positioned correctly. I'm 5 foot 9 and a half, 155 lbs and bought the Regular (the little tag sewn in says Medium) with the small hip belt (hip belt fits perfectly and sits around my belly button). I'm also an OV member
I'm glad for this info as I just started packing my new shadowlight
Wonderful!
Excellent tips Tayson.
Thanks
Nate
So… for us chunky dudes. Suggestions? Proper hip carry makes it hard to breathe but around the waist doesn’t work well either.
Yeah, before I can make any adjustments I have to find my hipbones. *poking into fat* ...they're in there somewhere. lol
I have a problem with the hip belt location since my hip bones are less than an inch lower than my belly button! I'm pretty much stuck with having the belt around my waist. And in spite of only being 5'3," my torso length is 18" so fitting a pack gets pretty tricky for me.
Impressive to see the guy from ZZ Top knowledgeable about backpacks as well!
His next video will be about backpacking with “cheap sunglasses”!
Great Info Tayson…love the video!
Glad it was helpful!
I've got a 50 L ospray ati-gravity pack, what would be max weight limit for this pack? I'm normally 28-35 pounds with water and food. Appreciate the video.
I would say that’s good weight
Thanks Hunter!
So this is what I thought, but my army issued ruck is too short I think. I need the hip belt over my hip bones what makes it super hard to breath.
But otherwise my shoulders kill me the loadlifter straps are not at an angle.
What do you think is the best solution?
Thank you. I definitely wasn't utilizing my pack correctly
Hey i jist baught your cs40 pack , my problem is the hip belt straps are just a little bit to short. Now im hiking and working out to loose weight but is there anything you recommend to extend the straps ? Thanks
It sounds like you might need to size up your hipbelt. We sell the hip belts separately, so you can purchase a larger size if needed.
@TaysonWhittaker I appreciate the response, ya I purchased the xl pack. I figured out I could remove the webbing strap from the upper adjustment point and installed new buckles , it works perfect. You guys made an awesome pack. Ty!
Great video. Thanks!
Glad you liked it!
When are you guys shipping the 1/8 inch pads? I purchased mine the moment it dropped.
They're now shipping.
Got mine yesterday and it's rad
good tips
Glad you think so!
Very good info!
Glad it was helpful!
Thx - i've been looking for sth. like this!
Glad I could help!
I see the problem; some people are wearing their belts wrong, and this messes up the fit for their backpack. Just say no to crack!
Hahah it really looks like I'm wearing a backpack wrong😅😅🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
this helped
👍
Thanks. Shalom.
Super Newb here... Should the pack sit on the hip bones on women as well?
yes
Thanks for the tutorial, but man that pack looks *heavy.*
FWIW - I was wearing my pack correctly. 💪
This is not correct - it’s the top of pelvis not hip bone. Hip bone is way down below your waistband.
Yes on the hips, but in the process of placing the hip belt across your navel you lose roughly 25% of you breathing capacity. Loading your pack less than about 20 pounds doesn't require a hip belt except necessary to reduce pack swaying. What you're presenting is worthwhile for those using the typical backpack. However, backpacks have 5 to 8 bio-mechanical inefficiencies that reduce speed, endurance, comfort and induces fatigue. Lowering the weight & material type volume provides increased speed, endurance, comfort, safety and reduces fatigue. For example, my DIY heat reflective, breathable, wind and water repellant anorak weighs 3.3 ounces, its' volume is about 4 to 5 times less than a fleece zip turtle neck long sleeve shirt weighing just under 1/2 pound without a hood. The anorak could be related to a hard shell jack weighing 3/4 pound or more and about 7 times the volume of the anorak. Obviously, a hard shell jack is not heat reflective. My DIY Dyneema 4.7 ounce tent, 5 ft X 9 ft X 3.5 ft high is another example. Other clothing such as heat reflective over-pants, leggings, shoulder cloak, etc., a person could obviously reduce their backpacks volume and associative weight. That assumes that they're storing the clothing and not wearing it during the hike. It's' all in the way you approach a problem. My patented hiking and running packs eliminate all of the bio-mechanical inefficiencies of the backpack.
Luckily I wear mine correctly!! It only takes a few miles with a ill fitted pack to ruin your day.
You’re wearing your facial hair wrong.
The hip thing wasn't common sense for people? I don't know what to say to you guys.
Hmmmm......nope. according to this I was wearing all my rucks 100% correct so.......clickbait???