The first half of the th-cam.com/users/postUgkx3ICSK6nSknaL_45CU2NmFSoXjarGMDiJ book is everything about wood: types, tools, finishes, setting up shop etc. The second half is all about doing projects for inside and outside of the home. The color pictures are helpful. After reading a dozen of these types of books, this is probably the best overall (layout, color photos, plans). Only detraction is that many of the projects use a table saw/router/planer, which are usually expensive and take up space, so the plans are less friendly to newcomers and the budget conscious. But I know I can use a drill, circular saw or a jigsaw to make the projects.
Who needs a hardwood oiled Roubo bench when you can use a couple of trestles and some cruddy old plywood? 😂👍🏻. Excellent work and a lovely result 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Curious if you have an idea what the cost is per beam in wood and glue. What's the average start to finish time for a beam? And most importantly do you have pictures of how you used them? This is a fantastic idea!
I played this video very much. You are a real master, thank you, hello from Russia, I really love DIY. Happy New Year, health and happiness to you and your loved ones
Question: what did you use for glue, binding agent if you prefer. Epoxy, I guess. Or some extra strong pva stuff? I didn't see you do the gluing. Strange, that. But hey, very good job.
Bad ass I have a Frend that makes free floating stairs in place cinda like that but he has to cut the plywood in radius strips and use a power planer and a hole lot of sandpaper. Cool video.
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Great video! Very entertaining to see all the hard work behind them. Im also very curious to know where those go?
Glad you like it! Im planning on making facebook page or instagram soon where I'l post all the projects you dont see in videos, I'l let you know when it comes up!
Awesome technique. Can you use this with light red meranti wood. Making a perfola for outdoor where temperature goes as high as 50 centigrade/120 farenheit. Can i make curved shape using this.
Yes you can use this technique but different glue for meranti. I would suggest epoxy glue and important step is to wipe the surfaces with acetone before gluing.
Also saw your blade guard tied back. Guys would show up on job sites like that. I'd comment a "professional" didn't have to do that. Usually by lunch, no tie back on guards. The attitude is based on experiences of having to halt the project while someone cleans up the spatter and I would get to haul them to the e room to get stitched.
I must say you are 100% right. I'ts been like that since I first got it from a friend who worked here probably 10 years ago or so.. Never thought much of it but after reading this comment it's coming down first time I'l use it..
Hey Adam, really glad you like it ! :) both clamps and that planer thing are home made. I couldn't find clamps that would be strong enough because sometimes I need to bend much bigger cross section and they would just warp after several uses.. So I had to make some heavy duty ones!
Nice. It looks like you do a lot of glulam, or laminated beam stuff. I always have to order those. But I love how you have it set up, might have to start making some of my own!
Dude! You have to show an install picture!! Nice job, it's great to have access to large tools! What's tha machine called that cuts out that drum shape on the beam ends?
Hi there. THanks for the swift reply. Can you lastly tell me the wood you use most. I know it's spruce but the species name. There are so many different ones it is most confusing.
Any chance these, as constructed with only glue, are / can be structural? If not, can they be made structural by through-bolts (then covered by another skin of wood glued on each side to hide them)?
These are structural. Glued surfaces if done correctly are stronger than wood itself. For instance, if you break glulam piece in a lab, break never happens along glued surface . No need for bolts.
These are my third version, first were too complicated, second were too weak and third are finally just right. Third time's the charm I guess. I'l make video of making one soon..
I have always been curious about curved beams were made. Thanks for this video. Also, is this the same method used by ancient ship makers used to make curved beams for building ships? Also, when you clamped the wood planks to form the bend, did you nail them/paste them together? How did the planks stay together?
I used two component melamine glue.. Ancient ships were not made by this technique. they were mostly built by connecting different planks with dowels and wedges, previously trimmed down to shape and size ..
An old ship building wood bending technique would be known as fire bending where a beam would be propped over a fire and weights added in certain spots to bend it with time as a result of the heat of the fire and gravity on the weights
Glad you like it! I use two component melamine glue. It is mostly used for laminating structural beam because it doesn't lose its mechanical properties during elevated temperatures in case of fire.
@@lignumchannel Was there a minimum temperature that had to be maintained for this glue to cure and what were the personal precautions you had to take to use it.
please respond to this question. do you apply glue to both sides of the lamination?I glue a lot of stuff. and tend to err on the side of caution. Cohesion, adhesion and wettability. Rub the glue into both sides of the joint.I probably use too much glue (not cheap), never had a glue failure (cool), yet I wonder.With the price of material these days one cannot afford failure. Hope to hear from you.Best regards,Don.
When laminating you should always apply glue on both sides because in contact with air, a thin layer appears on the surface of glue (doesn't have to be visible but it's there) which doesn't adhere so good to wood but does to another layer of glue. Especially if there is a lot of layers and it takes longer time in between applying glue and clamping. Also more glue means that all imperfections are filled. Melamine glue I use is designed to have good adhesion properties even with thick layer.
Thank you. Valuable information that I was unclear on. Although I have always applied glue to both sides of a joint and have never had a joint fail. But now I am more convinced that there are no shortcuts.
efficient use on tree's wood too since I always assumed it was done by finding a big fat tree and using a chain saw and cutting out beam arch shapes, leaving much of the rest of the tree to rot in the woods so YOU can have arched windows(as I do) well that would be wasteful now wouldn't it! xD why from now on i will use blocks of strait cut wood and flexible strait strips for my arching. oh well, oops! /
They could have been made hollow, and would be just as strong, lighter and less heavy saving a lot of wood. No one would be any wiser as the external finish would be exactly the same.
@UCfSdejZFhw0rrDFlj9McyNA Did you make a video of how you made those clamps? The clamps are very clever. Seems like you could pull a cruise ship into dock with those clamps!
Great video guys, thanks for sharing. It sounds like the glue you used might be ok for an outdoor pergola. How much time do you have to work with it before it sets up?
I used it many times for outdoor projects and it behaves well.. It has an open work time around 45 minutes, It can be released from mold after 8 hours..
Thanks for the reply. Another question. How did you decide on how thick each board should be? Are there any tables based on radius of curvature and wood modulus or other wood properties? And do you have rule of thumb for spring back?
Hi, nice video and very comprehensive explanation. But I still have a question concerning bent lamination: Would it also be possible to glue up "curved beams" from individual pieces / "boards" that are shorter than the final beam (for example make a 9 foot beam out of two 4.5 foot "boards", than three 3 foot "boards" than again two 4.5 foot "boards" and maybe only use 9 foot "boards" for the top and bottom layers)? I hope you understand what I mean. Thanks in advance
Yes, of course it can be done. You should only be careful not to repeat the cut in the same cross section because it would be the same as if you drilled holes one above the other. If you do it this way, you only need to make beam one layer thicker than calculated cross section should be.. I hope I helped..
If for example you need a beam which would hold a certain weight, and for that weight you get a calculated beam cross section, idk, lets say 10cm width and 15 cm height.. if you use 3cm thick boards to make a beam, normaly you would need 5 layers for 15cm height (if all boards continuous withought a cut), but if you use shorter boards for each layer, you should use 6 layers and get 18 cm height to compensate for all the cuts.
The first half of the th-cam.com/users/postUgkx3ICSK6nSknaL_45CU2NmFSoXjarGMDiJ book is everything about wood: types, tools, finishes, setting up shop etc. The second half is all about doing projects for inside and outside of the home. The color pictures are helpful. After reading a dozen of these types of books, this is probably the best overall (layout, color photos, plans). Only detraction is that many of the projects use a table saw/router/planer, which are usually expensive and take up space, so the plans are less friendly to newcomers and the budget conscious. But I know I can use a drill, circular saw or a jigsaw to make the projects.
That modified planer to cut the radius in the end is SAVAGE! You take care around that thing
Why do you make your work so appealing that im almost literally wanting to cry for not getting to touch one!!!!!!!!
:D Wow Yinka I can see you watched many of my videos! Thank you so much! I'm glad you like my work!
You guys have my dream job! There is something about working with wood, especially glued beams
Great video 👏👏
Whoa
Never seen the machine you used to cut out the coves in the end.
Very cool.
This video has so much to do w/ calculus and beam theory it’s amazing
I LOVE THIS VIDEO. I NEED TO LEARN THIS TO BE ABLE TO MAKE UNIQUE FURNITURE
3:05 that machine is the stuff of nightmares. 😂
Sweet job makes me miss the woodshop 👌👀
I had that same makita saw for 15 years! She served me well!
Who needs a hardwood oiled Roubo bench when you can use a couple of trestles and some cruddy old plywood? 😂👍🏻. Excellent work and a lovely result 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
those are vary nice strong looking custom clamps...
No caption, no naration, but the image speaks for itself,, perfecto
looks awesome...and i like those clamps....
thank you Robert! I should make a video about making clamps! :)
Nicely done to show how to 'do it' simply! Thank you!
You are hired!
Curious if you have an idea what the cost is per beam in wood and glue. What's the average start to finish time for a beam? And most importantly do you have pictures of how you used them? This is a fantastic idea!
Very nice beams! I love your heavy duty clamps with screw gun and the open hauncher cove cutter is awesome!
Thank you for sharing this video~ Curved Beams look very nice! 😃
I played this video very much. You are a real master, thank you, hello from Russia, I really love DIY. Happy New Year, health and happiness to you and your loved ones
Question: what did you use for glue, binding agent if you prefer. Epoxy, I guess. Or some extra strong pva stuff? I didn't see you do the gluing. Strange, that. But hey, very good job.
This is one of the best things I have ever seen before!!! Awesome 👏🏼
Easy when you have the space and the tools!
Bez alata nema zanata.. Old Croatian saying which would translate something like.. no tools, no craft :D
Great no fuss video guys thank you very much
very nice. good prestain
It still amazes me how Asian/Chinese people built houses/castles with curved beams on their roof hundreds of years ago.
got the same makita, well built.
Bad ass I have a Frend that makes free floating stairs in place cinda like that but he has to cut the plywood in radius strips and use a power planer and a hole lot of sandpaper.
Cool video.
Great video! Very entertaining to see all the hard work behind them. Im also very curious to know where those go?
Thank you Tuomas! :) I will make an update on fb or somewhere when the whole cover is done..
very nice, could you advise me which glue to use to glue? Thanks
Gonna watch this a lot
Wow great video! Thank you for sharing!
Thank you for watching!
nice work guys
Thank you! :)
Wow u guys r real good. N i love the professional 3m mask, found no one here wearing this mask (or even a cheap mask) here
Yes, those mask are good, just have to trim my beard a bit more.. Like this, some particles still get trough..
@@lignumchannel With masks, you're either 100% sealed and protected or 0%. Please shave.
thanks for posting that, would that laaminated beam survie outdoors ?
Awesome... I'd love to see what those beams were used for. Those clamps are BEAST, nice work.
Glad you like it! Im planning on making facebook page or instagram soon where I'l post all the projects you dont see in videos, I'l let you know when it comes up!
Sometimes the internet comes up with something interesting, like this video, nice work and a sub.
Thank you man! Hope to keep it interesting in the future :)
Intro is so satisfying
Awesome! Would love to see where they are installed!
Thank you! They aren't yet installed but will be in a few weeks.. It will be an entrance cover. I'l make sure to post it when it will be finished..
lignum cool
Super cool!
Awesome technique. Can you use this with light red meranti wood. Making a perfola for outdoor where temperature goes as high as 50 centigrade/120 farenheit. Can i make curved shape using this.
Yes you can use this technique but different glue for meranti. I would suggest epoxy glue and important step is to wipe the surfaces with acetone before gluing.
@@lignumchannel Thanks alot and appreciate the quick reply. Starting the project this week, your reply saved alot of wood for me. Cheers
Very nice!
Super amazing
Brain candy very nice!;-)Thankyou
great stuff....I love all the designs and making of the products
Thank you so much Nikil!
This is flipping awesome!
That looks awesome keep up the great work!
Thank you Thijn Speksnijder!
My god, what craftsmen
so lovely.
esto es arte y un buen trabajo
What glue did you use?
Many thanks OMG
What kind of wood ?
Also saw your blade guard tied back. Guys would show up on job sites like that. I'd comment a "professional" didn't have to do that. Usually by lunch, no tie back on guards. The attitude is based on experiences of having to halt the project while someone cleans up the spatter and I would get to haul them to the e room to get stitched.
I must say you are 100% right. I'ts been like that since I first got it from a friend who worked here probably 10 years ago or so.. Never thought much of it but after reading this comment it's coming down first time I'l use it..
You're obviously not a framer. And if you are you're probably pretty shitty. That's what we do; as professionals.
when u cut both edge, how do you know where to cut to have the same on heigh at same place on each beam
You use one as a template that you have cut ,then you put on top of the uncut beam line up the beams and the mark you cuts .
Awesome Grgur. Did you make those clamps or buy them? And that open planer thing that put the detail on the end is absolutely crazy cool.
Hey Adam, really glad you like it ! :) both clamps and that planer thing are home made. I couldn't find clamps that would be strong enough because sometimes I need to bend much bigger cross section and they would just warp after several uses.. So I had to make some heavy duty ones!
Nice. It looks like you do a lot of glulam, or laminated beam stuff. I always have to order those. But I love how you have it set up, might have to start making some of my own!
lignum ñ
Dude! You have to show an install picture!! Nice job, it's great to have access to large tools! What's tha machine called that cuts out that drum shape on the beam ends?
I will post an end result as soon as I get my facebook page going.. That machine has no name yet :) .. It's home made..
love the music what is it?
thanks for sharing this videoo. what is the precut machine and the program? it looks really fantastic!
Amazing, you lads are very skilled. 👍
Hi there. THanks for the swift reply. Can you lastly tell me the wood you use most. I know it's spruce but the species name. There are so many different ones it is most confusing.
Picea abies and Abies alba are the ones I use the most..
Bonito trabajo saludos
Wow, very cool technique!
Are the curved boards regular pinewood? Can this be done with any softwood?
I like that suicide cove cutter you made up. Are you from down under?
XD Thats cool machine name! I should call it that, it suits perfectly.. I'm from other hemisphere, hehe.. Croatia :)
Any chance these, as constructed with only glue, are / can be structural? If not, can they be made structural by through-bolts (then covered by another skin of wood glued on each side to hide them)?
These are structural. Glued surfaces if done correctly are stronger than wood itself. For instance, if you break glulam piece in a lab, break never happens along glued surface . No need for bolts.
What makes the wood stay bent permanently?
does this method work on a solid peice of wood or no
Vary informative thanks
love this sort of craftsmanship
Are those wicked clamps handmade/custom?
These are my third version, first were too complicated, second were too weak and third are finally just right. Third time's the charm I guess. I'l make video of making one soon..
lignum nice 👍🏼
Nice job sir. How well does the surface handle wood glue spills/drips?
I have always been curious about curved beams were made. Thanks for this video. Also, is this the same method used by ancient ship makers used to make curved beams for building ships?
Also, when you clamped the wood planks to form the bend, did you nail them/paste them together? How did the planks stay together?
I used two component melamine glue.. Ancient ships were not made by this technique. they were mostly built by connecting different planks with dowels and wedges, previously trimmed down to shape and size ..
Boats rarely use laminations because the glue doesn't tend to expand with the wood when the wood sucks up water thus laminations fall apart with time
An old ship building wood bending technique would be known as fire bending where a beam would be propped over a fire and weights added in certain spots to bend it with time as a result of the heat of the fire and gravity on the weights
More modern wood bending for boats is done with steam bending techniques usually with a steam box setup
AWESOME!!!
But now I'm trying to figure out what the hell I need curved beams for in any and all upcoming construction projects I might engage in...
Glad you like it! When you get the idea, don't forget to share the result. I would love to see what you come up with!
Any spring back when they were released from the clamps?
Yes but just a few mm, not much to affect the design..
Hey buddy. Where are you guys located ?
I would like for you guys to design me some wood beams for my current house in construction
Great video. What stain are you using. ?
I use Slovenian Belinka belton and beltop uv+ stain.
Nice work. What glue do you use ?? Is ther a special glue for these beams ?
Glad you like it! I use two component melamine glue. It is mostly used for laminating structural beam because it doesn't lose its mechanical properties during elevated temperatures in case of fire.
Thanks for that
@@lignumchannel Was there a minimum temperature that had to be maintained for this glue to cure and what were the personal precautions you had to take to use it.
What did they get used for?
Great. Can you tell me what timber you are using ? Thanks
For this project I used ordinary spruce wood..
lignum U
1st step: buy a clamp company and a screw company and a glue company
please respond to this question. do you apply glue to both sides of the lamination?I glue a lot of stuff. and tend to err on the side of caution. Cohesion, adhesion and wettability. Rub the glue into both sides of the joint.I probably use too much glue (not cheap), never had a glue failure (cool), yet I wonder.With the price of material these days one cannot afford failure. Hope to hear from you.Best regards,Don.
When laminating you should always apply glue on both sides because in contact with air, a thin layer appears on the surface of glue (doesn't have to be visible but it's there) which doesn't adhere so good to wood but does to another layer of glue. Especially if there is a lot of layers and it takes longer time in between applying glue and clamping. Also more glue means that all imperfections are filled. Melamine glue I use is designed to have good adhesion properties even with thick layer.
Thank you. Valuable information that I was unclear on. Although I have always applied glue to both sides of a joint and have never had a joint fail. But now I am more convinced that there are no shortcuts.
Brilliant.
Have to admit I shat some small bricks at 3:02
Very impressive though :)
You Europeans and your small bricks, LOL.
What kind of glue did you use fro them beams
I use two component melamine glue from Akzo nobel.
AWSOME !!!
efficient use on tree's wood too since I always assumed it was done by finding a big fat tree and using a chain saw and cutting out beam arch shapes, leaving much of the rest of the tree to rot in the woods so YOU can have arched windows(as I do) well that would be wasteful now wouldn't it! xD why from now on i will use blocks of strait cut wood and flexible strait strips for my arching. oh well, oops! /
Amazing...
They could have been made hollow, and would be just as strong, lighter and less heavy saving a lot of wood. No one would be any wiser as the external finish would be exactly the same.
No.
Id love to see where you put them
how long you wait for glue to dry?
@UCfSdejZFhw0rrDFlj9McyNA Did you make a video of how you made those clamps? The clamps are very clever. Seems like you could pull a cruise ship into dock with those clamps!
Great video guys, thanks for sharing. It sounds like the glue you used might be ok for an outdoor pergola. How much time do you have to work with it before it sets up?
I used it many times for outdoor projects and it behaves well.. It has an open work time around 45 minutes, It can be released from mold after 8 hours..
Thanks for the reply. Another question. How did you decide on how thick each board should be? Are there any tables based on radius of curvature and wood modulus or other wood properties? And do you have rule of thumb for spring back?
@@johngalt1931 inn
This is great work! Can you tell me what units your measurements are in on the plan? cm or inches?
His tape only has cm.
Very cool.
*: D*
How do you curve a 2x4 for a railing?
Nice
Hi, nice video and very comprehensive explanation. But I still have a question concerning bent lamination: Would it also be possible to glue up "curved beams" from individual pieces / "boards" that are shorter than the final beam (for example make a 9 foot beam out of two 4.5 foot "boards", than three 3 foot "boards" than again two 4.5 foot "boards" and maybe only use 9 foot "boards" for the top and bottom layers)? I hope you understand what I mean. Thanks in advance
Yes, of course it can be done. You should only be careful not to repeat the cut in the same cross section because it would be the same as if you drilled holes one above the other. If you do it this way, you only need to make beam one layer thicker than calculated cross section should be.. I hope I helped..
Thanks for the quick reply. what do you mean by "you only need to make beam one layer thicker than calculated cross section should be."?
Thanks again
If for example you need a beam which would hold a certain weight, and for that weight you get a calculated beam cross section, idk, lets say 10cm width and 15 cm height.. if you use 3cm thick boards to make a beam, normaly you would need 5 layers for 15cm height (if all boards continuous withought a cut), but if you use shorter boards for each layer, you should use 6 layers and get 18 cm height to compensate for all the cuts.
lignum Ah ok. Thank you very much. Now I understand. Thank you.
No problem, glad I could help😃
nice job. Well done
Thank you! :)
Beautiful work! Noob question...could these beams, or a similarly constructed beam, be used for structural support? Thanks again
They are all over the world and have been forever. Invented in 1890.
Do you make to order?