Is StarTropics Worth Playing Today? - SNESdrunk
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My mom got this for me for Christmas the year it came out. She actually even started up the game before wrapping it to set the names on the save files to "Merry" "Xmas" "[name]". Really cool. This wound up being one of our favorite NES games, and it left a really strong impression on me.
Man, I hope you still have the original cart and kept her message for the save files.
Cool Mom, to know how to even make save files on a NES in the 80's. Not many moms play video games and in the 80's it was even less.
Anyone who likes StarTropics is all right in my book.
Thanks, and same
I was the guy that rented it, made it that far, and didn't have the letter. Yep, I was mad.
Ugh. Same here. I ended up going through every possible combination, one by one, until I FINALLY landed on 747, but then it was time to return it. FML. Now that it's out on the Switch though, I'm FINALLY getting around to finishing it. Haha.
@@2WhiteAndNerdy I've been continually starting a new save file on this game, making it past the first dungeon, forgetting what I was doing because I haven't played in so long, and starting over since at least 1998. I don't know if I'll ever finish this game after so many failed attempts. I guess I just need to sit down and play through it some time.
I didn't have to go through EVERY NUMBER bc I thought about it... The other numbers they use in the game are MEANINGFUL NUMBERS. Not just random. 747 is literally the only 3 digit number I could think of that meant something at 8 years old
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I call bullshit to that story. You did not think of the code randomly.
You are a filthy liar.
I did IN FACT rent this game and my brother and I punched in random codes for hours and we actually randomly selected the right numbers eventually. Oh children, let me tell you a story about before the internet.
Well, the code was in the manual...
What if you bought a used cartridge?
They have no idea!!
We may* didn't have the internet but we had the papynet! Bulletins Board System or BBS for the intimates. I remember an oriented BBS with lots of tricks, hints, codes for video games.
But i had the original game/booklet, so!
My buddy got the game and we played it together. He was a bit of neat freak and when it said "dip my letter in water..." he was really worried we were going to wreck the letter. It was this huge process of getting his mom to put a small amount of water on a sponge etc. In the end we got it. What a great game.
Mike Jones rapper reference was awesome
Shyeah!!
On point
Mike Jones is referencing star tropics
Who?
@@dylprof MIKE JONES
This is the number one most forgotten Nintendo franchise, far surpassing Excite Bike, Wave Rave, and even Ice Climbers. Loved the original, haven't played the sequel though
Not totale forgotten though since it will be on the mini NES. Great game.
+Ruudos agreed, very happy Nintendo is finally recognizing this franchise has ever existed (they really haven't since 1994).
I still pine for the SNES Super Star Tropics that never happened.
The sequel was alright but it didn't have the charm that the original had imo. You didn't miss too much!
Too bad that they were Western-exclusive titles, despite being Nintendo games.
The difficulty of this game cannot be understated. FUCK are some of those last levels hard, I'd almost say downright frustrating because certain enemies are not only faster than you but take away a ton of health, and when you die you start off with a mere 3 hearts. If it wasn't so frustrating I'd go back to it a lot more often because the early dungeons with fairly manageable difficulty are fun to play through.
Your videos have a perfect length to take a shit to. Thanks man!
This is the best compliment ever. Thanks for watching Miguel
Terium damn you shit fast
That's actually when I watch them too. Although one is enough I always end up watching at least two before I get off the toilet.
Love your style of review. Short, no bullshit. Render Rangers was fucking awesome. And your English friendly Super famicom games was super helpful. Keep up the great videos dude.
Thanks for watching
I live in the same city as Mike Jones :P But I'm glad I'm not the only one who obsessively talks to *EVERY* NPC I can find, even animals. If I leave an area without talking to some random bystander who I know has nothing to do with the game, my brain begins to tick, it drives me crazy. Even *after* I battle NPCs in a Pokémon game, I talk to them to see what else they have to say.
I can tell you EXACTLY how mad you'd be if you rented the game and couldn't get further than the letter. Really mad. And confused. And kind of sad. But once you found the answer in Nintendo Power or wherever I eventually found it, you'd still like the game.
You get a like from me for the Mike Jones (who?) Mike Jones reference alone SNES Drunk!
Nintendo Star Tropics needs a Remake
This game was weird & really great at the same time. I really enjoyed this game. Especially the music. Though I was never able to finish this game as a kid. It was really hard. Maybe I'll go back and play it on the Wii virtual console cause I want to check out the sequel. Never knew there was a StarTropics 2.
Star Tropics 2 is awesome
Props on the Mike Jones joke
I don’t know why, but when I think of “startropics,” I think of really stale cucumber jelly beans.
Star Tropics is my favorite NES game.
I've always wanted to play this game. But by the time I got around to it, my NES was on the fritz and I upgraded to a Sega Genesis.
That Mike Jones reference got me crackin' up.
WHO?
SNES drunk Mike Jones, on the low cause Mike Jones, he about to blow
Please review Star Tropics 2! I don't think it's been reviewed much by other youtubers!
Rented this and beat it as a kid, I brute forced the password when I got there. Can't remember if its 747 or 757.
Love this game and the sequel. Controls are much better in the sequel
You tried it out ~750 times? ^^
Shouldn't this be "NNNNNNNNNesdrunk" at the beginning? ;)
the music gives me heavy flashbacks of childhood
Playing it on Switch now. Now that we all know about the secret code, I can finally progress. Man, oh man, that spaceship level is hard as BALLS. Thank goodness for save states.
And the rewind system is a life saver!
The game is h a r d tho. But that’s my only complaint. The map design like the islands and all that is really something special! I like games that let you travel across the ocean so like 10/10 for map design. I’m at the space level now and it is gonna be rough
Save states are cheating and not how the game is intended to be played. Beat it today without such things. It was really hard but the sense of reward is obviously that much bigger when you beat it the legit way.
Fuck you and your save states/rewinds
You need save states to beat the game.
You suck.
I beat it, on original hardware with original cart.
Save states are for pussies.
I was the child whose parents bought the game and after each of us thought about it, my dad figured out soaking the included letter. My childhood was badass.
I rented the game and the paper WAS gone. Of course Nintendo Power was stil around so I was able to get the password.
Was subscribed to Nintendo Power but i got the original game back then.
It was into the game box :)
Legend of Zelda meets Dragon Quest and Blaster Master! Top-notch stuff.
It may not go back to the beginning, BUT what really kills this game in the later levels is, unlike Zelda where you merely need the requisite number of heart containers to use a better weapon, you have to have those hearts be full here. And every time you die, you're stuck with only three hearts. Chapter Seven is almost impossible to do with just the Yo-Yo. It might not be if you didn't have that "face then move" set of controls making your movements so stiff, but this is one of those deals where the enemies can move far more fluidly than you can. And having all the heart containers doesn't mean much when the enemies start taking off five hearts when they touch you.
What makes it worse is that the game keeps throwing "instant death" rooms at you at random, because the game is so much harder when you don't have one of the upgraded weapons. It basically resets you to the Yo-Yo.
One of the first games to give DRM and anti piracy.. Curse you SUB CODE!
Star Tropics 2, was not as good as the original. While the control scheme is much improved, and the difficulty is balanced there is very little challenge to it. One of the best aspects of Star Tropics was that you were required to complete some kind of puzzle or brain-teaser in the over-world to progress to the next dungeon. It felt good to figure them out. The sequel cuts that, and cuts back on puzzles in general.
I definitely disagree lol. I do think both ST 1 and 2 have slightly unique appeals to them, I think at worst they're about equal. ST2 has a much wilder story, more varies areas and music, and I feel that the 8-directional movement and smoother controls make for a slightly better overall experience. Though I'll admit the first is very charming in a special way and the more deliberate grid-based movement feels more solid in some ways. They're both about the same difficulty too, with ST2 simply being slightly less frustrating at parts like the really hair-pulling end areas of ST1.....
Love this game. Great mix of adventure and challenge. Zoda's Revenge was all right, but felt a bit less inspired.
Mike Jones.
Now there's a name I havnt heard in a long, long time.
Your uncle Dr Jones haha that's awesome
Played this with my buddies during the summer when we were kids. Had a great time playing it! Though yeah the code part sucked. No internet help or book, so yeah we got stuck there for a long long time.
I first played star tropics and in fact streamed to my twitch channel a couple of years ago when I got the NES classic which I actually got almost a year after I got the SNES classic actually as I didn't cave into the scalpers and wait until these consoles were available in stores and when they happen to be I'd get them.
Star tropics actually pissed me off because in that first dungeon I entered a room that instantly killed me. you jump into that room and then you fall in water as soon as you enter and you die. I stopped playing the game ever again knowing that. That is incredibly awful game design. How was I supposed to know that I would instantly die entering a particular room?
did Nintendo let this series die after the NES?
yes :[
Before watching, yes
I beat both games before I played a Zelda game
I was fortunate with my NES picks to buy and own (well, my mom bought...I owned). And I loved this game. I was only 9 or 10, but I was a strong gamer, and I managed to finish it. And yeah, the alien levels at the end are balls hard, especially Zoda. But I think I had the most trouble with that parrot's clue about what keys to play on the big piano. How many little kids are immediately going think of the "do re mi" scale when a parrot says "Do me so far, do me?" I actually remember thinking he was saying something dirty. Ha.
I wish I could make kick ass videos like this. GGWP
I've tried playing this game a couple times and just can't get into it. I hate the controls!
#1 Game
Nice to see some StarTropics love ^_^
Stat tropics 2 was fun, but not as good as the first. It was 2 ez
so many games, so little time
It's great to see StarTropics getting so much attention as of late! Great review!
Remind me of the yo-yo in Goonies 2, and oh yeah do a video on that
Played it for the first time last year on the NES Classic. Such a hidden gem in the vast NES catalogue.
I rented this and even the short time I had it I was still able to make it a good distance, I had friends who had it so didn't need the code from the manuel, but I did figure out most of it without friend help, and of course without internet
The good old time :D Where we used our brains to finish a game!
In my case it was not for code i had problem! But i'm french born
and i was always asking mother to translate! Not Google!
Just finished playing this game on the Switch. It was pretty great! I actually didn’t mind the difficulty that much. The infinite continues and checkpoints right at the start of the dungeon helped stave off my frustration by allowing me to get right back into the action.
...Chapter 7 _does_ get a little nuts though. They really did not want you to be able to use the supernova lol
True Facts: I rented it, got to the letter, and was so disappointed because I had fallen so deeply in love with this weird, wacky world, that child-me saved his pennies for a month to go buy it. Then child-me laughed at the difficulty and tore it apart like it was no big thing. To this day, I remember the secret code on that letter (747).
You could’ve bought a couple of Nintendo power magazines. I did that. I was lucky, though.
That was the idea. Nintendo didnt like that their games were in video game rental stores. They tried suing Blockbuster, but couldnt. They eventually sued other video game stores for photocopying instruction booklets. Putting this parchment paper written code into the game was their way of slowing down the process of video game rentals. Remember, the internet didnt exist yet and these codes couldnt just be on the internet in a day if this issue came up.
I want to go back to the 90s when this game was out and open a Coca-Cola on a real life sunny island in a hotel with a nice view and play this game. I never played this game growing up despite playing so much NES back then. I was still young and didn’t look for games like I do these days. This game is like my childhood dream vacation and it seems like something I would dream up for as a game in my childhood. I just want to go back in time I relive those moments. This game is such a gem and really great for the NES visually. I like the sense of humor in it that reminds me a bit of Itoi/ Earthbound / Mother Series.
Im here for the Mike Jones reference.
"Your Uncle DOCTOR JONES"....uuhuuu....
Guess they gave him a Yoyo instead of a Whips because elsewise they would've been sued to death for creating Indiana Jones Jr. :D
Pretty cool game, wish there was a 16-bit remake or sequel.
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i was just thinking about this game the other day, first saw it in early '95 in the CNE
Mike Jones (who?)
Mike Jones
Holy fuck underrated joke
The reason why this game and its sequel were forgotten by Nintendo is because it was never available for sale in Japan. The games were specifically developed with the western world in mind.
Spent a few hours as a kid cracking that code... 1.1.1, 1.1.2., 1.1.3, you get the point anyway if I knew that the end result would eventually be the Moah Heads that are better at killing me than I am at killing them, I would have found something better to do with my time. Don't get me wrong though, I love Star Tropics and even knowing the history of it I still hope after all these years for a Star Tropics 3 but that would be like asking for a Q-Bert Jrpg.
Zelda + Earthbound = Startropics.
Other than needing to talk to everyone to progress and needing that 1 code, this is a solid game. Every bit as good as the NES Zelda's.
Can play this with rewind on switch online, I hope they bring over the sequel soon.
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I saw Mike Jones in concert back in 2018 and got him to sign a copy of StarTropics for me. I still don't know if he knew why.
Its worth playing once, but making people talk to everyone after everything is said and done is tedious and extends the game longer than it needs to be.
In short, Startropics was also to show off to game developers that it was possible to make a game without the need to reset a game before shutting the power off to hold onto saved game data. The MMC6 was designed for this reason, is uses the same coding and graphics capabilities of the MMC3, but didnt require the expensive MMC5 cartridges to keep saved data.
Unfortunately, most of the games that used saved data opted to use the SNES instead and didnt have an NES port (only Koei's games were on both systems, and they used the MMC5), so the only 2 games that used this cartridge design were the 2 Startropics games.
I got pretty far in this game but took a break . Nice review Mayb I'll start it up again
This is just tropical Zelda
...ain't nothing wrong with that.
without even watching this video, my reply is... Yes. of course it is. It is, after all, the best nes title only slightly rivaled by TMNT3
Just got the NES cart for $6 plus shipping on eBay! Thanks for the great review!
this game is so fucking hard....I punched my copy and broke it and bought another one...then I duct taped the old cart and still played it....I love this game.
The fact that you had to dip the letter in water and could not do this if you had rented the game was 100% deliberate on Nintendo's part. They hated rentals and wanted to make them harder to be successful. This was one of the ways they did that.
Also, if this game seems like Zelda in some ways, that's because it's based on the Zelda engine. But no, it is not "Tropical Zelda". It's just a different game that shares a lot of the same code, in the same way that Kid Icarus and Metroid share code.
Yes I remember my brother rating this game when we got stuck on a stupid code of the robot if I can remember and I think the code is 747 but I could be wrong but we spent so many hours I'm trying to beat that code we even replayed it all over again and we couldn't find nothing
One of the early examples of invasive DRM
I rented the game and that pepper was missing. Luckily, Nintendo Power was still around so I had to is call them.
The only time StarTropics was referenced in Smash Bros was on the chronicle in Brawl only in the North American version!
I mainly remember Star Tropics for the goofy commercial with that nerdy kid.
I always found it strange that you get a submarine but needed a dolphin to teach you how to dive.
It's not the dolphin who learn SUB-C to dive. But a inputted code by Mike...
Replay the game...
"Go back to Sub-C and you will give Nav-Com this new ID code. It activates Sub-C's diving
capabilities."
From Gamefaq. But i didn't needed this back in 1991...
I still remember.
4 years ago and even today cause this the first time I'm watching it but, mike Jones lives past his fame lol who? 0:07
I was one of those kids who rented this without having any idea about the code. The game's not even super explicit that the code's something separate from the game itself, so I just wandered around stuck until it was time to return it.
I bought the NES Classic half a year ago and i just saw the video now in 2020
Tropical Zelda was an AMAZING GAME!!!
I vaguely remember this being totally confusing to play
Fun fact some of the music was actually glitched and this video shows how it was originally meant to sound th-cam.com/video/EmUvGH2HMuc/w-d-xo.html.
I like this game pretty well, but the controls are so clunky and unresponsive that it makes the game harder than it should be.
Lmfao Who? Mike Jones. Nice Easter egg.
the sound remind me of Harvest Moon back to nature summer theme for some reason
I played the hell out of this game back in the day. Was never good enough to get all the way through, needed my uncle to get past the last two dungeons.
Great game, the sequel too. Would be great to get a third one these days, made in retro style of course:-)
I threw away the paper I was supposed to dip in water and there was basically no internet. I called up Nintendo and they sent me another one and told me the code. :’)
Great video, and it really makes me want to play Startropics finally for the first time! I always knew about it, but never dove into it yet. I like thew idea of it being tile base too, so u can run left, then turn up and shoot, without stepping up toward danger. Games that make you move toward the direction u are to aim alwys is annoying at times. NO worries for Startropics on the new mini NES because Nintendo patched the rom so you can look up the code in game now. This was added for the Wii VC version and they will use the same rom for the mini nes.
The main reason for the the letter was to deter it from being a rental, and making people have to buy the game
This game level have so many inverted crosses!!!!!
I still remember the commercial for this game. Never got to play it as a kid.
Very underrated game, imho
this game was awesome, I love everything about it
Mike Jones
Who?
Dude that hurt! You may need a guide. At the time this was awesome!
Short and sweet review. love it.
Still holds up. I got totally hooked on it.
If anything, it's better than the original Zelda that I could never stand.
So much better.
Just got it on my nes 😎yes its worth playing!
So yeah x 1
But yeah x 2
Anyway yeah x 1
the second to last level was so hard i gave up lol