BEST DALEK I LOVE DALEK DALEK IS MY LIFE I LOVE DALEKS SO MUCH SO MUCH SO MUCH SO MUCH I WOULD DIE FOR A DALEK !!!!!!!!!!!! THE DALEKS WILL RISE AND DESTROY THE HUMAN RACE!
Ah, it made me tear up when she said "I'm human". It's in her heart, she knows that she was a human, and it's harder to suddenly realize that you're not anymore and it kills you.
Hearing a sad Dalek is so... emotional somehow, knowing that they are a hostile race and then seeing Oswin as a crying Dalek is just still so powerful, Seeing her cling to her humanity as she comes to terms of her fate. Poor Clara.
I'm not Doctor who expert so I don't know much about it, but if she WAS human and she was converted I guess conversion wasn't full. she somehow either regained or never lost at least part of her human consciousness
I love how they make Clara's Dalek sound like it has actual tune in her/it's voice, whereas the other daleks have no tune, every word they say sounds exactly the same, it shows she IS human
I think what they were getting at is that the voice of the Clara Dalek follows the natural ups and downs in pitch that a normal human voice does, while all other Daleks speak in a more monotone voice, keeping the same pitch throughout
I've just noticed The Doctor could've just spoke to her looking at the eyestalk. But he didn't, he spoke into the grill where the fleshy part of the Dalek is. He chose to speak directly to her
I admit, I teared up upon watching this the first time, hearing a dalek innocently ask, "They hate you so much - why?" in such an innocent and childlike intonation.
+annette .muse She should have been the one to forget ... and she should have said "Run, you clever boy ... and ... REMEMBER". However, think on this people ... Clara is still intertwined with the Doctors time line. Even though she has been rescued, she was still there at every point that the doctor existed. So there is still a Clara until the doctor is no more.
+Taldren The Doctor's time stream that we saw was from an alternate reality in which the Doctor fought on Trenzalore and died. Logically, that only covered the incarnations that ultimately ended(sorta) with the eleventh Doctor dying to save Christmas of Trenzalore. If you mean symbolically: yes. Otherwise, her history will end when she decides to go back to face her fixed death.
LokkerG All we know is that he dies on Trenzalore ... not the events that cause it. It is time locked, else he would have never had met her in the Asylum of the Daleks or The Snowmen ... which means he would have never shown up in Bells of St John or even had a 13th regeneration to begin with as she was completely responsible for that in the first place.
On the Tardis. 11: what should we have for desert? Oswin: Soufle! 11: how do we make that again? Oswin: Eggs, stir, cook for 20 minutes! 11: was that a pun? Oswin: maybe?
“We have grown stronger in fear of you” I love that line and one of the reasons I enjoyed Moffats run so much. He understood that the doctor was a weapon above all else, because he dedicated himself to fighting evil, evil had no other place to go but to improve itself and dedicate itself to stopping the doctor. Things like an entire multi species religious order forming solely to make his death a fixed point in time.
Let's just give it up for Jenna Coleman and Nicholas Briggs here, because this is some superb acting. Jenna gave such a heartfelt, passionate performance and was able to express Clara's mental breakdown so perfectly, including the subtleties of fear, anger, and sadness, while fighting off the Dalek instincts. And the way Briggs tried to capture the subtleties of Jenna's own speech patterns and merge them with that of a Dalek is so clever, and so well-balanced.
+Edgar Vilhelm Yeah, I love it how both of them share the role, and do their best given the obvious limitations. :-) Matt's not bad either, reacting to just a prop. Definitely one of the best acted scenes back in Series 7.
I love Smith's acting in this scene. He wanted to save Oswin, but finding out she's a Dalek, even though she may not have even known about it, has him infuriated to the point where he can barely keep in his fury
@@iinxkkiii6676 he hates Daleks, but he specifically hates the hurt they cause - that they did this to a random human who had the bad luck to crash there.
There is not a man on this planet, or any other planet, not in this universe or beyond, not in any stream of time or version of reality that could ever have matched Nicholas Briggs in his ability to bring the daleks to life. No man could've made a dalek cry or sing with joy the way he has. Just the amount on suffering and confusion you can hear in oswin/dalek's voice is incredible.
Rayn Whocares this episode is crap it's my opinion I ain't hating on moffet he has written some of my fav new who episodes he is not immune from criticism no one is.
The most heartbreaking thing about this scene was how the doctor changed so quickly, he was all laughing and joking with Oswin before he found out she was a dalek, but then when he found her he turned all cold and bitter.
It's so sad to. Just the sadness in her metalic dalek voice is heartbreaking. Daleks aren't supposed to have emoticons, much less break down and cry...
3 long years later...here we are....Clara "Oswin" Oswald....his impossible girl, that souffle girl......the woman twice dead.......jumped into the doctors timestream, convinced him to save his own people, motivated him as a child, got a little reckless like him....faced the raven in pure bravery...one heartbeat away and now is off travelling time and space in her own TARDIS with an immortal girl. In other words....her journey to becoming her own Doctor...has come to an end......boy what a ride she was (no dirty pun intended)
+kylephantom4 Jenna really made the role her own, in the best way possible, even in weaker episodes. We'll have plenty of equally good companions in the future, I'm sure, but I'll always look back fondly to Clara's time on DW. She brought some very human vulnerability and warmth to the companion role, all the while also keeping Clara gutsy, outspoken, intelligent, independent and stubbornly charming. :-) A detail I like about her is how she reminds me of some of the female companions of old: There's plenty of Sarah Jane and Jo in her, in equal measure, and also quite a bit of Nyssa and the occassional bit of Tegan.
kylephantom4 she isn’t traveling in the tardis with ashilder anymore. She went back to the moment the raven was gonna attack her and died to preserve the timeline. They just didn’t show us that because we’ve already seen it
"No! i must kill the Daleks" she shouted The Doctor Said; "No Oswin. You are the Daleks." And then Oswin was a Dalek. Some early sections of this briliant script (BRAVO MOFFAT) which I found online, when the episode was still known as Doctor Who: Repercussions of evil.
I always think it underappreciated that there was a clean hand off between companions here, and there was an episode with the Ponds and sort-of-Clara together, even some interaction. That just... Is so nice. I wish they could always do that.
Part of me wishes that this was Clara's LAST episode, instead of her first episode. Could you imagine the emotional impact we would have had if The Doctor "rescued' Clara before realizing it was too late to save her. People think this episode is emotional already, imagine this episode if they were to happen. If this were her last episode, we might say that this was the greatest episode of Doctor Who ever instead of maybe top 20.
Heh I can imagine the screams already. Capaldi and Clara travel through time, maybe in another Dalek season finale and in the end Capaldi sees Clara and a bunch of others escaping from somewhere and they crashland on the Dalke Asylum planet. Capaldi, already knowing the planet realizes what this means and gets so angry he goes all Hartnell meets Colin Baker style crazy. Man that wouldbe a brilliant season finale and a great end for Clara as the companion.
it's the way she runs at him , screaming "exterminate!" and then just breks down. I feel like she's taking out her anger at him for making her find out what happened. She wanted to have someone to blame for what had happened
And how it just touches him with it's little plunger thing as if begging for help, reaching out with a hand that is no longer human as if to say "Please believe that I still am."
I love the way at the end Rory's like 'how long can we wait' and Amy's like 'for the rest of our lives' that just shows that they would rather give up their lives for the Doctor rather than leave him, and I love them so much for that. They have each other but they are still always there for him.
I was so touched when Oswin managed to retain her humanity and chose to help the Doctor in the end. I was on the brink of tears that whole scene. Then after I watched the series 7 finale, I watched this scene again and then cried like a baby during it. Watching the whole season makes Oswin having to face that she's a Dalek... it's SO much sadder.
Oswin realizing what she's become is one of the saddest things I have ever seen in my life. If it wasn't for her winning out in the end, I couldn't even watch it again.
+Brutarii No. They fully converted her not only used her. That basically means she has became a creature like them somehow. It's not the first time the Daleks used humans to recreate themselves either.
+Krisztian Bari They probably removed her brain, spinal chord, and basic organs (like the heart and lungs) and placed them into the armor, wiring all the controls to the spinal chord, and attaching the organs to some sort of life support. That's what I imagine they'd do, anyway.
Edgar Vilhelm Hey that would make sense. Except the brain part. Obviously they created her in the first place because She was a genius. Removing the brain would result a complete waste of time for the daleks and would just probably kill her. Imo they make a fusion and they removed the more human part post fusion since She didn't need them anymore thanks to the Super Dalek surviving body and the armor. So yes excluding the brain this is a great idea and would answer why they never show any part of her even if the Doctor clearly did and why would He call her a Dalek even after Her protest and proof that She still has Her human memories and such.
+Krisztian Bari don't think you got it, what he meant was that they took all bits responsible for consciousness (mostly the entirety of the neural system) and replaced organs with vital support from the Dalek armor. They changed her body for a Dalek armor but kept her brain. marvel2328 is right, inside there must be only some gross organic goo with a few organs floating around, the Clara we see on the entire episode is a mental projection created by her denial
technically oswin/clara is not a dalek as she has a conscious and mind of a human, with feelings and good emotions, something that a dalek can never have.
I wouldn't say can't have, but rather refuse to have. The dalek from 'Dalek' started to feel other emotions but when it did it rejected it so harshly it decided it was better to commit suicide than to feel
@@fangsabre I’m a little confused by your comment, because it’s stated Daleks were genetically reconstructed to not feel any emotion but pure hatred. They have no choice in that, and that makes it way easier to exterminate anything it lays eyes on. That specific Dalek in “Dalek” was feelings emotions because it contracted Rose Tyler’s DNA and began to mutate. But you’re right, It couldn’t handle feeling remorse/guilt because it had never felt such things because it, along with the doctor, did terrible things in the time war.
"Remember...Me." Bloody chills!!! That sequence with the Dpctor coming to save Clara...one of the most brutal bits of dialogue in all of Doctor Who. Rates easily as one of the great moments in sci fi.
Chains in general are pointless on Daleks. Remember, they can even destroy Dalekanium, the same material they themselves are made of. Nothing can truly stop a Dalek.
At 2:41 he responds to Clara woth a gentle and sympathetic expression but when the Dalek’s in her speaks, saying that *we* the Dalek’s became strong in fear of you, his expression and words become cold.
1:33 - 1:39 Always makes me tear a bit because you can feel the emotion when she screams "I AM HUMAN" . Humans are always wishing to have powers and be mythical things that are more "powerful" whereas humans are actually so powerful. Our own emotion and determination makes us human. Probably one of the most powerful things in the universe.Look at Clara. The determination to stay human made her believe she still was, it's better then knowing you're a emotionless machine. Clara when she found out she was a dalek was similar to the cyber man that had their emotions thing put back on by accident in the David Tennant series.
Dracorider 19 I was never into the doctor until i saw this episode scene a day ago. this gave me the feels. imagine being taken prisoner, removing your brain so that you have no arms, legs, head or beauty. then your brain being manipulated to conform to have only hate, removing your very essense. your mind retreats into a fantasy full time in order to survive. and when the curtain rises, it all comes back, and you still cannot bear it.
It is. Daleks are basically the end result of fast forwarding radiation mutations to their most extreme yet survivable state, built by a mad doctor that was effectively making super-soldiers that could survive nuclear fallout indefinitely. That's the "purity" they're referring to- the end result of pushing genetic mutations to their most extreme. You can probably guess what this means as far as the process to turn a human into a Dalek. Easily worse than Cyberman conversion.
If you watch the first episode where the Doctor meets the original/real Clara, she also gets captured and trapped inside a computer. When he's talking to her on the computer screen, she also says "Where Am I?" ;-)
I remember sitting in a crowded dormroom in college when this dropped and immediately, in David Tennant's voice, shouting: "WHY DID SHE LOOK AT THE CAMERA? WHY WOULD SHE DO THAT? THE DIRECTOR HAD MANY TAKES AND HE CHOSE THIS ONE, WHY?!" Go figure, it was an impossible question to answer at the time.
Same here, Clara was the companion I got to know when I started watching the show, and even though some of the other companions were arguably better than her in some aspects (ie. Rose) Clara was always like “my” companion, just like how 11 was “my” incarnation of the Doctor. No matter what, you just can’t help but feel a certain fondness for them simply because they were the first ones you got to know when you first started watching the show.
The bit when you hear her crying as a Dalek is so heartbreaking :( and when she asks why they hate him. This episode is definitely one of the best of Eleven's era.
Probably, he’s likely checking how much of the true Oswin is left, hoping maybe she’s still in there just wired up to the machine. Of course from the way he acts there’s likely next to nothing human left in there.
Matt is my favorite Doctor. He and Jenna were so perfect together. RYCBAR and that sideways look from her into the camera is one of the grandest moments in all of Doctor Who.
No Dalek would have been able to make the decision she makes in the end. What we choose... is what separates us from the Daleks. Her last decision and action is what allows her to die...human. And this is what she wants the Doctor to remember of her. Brutal life lesson for all fans whether we embrace the new doctor...or not.
Last time I watched this episode,I was a little kid. Only thing I had remember from it was the phrase:" Run,you clever boy". I had used it many times not knowing where it was from,now I remember...
I got a great idea for an episode. A human and a dalek change minds. The human becomes an evil dictator, and the dalek joins the resistance in a world taken over by the daleks. The doctor arrives, and gets captured by the daleks, and later the human dalek rescues him. The human dalek travels with the doctor in dalek form, until the doctor builds an android and transfers the mind of the dalek into the android. BOOM! New companion!
Probably wasnt meaning to be harsh, he was probably angry that a woman he hoped to save was already too late to save anyway, angry at the daleks for causing this to happen
....telling lies won't really help her, and he knows the Dalek programming might just kick in. Still, sets the tone for their later relationship, there was always a bit of waryness involved, and oh, the "brutal honesty" moments... It'll be a while before original!Clara gets a look at his unfiltered true self, but this, of course, is a terse situation where he can't afford to be nice. The best introductions are those that get more brilliant in hindsight; River Song being another example, but in her case it's sort of obvious that it would.
His hatred for The Dalek is so intense and single-minded that the Dalek themselves, whose conscept of beauty is hatred, consider him a divinity for it.
I relish at the thought... what if the Doctor got a Dalek companion, even if just for a episode or two. I know, not blooming likely, but it's one of those things that makes you think: what if?
This was one of the first episodes I watched of the 11th Doctor, and I was completely torn. Oswin's tragedy tore me to pieces, but the Doctor... just seemed to lack any sort of sincerity for her. "I'm so sorry, Oswin... but you are a Dalek." Seriously! Yes, she's a Dalek, but the way she's been towards him shows she's so much more. Give her some space; you just told her something that flipped her entire world!
"they hate you so much
why?"
i never realized i wanted a dalek to say that
I love how it sounds when she/it says it
I know it's so sad and cute at the same time
+Feline Kitty paws dance seeing you here
Oceanflyer Aj agreed
BEST DALEK I LOVE DALEK DALEK IS MY LIFE I LOVE DALEKS SO MUCH SO MUCH SO MUCH SO MUCH I WOULD DIE FOR A DALEK !!!!!!!!!!!!
THE DALEKS WILL RISE AND DESTROY THE HUMAN RACE!
How to make a souffle, recipe by Oswin Oswald
1. Eggs
2. Stir
3. Min 8
1. Eggs
2. Stir
3. Cook for 8 minutes
Rachel Armamus Souffles take longer than 8 mins to bake. lol It takes about 20 mins.
Serenity113 hey, it's not my recipe.
Miguel Torres headcannon accepted.
**gets overwhelmed and pukes rainbows**
Never again would a Dalek be so expressive in its speech.
Pluendi because it wasn't a dalek... It was a human
Hey there was other human daleks but the sucked at speech too
full conventions only where done on genius's
S1 (2005) Dalek says otherwise. Only that Dalek was an actual Dalek from birth an it was far more subtle.
Rusty?
Ah, it made me tear up when she said "I'm human". It's in her heart, she knows that she was a human, and it's harder to suddenly realize that you're not anymore and it kills you.
You sound like you're speaking from experience, :o WERE YOU CONVERTED TOO!!?
DopeAnimeMind You mean you weren't? How did you escape the purge?
Wea111 Nah I'm asking lol. I'd say 'weren't' if I thought she'd already been converted lol
Are you a dalek
Sarang Kyungsoo Just remember what happen when a cyberman recober his emotions.
The Moffat: Killing Off Main Characters Before They Become Main Characters
This made me laugh!
Moffats fine, I've liked just about every episode of every season from doctor 9-11 I've just finished season 8
+G_Man He did the same thing to Amy pre Amy Pond in Pompeii.
+G_Man I mean, its definitely not the first time.
+Lefty Hara and in the one with the Cyber Men and those ear pieces where they killed Martha Jones but they said it was her cousin.
I love how she watches into the camera like 'remember me bitches cause I'm not over yet'
rofl
Your comment is HILARIOUS!!!!!
She's the best companion
I agree.
@@mateuszdex6629 Rose and Amy are better tho
Hearing a sad Dalek is so... emotional somehow, knowing that they are a hostile race and then seeing Oswin as a crying Dalek is just still so powerful, Seeing her cling to her humanity as she comes to terms of her fate.
Poor Clara.
How can she be a dalek when SHE is with the next doctor! SPOILERS OF HER BEING THE SECOND DAUGHTER OF THE DOCTOR?! don't mind me lmao xD
Ash The Skeleton ?
It tears at me everytime I see it.
I'm not Doctor who expert so I don't know much about it, but if she WAS human and she was converted I guess conversion wasn't full. she somehow either regained or never lost at least part of her human consciousness
Are you talking about me
I love how they make Clara's Dalek sound like it has actual tune in her/it's voice, whereas the other daleks have no tune, every word they say sounds exactly the same, it shows she IS human
Not all
Some daleks have lower voices, can be heard when one of them is reporting "Detonation negative" to Supreme dalek
I think what they were getting at is that the voice of the Clara Dalek follows the natural ups and downs in pitch that a normal human voice does, while all other Daleks speak in a more monotone voice, keeping the same pitch throughout
The Dalek Time Controller from the Big Finish audio dramas also had a different sounding voice.
No the whole point is that she’s actually a Dalek
I've just noticed
The Doctor could've just spoke to her looking at the eyestalk. But he didn't, he spoke into the grill where the fleshy part of the Dalek is. He chose to speak directly to her
Just realized that Clara was a Dalek and Danny was a Cyberman. Hmmm.
***** Those..... are some very good possibilities
Don't forget Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart became a Cyberman recently.
Lol there will probs be a new race called cyberleks XD
Robert Lythgoe woah, ur right!
Robert Lythgoe LOL. Enemies no more?
2:14 you can actually hear her crying as a Dalek and the sound is so heartbreaking
kind of caught me off guard tbh
I admit, I teared up upon watching this the first time, hearing a dalek innocently ask, "They hate you so much - why?" in such an innocent and childlike intonation.
"Run you clever boy and remember me".WELL NOW HE CAN'T.
Urgh! Still too soon!.... 😭😭
+annette .muse She should have been the one to forget ... and she should have said "Run, you clever boy ... and ... REMEMBER".
However, think on this people ... Clara is still intertwined with the Doctors time line. Even though she has been rescued, she was still there at every point that the doctor existed. So there is still a Clara until the doctor is no more.
+annette .muse "Run you clever boy and be a Doctor." He realized who she was moments after she left him.
+Taldren The Doctor's time stream that we saw was from an alternate reality in which the Doctor fought on Trenzalore and died. Logically, that only covered the incarnations that ultimately ended(sorta) with the eleventh Doctor dying to save Christmas of Trenzalore. If you mean symbolically: yes. Otherwise, her history will end when she decides to go back to face her fixed death.
LokkerG All we know is that he dies on Trenzalore ... not the events that cause it. It is time locked, else he would have never had met her in the Asylum of the Daleks or The Snowmen ... which means he would have never shown up in Bells of St John or even had a 13th regeneration to begin with as she was completely responsible for that in the first place.
Imagine if he had kept Dalek Oswin as a companion?
That would be amazing......
I dont think the tardis would be to happy
On the Tardis.
11: what should we have for desert?
Oswin: Soufle!
11: how do we make that again?
Oswin: Eggs, stir, cook for 20 minutes!
11: was that a pun?
Oswin: maybe?
@@Phantom6.6.6 I agree. The Tardis probably would be very uncomfortable with Daleks on board.
Never heard that suggestion before, had a good laugh.
“We have grown stronger in fear of you” I love that line and one of the reasons I enjoyed Moffats run so much. He understood that the doctor was a weapon above all else, because he dedicated himself to fighting evil, evil had no other place to go but to improve itself and dedicate itself to stopping the doctor. Things like an entire multi species religious order forming solely to make his death a fixed point in time.
It always hit diffrent. Her saying "we" and not "they". Likenshe accepted it. Her fate.
And they still failed to kill the Doctor even with a fixed point for his death.
Let's just give it up for Jenna Coleman and Nicholas Briggs here, because this is some superb acting. Jenna gave such a heartfelt, passionate performance and was able to express Clara's mental breakdown so perfectly, including the subtleties of fear, anger, and sadness, while fighting off the Dalek instincts. And the way Briggs tried to capture the subtleties of Jenna's own speech patterns and merge them with that of a Dalek is so clever, and so well-balanced.
+Edgar Vilhelm Yeah, I love it how both of them share the role, and do their best given the obvious limitations. :-) Matt's not bad either, reacting to just a prop. Definitely one of the best acted scenes back in Series 7.
Agreed
Don't forget about Nick Hurran (director) or Murray Gold
yep the dynamic duo in and way
That’s not Clara. She looks like her but this is a one off charecter.
I love Smith's acting in this scene. He wanted to save Oswin, but finding out she's a Dalek, even though she may not have even known about it, has him infuriated to the point where he can barely keep in his fury
Why was he mad
@@iinxkkiii6676 He hates Daleks
@@iinxkkiii6676 he hates Daleks, but he specifically hates the hurt they cause - that they did this to a random human who had the bad luck to crash there.
When she said "and remember" and looked at camera, she was telling us to remember her because she shows up later!
lol yea
Something that hurts is if she was saying remember cus Peter Capaldi's Doctor forgets her-
i know its not but it hurts to imagine
Literal 4th wall break and one of only few in Doctor who and I was done so well
There is not a man on this planet, or any other planet, not in this universe or beyond, not in any stream of time or version of reality that could ever have matched Nicholas Briggs in his ability to bring the daleks to life. No man could've made a dalek cry or sing with joy the way he has. Just the amount on suffering and confusion you can hear in oswin/dalek's voice is incredible.
This was absolutely my favourite version of Clara.
Agreed. She'd be a lot more useful as a Dalek, too.
Selene its like This version too
Selene The Victorian Clara was pretty cool.
@Sindy Gerber Exactly.
I personally think that both Clara’s we saw before modern Clara were better
Great Steven Moffat's episodes can be tearjerkers.
Jack The Film Fanatic Bit still 1,000 times better than the shit episodes and writing today.
hunterkiller1440 I just gave you the one like you need, your at 1 K likes and im proud ti have provided it for you
One of the worst dalek stories
Can y'all stop hating on Steven Moffat please...
Rayn Whocares this episode is crap it's my opinion I ain't hating on moffet he has written some of my fav new who episodes he is not immune from criticism no one is.
The most heartbreaking thing about this scene was how the doctor changed so quickly, he was all laughing and joking with Oswin before he found out she was a dalek, but then when he found her he turned all cold and bitter.
Because he knew that it was his fault that they needed genius to fight him so he was the only reason why oswin was a dalek
The Dalek crying breakes my heart every time.
hearing a dalek cry.... Its unatural
It's so sad to. Just the sadness in her metalic dalek voice is heartbreaking. Daleks aren't supposed to have emoticons, much less break down and cry...
Yep.
I should end myself it's supposed to, it actually made me uncomfortable when watching this episode for the first time
3 long years later...here we are....Clara "Oswin" Oswald....his impossible girl, that souffle girl......the woman twice dead.......jumped into the doctors timestream, convinced him to save his own people, motivated him as a child, got a little reckless like him....faced the raven in pure bravery...one heartbeat away and now is off travelling time and space in her own TARDIS with an immortal girl. In other words....her journey to becoming her own Doctor...has come to an end......boy what a ride she was (no dirty pun intended)
+kylephantom4
ALL THE DIRTY PUNS.
Not.
*****
"what a ride she was"
+kylephantom4 Jenna really made the role her own, in the best way possible, even in weaker episodes. We'll have plenty of equally good companions in the future, I'm sure, but I'll always look back fondly to Clara's time on DW. She brought some very human vulnerability and warmth to the companion role, all the while also keeping Clara gutsy, outspoken, intelligent, independent and stubbornly charming. :-)
A detail I like about her is how she reminds me of some of the female companions of old: There's plenty of Sarah Jane and Jo in her, in equal measure, and also quite a bit of Nyssa and the occassional bit of Tegan.
kylephantom4 she isn’t traveling in the tardis with ashilder anymore. She went back to the moment the raven was gonna attack her and died to preserve the timeline. They just didn’t show us that because we’ve already seen it
She Was Also A Dalek 2 Times. One Full Conversion, Another Only Controling It.
"No! i must kill the Daleks" she shouted The Doctor Said; "No Oswin. You are the Daleks."
And then Oswin was a Dalek.
Some early sections of this briliant script (BRAVO MOFFAT) which I found online, when the episode was still known as Doctor Who: Repercussions of evil.
I always think it underappreciated that there was a clean hand off between companions here, and there was an episode with the Ponds and sort-of-Clara together, even some interaction. That just... Is so nice. I wish they could always do that.
Hearing a Dalek sobbing. That has got to be the saddest sound I've ever heard.
when Clara said "Run, you clever boy and remember!" I literally got shivers
Part of me wishes that this was Clara's LAST episode, instead of her first episode. Could you imagine the emotional impact we would have had if The Doctor "rescued' Clara before realizing it was too late to save her. People think this episode is emotional already, imagine this episode if they were to happen. If this were her last episode, we might say that this was the greatest episode of Doctor Who ever instead of maybe top 20.
Heh I can imagine the screams already. Capaldi and Clara travel through time, maybe in another Dalek season finale and in the end Capaldi sees Clara and a bunch of others escaping from somewhere and they crashland on the Dalke Asylum planet. Capaldi, already knowing the planet realizes what this means and gets so angry he goes all Hartnell meets Colin Baker style crazy. Man that wouldbe a brilliant season finale and a great end for Clara as the companion.
EzekielRageTV Too similar to Dr River's fate to be original..,)
Doesn't have to be original, just good is enough. Makes the pain so much sweeter^^
no
viejoolmo Sounds closer to Peri's fate to me.
2:14 is the sadest sound in the universe...
bess albert lololololol
yes...
+bess albert , The sound of a creature incapable of crying...starting to cry.
it's the way she runs at him , screaming "exterminate!" and then just breks down. I feel like she's taking out her anger at him for making her find out what happened. She wanted to have someone to blame for what had happened
And how it just touches him with it's little plunger thing as if begging for help, reaching out with a hand that is no longer human as if to say "Please believe that I still am."
Oswin: *Thinks shes human*
The Doctor: Oswin your not human your a Dalek
Oswin: *starts acting like a Dalek*
The Doctor: wait no
He's never been good at tact.
I love the way at the end Rory's like 'how long can we wait' and Amy's like 'for the rest of our lives' that just shows that they would rather give up their lives for the Doctor rather than leave him, and I love them so much for that. They have each other but they are still always there for him.
Anyone else notice that there are three people playing Oswin in this scene? Jenna Coleman, Nicholas Briggs, and one of the Dalek operators.
Cybermat47 who’s Nicholas’s Briggs ?
@@masonwyatt2277
Dalek Voice Actor.
I strangely love the non-shouty Dalek voice. When Oswin says "Why do they hate you so much?" it just sounds good.
those chains weren't very good quality
Yeah I noticed that too... They kind of just fell off her
Tell me the single time, when chains were actually useful with daleks?
Except "The Dalek", that is.
ForeverBatmanfunun1
And that specific Dalek was in a weakened, injured state. The moment it got back to his full strength, those chains did nothing.
The question is also how did daleks put those chains up?
Lemontarts01 there used the puppets
I was so touched when Oswin managed to retain her humanity and chose to help the Doctor in the end. I was on the brink of tears that whole scene. Then after I watched the series 7 finale, I watched this scene again and then cried like a baby during it. Watching the whole season makes Oswin having to face that she's a Dalek... it's SO much sadder.
1:35 was the moment the scene really hit me as profoundly as possible. The fight to stay human, to remain with emotion, to stay..unique. Powerful.
Oswin realizing what she's become is one of the saddest things I have ever seen in my life. If it wasn't for her winning out in the end, I couldn't even watch it again.
I guess inside the dalek would be a gross mutated blob of Oswin
+Marvel2328 no she probably still had her human form, her brain was just rewired or something
+Brutarii
No. They fully converted her not only used her. That basically means she has became a creature like them somehow.
It's not the first time the Daleks used humans to recreate themselves either.
+Krisztian Bari They probably removed her brain, spinal chord, and basic organs (like the heart and lungs) and placed them into the armor, wiring all the controls to the spinal chord, and attaching the organs to some sort of life support. That's what I imagine they'd do, anyway.
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Hey that would make sense. Except the brain part. Obviously they created her in the first place because She was a genius. Removing the brain would result a complete waste of time for the daleks and would just probably kill her.
Imo they make a fusion and they removed the more human part post fusion since She didn't need them anymore thanks to the Super Dalek surviving body and the armor.
So yes excluding the brain this is a great idea and would answer why they never show any part of her even if the Doctor clearly did and why would He call her a Dalek even after Her protest and proof that She still has Her human memories and such.
+Krisztian Bari don't think you got it, what he meant was that they took all bits responsible for consciousness (mostly the entirety of the neural system) and replaced organs with vital support from the Dalek armor. They changed her body for a Dalek armor but kept her brain.
marvel2328 is right, inside there must be only some gross organic goo with a few organs floating around, the Clara we see on the entire episode is a mental projection created by her denial
Why do the cute girls always turn out to be psychotic Daleks?
My comment only applies to this dimension.
I knew that!
***** And for the record it was universe a dimension has to do with length width height and time and after the fourth dimension I get confused
Thank you for clearing that up, Mr. Science...
lol
They should have kept her like this. Gave the Doctor a Dalek companion.
They did it with a Sontaraan, why not?
OpenMawProductions Because, well, Daleks.
OpenMawProductions Honestly, I didn't care much for Clara. But I did enjoy Oswin's character a lot.
OpenMawProductions she couldn't fit in the TARDIS 😂
Speaking of Sontarans, we haven't had an episode with them (excluding Strax) in a while.
Especially now that we've had 1 - 2 Cyberman companions. A dalek seems like it would be the next logical thing on the list.
I just love this scene, Matt and Jenna are brilliant here you really feel the tragedy of the situation. Series 7 is so underrated.
Notsosmartguy 625 I know
I just find it funny hearing a Dalek say "Eggs".
technically oswin/clara is not a dalek as she has a conscious and mind of a human, with feelings and good emotions, something that a dalek can never have.
I wouldn't say can't have, but rather refuse to have. The dalek from 'Dalek' started to feel other emotions but when it did it rejected it so harshly it decided it was better to commit suicide than to feel
@@fangsabre And Dalek Sec Too.
@@fangsabre I’m a little confused by your comment, because it’s stated Daleks were genetically reconstructed to not feel any emotion but pure hatred. They have no choice in that, and that makes it way easier to exterminate anything it lays eyes on. That specific Dalek in “Dalek” was feelings emotions because it contracted Rose Tyler’s DNA and began to mutate. But you’re right, It couldn’t handle feeling remorse/guilt because it had never felt such things because it, along with the doctor, did terrible things in the time war.
Also she is genetically human her DNA would not be compatible with a kaled
I think they physically converted her into a Dalek, but did not count on her mental resilience to cling to her humanity.
I love how Jenna stares at the camera with a smirk on her face when she says the "Run you clever boy..." line. Cause she knows.
What if every time she about to die.. She remembers it all
"Remember...Me." Bloody chills!!! That sequence with the Dpctor coming to save Clara...one of the most brutal bits of dialogue in all of Doctor Who. Rates easily as one of the great moments in sci fi.
One of the best plot twists of all time
'We have grown stronger in fear of you'
I appreciate this line so much.
A crying Dalek is the creepiest sound you'll come across in all of time and space.
Wow those chains were pointless
I agree Matrix
Chains in general are pointless on Daleks. Remember, they can even destroy Dalekanium, the same material they themselves are made of. Nothing can truly stop a Dalek.
Well a dalek could stop a dalek
The Doctor But when Dalek #1 destroys Dalaek #2, then 1 will be unstoppable for the time being. At least until another Dalek destroys Dalek #1
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At 2:41 he responds to Clara woth a gentle and sympathetic expression but when the Dalek’s in her speaks, saying that *we* the Dalek’s became strong in fear of you, his expression and words become cold.
1:33 - 1:39 Always makes me tear a bit because you can feel the emotion when she screams "I AM HUMAN" . Humans are always wishing to have powers and be mythical things that are more "powerful" whereas humans are actually so powerful. Our own emotion and determination makes us human. Probably one of the most powerful things in the universe.Look at Clara. The determination to stay human made her believe she still was, it's better then knowing you're a emotionless machine. Clara when she found out she was a dalek was similar to the cyber man that had their emotions thing put back on by accident in the David Tennant series.
I just feel downright sorry for Oswin. Being killed by a Dalek is one thing, but being turned into an actual Dalek must be considerably worse.
Dracorider 19 I was never into the doctor until i saw this episode scene a day ago. this gave me the feels. imagine being taken prisoner, removing your brain so that you have no arms, legs, head or beauty. then your brain being manipulated to conform to have only hate, removing your very essense. your mind retreats into a fantasy full time in order to survive. and when the curtain rises, it all comes back, and you still cannot bear it.
It is. Daleks are basically the end result of fast forwarding radiation mutations to their most extreme yet survivable state, built by a mad doctor that was effectively making super-soldiers that could survive nuclear fallout indefinitely. That's the "purity" they're referring to- the end result of pushing genetic mutations to their most extreme.
You can probably guess what this means as far as the process to turn a human into a Dalek. Easily worse than Cyberman conversion.
Bill did the same as a Cyberman, she still saw herself as human :(
This scene creeped the hell out of me. Poor her.
At 1:21 Matt sounded like David when he said “I’m so sorry”
if THAT happened to me , I'd ask someone to end my suffering .
Well she did blow the place up shortly after.
Darklight Photon Why, it's a chance of getting a new lifestyle.
oh you meant your SOUFFERING* GHAHAGHHAAGHAA
Procrastinator cabbagehair Not necessarily!
Darklight Photon i guess I would exterminate my teachers XD
"I'm HUman." :(
Is is just me? But I think Dalecks are freakin' adorable.
WHAT ARE YOU?
So it is just me, then?
Aww, come here and let me hug you. :3
Laura Moore YOU WILL NOT BYPASS DALEK TECHNOLOGY!
Do you happen to like warm hugs?
Nothing can be as sad as the words "I am a human" which saying from a Dalek.
If you watch the first episode where the Doctor meets the original/real Clara, she also gets captured and trapped inside a computer. When he's talking to her on the computer screen, she also says "Where Am I?" ;-)
Also use those words "run, you clever boy. and remember." as passwords of the wifi
Can i know which episode is that please?
v0ider852 Bells of Saint John
this is the original Clara, or is this one of many versions of a Clara who jumped into time stream? like the Clara that fell from Tardis?
@@chilipalmer10 Original.
Only a dalek could pull off that dress ;)
I remember sitting in a crowded dormroom in college when this dropped and immediately, in David Tennant's voice, shouting:
"WHY DID SHE LOOK AT THE CAMERA? WHY WOULD SHE DO THAT? THE DIRECTOR HAD MANY TAKES AND HE CHOSE THIS ONE, WHY?!"
Go figure, it was an impossible question to answer at the time.
I don't care how many people disliked Clara, she was one of my all time favorite companions.
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Same here, Clara was the companion I got to know when I started watching the show, and even though some of the other companions were arguably better than her in some aspects (ie. Rose) Clara was always like “my” companion, just like how 11 was “my” incarnation of the Doctor. No matter what, you just can’t help but feel a certain fondness for them simply because they were the first ones you got to know when you first started watching the show.
The bit when you hear her crying as a Dalek is so heartbreaking :( and when she asks why they hate him. This episode is definitely one of the best of Eleven's era.
Jesus Christ Doctor, show some compassion. You're telling her that her entire existence is a lie.
How exactly do you tell someone they've been ripped apart and shoved into a killing machine and will never feel the sun again gently?
Walter Kovacs You're Rorschach, you shouldn't be giving anyone lessons in compassion.
@@fangsabre dont tell her in the first place
Sebastian Knott but if he did not tell her, she would not hack into the "web". This is a fixed point in time.
oh yeah lie to her and she will get all better -The Doctor
Thinking when Matt is looking through the Dalek neck grille he's looking directly at the Dalek operator inside
Probably, he’s likely checking how much of the true Oswin is left, hoping maybe she’s still in there just wired up to the machine. Of course from the way he acts there’s likely next to nothing human left in there.
Matt is my favorite Doctor. He and Jenna were so perfect together. RYCBAR and that sideways look from her into the camera is one of the grandest moments in all of Doctor Who.
This scene was so sad, I really felt for Oswin. But the doctor was a bit insensitive when at his second half part told her she was a dalek
I don't know why but Clara's dalek sounded kinda cute :3
I know, she's sort of squeaky.
Maybe it's because she's a baby Dalek, lol.
Who would've thought a bunch of laser shooting killer garbage cans would be so cool
Victor M That's + cake whisks and plungers. :)
Yeah, this is why you never trust the profile pic they use on Tinder!
I met Jenna Coleman yesterday and she signed a picture of me and her with 'Run you clever boy and remember me - Clara'. My life is complete.
jealous is an understatement omgg
just kidding, that's so cool tho! what was she like?
2:14 Shout-out to the very first Dalek episode, where Barbara was cornered by a Dalek and screamed as the episode faded to black.
3:41 Oswin your breaking the 4th wall here
The way Clara looks at the camera when she says "and remember"...
Run you clever boy, and remember! REMEMBER!
Congratulations, Doctor.
You did something no one thought you could do.
You brought a Dalek to tears.
It's probably the most disturbing thing to hear a Dalek cry.
A Dalek crying sounds like a squeaky toy being drowned
0:05 "What you suffered is called a fugue, a fugue state. Where the mind just runs away because is can't bare to look back."
One of my favorite episodes. Superb acting from the both of them.
It would be epic if a friendly dalek was the doctors companion!
No Dalek would have been able to make the decision she makes in the end. What we choose... is what separates us from the Daleks. Her last decision and action is what allows her to die...human. And this is what she wants the Doctor to remember of her. Brutal life lesson for all fans whether we embrace the new doctor...or not.
2:14 It sounds strange hearing a Dalek sobbing.
Their not made to cry 😂
You can hear how sad the Dalek's voice is- Oswin is, when she realizes she is a Dalek.
Last time I watched this episode,I was a little kid. Only thing I had remember from it was the phrase:" Run,you clever boy". I had used it many times not knowing where it was from,now I remember...
That scene where she glances at the camera near the end, that is...clever..
"And remember ..." And then she looks at us ...
I got a great idea for an episode. A human and a dalek change minds. The human becomes an evil dictator, and the dalek joins the resistance in a world taken over by the daleks. The doctor arrives, and gets captured by the daleks, and later the human dalek rescues him. The human dalek travels with the doctor in dalek form, until the doctor builds an android and transfers the mind of the dalek into the android. BOOM! New companion!
What? That makes no sense. . DO IT BBC, AND IN MY CASE, BBC AMERICA!
That is what I call an AWESOME episode please BBC do it PLEASE!!!!!!
I wonder why the Doctor was so cold and harsh to her in this scene....
Probably wasnt meaning to be harsh, he was probably angry that a woman he hoped to save was already too late to save anyway, angry at the daleks for causing this to happen
....telling lies won't really help her, and he knows the Dalek programming might just kick in.
Still, sets the tone for their later relationship, there was always a bit of waryness involved, and oh, the "brutal honesty" moments...
It'll be a while before original!Clara gets a look at his unfiltered true self, but this, of course, is a terse situation where he can't afford to be nice. The best introductions are those that get more brilliant in hindsight; River Song being another example, but in her case it's sort of obvious that it would.
The Doctor Hey! You're me!
His hatred for The Dalek is so intense and single-minded that the Dalek themselves, whose conscept of beauty is hatred, consider him a divinity for it.
Love this little transition 0:53
Love, love, love the way she looks into the camera.
3:40 Split second breaking of the fourth wall
How?
Hulk Hulk She looks directly at us.
Oh nvm I was looking at 2:40 lol
+findingbuglantis She's secretly deadpool.
I relish at the thought... what if the Doctor got a Dalek companion, even if just for a episode or two. I know, not blooming likely, but it's one of those things that makes you think: what if?
OswinDalek: EGGS...EGGS...EGGSTERMINATE!!!
11th Doctor: Oops!
I just realised. Clara’s entire motto was “Run you clever boy, and remember.” But the Doctor ends up forgetting her.
Notice how she looks at the camera indicating that she's coming back. Clever
This was one of the first episodes I watched of the 11th Doctor, and I was completely torn. Oswin's tragedy tore me to pieces, but the Doctor... just seemed to lack any sort of sincerity for her. "I'm so sorry, Oswin... but you are a Dalek." Seriously!
Yes, she's a Dalek, but the way she's been towards him shows she's so much more. Give her some space; you just told her something that flipped her entire world!