Finding out about her dead daughter really makes her decision to go back and save Newt work a lot better, more believably anyway. It gives the motivation some additional humanity.
@@ryantogo8359 there is no other continuation, so it is as canon for me as it gets. It is not like that there is a movie where they found the little price's planet with a rose and lived there ever happy after...
What if being a mother has nothing to do with it? What if Ripley is just a brave woman that would put her life on the line to go back and attempt to save Newt or anyone else?
I think the only scene from the special edition that should’ve made the theatrical release was the scene showing Ripley’s daughter, as it adds a lot of depth to her character and why she was immediately protective over Newt. I think the other scenes should’ve been left out. The sentry gun scene ruins the false sense of security you have when watching (before the power goes out), and I believe the scene showing how the Alien’s were discovered on LV-426 also ruins the unknown factor of what happened at that compound.
Agree that the only scene they should have kept was the one with her daughter, it shows her desire to help Newt and also that with no other relatives, Ripley had nothing else to live for. It was great to see life on the planet before, it must have cost a bit with sets, scale models etc and these must have been left out quite close to the end, but it gave away the secret of the company and told us the stories of people we didn’t need to know about, we could guess how it all started.
Also agree the only scene to keep in the original should of been about Ripley's daughter as it makes her attachment to Newt much more powerful. The new scene of Newt's family discovering the ship and her dad getting hugged is cool, but if left in the original film, the audience would have been in on how everything went to hell on the colony already. Leaving it out of the original movie leaves the audience and the soldiers in the same boat, both in suspense on what the hell exactly happened there and finding out pieces along the way. Added to the suspense! Same goes for the added scene with the automated sentry guns. Again a cool scene, but as the guns are blowing away the aliens, the aliens retreat and Ripley says, They're looking for another way in which will take them a while. So now the audience knows that the aliens WILL find that way in. By cutting that scene out of the original, you have the original scene where they think they are all safe in the room, all sealed in, but then as they are tracking the alien movement, the tracking device is reading the aliens outside the door, then inside their room which they say is impossible and leads them to question if Hudson is reading the device correctly. Then they all slowly look up, Hicks pops the ceiling tile and BOOM, there they all are! So again, cutting that sentry gun scene made the original scene wayyy more suspenseful. IMO they were all great cuts (except Ripley's daughter) as they created a lot more suspense in the original version.
James Cameron is just so amazingly good at making me hate corporate suits. I think he perfected it in Avatar films but it's super strong here too. The portrayal of the board meeting goes beyond caricature back around to extremely real.
When you think about how ruthless Burke and the WY company is, it wouldn’t surprising if he lied about Ripley’s daughter being dead to keep her from thinking twice about going to Handley’s Hope.
I watched the director's cut first and I'm glad I did. It is so much more powerful seeing the colony decimated having seen what it was like before the attack and the faces of those who perish. Can't believe it was cut
I can see that side of it. Personally I like the mystic of them arriving at a desolate base more. We already know even on first viewing there’s gonna be aliens about. But not seeing them for so long is really intense and eerie.
I think the scenes with newt and her family were rightfully cut. Those folks didn’t move the story along. I think the parents leaving their kids alone to go explore a mysterious ship was just stupid to begin with and a needless distraction
Where did you watch that Director’s cut? HBO+? Disney+? Paramount? Any other streaming platform? I watched on Disney and it is not that one you mentioned
Where did you watch that Director’s cut? HBO+? Disney+? Paramount? Any other streaming platform? I watched on Disney and it is not that one you mentioned
In the 80s, a two hour running time was the max. Anything over that and there was risk in cutting screening times by half. There was very few 'multi-plexes' back then which could run movies all day nonstop. Also, I grew up on the theatrical cut and it's about as perfect as it can get. The special edition was a mindblowing treat when I saw it in the 90s, but the theatrical cut will forever be #1 in my heart.
Seeing the colony beforehand and the scene with Newt's family take away much of the mystery and suspense of the marines first entering the colony. Burke telling Ripley that they lost contact is no longer a surprise. That was Hurd's justification for removing those scenes as well.
Absolutely not! It was the perfect editing choice to remove all of this needless fluff. As much as I love all of the extended and deleted scenes, the theatrical cut is a near masterpiece
It was genius of James Cameron to take what was originally a blank slate of a protagonist in the first film and evolve the character through displays of maternal care towards Newt and Heartbreak over the death of her daughter in this sequel.
The scenes not added here.. > When Hicks opens up the remote sentry guns >Ripley and Hicks going over the blueprints on where the Sentry guns should be set up > The test firing scene inside the tunnel at the pressure door.. >Lab scene when Ripley asks Bishop "so who's laying these eggs" and Hudson and Vasquez answer the Queen >The Sentry guns in front of the pressure door firing until they run empty and press against the door
The good news is that in the DVD all this scenes were on the main movie. The sentry units scenes are so good that only a stupid director would deleted them.
I just asked the question up top about whether there were different theatrical releases for American and UK audiences. Are you from the UK, by any chance? I too have seen a lot of these scenes yet never watched Special Edition.
08:47 My new Windows Wallpaper. Some of these scenes, especially #1 are really good and would give Ripley "special motivation" to go back and save Newt.
I've just watches Aliens for the first time and I'm happy to report that I unknowingly watched the Director's Cut with the deleted scenes in it. I can't belive that the standard movie form 1986 deleted scenes like Ripley finding out her daughter died, it make so much sense to show this since it explains why she cares for Newt so deeply, she sees her daughter in her and she'll do anything to protect her! You can't just cut character developing like that...
Having seen these clips throughout the years and watching the special edition with these scenes added back in, watching the standard version is so jarring now and seems incomplete
It feels so much more cohesive when you watch the directors cut, I don’t understand why they made the decision to cut these scenes, as they explain the story better
Cameron said he wanted to put all this stuff in but he had to make cuts for the theatrical release. The Special Edition is his favorite version of the film.
Some Suit like Burke wanted a 90 minute runtime so they could get one more showing per day. He probably watched it and said "I don't get why Burke is the villain!"
During this period, studios really wanted to avoid 2+ hour films. There weren't a lot of multiplexes like there are today, and having long movies would cut down on the amount of showings for a film in a day, which would cut down profits. So they'd have directors make cuts to get the run times down under 2 hours.
Well, showing the death of Newt’s father is kind of pointless and ruins the mystery of when they learn about Newt’s past. It also ruins the pacing and I like how we’re in the perspective of what Ripley knows. But I love the rest of the deleted scenes
@@123rockfan Showing how the colony was thriving, the families there and the stakes of losing the colony, how all that life got turned into a very vicious fight for their lives and how all those people just suddenly disappeared without any evidence as to where they went other than the holes in the ground, its pretty good to show how dangerous 'these things' can be and not just how lethal they are. I can see that it could be annoying for people who just wanna see the action though.
@@Panzerfanlol again, I think it completely ruins the surprise and mystery of seeing Newt later in the film. Also ruins the pacing in my opinion. And I don’t dislike it because I just “wanna see action”. It feels like I’m being spoon fed information. But I guess people who like that sort of thing will enjoy the directors cut. It’s all subjective. And btw I actually prefer the suspense/horror in Alien over the action in Aliens
Isn't there a scene showing Spunkmeyer taking a leak which explains why the drop ship was compromised. Why would you leave a huge door open in a potentially hostile area?! I swear there was a short scene where just before Ferro tells him to "move it" he's outside the ship fastening his pants.
It's not that great. The characters are just standing there counting and listening to squealing noises. For almost 2 minutes. Nothing else happens. It doesn't advance anything and we don't learn anything. It's the right decision to cut it from the final movie.
@@morbius_of_krell I beg to differ. We learn more about the alien's intelligence in combat and that they are just mindless animals. They can learn and form a strategy. The Newts tale comic shows this as well, when they use a human survivor to trick the rest of the survivors into opening the storage room they were hiding in.
@@eyesofnight Good point, but I think there are better moments in the film that show the alien's intelligence that don't take 2 minutes to do it. This is an action film so the narrative needs to keep moving right along.
In my opinion the sentry gun scenes increase the level of fear/anxiety for the audience. It shows that even 4 machine guns with 500 rounds each are not enough. So clearly what the survivors have for weapons and ammo won’t be enough. I also LOVE the sound of the Aliens banging on the pressure door after the guns in the tunnel ran out of ammo. The version of Aliens without those two scenes is inferior.
Anyone know when Aliens “Special edition” with the sentry gun scenes became available? I first watched Aliens on VHS in 1989 (wasn’t old enough to see it when it hit theaters) and could swear that sentry scene was in the version I watched. But i have seen the movie a million times since then so maybe the sentry scene wasn’t added yet.
Watched this movie again last night and I realised the deletion of the scene where Newt’s family find the ship really creates confusion later on: when Ripley confronts Burke saying “you sent them out to that ship” when at that point it’s never actually been explained to the audience what happened to the colonists
Its pretty clearly implied that there was an alien ship and Burke sent the employees out. It wasn’t specifically mentioned as Newts family but that doesn’t really matter.
I grew up on this film. I didn't see any confusion, by the time Ripley accused Burke, we were willing to believe anything she said. As a viewer we trusted her 100 percent, so if she accused Burke of something, we believed it.
@@greyknightus7 Interesting and probably would answer how the pods/aliens infiltrated Hadley's hope. In many respects, this theory was addressed in Alien3, where Ripley was carrying a queen. The theatrical cut is perfection...if I had to include one additional subplot, it would be the sentry guns!!!!!!!!!!!!! Had the sentry gun scene made it to theatres in 1986? THE WORLD WOULD HAVE CHANGED.
Watched at 1st time few years ago, maybe in some website that I cannot remember; now I watched in Disney+ and realized that machines gun scene was not included in the original version. IDK what Jim Cameron thought during editing the film to delete that scene, because it is just awesome.
Im blown away finding out the ri0ley and newt scene, when she talks about monsters being real, was a deleted scene! Ive never seen the version without it? My brain hurts😅
Taking out the pre-infection scenes from Hadley's Hope was a terrible idea. Seeing them gives you an idea of just who these people were and what their life looked like before being cocooned. It makes their loss that much more tragic.
Well knowing Burke and The company as we do, who's to say they didnt just lie to her about Amanda, maybe she isnt dead. I know this is wishful thinking on my part, but I'm one of those hardcore Aliens fans who really wanted ripley, hicks to have proper closure in thier stories, I mean there was so much source material that Hollywood could have turned to like the graphic novels.
If you want to know what happened between when the derelict was found and the marines arrived I suggest reading the novel River of Pain. It covers that entire time period.
The video wall was used 4 years later in Total Recall. I remember the scene with Ripley's daughter was included when Aliens aired on CBS in 1988. I wonder if Paul Verhohven saw that version and liked the idea or if James Cameron shared it with him for Total Recall.
I'm sure my VHS of the Special Edition back in the day claimed 17 mins, but whatever. These deleted scenes are essential in my opinion. I believe the special edition also had the hidden easter egg of an alien squelching sound right at the very end of the credits.
Watching the theatrical relase is very difficult missing all of these scene. What are they thinking deleting scenes that add so much to the story? The same can be said for Prometheus.
Cameron dropped the ball removing these scenes, especially the first scene where she finds out about her daughter. I think it was the best character development scene for Ripley, which would define her for the rest of her life. The mother who lost a daughter wasn’t going to leave a scared little girl again without her protection (no matter what). The scene where she tells newt that her daughter is gone just brings so much more human element to her character when she goes back into hell to save that little girl from the alien hive. Ridley wasn’t just a bad ass, but a heart broken mother fighting to protect the closest thing she would ever have to a child of her own again. Changed the whole film for me and even added emotional relevance to the 3rd film. Great writing but terrible final editing in the end
At 5:03 through 5:18 and at 5:38 through 5:40 and at 5:44 through 5:46 and at 6:19 through 6:26 and at 6:40 through 6:50 and at 7:16 through 7:25 and at 7:35 through 7:55 and at 7:58 through 8:00 and at 8:06 through 8:08 and at 10:26 through 11:15 and i just want to say is God bless Carrie Henn she did a really wonderful job as Newt the sole survivor of LV-426 and Carrie Henn will be forever rememberd as both the greatest and the coolest child actress in Aliens (1986) the greatest sci-fi action and horror movie ever created and directed by James Cameron as well:).
just watched the theatrical release and then the deleated scenes. You really need these scenes, for it to make sense . . a pitty they didnt just leave them
as much as l love seeing the derelict again, that scene had to be cut... makes so little sense. why would the company just have them send someone out there randomly? what kind of plan is that, after establishing a colony, just send a civilian out to get infected? and remembering how difficult it was for kane to get to the eggs, i cant imagine these two getting there furthermore i think that in romulus the facehuggers on the spacestation will have been recovered from the derelict, with the colony being a 'front' for them being out there ... i feel like alvarez will ignore this deleted scene same way cameron ignored the scene with brett and dallas being morphed into eggs... if the company wanted to investigate the ship , after what happened in alien, they would go themselves, which i think they will have in romulus
This is the same company that stupidly sent a group of space truckers to find the engineer ship instead of dedicated research specialist and security guards. Sending random colonist is on the nose for them.
Around 10:09, if left in I think it would’ve given her that little more she needed to have won the award she was nominated for. 1st woman, it not person, tk have been for the genre. I think she was the frost in the genre to be nominated
The scene where Newts family finds the derelict should of been in the theatrical cut, and not reduced to a single line from Ripley. I just wish we saw a bit more of the derelicts exterior
Aww! It didn’t have the scene with Ripley finding Burke all cocooned up. She’s better than me. I would’ve been like, that’s what the hell your ass gets! 😂
Anybody here play an english dubbed Capcom game before? Because "Me and my squad of ultimate badasses will protect you!" Sounds like the kind of awkward but not incorrect english typically heard in Capcom or other localized Japanese games like Resident Evil, etc.
@@morbius_of_krell Well I don’t know I just personally like seeing the backstory of newts family entering the dreadnought and the colony fighting against the xenomorphs.
The whole scene with Newt's family discovering the derelict ruins all the suspense of what's happening on LV426 and I always skip the entire scene outright when watching the special edition.
@@bartoni79 Agreed! there's a version (not sure what it's called) that was what I assumed was the standard movie for a long time, that includes most of the deleted scenes but not the scene on Hadley's Hope with the family. It's on the Prometheus to alien DVD box set (might just be the Aussie version though)
I personally don’t think any of these scenes brought anything to the table, maybe even slowed the pace down. Aliens was near perfect the first time, so there was no reason to put these mostly irrelevant scenes back in.
Agreed. In fact, I've started rethinking my view on director's cuts. They aren't always the best. Aliens was perfect before. It didn't need all this extra stuff.
Finding out about her dead daughter really makes her decision to go back and save Newt work a lot better, more believably anyway. It gives the motivation some additional humanity.
sure, and that makes the beginning of part 3 so depressing...
If you play Alien Isolation game you play as Ripley's daughter
@@WhiskeryMage61 part 3 isn't canon. I've never watched it and never will
@@ryantogo8359 there is no other continuation, so it is as canon for me as it gets. It is not like that there is a movie where they found the little price's planet with a rose and lived there ever happy after...
What if being a mother has nothing to do with it? What if Ripley is just a brave woman that would put her life on the line to go back and attempt to save Newt or anyone else?
The Hicks scene with her at the end stating their names, man I wish that was left in. That's a sweet moment.
Nah it was way too soppy
I think the scene where Ripley finds out about her daughter and when she talks more with Newt are great and Sigourney Weaver deserved to win an Oscar.
Sigourney was nominated for Best Actress..and yes she did deserve it
sigourney got robbed ! shouldve won
@@jameswilliams-zr8co Quem ganhou no lugar dela?
Marlee matlin won and disappeared
The extended edition is far superior because of these scenes. They give so much more weight to the story
I think the only scene from the special edition that should’ve made the theatrical release was the scene showing Ripley’s daughter, as it adds a lot of depth to her character and why she was immediately protective over Newt. I think the other scenes should’ve been left out. The sentry gun scene ruins the false sense of security you have when watching (before the power goes out), and I believe the scene showing how the Alien’s were discovered on LV-426 also ruins the unknown factor of what happened at that compound.
Agree that the only scene they should have kept was the one with her daughter, it shows her desire to help Newt and also that with no other relatives, Ripley had nothing else to live for.
It was great to see life on the planet before, it must have cost a bit with sets, scale models etc and these must have been left out quite close to the end, but it gave away the secret of the company and told us the stories of people we didn’t need to know about, we could guess how it all started.
Exactly.
Also agree the only scene to keep in the original should of been about Ripley's daughter as it makes her attachment to Newt much more powerful. The new scene of Newt's family discovering the ship and her dad getting hugged is cool, but if left in the original film, the audience would have been in on how everything went to hell on the colony already. Leaving it out of the original movie leaves the audience and the soldiers in the same boat, both in suspense on what the hell exactly happened there and finding out pieces along the way. Added to the suspense! Same goes for the added scene with the automated sentry guns. Again a cool scene, but as the guns are blowing away the aliens, the aliens retreat and Ripley says, They're looking for another way in which will take them a while. So now the audience knows that the aliens WILL find that way in. By cutting that scene out of the original, you have the original scene where they think they are all safe in the room, all sealed in, but then as they are tracking the alien movement, the tracking device is reading the aliens outside the door, then inside their room which they say is impossible and leads them to question if Hudson is reading the device correctly. Then they all slowly look up, Hicks pops the ceiling tile and BOOM, there they all are! So again, cutting that sentry gun scene made the original scene wayyy more suspenseful. IMO they were all great cuts (except Ripley's daughter) as they created a lot more suspense in the original version.
Fun fact: the photo of Ripley’s daughter is a photo of Elizabeth Inglis, the real mother of Sigourney Weaver.
I said to myself : "She looks like an older Sigourney Weaver"
Thanks for that detail
Originally from Colchester in England. Studied at RADA.
That's awesome. Thanks for the fun fact
i always assumed it was just her in elderly prothestic makeup
James Cameron is just so amazingly good at making me hate corporate suits. I think he perfected it in Avatar films but it's super strong here too. The portrayal of the board meeting goes beyond caricature back around to extremely real.
His handling of Mr. Ismay in Titanic does that too... embellishing things and making him more of a villain than he was in real life
Fun fact, the picture used for Ripley's daughter was actually Sigourney Weavers own mum.
They have very good genes.
The director's cut of this film is amazing.
I wish they'd put it on the streaming platforms as well. Disney+ version is just way too short.
When you think about how ruthless Burke and the WY company is, it wouldn’t surprising if he lied about Ripley’s daughter being dead to keep her from thinking twice about going to Handley’s Hope.
ive never seen that scene of hicks and ripley at the end, oh my god i will never forgive aliens 3 for killing hicks, newt and ultimately ripley
Hicks didn't die, he was swapped for someone else
@@markwaring5100 uhhh no, no he was killed in alien 3, didnt survive the crash
Pretty sure that wasn’t cannon
@@mrgodzillaraptors8632 in my world it isnt, but in my world theres also a 24 season ripley and hicks sitcom.. so
@@SUPERTRASH_ I prefer the world were jeri the synthetic xenomorph is the main character
I watched the director's cut first and I'm glad I did. It is so much more powerful seeing the colony decimated having seen what it was like before the attack and the faces of those who perish. Can't believe it was cut
I can see that side of it. Personally I like the mystic of them arriving at a desolate base more. We already know even on first viewing there’s gonna be aliens about. But not seeing them for so long is really intense and eerie.
It was the right decision, we knew what had happened and didn’t need the story of how and people that were already dead.
I think the scenes with newt and her family were rightfully cut. Those folks didn’t move the story along. I think the parents leaving their kids alone to go explore a mysterious ship was just stupid to begin with and a needless distraction
Where did you watch that Director’s cut? HBO+? Disney+? Paramount? Any other streaming platform? I watched on Disney and it is not that one you mentioned
Where did you watch that Director’s cut? HBO+? Disney+? Paramount? Any other streaming platform? I watched on Disney and it is not that one you mentioned
Cutting some of this stuff makes absolutely no sense. Ripley’s daughter and seeing the colony before it’s destroyed by the aliens are so important.
We got Alien Isolation the game thanks to the Ripley’s Daughter scene
In the 80s, a two hour running time was the max. Anything over that and there was risk in cutting screening times by half. There was very few 'multi-plexes' back then which could run movies all day nonstop.
Also, I grew up on the theatrical cut and it's about as perfect as it can get. The special edition was a mindblowing treat when I saw it in the 90s, but the theatrical cut will forever be #1 in my heart.
Seeing the colony beforehand and the scene with Newt's family take away much of the mystery and suspense of the marines first entering the colony. Burke telling Ripley that they lost contact is no longer a surprise. That was Hurd's justification for removing those scenes as well.
Absolutely not! It was the perfect editing choice to remove all of this needless fluff. As much as I love all of the extended and deleted scenes, the theatrical cut is a near masterpiece
Turret scenes were so badass, cant believe they didnt make the theatrical release
This Movie is flawless. You remember what Hudson says If you liked that you're gonna love this.
It was genius of James Cameron to take what was originally a blank slate of a protagonist in the first film and evolve the character through displays of maternal care towards Newt and Heartbreak over the death of her daughter in this sequel.
The fact they left out so many defining scenes for Ripley or Hudson boggles my mind.
The scenes not added here..
> When Hicks opens up the remote sentry guns
>Ripley and Hicks going over the blueprints on where the Sentry guns should be set up
> The test firing scene inside the tunnel at the pressure door..
>Lab scene when Ripley asks Bishop "so who's laying these eggs" and Hudson and Vasquez answer the Queen
>The Sentry guns in front of the pressure door firing until they run empty and press against the door
Yeah, the "ant hive" 🤣
Sorry I missed some! I think I've seen the Special Edition so much that I forgot what was original and what was extra! My bad.
@@flixandclips No problem..
@@lalaofthesky bees, bees have hives!
The good news is that in the DVD all this scenes were on the main movie. The sentry units scenes are so good that only a stupid director would deleted them.
I saw this on VHS early 1990, the automatic machine gun scene was included.
I just asked the question up top about whether there were different theatrical releases for American and UK audiences. Are you from the UK, by any chance? I too have seen a lot of these scenes yet never watched Special Edition.
08:47 My new Windows Wallpaper. Some of these scenes, especially #1 are really good and would give Ripley "special motivation" to go back and save Newt.
I've just watches Aliens for the first time and I'm happy to report that I unknowingly watched the Director's Cut with the deleted scenes in it.
I can't belive that the standard movie form 1986 deleted scenes like Ripley finding out her daughter died, it make so much sense to show this since it explains why she cares for Newt so deeply, she sees her daughter in her and she'll do anything to protect her! You can't just cut character developing like that...
09:29 hudson just said they have phased plasma rifles. Nice nod to the Terminator
Just what you see pal!
in the script the androids were originally meant to be cyberdyne too
Uzi 9 millimeter @@loc81
@@LordFuzzy32 you sure know your weapons..
@@ioannad1857 Is that true?
Having seen these clips throughout the years and watching the special edition with these scenes added back in, watching the standard version is so jarring now and seems incomplete
"Maybe we got em deMORalized!" Lol
It feels so much more cohesive when you watch the directors cut, I don’t understand why they made the decision to cut these scenes, as they explain the story better
Cameron said he wanted to put all this stuff in but he had to make cuts for the theatrical release. The Special Edition is his favorite version of the film.
Some Suit like Burke wanted a 90 minute runtime so they could get one more showing per day. He probably watched it and said "I don't get why Burke is the villain!"
During this period, studios really wanted to avoid 2+ hour films. There weren't a lot of multiplexes like there are today, and having long movies would cut down on the amount of showings for a film in a day, which would cut down profits. So they'd have directors make cuts to get the run times down under 2 hours.
I think it’s crazy to know that even while riply was in hyper sleep Amanda saw the alien in its horror
Having seen the director's cut only, I refuse to accept these scenes being cut out. They're far too integral to the film's plot and structure.
Well, showing the death of Newt’s father is kind of pointless and ruins the mystery of when they learn about Newt’s past. It also ruins the pacing and I like how we’re in the perspective of what Ripley knows. But I love the rest of the deleted scenes
I was thinking the exact same thing, it's crazy that they cut so much of the build up and atmosphere out
@@Panzerfanlol “build up”. In my opinion, the deleted scenes take away the build up by over explaining things
@@123rockfan Showing how the colony was thriving, the families there and the stakes of losing the colony, how all that life got turned into a very vicious fight for their lives and how all those people just suddenly disappeared without any evidence as to where they went other than the holes in the ground, its pretty good to show how dangerous 'these things' can be and not just how lethal they are.
I can see that it could be annoying for people who just wanna see the action though.
@@Panzerfanlol again, I think it completely ruins the surprise and mystery of seeing Newt later in the film. Also ruins the pacing in my opinion. And I don’t dislike it because I just “wanna see action”. It feels like I’m being spoon fed information. But I guess people who like that sort of thing will enjoy the directors cut. It’s all subjective. And btw I actually prefer the suspense/horror in Alien over the action in Aliens
Isn't there a scene showing Spunkmeyer taking a leak which explains why the drop ship was compromised. Why would you leave a huge door open in a potentially hostile area?! I swear there was a short scene where just before Ferro tells him to "move it" he's outside the ship fastening his pants.
Because the Marines were lied to as well. They knew nothing about the aliens.
Cutting the 2 sentry guns scene was a bad one in my opinion, it’s one of my favorite parts
It's not that great. The characters are just standing there counting and listening to squealing noises. For almost 2 minutes. Nothing else happens. It doesn't advance anything and we don't learn anything. It's the right decision to cut it from the final movie.
@@morbius_of_krell I beg to differ. We learn more about the alien's intelligence in combat and that they are just mindless animals. They can learn and form a strategy. The Newts tale comic shows this as well, when they use a human survivor to trick the rest of the survivors into opening the storage room they were hiding in.
@@eyesofnight Good point, but I think there are better moments in the film that show the alien's intelligence that don't take 2 minutes to do it. This is an action film so the narrative needs to keep moving right along.
In my opinion the sentry gun scenes increase the level of fear/anxiety for the audience. It shows that even 4 machine guns with 500 rounds each are not enough. So clearly what the survivors have for weapons and ammo won’t be enough. I also LOVE the sound of the Aliens banging on the pressure door after the guns in the tunnel ran out of ammo. The version of Aliens without those two scenes is inferior.
Anyone know when Aliens “Special edition” with the sentry gun scenes became available? I first watched Aliens on VHS in 1989 (wasn’t old enough to see it when it hit theaters) and could swear that sentry scene was in the version I watched. But i have seen the movie a million times since then so maybe the sentry scene wasn’t added yet.
Watched this movie again last night and I realised the deletion of the scene where Newt’s family find the ship really creates confusion later on:
when Ripley confronts Burke saying “you sent them out to that ship” when at that point it’s never actually been explained to the audience what happened to the colonists
Now that you mention it, the line does seem to come out of nowhere and adds confusion without the inclusion of the scene with Newt's family.
Its pretty clearly implied that there was an alien ship and Burke sent the employees out. It wasn’t specifically mentioned as Newts family but that doesn’t really matter.
I grew up on this film. I didn't see any confusion, by the time Ripley accused Burke, we were willing to believe anything she said. As a viewer we trusted her 100 percent, so if she accused Burke of something, we believed it.
It will really bake your noodle in knowing that the queen was most likely the chestburster that came out of newt's father..
@@greyknightus7 Interesting and probably would answer how the pods/aliens infiltrated Hadley's hope. In many respects,
this theory was addressed in Alien3, where Ripley was carrying a queen.
The theatrical cut is perfection...if I had to include one additional subplot, it would be the sentry guns!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Had the sentry gun scene made it to theatres in 1986?
THE WORLD WOULD HAVE CHANGED.
For the life of me I don’t know why the premium cable channels don’t show the director’s cut. It gives a much better context to the entire story.
Watched at 1st time few years ago, maybe in some website that I cannot remember; now I watched in Disney+ and realized that machines gun scene was not included in the original version. IDK what Jim Cameron thought during editing the film to delete that scene, because it is just awesome.
Im blown away finding out the ri0ley and newt scene, when she talks about monsters being real, was a deleted scene! Ive never seen the version without it?
My brain hurts😅
It's in both it's just slightly longer in special edition
Ripley is a very pretty woman, no matter how many years have passed.
Bill Paxton (Hudson) RIP
Taking out the pre-infection scenes from Hadley's Hope was a terrible idea. Seeing them gives you an idea of just who these people were and what their life looked like before being cocooned. It makes their loss that much more tragic.
Well knowing Burke and The company as we do, who's to say they didnt just lie to her about Amanda, maybe she isnt dead. I know this is wishful thinking on my part, but I'm one of those hardcore Aliens fans who really wanted ripley, hicks to have proper closure in thier stories, I mean there was so much source material that Hollywood could have turned to like the graphic novels.
Love the Weiland-Yutani Corp. Big Wheel toy vehicle during 4:32-4:36! 👍
They mewstly come out at night, mewstly
I got lucky and found the box set that included all deleted scenes with the movies. They scrapped the best parts and huge explanation to the movies
I am so lucky to have seen the whole movie with all of these included.
Captain Hollister made it off Red Dwarf, only to have his colony overrun by Xenomorphs.
I love how the only thing in HICKS mind is Ripley
I had know idea that this scene was cut until I rewatched the movie on HBO Max and certain sences were missing.
Bill Paxton was beyond sexy and fingerlickin' hot in this film! He nailed his little role majestically!
If you want to know what happened between when the derelict was found and the marines arrived I suggest reading the novel River of Pain. It covers that entire time period.
Just saw the director's cut today in the theatre. Wouldn't have it any other way😊
The video wall was used 4 years later in Total Recall. I remember the scene with Ripley's daughter was included when Aliens aired on CBS in 1988. I wonder if Paul Verhohven saw that version and liked the idea or if James Cameron shared it with him for Total Recall.
The operations center in Alien’s has a strong resemblance to the one from Avatar!
Wow, Mr. Simpson sporting the Seiko Arnie (J. Cameron had and wore one, same as Arnold is several movies), never noticed before...
I'm sure my VHS of the Special Edition back in the day claimed 17 mins, but whatever. These deleted scenes are essential in my opinion. I believe the special edition also had the hidden easter egg of an alien squelching sound right at the very end of the credits.
Watching the theatrical relase is very difficult missing all of these scene. What are they thinking deleting scenes that add so much to the story? The same can be said for Prometheus.
Why do i remember there being way more scenes about the sentry guns?
Hudson: Check it out, check it out, check it out...
On would wish they were make a director's cut with ALL scenes in the movie. They bring more to the story.
Cameron dropped the ball removing these scenes, especially the first scene where she finds out about her daughter. I think it was the best character development scene for Ripley, which would define her for the rest of her life. The mother who lost a daughter wasn’t going to leave a scared little girl again without her protection (no matter what). The scene where she tells newt that her daughter is gone just brings so much more human element to her character when she goes back into hell to save that little girl from the alien hive. Ridley wasn’t just a bad ass, but a heart broken mother fighting to protect the closest thing she would ever have to a child of her own again. Changed the whole film for me and even added emotional relevance to the 3rd film. Great writing but terrible final editing in the end
At 5:03 through 5:18 and at 5:38 through 5:40 and at 5:44 through 5:46 and at 6:19 through 6:26 and at 6:40 through 6:50 and at 7:16 through 7:25 and at 7:35 through 7:55 and at 7:58 through 8:00 and at 8:06 through 8:08 and at 10:26 through 11:15 and i just want to say is God bless Carrie Henn she did a really wonderful job as Newt the sole survivor of LV-426 and Carrie Henn will be forever rememberd as both the greatest and the coolest child actress in Aliens (1986) the greatest sci-fi action and horror movie ever created and directed by James Cameron as well:).
Definitely better with the cutscenes.
Why didn’t they keep all this stuff in it would made make more sense?
Yes as deleted scenes typically do, but the studio wanted to keep it under a certain time.
this is the one movie were all the deleted scenes make the movie so much better
8:00 I like the scene and the sound of FaceHugger strangling a man with his tail.
just watched the theatrical release and then the deleated scenes. You really need these scenes, for it to make sense . .
a pitty they didnt just leave them
I have the special edition on dvd/bluray. This is the version i know. Just watched whatever version they have on hbo max and missed all these scenes.
Why did they delete the bill Paxton scene? He's the ULTIMATE badass.
as much as l love seeing the derelict again, that scene had to be cut... makes so little sense. why would the company just have them send someone out there randomly? what kind of plan is that, after establishing a colony, just send a civilian out to get infected? and remembering how difficult it was for kane to get to the eggs, i cant imagine these two getting there
furthermore i think that in romulus the facehuggers on the spacestation will have been recovered from the derelict, with the colony being a 'front' for them being out there ... i feel like alvarez will ignore this deleted scene same way cameron ignored the scene with brett and dallas being morphed into eggs...
if the company wanted to investigate the ship , after what happened in alien, they would go themselves, which i think they will have in romulus
This is the same company that stupidly sent a group of space truckers to find the engineer ship instead of dedicated research specialist and security guards. Sending random colonist is on the nose for them.
I can't understand why the directors removed these scenes, they're great
They are quite lame,not adding much and most importantly they remove "unknown mystery" from alien planet.
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Sometimes you really wonder why some scenes are cut. Some of those scenes gives so much weight to the story.
.... Amy???? Umm ..idk how...but...Amanda .. isolation...but .did they just ....hold up
If she only knew her daughter dealt with Aliens too while trying to find her and she heard her personal message too
I think one sentry gun scene is missing
Around 10:09, if left in I think it would’ve given her that little more she needed to have won the award she was nominated for. 1st woman, it not person, tk have been for the genre. I think she was the frost in the genre to be nominated
The scene where Newts family finds the derelict should of been in the theatrical cut, and not reduced to a single line from Ripley. I just wish we saw a bit more of the derelicts exterior
Their so much to explain it I mean Jesus Christ make more movie about this sequel seriously what's up with Hollywood portrayed these days
Can’t believe they cut these scenes just to save 13 minutes.
Excellent video
Just imagine if they made this into a movie it would be a lot more scarier
there is only the 3rd gun turrets scene in this video, guess the 1st and 2nd didn't make it
Aww! It didn’t have the scene with Ripley finding Burke all cocooned up. She’s better than me. I would’ve been like, that’s what the hell your ass gets! 😂
Youve missed the first turrest scene when they set them up, and more firing
Anybody here play an english dubbed Capcom game before? Because "Me and my squad of ultimate badasses will protect you!" Sounds like the kind of awkward but not incorrect english typically heard in Capcom or other localized Japanese games like Resident Evil, etc.
I thought there was a scene when they were looking for Newt, Drake said “who cares?” after she started hiding
4:31 is that Anatol Yusef? His Wikipedia entry says he was in the special edition of Aliens, but I can't find any information on IMDB.
Is the LV-426 deleted scene in the official special edition? I had a DVD special edition copy and it didn't contain that scene in the final cut.
James: We will need more blue
I had no clue the Director's cut was a thing. I watched it thinking it was the theatrical cut 0_0
very high quality!!
4 min can't stop thinking about red dwarf
I love the sentry guns!
The version I know and love does contain a lot of these scenes. Were there different theatrical releases for American and UK audiences?
These aren't the deleted scenes.. these are The Restored Scenes, on The Director's Cut.
4:13 Captain Frank Hollister, Mac McDonald.
Still missing scenes
Where’s the deleted scene of Hudson talking about ants, and Vasquez says “Bees man, those are bees”
We needed more colony scenes tbh.
Why?
@@morbius_of_krell Well I don’t know I just personally like seeing the backstory of newts family entering the dreadnought and the colony fighting against the xenomorphs.
Melissa Joan Hart plays one of the children in Hadley's hope
wow, I didn't knew
Clarissa Explains That All was my favorite TV series
The whole scene with Newt's family discovering the derelict ruins all the suspense of what's happening on LV426 and I always skip the entire scene outright when watching the special edition.
Yeah - I think the vehicle looks a bit model like; sets looks a bit too studio
@@bartoni79 Agreed! there's a version (not sure what it's called) that was what I assumed was the standard movie for a long time, that includes most of the deleted scenes but not the scene on Hadley's Hope with the family. It's on the Prometheus to alien DVD box set (might just be the Aussie version though)
Why is this version not on Disney+ :(
What if there was a deleted scene with Apone and Dietrich waking up from their cocoons?
they couldn't show the photo in a tablet or a laptop ?
I personally don’t think any of these scenes brought anything to the table, maybe even slowed the pace down. Aliens was near perfect the first time, so there was no reason to put these mostly irrelevant scenes back in.
Agreed. In fact, I've started rethinking my view on director's cuts. They aren't always the best. Aliens was perfect before. It didn't need all this extra stuff.
this is deleted scenes? i see the version all in there
@5:25 did their accent seem to shift between American English and United Kingdom English?
What is the name of the actor who plays "Dad"? HIs voice is so familiar.