Scary Sharp - The Cheapest Way to Get a Perfect Razor Sharp Edge
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In This week’s woodworking skill builder we’re going to talk about the least expensive way to get a chisel scary sharp. In fact this system is called “The Scary Sharp System.” It is really easy to use and has a great return on investment. I really can’t wait to see what you create! Let me know what you’d like to see next. Thanks for watching! Please like, comment and subscribe. Cheers!
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Sharpening Supplies I used (make sure to get the PSA paper)
Main Page of Scary Sharp Supplies - lddy.no/ecii
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$25 Starter Set with half sheets - lddy.no/ecic
$43 3 Pieces of Float Glass with Lapping Film Starter Set - lddy.no/ecif
$25 3M Micro Lapping Film Set of 6 Full Sheets - lddy.no/ecid
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*Sharpening Supplies I used (make sure to get the PSA paper)*
Main Page of Scary Sharp Supplies - lddy.no/ecii
*Individual Products I used (make sure to get the PSA paper)*
$12 Honing Jig - lddy.no/ecik
$24.99 half sheet starter set - lddy.no/ecic
$14.99 set of 7 all grits 3m lapping film half sheets - lddy.no/ehhq
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*The Sheets/Grits I used*
0.3 micron (white) or 60.000 grit
1 micron (light green) or 14,000 grit
3 micron (pink) or 8,000 grit
9 micron (light blue) or 1800 grit
12 micron (yellow) or 1200 grit
30 micron (green) or 600 grit and
40 micron (blue) or 300 grit
So do you have seven separate sheets of glass, or do you swap out the paper?
Would this be a good alternative for sharpening pocket knives as well?
@@j.cut_ gvvvvv
I first saw the scary sharp method in either Wood magazine or in American Wood Worker magazine back when it was produced by Rodale. Maybe it was Wood Smith. One of those the system works. I’ve never used the paper you used but I have used wet/dry sand paper on glass sheets that came out of an old storm door. I’m going to get this paper and give it a shot. Thank you!!!
The float glass link comes up 404.
No video about how to get something scary sharp would be complete without the guy doing the video having at least one Band-Aid on a finger :-)
When I gift one of my carvings, I can literally say it was made with "blood, sweat and tears!"
He really should have a beard though! How can you take a wood man seriously without one?
@Nickvec 🤢
@@billywillis47 but with razor sharp chisels, i would expect to see patchy facial hair rather than a full beard. I hone and register mine with wet stones and shaving my arms is how i test them first lol
When I got my first tormek I didn't understand why they sent me a box of bandaids without any comment in any of the package literature. I certainly understood within a week!
As an amateur with woodworker, i typically feel overpowered with the entire arrangement th-cam.com/users/postUgkxrYREG3-7f1Aqk9ams3ZESRNzGnfdUtyQ . Be that as it may, this arrangements drove me through with much clarity and effortlessness woodplans. Works i now work like a genius. That is great!
I really wish I'd known about this two years ago, Jonathan. When I first started, I found it to be a very confusing subject, which has resulted in me going down the rabbit hole of water stones and diamond stones. As much as I like the two variations that I now own, as a mature student, it would have helped me learn faster and gain good technique if I'd have found this method first. I dread to think how much I've spent... money I really could have done with saving and put into other tools I needed. Great video and I just know this system will help a lot of people.
I wouldnt dismiss those other accessories, as they both have their own benefits. Diamond cuts faster than anything and waterstones develop a slurry, both can act to one's advantage.
@@BRENDANTHERED. Didn’t even see this.
Please, understand that I haven’t dismissed those other choices, only that this system works very well and gives great results. In my experience, water stones are very messy and diamond stones are a hell of a lot of of money, again, in comparison to the Scary Sharp System. If you haven’t used it, it actually cuts very well (especially the 100 micron film) and leaves a beautiful mirror finish with the 1 micron film. It’s a great system at a very affordable price and having used it more since I made the original comment, I’m more convinced than ever.
I liked the sandpaper system, is very very cheap. For my country only one cost around 1 PEN (1dollar -> 3.7 or 3.5 PEN)
Stay tuned! On the next video, Jonathan will teach you how to stitch your own wound and use a tourniquet.
Something I am very knowledgable on hahaha
I used to use this paper when I worked in semiconductors years ago. My boss was an avid woodworker and would bring in his chisels for some side projects for me. 😆 We had ways of going higher than 60,000, but it was getting silly at that point.
finaly a channel that explains things that a novice can understand...thank you for the great videos
This is amazing!!!
Shout out to the free harbor freight screw driver.
I have similar screwdrivers, not HF, but I had a similar thought when I saw the driver he was using; those four bit screwdrivers are the one of the best and handiest tools ever.
Just received the sharpening system from Taylor Tools. To say this system is absolutely perfect is an understatement. I have never gotten my chisels this sharp. thanks for sharing this
the white sheet feels like the backing paper from a shipping label!
I found this method on a shaving forum, for sharpening my cut throat razor, a few years back and it revolutionised things for me
“Woodworking is not machining.” I could not agree more. I see videos where folks spend a ton of time polishing. It won’t be that sharp after a few whacks into some hard maple. Get it good enough and go.
Well clearly your tools aren't hard enough. You should make them out of neutronium too so they don't chip :P
Liked that too. Been machining for years and just getting into murdering tree carcasses, I always laugh at guys obsessing with aligning wood tools with dial indicators (and usually doing it from a meaningless reference plane).
@@mtnbikeman85 likewise. The only thing that really makes me cringe is when I see woodworkers not use the thumb screw to zero out their calipers. That will always bother me lol
Why am I watching this when I don't have single chisel and I don't do woorworking at all?
right here with ya
cuz you're bogus? Ha,ha no offense bro; just thought this needed a reply! seriously, why dont you try woodworking, its a very useful hobby; fun, self image building, might even save you $ @ Christmas!
@@sethwarner2540 The aquarium hobby is starting to pull me in. It dawned on me that I could build racks and stands for my tanks if I just have some basic tools and a little knowledge.
So cool to find an affordable easy sharpening solution. I have been looking at stones the last few days trying to figure out how I'm going to fit it into the budget. This is right on time.
If Jimmy Kimmel was a woodworker...
Dear Jonathan. Thank you for all your work. I mean it, you have provided us with so many ways to improve and learn and just when I watch your video on sharpening with waterstones and start to decide whether or not I'm going to buy myself those expensive diamond whetstones or not, you upload this video. I wish you the best and have a nice day!
That sand paper is made to polish the end faces of fiber optic connectors. Fun fact, the core diameter of single mode fiber optic cable is 8 microns.
2nd because Jonathan cheats and comments first on his own videos... :v
hahaha
Hahaha, great video man, really helpful guide for many of us who are starting, or don't have access in our country to good quality stones and have to import them which increases the price a lot.
@@katzmosestools also make sure to collect them royalties from the latest video from Chris Salomone's video starring Shaun hahahaha...
Hi!
The colors seem to be codes for the grit size.
All known big manufacturers and many small ones use electrostatic deposition of grit since the past 40 years or so!
I was sharpening a plane iron yesterday, getting frustrated at my crummy system while doing so. After watching this video, I have just placed an order for the paper you used. I already have the glass, and can't wait to try this new paper. Wish me luck.
Thank you for bring this idea to my life....the wife gave this to me for xmas. I just finished sharpening my first chisel and I was blown away....stupid easy w stupid sharp results👍
I’ve heard and these this technique before but know one ever referenced it before on TH-cam and linked it, thank you JK Moses. I’m definitely buying there set...T>
You'll really like it bud
I didnt know Jimmy Kimmel was into shop skills! Oh wait, "The Man Show" lol. Seriously though, where does a guy get ahold of some of that float glass- I've never even heard of it.
Click show more below the video or right here: lddy.no/ecif Have a great day, friend.
I took a class on sharpening at Highland Hardware in Atlanta and I always had the sharpest chisels on a job site.
Tip: if you get glass cut for this somewhere at a store, get them to wet sand the edges for you so it won't cut you later.
"Arrised edge" ... 😎👍☘🍺
@@peterfitzpatrick7032 Learned something new today. However, I would bet the farm the people at Lowes or Home Depot don't know what that means. Also, I'll take a beer too!
Those end grain shavings are legit! That's impressive. Found my new sharpening system.
Was sharpening my drill bits with a cheap plastic jig and this sandpaper for the last 20 odd years. Works incredibly well. Although I used MDF and not glass because, well, glass...
I've been using these for about 1.5 years now. They are absolutely amazing. I use 1 large piece of glass with 3 grits 1 side 3 on the other. Everything i need in 1.5 ft sq. Cutting sheets In 1/3 sheets. Now prefer these over my water stones.
Per say, which grits are 1 - 6? Thanks
@@Magne-ficent 30,9,3,1,.03 all in micron purchased from lee valley. I dont use the 30 often. Rarely have to replace the 3,1 and .03 as only takes couple passes to make my things as the kids say "scary sharp". Lol.
Does this also work for plane blades?
Ok I’m that guy that didn’t know what sharp was! I just spent the last couple hours sharpening my cheap ass chisels with this system. My god I know what sharp is now! I almost bought a diamond plate for $150 that had 300 and 1000 grit. And then I watched this vid and bought this system. Thank you Johnathan!!! Game changer! I’m going to try dovetails soon and it’s because of this channel. Thanks man!
Jarrad Benson Dovetail and curved edge sharpening is what I'd like to see on video.
Jonathan, your content is always so helpful, thank you for posting such good videos. I for one, really appreciate you teaching this beginner woodworker the trade.
I searched on TH-cam and everyone is using this system for chisels. Would this be good for sharpening knives? It seems like I align the paper with the edge of the the glass and it would be just like using a sharpening stone.
I started sharpening my chisels using a method that Robin Lewis showed on his channel. It was easy and inexpensive too, but since I don't use or need to sharpen them very often, I've misplaced almost everything involved. Not to mention my belt sander is inoperative at the moment, so I'm going to buy into this system and make sure I don't l misplace anything. No belt sander needed!
I never knew Jimmy Kimmel was such a talented woodworker.
Didn't know he got this channel 😆
Wow great video! Totally ordering these now...I have a set of Narex that have gotten pretty beat up, I've never sharpened chisels before. Pretty confusing and expensive with the diamond/water stones. I did get a honing guide, so I just need the glass and paper. Awesome!
Can you used this system on hand plane blades?
Of course. Check put my latest hand plane video
Jonathan Katz-Moses I will. Just picked up my fathers 1960/70’s hand plane. My first one. I just need to refurbish the blade. Thanks!
Thanks for your sharing friend
I've been using various types of paper/ Emory cloth mounted on display shelf glass with success but I think this is better, thanks.
I use 3/8 inch polycarbonate sheets instead of the float glass. It is dead flat, cuts with a table saw, and is very hard to break. I also make my flats about 18-niches long. That leaves enough extra length fo have a good starting approach for the honing jig.
Ok, you need to show all the “Billy-Bob Redneck Bubba” that shop at “the Walmart” or Home Depot how to do this on their out of the box adequate chisels. Helping a neighbor and his was from a local store and he never sharpened it. As in NEVER. I drove back home and got my tools. I didn’t let him use them, but he could touch them. I thought about trying, and I am NOT the person to do this. So thanks. P.S. we use blades to cut real things, stop it with the paper test. Now if you could do the edge of the samurai sword from “the Bodyguard”. Then you get crazy accolades.
To loosen the backing paper on a PSA surface, curl your middle finger onto your thumb and flick the tip of the corner of the sheet. You can flick the paper several times in succession. The paper and the backing will separate and you can grab the backing and peel it off.
Wonder if this is adaptable to tight curved surfaces (glass rod?). I have to polish my lathe tools, and this could be very interesting.
A sharp chisel is never scary. The sharpest chisel is the safest chisel. Don't ask me how I know.
Thank you so much for this video. I have probably spent around $100 on only 2 stones and some lubricant additive and I still have trouble getting my backside flat at times. This system was the answer to everything I have been researching the last couple days in hopes to hone in my chisel/ plane blades. I have been a big follower of William Douglas for a while now and found your page through one of his videos when you visited his new shop a while back. You both are my first go to wealths of woodworking information anytime I start researching. Point in case… this very video. Thanks again!
We used aluminium oxide mixed with water on a glass plate to sharpen microtome knives that cut sections 5 microns thick (0.0001968504").
funny, this is what ive been doing for years mainly because I was too poor/cheap for good whet stones.. Auto body Wet dry sand paper and couple piece of glass works magic. And someone marketed this as a sharpening system? Noice.
Queston, could using high gloss flooring ceramic tiles also work? I recently purchased this sharpening system off of your website and I can't wait to use it!
I've been doing a lot of sharpening, and I just realized my flattening stone that I use to flatten my water stones is no longer flat! Can I use the 300 grit/40 micron 3M micro lapping film to flatten my water stones and flattening stone (if I only pull in one direction)?
I'm also hoping to use my float glass to flatten the sole of my Japanese hand planes, but after your very helpful video I'm thinking I'll need to get some other adhesive backed sand paper for that purpose. Is that right?
I bought the honing jig from the KM tools site. Do the same measurements apply for the 25/30 degrees? I was trying to figure that out. Thanks
I saw you skipped the yellow (1200 grit) since they send 3 pieces of glass and 7 papers. Is that what you recommend I skip when setting mine up?
3m makes diamond lapping film. I havent tried it yet, but the reviews are positive. The different sharpening stones require maintenance and this does not. In some cases the flattening stones are over $200. No brainer!
Welp, I ordered the honing guide, the glass and sand paper. I’ve be been in the market now for a while for a sharpening system. Was going to go with the diamond plates, but didn’t wanna spend the money. It looks like this system will work well. And for 70 bucks, it’s right where I wanna be.
Is there a reason 1200 grit (yellow) was skipped? 600 to 1800 isn't too big of a jump in grits?
If himself is dog eared, then magnusson diamond plate at 150 grit will be 10 times faster at removing steel.
So with all the sheets you can get, is it only 3-4 that I would use? Just trying to figure out how many pieces of float glass I would need to get so I have enough for each piece of sandpaper I would be using.
@Jonathan Katz-Moses you know the scratch marks are killing you inside ･_･
Would I be correct in assuming you could use this setup for plane blades too?
Edit: yes you can, he did it in his plane sharpening tutorial.
Gonna get this to get some even higher grits. Also, you answered a major question I've had. I have the same angle jig and thought it couldn't do narrow chisels because I was always using the top part (where you would put a plane iron) I had no idea it could accept chisels in the lower part. So thanks for that!
Well it looks to be the same guide I just got, and it literally tells you which to use for planes or chisels
@@Wimpyking17 Just got the Veritas sharpener
Oh yes and sadly the rest of the world doesn't use the American imperial system of measurement, half inch, quarter inch.
Just ordered the scaredy sharp kit a sharping jig and the horse hide strip with the compound I'm gonna try it on my samurai sword I have. But I will now have scary sharp chisels and plane irons now.
I use 3M wet dry paper on granite and my tools are sharp as ever...I sold my stones and my Tormek, and I’m never looking back.
Help guys. I have a flea market plane iron. I flattened the back and used a honing guide on some 150 grit sandpaper to prepare the iron for honing. I was doing that and used two sheets of sand paper and for the life of me can't get a burr on the back. I thought ok maybe I just can't see it but after running it on my 400 grit water stone for a few minutes, still no burr. They take off material but there is no burr on the back and the iron doesn't feel any sharper.
Hate to tell ya. But you can make a strop way finer than 60k grit.
Can't wait to try this sharpening system. Thanks for another great video.
Thanks for the new sharpening video. Didn’t want to commit to Waterstones. Just ordered this set up.
A carpenter/ tv host 😂😂 amazing how average /normal trades people are tv ready 😂😂😂
Hmm but can it cut the very fabric of the universe ? Wait did he say I’m not going to sit here and shave myself for your or my enjoyment ... oh er misses.
Great video. TY
Anyone who's sanded a CPU heatsink knows this technique and has used these sanding papers...
Appreciate the affordable option. Really difficult to get started when you have to spend a couple hundred bucks for stones
I like your channel bro. Keep it up and I wanna stop seeing gauze and bandaids around your hand lol.
With only three sheets of glass, which “grit” lapping paper are you skipping?
It looks like Taylor tools are sold out of the 5x12" float glass. Anyone know where else we can get them? Thanks
Ask any glazier ! 🤨
Sadly the rest of the world doesn't have access to American products.
Question, can I use acrylic plates of the same size instead of glass?
Has anyone found these sheets in Europe?
I can only find non-PSA type.
Thank you, nice explanation! It occurred to me that a person could make their lapping paper supplies last longer by cutting it to width just a fraction greater than their bevel roller wheels or their widest chisel, planer or jointer blade (rather than the width of the whole float glass sheet).
Cool...I have seen that super fine sandpaper at Walmart automotive dept.
what kind of class is that ? I am not from US find his accent hard to translate.TIA
I label everything in my shop with black gaff tape and a silver metallic sharpie. Sticks great, more durable than blue tape, extremely visible and it can still come off with little to no residue.
great tip bud!
Dude’s Band-Aids increase his credibility.
7:53 Careful not to chip off the apex on the edge by pulling the chisel off the plate carelessly! Otherwise quite the inexpensive system! :)
Hi Jonathan just come a cross your video scary sharp can you buy these sheets in the UK
I didn't understand what kind of glass it was, can you please say it again?
Just got all this stuff and man it’s so amazing how easy it is
Jimmy Kimmel can sharpen chisels....who knew??
Nice. When I first started into handtools, I used sandpaper (scary sharp) but eventually abandoned it for diamond plates and waterstones. However, in the next couple months I will be teaching an introduction to handplanes class at a local store. Although it won't be dedicated to sharpening, I will certainly cover that aspect. In that regard, I ordered the set of 3 glass plates and 3M paper from Talylor toolworks from your video link. I figure that will be a nice introduction to sharpening to show to newbies for only about $50 that will include everything they need. May even add that to the price of the class and make them up for the students. At any rate, thanks for the video and for reminding me of this sharpening method that I hadn't thought about for years.
Sounds like a cool class!
Awesome! Thanks for sharing. Great demo video.
I have used this system for about a year now. I works great. I have been looking where to buy these sheets. Thanks for you information. I enjoy watching your videos and I always learn something new each one.
What is the dimension of you flow glass blocks.?
Ordered! I've Struggled with effective sharpening so hopefully this will be the thing that gets me there!
Hooked Workshop hopefully worked better for you then for me. My sandpaper doesn’t stick to the glass at all.
So guys, 10 months later, how are you getting on with this?
Is this really cheaper than stones long term?
How's it been?
I've been using similar papers that are used for polishing fiber optics for many years. They're great.
Agreed!
At 10:58 tears of happiness blurred my vision.
Looking at all the band-aid on your fingers, these chisels must be crazy sharp!
Very interesting method, I'll give it a go...
(And get loads of band-aid ready, as I'm far from your level of expertise..)
Thank you for sharing the video and the inspiration!
What type cloth are you using to clean with or is that just paper towels?
How do you scrape off the micron paper if you want to replace it?
Do you prefer this or stones?
Always learned that you sharpen against the edge....
Thanks. Helpful. Any reason you can just write the grit number on the actual paper instead of some blue tape or will that fade away with the water?
I assume it would come off pretty quickly
I mount all mine on a single piece of float in grit order (with space between each, obviously!)
You made sharpening interesting... Kill me now.
Has anyone tried this with kitchen knives or other non-woodworking tools?
I have used this method since the 70's. I showed a friend who owns a barber shop how to sharpen her clipper blades. She had been told that they couldn't be sharpened and had thrown them out. She does all her blades now and was really ticked that she had thrown out so many blades over the years. I can sharpen almost anything on this with the correct hand skill.
How do you store that glass? Would like a good case!
This is great. I've been using my King water stones for a very long time. They work great on chisels (finest grit 6000), but with my venture into handplaning, I need better as the stones are getting pretty thin. Was looking at Shapton glass backed stones and just haven't been able to pull the trigger. This is a superbly viable option. I get 3/8" float glass from a friend as remnants. Fist-bumps, hugs, high fives @ you. :-)