The armor lock remote should have been an armor enhancement or combination of armor enhancements Temple got from his victims. Which he made his own improvements on as the implications of such a weapon is lore breaking as literally every fighter except the Insurrectionists would be defeated easily. The Blues and Reds are so boring partially due to their skillsets being so lackluster and could have been so much more even comedically. Cronut: Strength enhancements to throw large absurdly large objects with pinpoint accuracy. (Plus any ships land on him he can lift them up) Surge: Put an A.I inside Surge's gun like Freckles. Inspired by how Tex tried to kill Grif with Sarge's shotgun in S8 like how Felix tried to kill Caboose with Freckles in S13. Gene: Have him carry around a portal making device in reference to Simmons skills with portal technology in S3. It gives a believable way as to how the crew can infiltrate and evade the UNSC let they do. (Have it built into his potential cybernetics) Buckey: A jetpack that doubles as a flamethrower like Tucker's sword doubles as a key both giving different forms of both accessibility and defense. Since Tucker feels like he has"Jedi vibes" with his sword in S13 it only makes sense he polar opposites references Mandalorian the rivals to jedi'. Lorenzo: Can remote control a Warthog, Tank, & Ghost with his body like Sarge designed Lopez's original body in S2.
I just wish season 15 was standalone. It wasn’t perfect but it was enjoyable and it managed to have some decent character work especially for Caboose with his ending. Season 16 and 17 I just can’t stand at times and I really wish they never happened even if it does give the Red and Blues some closure before 18 occurs
While I don't mind the Shisno Paradox that much I will agree that it really doesn't fit in with the series prior, especially after Chorus Trilogy, a lot of the early to mid plot points relied on the Reds & Blues acting dumber than usual and while getting Krovos out of it was nice, it wasn't worth seeing characters like Tucker regress
I hated 15 so much when it came out that I never watched 16 or 17 until very recently. 16 wasn't great, but 17 really surprised me how much I enjoyed it.
Imagine if the Blues and reds are the ones who killed Flowers, and if Tucker and Sister time travel to that time and kill the guy who shot Flowers, they save him, but he becomes an antagonist for the next seasons since he doesn't want the reds & blues to learn about project freelancer
14:15 that bit always felt like it was just to use either Halo Wars games atleast once in the series, since that is the only appearance of either HW1 or HW2 in RvB. Even Halo 2 Anniversary Multiplayer only appears once, used for Season 13's Sister cameo. As a Golden Warthog can be seen outside the Base. Also Tucker is fighting against Banished units using UNSC units. Surely they could've recorded that stuff in MP since you can get a UNSC Green looking color in MP on Blue Team.
0:39 - 2:05 crazy how something very similar Jason Weight pitch for season 18. Siris would come back, triplets are back, UNSC & aliens would have some involvement in the plot. Scary as hell Jason leaks his pitch 4 months ago & this video was 2 years ago. Maybe in a alternative universe this happened in RVB story. Maybe season 15-17 could've been about Meta Tucker & Temple as villains but written better especially Temple. maybe in season 18-20 It could've been about the UNSC, Aliens & different Mercs coming back.
Did they actually state that the Reds & Blues were recruited to match the Blues & Reds personality profiles? Maybe I missed something but I just figured Command saw the "idiot sim troopers" thing as a success and said "Let's do it again".
My head cannon is that Temple is Malcolm Hargrove's son and the blues and reds are literal clones of the reds and blues. Temple created the blues and reds as a form of revenge by having them commit murders all over the unsc so the real reds and blues would be blamed. Temple takes the guise of Church in order to hurt the reds and blues after they lost Church. Alpha/Epsilon Church is treated like the Director's son, like when he and Carolina call each other brother and sister, and Temple being Hargrove's son is the counter to that. I really hated the retcon in 15 where our reds and blues aren't the originals, but they just somehow have nearly exact duplicates who were already in teams before they were. We know cloning exists in the halo unsc, so it's not a stretch to have it in redvsblue. Hargrove could have gotten their genes secretly after the end of season 10 and Temple cloned them to get revenge on them for defeating his father both during the events of project freelancer and during the chorus war. Temple being Hargrove's son is a little cliche, but I really like the extra parallel between him and Church, Church being sort of the Director's son and Temple being the son of the Director's enemy.
Those seasons aren't really the best. I'll be doing episodes about them. They have cool things but overall id prefer a different direction as you can see in this video lol
@@Jake-dm4rk yeah. Visually, Zero is the peak of animation. But in my heart the story ended in season 13. The anthology is a cool set of loose stories.
One thing I liked about the last season before Zero (I havent watched that one) was the ending for the main bad guy. It was just so satisfying, it just clicked well with me at the time.
@@Jake-dm4rk They are fragments of one guy. Blood Gulch Chronicles was Alpha being tortured by Gamma and Omega, hence why only after Tucker's armor goes back from having the black stuff on it to its regular colour, then Beta, Tex, Appears looking exactly like Tucker in black. In season 14, with Locus and Felix as Gangsters, the same excavating vehicle is seen which we see in the Epsilon memory unit when Sarge uses a larger version of he same machine to "Kick the Planet's Ass". Also, when we see sarge get recruited by Lemons, he holds a flamethrower with the SHARK FACE design, then when Buckshot dies, Sarge gets a Shotgun. I could go on and on with this rabbit hole. These examples plus more prove everyone are fragments of 1 guy ultimately.
@@zoa1-99....... well firstly, the black stuff on Tucker’s armor doesnt canonically look like that as seen in season 8. The excavating vehicle literally could just be the same model, they are in the same universe after all. And the flamethrower literally just looks like that in Halo 1 so whether they intended it or not it was unavoidable either way
@@zoa1-99....... yeah red vs blue has definitely had the most concise and well thought out lore that they would plan all of this stuff out beforehand, ignoring the fact that church wasnt the alpha in season one, some machines just look the same sometimes when their in the same universe, and flamethrowers literally could not have a different design than a shark in halo 1. The red vs blue lore is just so tight and has absolutely no plotholes. Theres never been a single time where something was brought up as a plotpoint then completely forgotten about. (Cough cough tex’s favor) Theres never been any retcons or anything because they definitely planned this all out (cough cough they didnt time travel in season 3 and literally all of season 17)
The armor lock remote should have been an armor enhancement or combination of armor enhancements Temple got from his victims. Which he made his own improvements on as the implications of such a weapon is lore breaking as literally every fighter except the Insurrectionists would be defeated easily.
The Blues and Reds are so boring partially due to their skillsets being so lackluster and could have been so much more even comedically.
Cronut: Strength enhancements to throw large absurdly large objects with pinpoint accuracy. (Plus any ships land on him he can lift them up)
Surge: Put an A.I inside Surge's gun like Freckles. Inspired by how Tex tried to kill Grif with Sarge's shotgun in S8 like how Felix tried to kill Caboose with Freckles in S13.
Gene: Have him carry around a portal making device in reference to Simmons skills with portal technology in S3. It gives a believable way as to how the crew can infiltrate and evade the UNSC let they do. (Have it built into his potential cybernetics)
Buckey: A jetpack that doubles as a flamethrower like Tucker's sword doubles as a key both giving different forms of both accessibility and defense. Since Tucker feels like he has"Jedi vibes" with his sword in S13 it only makes sense he polar opposites references Mandalorian the rivals to jedi'.
Lorenzo: Can remote control a Warthog, Tank, & Ghost with his body like Sarge designed Lopez's original body in S2.
That would have been more creative
I just wish season 15 was standalone. It wasn’t perfect but it was enjoyable and it managed to have some decent character work especially for Caboose with his ending. Season 16 and 17 I just can’t stand at times and I really wish they never happened even if it does give the Red and Blues some closure before 18 occurs
While I don't mind the Shisno Paradox that much I will agree that it really doesn't fit in with the series prior, especially after Chorus Trilogy, a lot of the early to mid plot points relied on the Reds & Blues acting dumber than usual and while getting Krovos out of it was nice, it wasn't worth seeing characters like Tucker regress
I hated 15 so much when it came out that I never watched 16 or 17 until very recently. 16 wasn't great, but 17 really surprised me how much I enjoyed it.
Imagine if the Blues and reds are the ones who killed Flowers, and if Tucker and Sister time travel to that time and kill the guy who shot Flowers, they save him, but he becomes an antagonist for the next seasons since he doesn't want the reds & blues to learn about project freelancer
14:15 that bit always felt like it was just to use either Halo Wars games atleast once in the series, since that is the only appearance of either HW1 or HW2 in RvB. Even Halo 2 Anniversary Multiplayer only appears once, used for Season 13's Sister cameo. As a Golden Warthog can be seen outside the Base.
Also Tucker is fighting against Banished units using UNSC units. Surely they could've recorded that stuff in MP since you can get a UNSC Green looking color in MP on Blue Team.
Can’t wait for the next part Jake keep up the good work
Thanks I appreciate that!
Best theory channel on yt
Thanks
0:39 - 2:05 crazy how something very similar Jason Weight pitch for season 18.
Siris would come back, triplets are back, UNSC & aliens would have some involvement in the plot.
Scary as hell Jason leaks his pitch 4 months ago & this video was 2 years ago.
Maybe in a alternative universe this happened in RVB story.
Maybe season 15-17 could've been about Meta Tucker & Temple as villains but written better especially Temple.
maybe in season 18-20 It could've been about the UNSC, Aliens & different Mercs coming back.
Did they actually state that the Reds & Blues were recruited to match the Blues & Reds personality profiles? Maybe I missed something but I just figured Command saw the "idiot sim troopers" thing as a success and said "Let's do it again".
They said replicate their personality profiles. Otherwise I think the exact personality of each one being copied would be too coincidental
@@Jake-dm4rk Yeah, that's really dumb then. Like half the characters were different in the first seasons.
My head cannon is that Temple is Malcolm Hargrove's son and the blues and reds are literal clones of the reds and blues. Temple created the blues and reds as a form of revenge by having them commit murders all over the unsc so the real reds and blues would be blamed. Temple takes the guise of Church in order to hurt the reds and blues after they lost Church. Alpha/Epsilon Church is treated like the Director's son, like when he and Carolina call each other brother and sister, and Temple being Hargrove's son is the counter to that.
I really hated the retcon in 15 where our reds and blues aren't the originals, but they just somehow have nearly exact duplicates who were already in teams before they were. We know cloning exists in the halo unsc, so it's not a stretch to have it in redvsblue. Hargrove could have gotten their genes secretly after the end of season 10 and Temple cloned them to get revenge on them for defeating his father both during the events of project freelancer and during the chorus war.
Temple being Hargrove's son is a little cliche, but I really like the extra parallel between him and Church, Church being sort of the Director's son and Temple being the son of the Director's enemy.
I haven't watched beyond 15 lol.
Those seasons aren't really the best. I'll be doing episodes about them. They have cool things but overall id prefer a different direction as you can see in this video lol
@@Jake-dm4rk yeah. Visually, Zero is the peak of animation. But in my heart the story ended in season 13. The anthology is a cool set of loose stories.
For the best, I only watched them just to say I did and I havent seen them again since
One thing I liked about the last season before Zero (I havent watched that one) was the ending for the main bad guy. It was just so satisfying, it just clicked well with me at the time.
Yes, makes sense, again, they are fragments of one guy.
What are you referring to?
@@Jake-dm4rk They are fragments of one guy. Blood Gulch Chronicles was Alpha being tortured by Gamma and Omega, hence why only after Tucker's armor goes back from having the black stuff on it to its regular colour, then Beta, Tex, Appears looking exactly like Tucker in black. In season 14, with Locus and Felix as Gangsters, the same excavating vehicle is seen which we see in the Epsilon memory unit when Sarge uses a larger version of he same machine to "Kick the Planet's Ass". Also, when we see sarge get recruited by Lemons, he holds a flamethrower with the SHARK FACE design, then when Buckshot dies, Sarge gets a Shotgun. I could go on and on with this rabbit hole. These examples plus more prove everyone are fragments of 1 guy ultimately.
@@zoa1-99....... well firstly, the black stuff on Tucker’s armor doesnt canonically look like that as seen in season 8. The excavating vehicle literally could just be the same model, they are in the same universe after all. And the flamethrower literally just looks like that in Halo 1 so whether they intended it or not it was unavoidable either way
@@LucyWest370 Rooster Teeth never do things willy nilly with those clues. Hence why the vehicle looks the same etc.
@@zoa1-99....... yeah red vs blue has definitely had the most concise and well thought out lore that they would plan all of this stuff out beforehand, ignoring the fact that church wasnt the alpha in season one, some machines just look the same sometimes when their in the same universe, and flamethrowers literally could not have a different design than a shark in halo 1. The red vs blue lore is just so tight and has absolutely no plotholes. Theres never been a single time where something was brought up as a plotpoint then completely forgotten about. (Cough cough tex’s favor) Theres never been any retcons or anything because they definitely planned this all out (cough cough they didnt time travel in season 3 and literally all of season 17)
Do you think Gene and Lorenzo are dead
Yeah I think they are. I doubt they'll be seen again so more then likely they died.
Though I have to say those were the two laziest copies if the team. Gene was literally a clone lol