US Public TV docu on CART era Indycars, about 1995.

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  • Found this while going through my old friends' video stash again. I know exactly where I comes from, and it cost them $19.95 at the time. It even has the "pledge drive time" little cardboard case on it.
    OTOH, I'm pretty stoked that they were just as curious about how MSM witnessed our sport as I often was. And honestly, this one's not so bad. It kind of follows Rahal & Hogan through their "I need tickets" year at the speedway.
    Good interviews with Lyn St.James, Willy T. Ribbs, Jim Hall, and a couple of others.
    And a couple of rare clips, too! Willy T. sparring in the ring, and Mr. Hall flying his model airplane. Amazing to see it documented that both of those stories are true, after all this time. :).
    Maybe that's why they bought a copy? From the collection of Jacob W. and M. Vivian Shoemaker. (RIP).

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  • @Crisgo3d
    @Crisgo3d 8 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Miss the old days of CART. All the whos who raced in it

  • @chipwhitley9407
    @chipwhitley9407 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I remember stumbling upon this on PBS while channel surfing one night in 1995. First time I've seen it since. Thanks for uploading it, oldSCCAguy!

  • @paulreilly3904
    @paulreilly3904 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Dear sir, once again you have come up trumps with this one. I know that I am late to the party, but it's a fascinating look at a relatively obscure, for an Englishman, branch of our sport. In no way do I wish to belittle Indy cars, but firstly its historical, and secondly we got absolutely no coverage at the time. Also thank you for a very good description, the right mix of family history, without being intrusive, and context. Very well done. Best wishes from Oxford.

  • @AlonsoRules
    @AlonsoRules 8 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Then Tony George came along and stuffed it all up

    • @oldsccaguyyah9901
      @oldsccaguyyah9901  8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      +Anthony Kernich , no doubt. I even had non-racing friends asking, "Wait..you mean the folks racing at Indy race at other tracks all year long?!?". It would have been great.

  • @eddellis9533
    @eddellis9533 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I spent 4 hours practically shaking while molding Emerson's steering wheel -- Ser.#001 -- the day after qualifying...and it got STOLEN at the Victory Banquet! I built a replica of that wheel and donated it to the Indy museum. Danny Sullivan's wheel -- Ser.#002 -- shows my grips nicely at the beginning of the credits.
    Willy's wheel was more flamboyant since he asked for his sponsor's colors: red/white. I did 2 wheels for Lyn and the Brickyard, and one for Eddie and Scott Goodyear...not too a bad debut for PersonaGrip!
    Truth be known, Bobby Rahal was the first to have me do a wheel, but his struggles prevented him from using it until later in the season when I made a proper wheel at Nazareth. Ser.#409 got shipped last week. Thanks for posting this video...almost a tearful trip down Memory Lane for me!

    • @jeremyjohnson8844
      @jeremyjohnson8844 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ed Dellis great stories. Thanks.

    • @rolux4853
      @rolux4853 ปีที่แล้ว

      You make the wheels?
      This is absolutely amazing!
      I’d love to have one for my sim racing rig, but I guess they are well outside my price range haha.

  • @SerPurple51
    @SerPurple51 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I can't help but get the image of Mr Potato head out of my brain when I see Bobby Rahal in the 90's.

    • @GenoSalvati
      @GenoSalvati 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sullivan was even more nerdy for a year or 2.

  • @Miklos82
    @Miklos82 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Love the scenes from Surfers Paradise @23 minutes. I wish Indy Car would return there. It's a great venue.

  • @mgrzx3367
    @mgrzx3367 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks, this takes me back to good old days. Used to visit Mid-Ohio for IMSA, CART, and the SVRA. The sounds and smells. !st trip to Mid-Ohio, I arrived to the Sound and site of a Ferrari 512S. That was Glorious.

  • @PeterMayer
    @PeterMayer 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    God I miss that sound

  • @bobbrooks80
    @bobbrooks80 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Jim Hall, nobody did it better!!!!!!!!!

    • @maxmulsanne7054
      @maxmulsanne7054 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Arguably the most innovative constructor in motorsports; his ideas eventually being established in F1 racing. *Notably ground-effects, airfoils and rear-mounted radiators.*

  • @jimgoodwin6440
    @jimgoodwin6440 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Brings back memories. Thanks for posting that.

  • @robroten6446
    @robroten6446 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for this ! I've been looking for this, off and on, for years. I saw it once, way back in the day, and always wanted to see it again.

    • @oldsccaguyyah9901
      @oldsccaguyyah9901  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Rob Roten, you are more than welcome. I loved CART. And the source tape really was the 'official' VHS sold by PBS. It's got NOVA logos all over it. Maybe that's why the quality's so much better (for VHS, anyway).

  • @speedweenie7394
    @speedweenie7394 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It may have been on in 95 but it's showing the 93 season.

  • @fredsambo
    @fredsambo 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is a killer video, thanks, dude!

  • @mrjasonwhite73
    @mrjasonwhite73 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I remember when this was on PBS. Good documentary piece.

  • @SwineBrothers
    @SwineBrothers 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i saw this on youtube in pretty rough quality, i think it was taped from the broadcast, so good to see this in good quality, thanks again. i'll do you one better, in 1996 you had the indycars which..didn't race at indy

  • @ozenfant_ozn
    @ozenfant_ozn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jim Hall!! this is priceless...

  • @MrMiD.Life.Crisis
    @MrMiD.Life.Crisis 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is this the lead up to the 93 season? I don't remember that much about indycars/cart from before then but being a Mansell fan i watched a little and do remember that Bobby went back to a Lola during the season . I think it was after dnq'ing at indy. Maaaan that would be crushing, the defending series champ doesn't make it into the field at the biggest race of the season and arguably the biggest if not one of the biggest races on the planet. It mustve hurt to have to scrap a car that youve put so much cash into.
    Great video, thanks to the uploader.
    Hope everyone is doing good.

    • @ri1288
      @ri1288 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And two years later in 95, same thing happened to the Penske team when all their cars missed Indy after their monster car in 1994. Indy was cruel back then.

  • @azroan63
    @azroan63 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thats my brother, Gary Grossenbacher, at 27:37. He passed away 4 years ago!

  • @2ndflash
    @2ndflash 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    great video. Ya know, I've always thought that it seemed as if Rahal wasn't ALL that upset about missing the 500. Seems to me that the car wasn't ready for it and Rahal was thankful that he didn't have to struggle with that POS during the 500. Just my take back then.

  • @MFitz12
    @MFitz12 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember watching this back in the day on PBS.

  • @daviddavid1972
    @daviddavid1972 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Emerson Fittipaldi and Bobby Rahal listed as "a couple of others". Indy 500 winners, CART Champions, and a 2-Time World Champion. Genius!

    • @SwineBrothers
      @SwineBrothers 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      what's with your shitty attitude?

  • @gcarlson
    @gcarlson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    6:05 it's "cha sis" is made of space age carbon fiber... ;-)

  • @Jpsouzaufv1
    @Jpsouzaufv1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Saudades da verdadeira F Indy. Aquela divisão só prejudicou a categoria.

  • @CMH-aviation
    @CMH-aviation 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    at 38:30ish you can hear the legend pa announcer tom carnegie in the background.

    • @GenoSalvati
      @GenoSalvati 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Man, that guy had some pipes.

  • @ThunderAppeal
    @ThunderAppeal 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I watched these races growing up.
    I never appreciated the level of sophistication in CART.

  • @GenoSalvati
    @GenoSalvati 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fans had a lot of hope for the Rahal-Hogan chassis (just don't call it the RaHog). Carl Hogan ran a trucking company in St. Louis and was always a hometown favorite. Nice to see some decent interviews with him, even though it was at a terrible time and he was under tremendous stress.

    • @almattei88
      @almattei88 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I interviewed him in 1998. Apparently the problem with the RH001 chassis is that it flexed too much. It was only after Indy when Rahal bought a Lola and Mike Groff put into the RH001 to develop it throughout the rest of the season. Needless to say, there never was an RH002 ....

    • @GenoSalvati
      @GenoSalvati 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@almattei88 After the partnership with Rahal went sideways he had some good results with a new driver named Helio Castro-Nevis and almost got the Dockers sponsorship that would have allowed his to keep him.

    • @SwineBrothers
      @SwineBrothers 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, I always wondered who Hogan was actually.

    • @rolux4853
      @rolux4853 ปีที่แล้ว

      And now 30 years later, his son Graham Rahal experienced exactly the same!He just got „lucky“ his teammate broke his back because he was punted by Kathrin Legge..

  • @SwineBrothers
    @SwineBrothers 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    ps always liked lyn st. james, i always felt she was an underrated driver who was always looked at as a novelty. but i always thought she had talent

    • @almostfm
      @almostfm 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      She did. She had the same problem that Janet Guthrie had-she got to Indycar late in her career. Guthrie was 39 when she first ran an Indy car, and St. James was 45. By that time, almost all drivers are on the downhill slope in terms of success, and it's tough to learn a whole new type of car and be competitive at that point.
      I really wish that both of them had gotten a chance in their mid-20s. They could have driven cars that were absolute sleds for a couple of years, and then work their way into better equipment.

    • @crambo765
      @crambo765 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      She was a lot better driver than Danica Patric who was and still is a joke. Not to mention a b****. Only driver who didn’t come out their trailer and sign autographs. I don’t want hers but what about all the little girls who were there.

    • @bobbrooks80
      @bobbrooks80 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Watched Lyn and Ribbs at Indy last August, 2019. Neither impressed me. On the last lap Lyn managed to put a '64 Stingray into the wall. Wasn't pretty. Good weekend , saw cars as old as 1911.

    • @markdinkel9006
      @markdinkel9006 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Definitely a nice lady. Had my pic taken with her when I was a part-time worker at Penneys. Her car was on display there

    • @maxmulsanne7054
      @maxmulsanne7054 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​​@@bobbrooks80All drivers crash at some point in their careers. Even after retirement during historic/vintage races.
      I'll add too that at least they weren't some douchebag-"driver" deliberately ramming their car into other competitors like Prost, Senna, Schumacher et al...

  • @richarddarlington1139
    @richarddarlington1139 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love Nova! They are very best at explaining complex ideas to laypersons. Just brilliant! Cliff Robertson as the narrator is an added bonus. Google him. His starring roll

  • @doowaditti
    @doowaditti 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I miss the days of Can-Am............No RULES!!!!!!!

  • @SwineBrothers
    @SwineBrothers 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    was the aspiring indycar driver working out anyone of future note?

  • @vinewood8295
    @vinewood8295 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    damn I was not paying attention back in 1993 I mean I remember Rahal missing the show but I forgot it was because they had their own unproven chassis. Why didn't they buy a Lola or Penske chassis and try again after realizing his own car was not good enough to make the show?

    • @DinsdalePiranha67
      @DinsdalePiranha67 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good point. Roger Penske wasn't above using someone else's chassis when the house brand wasn't up to the task. The car Al Unser drove to his 1987 Indy win was a year-old March chassis that, until a week before it was qualified for the race, had been sitting in a hotel lobby as a show car.

    • @ri1288
      @ri1288 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Interestingly, they did lease the Penske back up cars in 94 when they struggling. And Rahal repaid the favor in 95 when Penske was struggling

  • @kartracer127
    @kartracer127 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    15:16 but if you have to choose. 90 % of the drives take the lose car. They can control that ( not on a speedway but on a normal race track)...

  • @TheJagjr4450
    @TheJagjr4450 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    220 is just shy of 4 miles a minute... about 1 mile every 20 sec.

  • @daviddavid1972
    @daviddavid1972 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    1993...... Someone who follows racing should know that. Of course Fittipaldi and Rahal are "a couple of others".

    • @oldsccaguyyah9901
      @oldsccaguyyah9901  8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      +david wood , dude, it's a docu. Aired in '94 or so, copyright date on the box was '95. Your comment's like saying Ken Burns' Lewis & Clark docu is crap because he didn't make it in 1804. I'm not "trainspotting" over here.

    • @hazy33
      @hazy33 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fantastic doc, thanks for uploading! I think with the year bit he's just pointing out that it's about the 1993 season as your title saying "about 1995" could be taken that you're saying it's about the 1995 season.

  • @ajb9398
    @ajb9398 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    😔

  • @ianfrench1577
    @ianfrench1577 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was 1993, not 1995

  • @Dervig
    @Dervig 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    FAST CARS

  • @veritas41photo
    @veritas41photo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Indy cars could never claim the title of "most sophisticated in the world". Formula cars always had (and still have) that title. When the Indy organizers outlawed gas turbines, I stopped watching Indy 500 races.

  • @nunyabizznizz7326
    @nunyabizznizz7326 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    ...........shopping cart?

  • @hugh-johnfleming289
    @hugh-johnfleming289 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Geez... leave it to PBS to make even this politically correct and boring.

    • @PeterMayer
      @PeterMayer 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hugh-John Fleming what?

    • @hugh-johnfleming289
      @hugh-johnfleming289 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Peter Mayer They highlight St.James and Ribbs, neither of whom attained anything more than mediocrity at Indy, because of their gender/racial status. They are, no doubt, well spoken successful racers in other series and to be admired but regarding Indy they should be speaking with winnersand experts and not pandering to their leftist/hippy patrons. PBS has a major problem with this and they can't figure out why they have such a hard time finding support from, of all things, the PUBLIC.

    • @PeterMayer
      @PeterMayer 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Only a narrow-minded Republican right winger would watch something like this and come up with the ending phrase politically correct. Unreal. Well, not really.

    • @BSNFabricating
      @BSNFabricating 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      True, but I'd consider Rahal and Emmo fairly successful IndyCar racers. At the same time, if they would do a follow-up to this now and highlight Milka Duno, I'd agree that they've gone too far.

    • @nedrawtheworkingclasslefty3636
      @nedrawtheworkingclasslefty3636 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +Peter Mayer Seems like almost every video on TH-cam has someone whining about shit like this.