I love how Ben, in front of like 4 people, shoots Duncan point blank with the backwards shotgun and somehow everyone was surprised when it turned out he was a traitor.
and I assume when the cannons drop, it starts automatically shooting and adjusting its angle to hit every innocent. The intro is there essentially as a timer to annihilation
@@crusatyr1452 True. I was missing a couple, the Elf (and it's alt, which I think was communist?) that wants to get close to spread their role, since they have to hug someone to do it.
0:48 - Duncan asks if you know when you're doused; Lewis responds "yes, after 30 seconds." 3:53 - Zylus accuses Lewis of dousing because he just walked past; Lewis repeats the 30-second rule. 7:22 - Duncan asks how long until you know you're doused. 7:47 - Ravs points out he was doused while alone in a room; Lewis repeats the 30-second rule. I love this group. 😅
Its literally because the Snake skin is the only skin to have actual like IRL camouflage patterns on it but to be fair people are so incredibly blind in the Yogscast it wouldn't have mattered if he was like bright grey
18:55 Ben gets hung up on Rythian and neither notice Daltos was the only one who could of doused them and then ending it with a red matter bomb was perhaps the greatest thing to come out of everything going wrong for Rythian this episode
can't wait to see strategies for being and defeating an arsonist evolve over time. [edit] we need a proximity role pack. all the roles that want to be near someone.
I think they have both guns in play (though I haven’t seen any clips with the actual HUGE), so whenever they get one or two of those guns, they confuse it for the other (when honestly it doesn’t matter too much, asides from the awful recoil)
@@palecaptainwolfkayls8499 The Ares *Shrike* (not Strike!) has horrendous recoil and high damage, but the Huge (M249 SAW) has terrible damage and low(er) recoil. The huge also has a much higher fire rate, which weirdly enough makes controlling its recoil even easier. It's not too difficult to stay on target with the huge, but its bullet spread is so wide it's wildly inaccurate anyways.
I'm curious if there is a possible arsonist variant where you douse someone in pheromones which attracks bees and then, when you've doused enough people, you spawn a lot of bees that are speficially attracted to the doused people. Like exclusively attrackted. Perhaps more as a one-off joke than a regular role, but something which might come up as a randomat result (like the other bee-related roles).
Considering the informant needs to be close and the arsonist needs to be close, and the shadow needs to be close but you can kill it without much issue, there now needs to be an innocent role that needs to be close. Maybe a "guardian angel" that protects their target from damage when close, similar to the sponge?
Was reading the comments wondering why no-one was talking about Rythian's seriously impressive deduction work about Zylus... and then I finished the round and understood!
At the same time, if they did go out and the arsonist only has one use, people'd just camp water after being doused until the effect was used up. ...Maybe some sort of "you can remove the gasoline before you catch fire if you meet certain conditions" mechanic could be a solution. Gives the arsonist motive to activate ignite early once people start getting alerts.
@@Dxm2000andNinju Or the arsonist can light other players on fire more than once. Besides, the arsonist is only using gasoline, right? It doesn't make a lot of sense for a person on fire to not be able to put out the flames if they submerge themselves in water if the fire's fueled by gasoline. Maybe napalm...
I feel like the Arsonist is kinda a failed roll. The big issue is there's no REAL objective for them to have. It's like the Jester where you just wanted to be killed by someone and then it ends. Like just participating in the role isn't enough, there's no justified change for the role to exist. If "gasoline can" was a weapon the traitors could use to douse people (without them knowing), then set it off at once to do 30 damage, that would work, but as it's own role it's meaningless, I mean, even the Mud Scientist gives the player more to do. If they wanted a new brown role, I'd like something like a Cannibal. Take inspiration from the evolver weapon they used to have YEARS ago, and have the Cannibal be able to eat human bodies to get some kinda buff. Or, maybe have a role called Xeno: let the player "plant eggs" inside dead bodies, and the body will turn green and 10 seconds later, an antlion worker will pop out. Things like that give players an objective, rather than just a weapon.
Idea of arsonist: if someone gets ignited by a different fire damage source (as they are fairly rare), or touch a burning person, it can trigger a doused person to light as if they were hit with the ability.
Heres a role idea: Tamperer -- has the ability to falsity death readout information meaning the detective would need a specil item to be sure of the truth.
Honestly, that seems less like it should be a role and just a mechanic. You just have a gasoline can and you can douse people in gasoline, and then they go up in flames when exposed to fire. It's oddly restricted if it's role specific, but seems like using fire as a mechanic rather than an role would create new avenues for emergent gameplay. That said, this is Gmod, so I don't know how easy it is to implement something like that as a mechanic, as opposed to just adapting a role.
"Everyone's an idiot, Duncan... I mean, Rythian" Yep, everyone's an idiot. Even you can't remember who you're talking to, despite playing with these guys for years and years.
I don’t know why this episode is the one where I suddenly realised how many hours I’ve spent watching TTT since they started playing it back in the day… but there you go… internal crisis is a go apparently
I wonder if you can survive the arsonist by killing the swapper? After igniting, you'd be immune to fire, and before the igniting, you technically respawn i think, so such effects might get cleared...
2:18 🤦♂️oh Daltos the self awareness on Duncan's arsonist play on you and ben, tbh could of been a jester play till both of them saw they were dousted
It would be interesting for traitors to have an arsonist fake item, make people think they got doused when they actually didn't, make the popup message slightly different so if they are paying attention they can figure out it's fake.
But what value what a traitor have in pretending to be a (more obvious) role that'd have people want to kill them? Especially one that, message giveaway or not, still cements them as a to-be-killed role?
@@PanSpaceman Yeah it wouldn't be an ideal choice for a traitor to spend a credit on but if it was a faker or given via some other means it would sow confusion in the innocents trying to find the real arsonist and the fake one.
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It's about time Lewis got revenge for all those intro kills.
That was amazing lmao.
BEEPULON RETURNS
I love how Ben, in front of like 4 people, shoots Duncan point blank with the backwards shotgun and somehow everyone was surprised when it turned out he was a traitor.
"Because they're all STUPID!" - Daltos, like one round later.
And Rythian knew 100% Zulu’s was the arsonist, definitely not the informant😂😂
The 1812 Overture for the packapunch cannon is kinda genius
Probably the V for Vendetta version too.
@@phantomfire5013Did that movie have a different version of the song?
@@Satherian not really, but it was interspersed with a lot of explosions. I'd imagine it's at least a reference
Reminds me of the RYNO V from Rachet and Clank: A Crack in Time
and I assume when the cannons drop, it starts automatically shooting and adjusting its angle to hit every innocent. The intro is there essentially as a timer to annihilation
I think this means there'll be a 'hugfest' role pack with all the roles that want to stay close to other players.
Shadow, Arsonist, Informant, Sponge and maybe Paladin?
Missing anyone?
@@Razgriz_Ace18 And they bring back the Snuggle Struggle weapon
@@crusatyr1452 True. I was missing a couple, the Elf (and it's alt, which I think was communist?) that wants to get close to spread their role, since they have to hug someone to do it.
Include only traitor weapons that require close range to work. We can call the pack "The Bane of Zylus." No sniping required.
@@crusatyr1452 the implication of the name is why i think they removed it, i think under another name it'd fit back in.
Rythian says that he wouldn't get away with the "master of stealth" type of play.... and yet people once thought he was a chair.
Well, it was the opposite though. Lewis thought a chair was him. Meaning if a object is just vibrantly blue enough Lewis will think its Rythian.
To be fair, wasn't that chair shot right away?
@@aBendorff so the lesson is then that a chair could get away with a "perfectly normal lawyer in TTT" type of play
*"Once?!"*
The upgraded artillery cannon playing the 1812 overture is so funny
Ravs was Snake this episode. Both a master of stealth and grizzled veteran.
0:48 - Duncan asks if you know when you're doused; Lewis responds "yes, after 30 seconds."
3:53 - Zylus accuses Lewis of dousing because he just walked past; Lewis repeats the 30-second rule.
7:22 - Duncan asks how long until you know you're doused.
7:47 - Ravs points out he was doused while alone in a room; Lewis repeats the 30-second rule.
I love this group. 😅
Ravs truly is the master of stealth.
He mastered the ability of standing so incredibly still that he becomes invisible to the eye.
Its literally because the Snake skin is the only skin to have actual like IRL camouflage patterns on it
but to be fair people are so incredibly blind in the Yogscast it wouldn't have mattered if he was like bright grey
18:55 Ben gets hung up on Rythian and neither notice Daltos was the only one who could of doused them and then ending it with a red matter bomb was perhaps the greatest thing to come out of everything going wrong for Rythian this episode
10:50 Rythian and Ben, snatching a loss from victory!
That clutch accidental lewis revive while Duncan got slowly car'd 🫶
Rythian losing his mind and singing "Frog on the wall" had me rolling
i have to see that upgraded artillery cannon
I hope we get to see it fire at some point
Chekov's cannon
There needs to be a compilation of Ravs being Snake in TTT because he does perform some of the most sneaky insane plays.
This is the Ravs special baby. I also love the fact that ravs picked solid snake and has basically never looked back (except for lasagna)
18:34 Ben: I'm gnot
a gnelf, gnot a gnoblin...
Now I wanna see the full 1812 overture pack-a-punch artillery section.
"You are gonna fcking die, every fcking round! Every fcking round!"
What an amazing song Rythian!
I love thow they had to explain three times that you only get the message 30 seconds after, lmao.
Ohhh after 30 seconds?
can't wait to see strategies for being and defeating an arsonist evolve over time.
[edit] we need a proximity role pack. all the roles that want to be near someone.
Shadow stalking the arsonist would be pretty fun.
It is of the highest honor that one of the roles I suggested has made it's way into a Yogscast video!
Okay, that arson play at the start was clutch
I'm not bad, you're bad! (Ryhian's definition of being "Tricksy")
and yet it somehow works
Duncan pulling the rug out from under the 1812 overture mortar right before it popped off was the biggest tease of the game
15:40 LMAOOOOOOO
18:43 That was amazing unintended teamwork!
19:34 Ravs proving why he's the Master of Stealth.
It's great that they still come up with new fun stuff for this game.
5:26 Lewis... Lewis... Lewis... You've been playing how long?! That's not a Huge. That's an Ares Strike! I am surprised he managed to get that kill.
I think they have both guns in play (though I haven’t seen any clips with the actual HUGE), so whenever they get one or two of those guns, they confuse it for the other (when honestly it doesn’t matter too much, asides from the awful recoil)
@@palecaptainwolfkayls8499 The Ares *Shrike* (not Strike!) has horrendous recoil and high damage, but the Huge (M249 SAW) has terrible damage and low(er) recoil.
The huge also has a much higher fire rate, which weirdly enough makes controlling its recoil even easier. It's not too difficult to stay on target with the huge, but its bullet spread is so wide it's wildly inaccurate anyways.
@@MGSLurmey
Not like bullet spread will help certain yogs kill with it any faster, ha
Both are terrible LMGs so it's an easy mistakea to makea
It blows my mind how many maps rav’s natural camo works for its brilliant 😂
10:55 Looks like the win rate of Left and Wright is down even more. They were doing so well at the start of the round as well.
ravs the master of stealth strikes again
17:34
Lmao Run
Lmao Bang
@@professorcoms2481 Classic Zoey
8:28 to hear more about ball lightning, tune into the zero degrees podcast!
13:26 Because it's the Yogscast.
I'm curious if there is a possible arsonist variant where you douse someone in pheromones which attracks bees and then, when you've doused enough people, you spawn a lot of bees that are speficially attracted to the doused people. Like exclusively attrackted. Perhaps more as a one-off joke than a regular role, but something which might come up as a randomat result (like the other bee-related roles).
genius play from Lewis
You've given a jester A FLAMING WEAPON!!
Classic Rythiam and Ben! Though tbf, Ravs played that very well.
5:39 Ravs, master of stealth.
ravs got those pro plays in this one.. master of stealth, AND deception! abandoning his room was brilliant lol
"Veterans do so much damage! Like I died so quickly!" - Rythian, on 25 health, getting shot by a Rifle
Pretty sneaky, Lewis
Considering the informant needs to be close and the arsonist needs to be close, and the shadow needs to be close but you can kill it without much issue, there now needs to be an innocent role that needs to be close. Maybe a "guardian angel" that protects their target from damage when close, similar to the sponge?
Was reading the comments wondering why no-one was talking about Rythian's seriously impressive deduction work about Zylus... and then I finished the round and understood!
Rythian blatantly ignoring the "No grudges between rounds" rule. He is just like Lewis.
To be fair, he resolved his grudge in the same round(thanks to the rez) and then didn't bring it back after... So accidentally safe?
A classic Rythian and Ben round just what I needed
Ravs is the master of stealth!
More and more it becomes Town of Salem. Pretty cool to see the mechanics applied to ttt successfully.
I'd argue that the flames not going out even if a player submerges themself in water is a sign that the arsonist role is OP.
At the same time, if they did go out and the arsonist only has one use, people'd just camp water after being doused until the effect was used up. ...Maybe some sort of "you can remove the gasoline before you catch fire if you meet certain conditions" mechanic could be a solution. Gives the arsonist motive to activate ignite early once people start getting alerts.
@@Dxm2000andNinju Or the arsonist can light other players on fire more than once. Besides, the arsonist is only using gasoline, right? It doesn't make a lot of sense for a person on fire to not be able to put out the flames if they submerge themselves in water if the fire's fueled by gasoline. Maybe napalm...
Love how they keep adding things that make them paranoid about everything!
Somehow this is peak Yogscast, with equal parts good plays, misplays, and actual goofs
Alright, petition for ravs to change his model to topless snake! let's inspire some heroism!!
Rythian plays as a bad guy.
Rythian ghosts like crazy and makes a forever grudge for getting killed while doing bad things.
There should be an item in the Arsonist's shop that makes them light on fake fire to trick everyone into thinking they aren't the arsonist.
I feel like the Arsonist is kinda a failed roll. The big issue is there's no REAL objective for them to have. It's like the Jester where you just wanted to be killed by someone and then it ends. Like just participating in the role isn't enough, there's no justified change for the role to exist. If "gasoline can" was a weapon the traitors could use to douse people (without them knowing), then set it off at once to do 30 damage, that would work, but as it's own role it's meaningless, I mean, even the Mud Scientist gives the player more to do.
If they wanted a new brown role, I'd like something like a Cannibal. Take inspiration from the evolver weapon they used to have YEARS ago, and have the Cannibal be able to eat human bodies to get some kinda buff. Or, maybe have a role called Xeno: let the player "plant eggs" inside dead bodies, and the body will turn green and 10 seconds later, an antlion worker will pop out. Things like that give players an objective, rather than just a weapon.
I love the new level of paranoia that the arsonist brought to this round. So far doesn't seem OP or crap, a good balance.
Things are heating up this round!
I suspect the arsonist will lead to more jester wins 😂
Idea of arsonist: if someone gets ignited by a different fire damage source (as they are fairly rare), or touch a burning person, it can trigger a doused person to light as if they were hit with the ability.
master of stealth mvp
I love the arsonist. Such a fun way to try to win the game.
Ravs' stealth wasn't even from the camo index, daltos just didnt look in the corner.
When choosing a new role: "I've got it... ARSON!"
Lewis' intro for Arsonist was great
I don't know why I prefer the cabin decor to all those maps that look like warehouses. I'd still love to see Duncan and Ben's Vault Hunters base
Daltos in this episode SLAPS!
Instant classic episode innit?
Heres a role idea: Tamperer -- has the ability to falsity death readout information meaning the detective would need a specil item to be sure of the truth.
Honestly, that seems less like it should be a role and just a mechanic. You just have a gasoline can and you can douse people in gasoline, and then they go up in flames when exposed to fire. It's oddly restricted if it's role specific, but seems like using fire as a mechanic rather than an role would create new avenues for emergent gameplay.
That said, this is Gmod, so I don't know how easy it is to implement something like that as a mechanic, as opposed to just adapting a role.
I remember that time on the pastel map that Rythian was completely missed by Spiff.
"Everyone's an idiot, Duncan... I mean, Rythian"
Yep, everyone's an idiot. Even you can't remember who you're talking to, despite playing with these guys for years and years.
arsonist should definitely be a traitor role with a multi use igniter or a less obvious douse and fire that doesn't last forever
Counterpoint: the alternative to near invisible master of stealth is muscle Garfield and I think none of them want that.
Role pack idea: Close Proximity pack
Includes every role that needs to be in close proximity to other players, shadow, arsonist, informant etc
Arsonist pro strat: say they've been doused too
12:05/18:53 Bleugh!
Damn, I just realized I didn't see Daltos in ages
Wasn't there a fire extinguisher detective item a while back? Maybe that could be something that puts the arsonist's fire out if it becomes too op.
Slowly being turned into trouble in salem...
well now I just want to see a pack-a-apunched artilery
Rhythian and Ben~
10:35 10:52
Yo is this a map from the MW2 mission Loose Ends? (which is the basis for the Multiplayer map Estate)
The deadly sharp-track.
Skip the Spoiler: 00:06
I don’t know why this episode is the one where I suddenly realised how many hours I’ve spent watching TTT since they started playing it back in the day… but there you go… internal crisis is a go apparently
I wonder if you can survive the arsonist by killing the swapper? After igniting, you'd be immune to fire, and before the igniting, you technically respawn i think, so such effects might get cleared...
Master of Stealth!
i feel so cheated about that cannon. i hope they pack it in the next video
"I don't want to set the world
On fire..."
"Some DWARVES just want to watch the world burn!"
Man Duncan was such an obvious Arso in round 2. I called him out immediately just from seeing Daltos' perspective.
They should make it so the arsonist lasts for enough time to do 200 damage. So if you find a good enough method of healing you can survive
Ravs as Veteran MVP, damn.
Such a fun episode 🤭
Finally!
2:18 🤦♂️oh Daltos the self awareness on Duncan's arsonist play on you and ben, tbh could of been a jester play till both of them saw they were dousted
Man, arson looks like fun!
petition to get ravs a model of snake in a brightly colored stylish 3-piece suit
It would be interesting for traitors to have an arsonist fake item, make people think they got doused when they actually didn't, make the popup message slightly different so if they are paying attention they can figure out it's fake.
Have it say "YOU HAVE not BEEN DOUSED" I feel like I can guarantee no one would notice that the first time.
There's already a Faker role, so maybe it can buy a fake arsonist device.
But what value what a traitor have in pretending to be a (more obvious) role that'd have people want to kill them? Especially one that, message giveaway or not, still cements them as a to-be-killed role?
@@PanSpaceman Yeah it wouldn't be an ideal choice for a traitor to spend a credit on but if it was a faker or given via some other means it would sow confusion in the innocents trying to find the real arsonist and the fake one.
@@PanSpacemanI presume it would be a ranged weapon, so you can use it at a distance to make another player suspicious.
The new role is fun to watch. Maybe not when its every round. Like a 5% chance for the role in brown roles.
They need to have the new shadow, with the new arsonist role, along with the informant in the same pack.