Tawny’s eyes look red sometimes because of the contacts she’s wearing to match Jasmin Savoy Brown’s eye color. Amber contacts over green eyes can appear red in some lighting
What is important to notice is that the wilderness "make" Jackie eatable. Throwing the snow on her body and pushing the wind toward the cabin. Taissa's accident was provoked by her other self. This show is so good at puting little supernatural effect without making it fully supernatural. My theory is that it's some kind of collective hallucinations
Exactly. Fire burning under trees heavy with snow. Snow melts/falls onto body cooking said body. They’re starving. There’s nothing supernatural there at all. The feast is a way to disassociate from what they’re actually doing.
@@aaronmoyano2340 we sa the teddy bear but it could just have been the plane being so old it simply exploded, as for the birds there is multiple scientific reason they could have died. As I said in my original comments they do an amazing job at making it supernatural but also not. We might never know of something supernatural was with them or if their mind invented it to excuse/justify what they had to do. It's part of what makes this show so amazing, for now we have some answers but also behind each answer hide another question, just incredible writing
The showrunners do a fantastic job keeping the viewers guessing. Is it supernatural or is it a response to the trauma, isolation, and months of existing solely in survival mode? Lottie's visions are the only thing that seem to be clearly real, but we are seeing them from her point of view, and we know most of these characters are unreliable narrators. Are the visions supernatural, or are they a symptom of unmedicated schizophrenia? I think it does a great job of connecting the viewers to the characters, by giving us a little taste of how confused and unsure they are about everything that's happening. I am obsessed with this show and I love your reactions! Thank you both!
@@ColonelGreen Given unreliable narrators and the trauma of the crash and everything since, I still question if any of the visions are really happening to them. It certainly seems supernatural, but there could be a logical explanation for most of what's going on. I like not knowing for sure, at least for now. Some of them could be just the way the writers choose to show the inner thoughts of a person. I don't think Travis really saw a vision of Lottie when he was having sex with Natalie. I think he was envisioning it in his head, but not seeing it with his eyes. Same with Shauna "seeing" Jackie. I think she's just imagining what Jackie would say or do, how their conversations would progress, if she actually were there. I don't know these things for sure, obviously, but that's the way I'm interpreting some of it.
@@okielady73 Why would Lottie touching Travis' chest cause him to suddenly have a vision of the tree where she sacrificed the bear's heart? To cite one instance. I would say the series has moved way beyond the point where there's any plausible explanation for what we're seeing that isn't supernatural.
@@ColonelGreen That's valid. I'm not shut off from that possibility. I just don't trust that everything we're shown is reality. I'm not ready to say one way or the other yet.
i agree, especially with the latest episodes, with the adults, whenever they mention something about the wilderness, that the wilderness did this or was controlling them, its always a situation that they couldve prevented or that they themselves started in the first place. its like theyre shifting the blame onto this entity they created of the wilderness to cope with their trauma. because theyre all SO traumatised and not mentally well at all, just like how lottie has unreliable visions, the others could easily have them too (ofc lotties is due to her schizophrenia so it'll be more severe and frequent) you are definitely right that it can all just be explained by trauma, idk if you've seen the latest ep but im assuming it gets worse and they become more primal and aggressive, cant cope with their actions and therefore displace that guilt onto the wilderness making them do it. the brain is a very powerful organ and the way it can distort and repress memories to protect itself could be what the girls are experiencing
Tawny Cypress has blue eyes. They use brown contacts so she match’s her younger self. They said that it was a happy accident that the contacts make her eyes look red in some lighting.
Apparently rotisserie Jackie was made of jackfruit and rice paper, and everyone was gagging after they said cut and 2 people threw up because the idea was so gross 😮😅
I think Shauna didn't want them to take Jackie's clothes because she didn't want them to see that she had cut a chunk out of her arm....otherwise I think she wouldn't have had such an issue with it
The last scene when they’re eating Jacki and they’re shown as Greek god’s is a parallel to the old pagan myths. The blood sacrifices where a metaphor that humans were food to the gods.
Remember back in Season 1 when Van was half dead, cooking on here own funeral pyre, she said she "saw" something. Travis needed to get close to death to get answers from whatever they got away from/whatever is still in them . . . .
I don't know if I would characterize it as a "celebration" of cannibalism. the 'feast' was their way of coping with what had to be done. at this point they are so out of their minds with hunger and the smell of the cooked meat was too much to ignore, but they still didn't want to eat their friend and fellow human being so the showrunners came up with the feast as a way to visualize how the girls had to warp their minds to rationalize and legitimize the act of eating her. it's also as another person mentioned drawing parallels to Greek and Roman mythology. I also like how it hints toward supernatural but keeps you guessing.
Them being dressed Roman is supposed to represent a bacchanal, a wild and drunken occasion/feast to celebrate the god Bacchus, who was the god of a variety of things but also of insanity and ritual madness.
I think Syntell has this one. The whole thing is about trauma and its long lasting effects. Just look at their reception after they had been rescued and brought back to the airport. None of them have really been dealing with the stuff they went through and it has just persisted. I'm just hoping it doesn't turn into Lost or something like that.
@@_adrian_sean Oh yeah! I just hope that they mapped the show out from the word go, and that they don't leave a bunch of loose threads (i.e. the numbers in Lost). That being said Lost had to contend with a WGA strike, and things are seeming eerily similar right now...
@@TheDeadWax they’ve talked about how they have the overall plot mapped out so I don’t think that’ll be the issue like it was with Lost. I think the shock factor that was the end of this episode is now gone and they are gonna struggle to recreate it throughout the next few seasons
When yall were laughing joking saying Shauna was going to eat Jackie, I was like shiiiit yall joking it's bouta to go down 😂😂😂 And if I was stuck out there and it's a roasted body, I'm not dying from starvation 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
If you go back and watch the scene before the group left with Tai to find help, Lottie slick manipulated Van with that bs bone necklace and put a "bug" in her ear to seed doubt. It started to show itself in their response to the river/creek.
Idk I don't think Lottie was trying to intentionally manipulate Van back then. She's unmedicated and her schizophrenia is making her believe all these delusions are real.
“I don’t think I’ve seen a celebration of cannibalism like this.” You should watch Hannibal, the TV show. That shit fucks you up. Like, most people go ewwww on that scene, but most fannibals either don’t care, or get hungry XD. I personally feel like eating “cordero al ataúd”, which is lamb smoked in a “coffin”.
Welcome to the Snackie episode! On a more serious note, I see this show as having different levels of reading, there's the surface level of the supernatural horror show, then there's the one step deeper level of how this is all a response / collective hallucination to trauma and mental illness. Then you start thinking about how religions and folklore were born, when small communities found themselves in dire situations with no help and no scientific explanation and had to turn to the supernatural for comfort, and so humanity tries to elevate itself by rituals - you can see it here in the juxtaposition between the gross visuals of the actual cannibalism and how they see it in their heads, like an ancient bacchanal; there's the connection about those matriarchal religions of the past, so much more feral and visceral, with Lottie as the priestess for the Goddess of Fertility, Mother Earth and so on. And then you can go even deeper, because these rituals were a way to deal with the human condition, and these girls find themselves in is such a petri dish of humanity, their growing up pains brought to the extreme, and so it becomes a powerful metaphor for adolescence, especially female adolescence, the trauma and wilderness and violence of it, and how women are supposed to go back to society and live as nothing happened while stile carrying the wilderness within them. Of course we still don't know how the show's gonna end so I might be wrong but this is where I'm at right now.
So anyway I'm sorry, my English is getting good but I'm still having some trouble with more abstract talk. What I mean is, there are four levels or reading, the supernatural, the psychological, the historical and the societal. I'm really excited to keep watching the show with you guys, your reactions are genuine and funny, down-to-earth and deep at the same time. Keep going!
The feast is called a bacchanal, it's a feast of excess, bachannalia is basically a state of going to the extreme with pleasures of the flesh, be it food, wine or sexy times. In this, they basically had a collective hallucination of that state of extreme hunger just taking over. And the reason the coach could resist is cause he's an adult, he doesn't have that teenage brain still driving the hormones.
I love Elijah and so glad he joined the cast! 🎉 I’m not sure how the casting process went but he’s a big horror buff and he’s worked with Lynskey and Ricci before so he feels like a perfect fit ✨👌
A couple things - first, I really don't think there is actually anything supernatural happening at all. I think there are quite a few things that give off the appearance of being supernatural, but I think all of it can ultimately be explained by a combination of mental illness, isolation, extreme conditions (cold and particularly hunger), and trauma. Second, if I were trapped in a cabin in the woods, with no food, in the middle of winter, and dying of starvation was a genuine possibility... yes, I absolutely would eat a person. I like to think I wouldn't go so far as to outright kill someone, but a person who died of exposure or natural causes, absolutely without question. Meat is meat, calories are calories, and calories are vital to survival.
The ground was frozen, that's why they couldn't bury Jackie, but they still could have put her somewhere else. I really hate the fact that Lottie was justifying the fact that just because they were best friends doesn't make it right that she's talking to a corpse braiding her hair and putting makeup on her.
I think Callie has been having a fake id for some time. Getting into that club in NYC, she vapes like an addict, etc. I HATE her but I also appreciate the realistic writing of her. Her mom is so checked out she behaves like she is desperate for attention, and an honesty from her mom. That must have been her reality for some time before S1E1, you know? People tend to stay (emotionally) at the age they were when trauma occurred. Callie has a checked out 17 year old mom, and she herself is that age. I get the resentment, acting out, acting like she is her mom's peer, etc. It doesn't make her one bit more likable to me, but I appreciate the writing of it all. Shauna (and too a degree, Jeff) created the monster. And as time goes on (not a spoiler since you have already finished the season) she shows her willingness to partake in activities that put her freedom at risk, following her mom's lead. She is an obnoxious witch but she is a product of Shauna's bad parenting. Shauna treats her like a peer. Why on earth wouldn't she think and act like she is?
The writers have done a really awesome job walking the fine line between something “supernatural” and everything having a reasonable explanation: I think they take liberties with the film making when they shoot some of the scenes. I think you hit the nail on the head when you said you are questioning whether we can trust the narrator. I really enjoy this show though as weird and gross as it might get. Lol 😂
A lot of supernatural things are dubious. What happens out there we see as they see it: In a hostile environment when they are getting delirious from hunger. The snow falling on Jackie could have come frome the heat of the fire. Earlier when Shauna and Jeff were burning evidence the tree above caught fire. There are a lot of explanations given in the show.
Yeah, okay, she wants us to eat her. Just like she wanted you to sleep with her boyfriend she wanted you to eat her ear and she wanted you to braid her hair and she wanted you to put makeup on her and she wanted you to lie to her face every single day! Yeah, sure, okay.👌
Wouldn't the multiple fabrics of Jackie's clothes be harmful and/or difficult to consume? I would think different fabrics would burn at different temperatures. Some may have melted onto her skin. Or am I missing something?
I don’t think it’s supernatural, the writers do a great job exploring that fine line, but I think they’re eating or drinking something that is making them see things. Maybe there’s some type of mineral that’s affecting them.
Jeff did not murder Adam. And why the crazy apples and oranges mentality between Shauna and Jeff? Jeff blackmailed to keep the business and for his family. Something noble about that. More than Hanna’s transgressions.
@@feebeedoc78 Yes, weren't they referring to the movie Alive though? Unless I misheard, but I thought they mentioned that movie and how it was based off of a true event where a team's plan crashed and they had to eat each other eventually. I think they said it was also a soccer team but it wasn't, that was a male rugby team. Edit: Ya, I just rewatched this video, at 26min in he mentions the team from Alive and says it's soccer. So HA, I'm still right lol.
Commented on wrong place lost que after going to Google but.. "Technically, within the show's canon, Crystal has been there the whole time, but the character and actor weren't actually in season one." Said Google when I asked if crystal was there in season one... Cuz in the season 1 trailer there is like more than a dozen girls holding hands around the graves I remember and I couldn't place any faces except like main 7 speaking actresses.. so there was quite a few people that were like extras but the actual actress Crystal wasn't there so she was played by somebody else as an extra... Probably an actor who makes less money and less auditions and real life I guess I have no idea. It is kind of messed up because its Showtime so they should have prepared better if they wanted to introduce new people in the next season they should have got higher paid actor extras or whatever because they had to have had a big enough budget unless it all went to the adult actors... And how often is a premium channel only have one season they had to have known it would be renewed just because of the originality of it and it's Showtime so they can show all the triggered shit and don't shit gore and whatnot.
Regarding the "supernatural" stuff discussed at the end of vid. I think the show is taking creative license and being gratuitous with character POVs and coincidental timing trying to convince the audience that the supernatural is involved. If it were more subtle it would be effective but they're perhaps trying TOO hard... its one of the worst flaws of this season. They told us this is a female Lord of the Flies - that's not a supernatural story. Its about psychological trauma and the dark side of groupthink and that's more than enough.
They never actually said this was a female Lord of the Flies, they just said that's where the idea came from..even if they do confirm it as supernatural (which I dont think they will, they seem to want to keep it ambiguous) that doesnt cancel out any of the exploration of trauma, supernatural tropes have been used as metaphors for a long time, they're also dealing with spirituality/religion and why people hold onto these things....I also think it's weird how people are surprised that the supernatural elements have been ramped up, when it's the only thing that makes sense from a narrative perspective in order to get to that first scene in the pilot, even if you dont believe it, THEY have to
Is it just me or was the woman at Sammy’s school unnecessarily bitchy? To say “we’re not a boarding school” would really only be appropriate if they let him sit around 18:07 there after school all the time. That said: I was really looking forward to you guys’ reaction to this specific episode & you didn’t disappoint. 😃
Tawny’s eyes look red sometimes because of the contacts she’s wearing to match Jasmin Savoy Brown’s eye color. Amber contacts over green eyes can appear red in some lighting
Ok, that explains the creepy eye situation. Thank you.
What is important to notice is that the wilderness "make" Jackie eatable. Throwing the snow on her body and pushing the wind toward the cabin. Taissa's accident was provoked by her other self. This show is so good at puting little supernatural effect without making it fully supernatural. My theory is that it's some kind of collective hallucinations
Exactly. Fire burning under trees heavy with snow. Snow melts/falls onto body cooking said body. They’re starving. There’s nothing supernatural there at all. The feast is a way to disassociate from what they’re actually doing.
Nah it is supernatural, otherwise explain laura lee's teddy bear literally burning or the birds falling at the cabin.
@@aaronmoyano2340 we sa the teddy bear but it could just have been the plane being so old it simply exploded, as for the birds there is multiple scientific reason they could have died. As I said in my original comments they do an amazing job at making it supernatural but also not. We might never know of something supernatural was with them or if their mind invented it to excuse/justify what they had to do. It's part of what makes this show so amazing, for now we have some answers but also behind each answer hide another question, just incredible writing
@@maryshaw6419 Alright, now explain the spirit- if we can call him like that of the hunter Jackie saw when she was in-between life and death.
The showrunners do a fantastic job keeping the viewers guessing. Is it supernatural or is it a response to the trauma, isolation, and months of existing solely in survival mode? Lottie's visions are the only thing that seem to be clearly real, but we are seeing them from her point of view, and we know most of these characters are unreliable narrators. Are the visions supernatural, or are they a symptom of unmedicated schizophrenia? I think it does a great job of connecting the viewers to the characters, by giving us a little taste of how confused and unsure they are about everything that's happening. I am obsessed with this show and I love your reactions! Thank you both!
When they get to the point where Lottie's touch is giving other people visions, it's hard to come up with a 'real' explanation for that.
@@ColonelGreen Given unreliable narrators and the trauma of the crash and everything since, I still question if any of the visions are really happening to them. It certainly seems supernatural, but there could be a logical explanation for most of what's going on. I like not knowing for sure, at least for now.
Some of them could be just the way the writers choose to show the inner thoughts of a person. I don't think Travis really saw a vision of Lottie when he was having sex with Natalie. I think he was envisioning it in his head, but not seeing it with his eyes. Same with Shauna "seeing" Jackie. I think she's just imagining what Jackie would say or do, how their conversations would progress, if she actually were there. I don't know these things for sure, obviously, but that's the way I'm interpreting some of it.
@@okielady73 Why would Lottie touching Travis' chest cause him to suddenly have a vision of the tree where she sacrificed the bear's heart? To cite one instance.
I would say the series has moved way beyond the point where there's any plausible explanation for what we're seeing that isn't supernatural.
@@ColonelGreen That's valid. I'm not shut off from that possibility. I just don't trust that everything we're shown is reality. I'm not ready to say one way or the other yet.
i agree, especially with the latest episodes, with the adults, whenever they mention something about the wilderness, that the wilderness did this or was controlling them, its always a situation that they couldve prevented or that they themselves started in the first place. its like theyre shifting the blame onto this entity they created of the wilderness to cope with their trauma. because theyre all SO traumatised and not mentally well at all, just like how lottie has unreliable visions, the others could easily have them too (ofc lotties is due to her schizophrenia so it'll be more severe and frequent)
you are definitely right that it can all just be explained by trauma, idk if you've seen the latest ep but im assuming it gets worse and they become more primal and aggressive, cant cope with their actions and therefore displace that guilt onto the wilderness making them do it. the brain is a very powerful organ and the way it can distort and repress memories to protect itself could be what the girls are experiencing
Tawny Cypress has blue eyes. They use brown contacts so she match’s her younger self. They said that it was a happy accident that the contacts make her eyes look red in some lighting.
Damn as if she wasn't gorgeous already.
Apparently rotisserie Jackie was made of jackfruit and rice paper, and everyone was gagging after they said cut and 2 people threw up because the idea was so gross 😮😅
WOW, that's hilarious as it is gross.
I'd have been a part of #teamvomit
@@Syntell the girl who plays Baby Misty vomited. She said it looked too much like the girl who plays Jackie
They don’t really have the actual texts, just records of times and who texted who.
I love Snootyvegan's realness in her reactions.
"Her mother and father murdered Adam"
Lol, right? Callie is terrified.
Jeff didn’t murder anyone. He didn’t even know about Adam’s existence until after he was already dead. Granted Callie doesn’t know that but still
@Mariah Jo she doesn't really know all the facts at this episode and we're getting into spoiler territory.
I think Shauna didn't want them to take Jackie's clothes because she didn't want them to see that she had cut a chunk out of her arm....otherwise I think she wouldn't have had such an issue with it
Very good point. Can't leave the nibble marks behind 😂🤣
The last scene when they’re eating Jacki and they’re shown as Greek god’s is a parallel to the old pagan myths. The blood sacrifices where a metaphor that humans were food to the gods.
Yay! Two episodes in two days. It’ll be so much fun to watch the rest of season two with yall.
Thank you so much for being patient with us.
Remember back in Season 1 when Van was half dead, cooking on here own funeral pyre, she said she "saw" something. Travis needed to get close to death to get answers from whatever they got away from/whatever is still in them . . . .
I don't know if I would characterize it as a "celebration" of cannibalism. the 'feast' was their way of coping with what had to be done. at this point they are so out of their minds with hunger and the smell of the cooked meat was too much to ignore, but they still didn't want to eat their friend and fellow human being so the showrunners came up with the feast as a way to visualize how the girls had to warp their minds to rationalize and legitimize the act of eating her. it's also as another person mentioned drawing parallels to Greek and Roman mythology. I also like how it hints toward supernatural but keeps you guessing.
Them being dressed Roman is supposed to represent a bacchanal, a wild and drunken occasion/feast to celebrate the god Bacchus, who was the god of a variety of things but also of insanity and ritual madness.
I'm just here for the "Vitamin E" lol another great review guys!
I think they are all hallucinating from hunger and stress.
I definitely would have participated in the feast especially if I had been out there for months without any food
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Oh - y'all are being too good to us with this drop rate.
right lol i was not expecting it at all
All thanks to our incredible editor. More to come very soon. We're trying to catch up.
I think Syntell has this one. The whole thing is about trauma and its long lasting effects. Just look at their reception after they had been rescued and brought back to the airport. None of them have really been dealing with the stuff they went through and it has just persisted. I'm just hoping it doesn't turn into Lost or something like that.
I'm loving the idea of the mystery box of trauma. Thank you for the comment.
The show writers have said over and over again they love Lost. If half the cast disappears or this all turns out to be a dream I'm gonna scream
@@_adrian_sean Oh yeah! I just hope that they mapped the show out from the word go, and that they don't leave a bunch of loose threads (i.e. the numbers in Lost). That being said Lost had to contend with a WGA strike, and things are seeming eerily similar right now...
@@TheDeadWax they’ve talked about how they have the overall plot mapped out so I don’t think that’ll be the issue like it was with Lost. I think the shock factor that was the end of this episode is now gone and they are gonna struggle to recreate it throughout the next few seasons
When yall were laughing joking saying Shauna was going to eat Jackie, I was like shiiiit yall joking it's bouta to go down 😂😂😂
And if I was stuck out there and it's a roasted body, I'm not dying from starvation 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
It is too cold to bury her...The ground is frozen!!
What with that killer scene at the end, this tends to be overlooked but Sophie Nelisse did such a briliant job in this episode
If you go back and watch the scene before the group left with Tai to find help, Lottie slick manipulated Van with that bs bone necklace and put a "bug" in her ear to seed doubt. It started to show itself in their response to the river/creek.
Idk I don't think Lottie was trying to intentionally manipulate Van back then. She's unmedicated and her schizophrenia is making her believe all these delusions are real.
Love your discussions at the end of each episode!!!
“I don’t think I’ve seen a celebration of cannibalism like this.” You should watch Hannibal, the TV show. That shit fucks you up. Like, most people go ewwww on that scene, but most fannibals either don’t care, or get hungry XD. I personally feel like eating “cordero al ataúd”, which is lamb smoked in a “coffin”.
Welcome to the Snackie episode!
On a more serious note, I see this show as having different levels of reading, there's the surface level of the supernatural horror show, then there's the one step deeper level of how this is all a response / collective hallucination to trauma and mental illness.
Then you start thinking about how religions and folklore were born, when small communities found themselves in dire situations with no help and no scientific explanation and had to turn to the supernatural for comfort, and so humanity tries to elevate itself by rituals - you can see it here in the juxtaposition between the gross visuals of the actual cannibalism and how they see it in their heads, like an ancient bacchanal; there's the connection about those matriarchal religions of the past, so much more feral and visceral, with Lottie as the priestess for the Goddess of Fertility, Mother Earth and so on.
And then you can go even deeper, because these rituals were a way to deal with the human condition, and these girls find themselves in is such a petri dish of humanity, their growing up pains brought to the extreme, and so it becomes a powerful metaphor for adolescence, especially female adolescence, the trauma and wilderness and violence of it, and how women are supposed to go back to society and live as nothing happened while stile carrying the wilderness within them.
Of course we still don't know how the show's gonna end so I might be wrong but this is where I'm at right now.
So anyway I'm sorry, my English is getting good but I'm still having some trouble with more abstract talk. What I mean is, there are four levels or reading, the supernatural, the psychological, the historical and the societal.
I'm really excited to keep watching the show with you guys, your reactions are genuine and funny, down-to-earth and deep at the same time. Keep going!
This episode was hard to watch been waiting to see your reaction to this
It did not disappoint
I been waiting for y'all to get to this one. I knew y'all would be GAGGED 😅😅😅
I'm still over here breathing in and out of this paper bag. 😲
@@Syntell R.I.P. Snackie 😋⚰️🥀🍖
The feast is called a bacchanal, it's a feast of excess, bachannalia is basically a state of going to the extreme with pleasures of the flesh, be it food, wine or sexy times. In this, they basically had a collective hallucination of that state of extreme hunger just taking over. And the reason the coach could resist is cause he's an adult, he doesn't have that teenage brain still driving the hormones.
Her eyes are naturally light green
I love Elijah and so glad he joined the cast! 🎉 I’m not sure how the casting process went but he’s a big horror buff and he’s worked with Lynskey and Ricci before so he feels like a perfect fit ✨👌
A couple things - first, I really don't think there is actually anything supernatural happening at all. I think there are quite a few things that give off the appearance of being supernatural, but I think all of it can ultimately be explained by a combination of mental illness, isolation, extreme conditions (cold and particularly hunger), and trauma.
Second, if I were trapped in a cabin in the woods, with no food, in the middle of winter, and dying of starvation was a genuine possibility... yes, I absolutely would eat a person. I like to think I wouldn't go so far as to outright kill someone, but a person who died of exposure or natural causes, absolutely without question. Meat is meat, calories are calories, and calories are vital to survival.
You are NOT invited to the BBQ. 🤣😂
I kid, I kid.
This episide is sitll my favorite. They did not hold back lmao.
This show has everything. Every. Thing.
The ground was frozen, that's why they couldn't bury Jackie, but they still could have put her somewhere else. I really hate the fact that Lottie was justifying the fact that just because they were best friends doesn't make it right that she's talking to a corpse braiding her hair and putting makeup on her.
She's doing WAAAAAAAY too much
God forbid a pregnant girl has a hobby
I think Callie has been having a fake id for some time. Getting into that club in NYC, she vapes like an addict, etc. I HATE her but I also appreciate the realistic writing of her. Her mom is so checked out she behaves like she is desperate for attention, and an honesty from her mom. That must have been her reality for some time before S1E1, you know?
People tend to stay (emotionally) at the age they were when trauma occurred. Callie has a checked out 17 year old mom, and she herself is that age. I get the resentment, acting out, acting like she is her mom's peer, etc. It doesn't make her one bit more likable to me, but I appreciate the writing of it all. Shauna (and too a degree, Jeff) created the monster. And as time goes on (not a spoiler since you have already finished the season) she shows her willingness to partake in activities that put her freedom at risk, following her mom's lead. She is an obnoxious witch but she is a product of Shauna's bad parenting. Shauna treats her like a peer. Why on earth wouldn't she think and act like she is?
We all know the Coach will die but still it's terrifying to think how it will happen
When it does happen, it's going to be SUPER-UGLY.
Poor guy is going to have these kids fighting over his stump.
I really want them to throw a twist at us by having Coach make it all the way to the end and gets rescued.
The writers have done a really awesome job walking the fine line between something “supernatural” and everything having a reasonable explanation: I think they take liberties with the film making when they shoot some of the scenes. I think you hit the nail on the head when you said you are questioning whether we can trust the narrator. I really enjoy this show though as weird and gross as it might get. Lol 😂
A lot of supernatural things are dubious. What happens out there we see as they see it: In a hostile environment when they are getting delirious from hunger. The snow falling on Jackie could have come frome the heat of the fire. Earlier when Shauna and Jeff were burning evidence the tree above caught fire. There are a lot of explanations given in the show.
I heard that Adult Taissa wears colored contact lenses for her role and something about the camera light makes her eyes look red.
Yeah, okay, she wants us to eat her. Just like she wanted you to sleep with her boyfriend she wanted you to eat her ear and she wanted you to braid her hair and she wanted you to put makeup on her and she wanted you to lie to her face every single day! Yeah, sure, okay.👌
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LMAOOOOOOOOOOO did you not hear what Lottie and Shauna heard? Cuz they said they heard it
OOOOOOOOOO I've been waiting for this one. This the one lmao
It didn't disappoint
Wouldn't the multiple fabrics of Jackie's clothes be harmful and/or difficult to consume? I would think different fabrics would burn at different temperatures. Some may have melted onto her skin. Or am I missing something?
A lil gristle... they just spit out and kept it movin.
😂🤣🤢🤮
I don’t think it’s supernatural, the writers do a great job exploring that fine line, but I think they’re eating or drinking something that is making them see things. Maybe there’s some type of mineral that’s affecting them.
What about Taissa's sleepwalking and sleep sacrificing though?
@@nne5602 I just think it’s some trauma response or way to cope with the trauma
I never considered that. Great comment.
Jeff did not murder Adam. And why the crazy apples and oranges mentality between Shauna and Jeff? Jeff blackmailed to keep the business and for his family. Something noble about that. More than Hanna’s transgressions.
It was a rugby team, not a soccer one.
You’re thinking of ‘Alive’ which was about a South American rugby team. These girls are definitely soccer players.
@@feebeedoc78 Yes, weren't they referring to the movie Alive though? Unless I misheard, but I thought they mentioned that movie and how it was based off of a true event where a team's plan crashed and they had to eat each other eventually. I think they said it was also a soccer team but it wasn't, that was a male rugby team.
Edit: Ya, I just rewatched this video, at 26min in he mentions the team from Alive and says it's soccer. So HA, I'm still right lol.
Thank you for that correction.
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No worries, I guess I missed that part so yeah you’re right.
Commented on wrong place lost que after going to Google but..
"Technically, within the show's canon, Crystal has been there the whole time, but the character and actor weren't actually in season one."
Said Google when I asked if crystal was there in season one... Cuz in the season 1 trailer there is like more than a dozen girls holding hands around the graves I remember and I couldn't place any faces except like main 7 speaking actresses.. so there was quite a few people that were like extras but the actual actress Crystal wasn't there so she was played by somebody else as an extra... Probably an actor who makes less money and less auditions and real life I guess I have no idea.
It is kind of messed up because its Showtime so they should have prepared better if they wanted to introduce new people in the next season they should have got higher paid actor extras or whatever because they had to have had a big enough budget unless it all went to the adult actors... And how often is a premium channel only have one season they had to have known it would be renewed just because of the originality of it and it's Showtime so they can show all the triggered shit and don't shit gore and whatnot.
Vitamin E 😄
Regarding the "supernatural" stuff discussed at the end of vid. I think the show is taking creative license and being gratuitous with character POVs and coincidental timing trying to convince the audience that the supernatural is involved. If it were more subtle it would be effective but they're perhaps trying TOO hard... its one of the worst flaws of this season. They told us this is a female Lord of the Flies - that's not a supernatural story. Its about psychological trauma and the dark side of groupthink and that's more than enough.
They never actually said this was a female Lord of the Flies, they just said that's where the idea came from..even if they do confirm it as supernatural (which I dont think they will, they seem to want to keep it ambiguous) that doesnt cancel out any of the exploration of trauma, supernatural tropes have been used as metaphors for a long time, they're also dealing with spirituality/religion and why people hold onto these things....I also think it's weird how people are surprised that the supernatural elements have been ramped up, when it's the only thing that makes sense from a narrative perspective in order to get to that first scene in the pilot, even if you dont believe it, THEY have to
There are supernatural interpretations of Lord of the Flies, though....it's literally in the title lmao 😂
I’m kind of confused why you guys don’t like the supernatural stuff so much. Mind explaining?
Is it just me or was the woman at Sammy’s school unnecessarily bitchy? To say “we’re not a boarding school” would really only be appropriate if they let him sit around 18:07 there after school all the time. That said: I was really looking forward to you guys’ reaction to this specific episode & you didn’t disappoint. 😃
School office ladies in my experience are almost always unnecessarily bi tchy 😂
Rugby team
Syntell, ur my new homie, i luv ya, but get a notebook n pencil and take notes!
Hey man, you're catching us live and uncut 🤣😂
frfr, thank you for watching.
I think they are all hallucinating from hunger and stress.