All American Triple Loop Review | The Painfully Rough New for 2024 Coaster at Indiana Beach
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 มิ.ย. 2024
- New for 2024 is a massive Schwarzkopf multi looper relocated from Mexico City after a horrible accident. The ride was refurbished and given new trains, opening 3 years later than planned. Despite Indiana Beach's best efforts, the ride is still not in great shape, and that became very apparent very fast. Let's dive into the problems with All American Triple Loop and what would make it better.
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its almost comical that this coaster had an infamous deadly accident on it, and then when choosing new trains for it of course they decided to take them from mindbender, which ALSO had one of the most infamous deadly coaster accidents of all time
This ain't the Circle of Life, its the Circle of DEATH lol
Who wants to ride the coaster with the remnants of death? It should not be a thing .
I guess Double Death Triple Loop would have been a slightly insensitive name
Both of them similarly derailed as well. What a coincidence!
this is an L comment. . . the Mindbender trains used now are not even close to those in the accident. . They are all now lead cars. . . The overhead restraints are a result of this as well and the main complaint. . .
This makes me so sad because I want nothing more than to see Indiana Beach prosper. I’m always rooting for smaller parks
100% agree. I was so optimistic for this ride and love supporting places like Indiana Beach. I even attended the grand reopening day after we all thought it was closing down! So it's a real bummer the ride isn't what we hoped
Isn't there a chance after retracking the ride will still be better
@@davegriffin5988 sure.
The fact that they made a Schwarzkopf rough is outstanding...
Indiana Beach didn't do that, it was standing all day in the scorching hot mexico sun, with the track and supports being under more stress due to the ride being ran faster than normal, for years. That's gonna take a toll on any ride. Similar thing happened to Thriller/Texas Tornado when it ran in Six Flags decades ago.
Looks like they are going to need to give it a thorough retrack during the off-season if they don't plan too make it a one year wonder. Why didn't they test it with vibration dummies before opening it up to the public?
They also need new trains with vests. Costume trains but it would be a big upgrade
I rode Thriller the week it opened in 1986 and a strange feeling in my neck for a week. Not all Schwarzkopf rides are smooth or "healthy" - they were always part of an aggressive fair circuit market that was prone to an unhealthy logic of "outbidding". Look at today's flat rides- they seem like pure "torture" to me.
But the original triple loop was kind of a sweet spot - super thrilling and thoroughly enjoyable. Too bad they could not rescue it!
@@-E42- I rode Dreier Loop in its opening year in 1984 (Oktoberfest) and Thriller in 86 (Cranger Kirmes). Dreier was totall smooth with only a lapbar. The first drop was AMAZING!
Thriller was a real beast though! I came off it and thought I had just been recruited for a NASA training program.
In it´s first year they had just a lap-bar and a leather strip (like you sometimes find on Dodgem cars). But the ride attendents didn´t even advise you to wear it.
The real problem with Thriller was the final loop, which was some strange loop/corkscrew hybrid. Your body would just SLAM sideways. They reprofiled this several times and then retrofitted those nasty accordeon restraints.
I really think they should try to get therir hands on a regular Schwarzkopf train with shared axels.
These coasters are designed to run 5-7 car trains and not those 3-front-car-trains. They have totally different dynamics!
I would usually say: get rid of the shoulder bars, but seeing the footage here, I guess it would be quite dangerous if there was just a lapbar.
What a mess!
Gerstlauer is actively involved in patching up Olympia Looping (Magnetic brakes, new ride software and PLC etc.), Alpina Bahn (New Trains, new set of brakes, new PLC and more) and Hollenblitz (Currently being worked on by Gerstlauer since it has been shut down by the safety regulator for reasons unknown). Why didn't they go with that option?
Höllenblitz is already standing on the terrain of Crange/Herne, it's being built up and part of the track is already installed.
They also refurbished Psyke Underground at Walibi Belgium. And it got a new gerstlauer train with just lapbars.
@@0z3r0That was Premier Rides actually
@@patrickstrahm05 Pretty sure it was Gerstlauer
Because Gerstlauer is expensive and Indiana Beach is broke.
So they took one coaster that killed people, and decided to "upgrade" it with trains from a ride that also killed people?!
Basically, but theres one problem. Mindbender had different trains at the time of its accident, and changed trains shortly after, and All American Triple Loop's trains were Mindbenders redesigned trains, the original Mindbender trains had 4 cars (the very last one was reversed) but after the accident in 86, it had 3 cars with a redesign, and those are the same trains in Indiana Beach today. Kinda weirded out though..
I'm surprised that they didn't contact Gerstlauer to make new trains for them. They have build trains for Sooperdooperlooper, but I imagine it would be more challenging to construct because All American Triple Loop is more intense.
I love sooperdooperlooper's trains
@@rct2nerd again IB does not have endless cash!
No I dont think so. They also made trains for Alpina Bahn, those has no Loopings but it is nearly the same size
They probably don’t have the money
I'm from Chicago and I drove 2 1/2 hours to get here for nothing. Well, actually, I got a neck pain from this restraints. Taylor and Sarah, thank you for riding coasters for us so we don't have to experience the pain.
I rode this ride back in the early 2000's when it was Magnum Force at Flamingo Land here in the UK
How was it??
Me too but maybe a few years before, don’t recall much about it, don’t remember it being particularly rough, was rubbish compared to nemesis was my only memory and we much preferred the boomerang they had. Wasn’t a coaster enthusiast back then just a kid
This was in a similar era to peak lightwater valley and we’d not realise we were marathoning the ultimate, which was a fun and we had no idea how unique it was
Second drop into the Forest was good
That all front cars train is fuckin cursed man
It sounds like of the things you mentioned, getting rid of the shoulder restraints should be the first thing they try. It seems like it would be the easiest modification to make and even if it remains rough on the track, that would solve a good amount of the discomfort, but I haven't ridden it, so I can't say that with certainty
Any Schwarzkopf train with lap bars is much better than a train with restraints. Triple Loop did not need the restraints, especially now that train speed is properly controlled.
oopps should have saved mindbender instead.....
Yeah well small Problem is. The Mall was built ontop of the Rollercoaster so they couldn't get it out.
Atleast Mindbender, although with a mid reputation, had a smoother and funner ride experience than AATL. I believe people would've loved Mindbender to be salvaged more than whatever that coaster is.
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This might be the first time I've ever seen a new roller coaster open up at a park not too far from me and yet I have ZERO interest in riding it thanks to the honest opinions from you and everyone else who was with you during your Indiana Beach trip. I hope they fix it somehow! =(
What sorcery is this...?
You need the credit sir.
I rode it once to say I did it. Also, the allure of it's deadly past was very adrenaline pumping
same here. I'll be in the area in a couple weeks, but I now have no interest at all in riding this. I will gladly not get that coaster credit, and I have never said that before. I'm always up for at least one ride to get the credit, but not with this one. The rest of the park is awesome though.
i was at indiana beach for a day and an employee said they didnt open triple until noon-ish, so as soon as noon hit my sister and i went over to triple loop, like two people were in line. we just missed the first rotation so we waited in line. after only one go, the ride ops closed the coaster because of technical issues and said it would probably be about 20 min. we checked back every 30 ish min and the ride was closed literally all day :^
I appreciate your honesty. I'm so used to Schwarzkopf's Shockwave being so smooth that yesterday I didn't hold myself tense during the midride section and bumped my head on the left side of the Silver Bullet car. That ride is only rough in one spot, so you forget about it until you hit it. I'll definitely be cautious of All American Triple Loop if I ever go to Indiana Beach.
I lived in Alberta and rode Mindbender many times... the operations there were horrendous mostly because of how much time and brute force effort it took to prepare the restraints. Operators rightfully became tired having to wrestle them all day so they moved very slowly. Before it closed they'd be lucky to get 10 trains out in an hour.
The restraints are over-designed because of Mindbender's accident in the 1980's. Those are not the original trains - in order to reassure the public new trains were provided with those triple restraints which included the addition of those horrible shoulder restraints. You'll also notice that the trains have double redundant wheel assemblies (each car has 4 sets by itself). This was done because the accident was caused by a wheel assembly falling off (which seems to be a common thing with Schwarzkopf). This made the cars longer and heavier, so the trains were reduced by one car to accommodate the changes.
Oh that's why the train consists of 3 front cars...
it's strange to me the added those redundant restraints since the accident had nothing to do with a restraint failure
@@jumpydashgd4699 Someone else said those were added so people couldn't raise their hands due to the sign they installed in the middle of one of the loops. So basically it's not needed at all, the manufacturer didn't add it.
Adding to that statement, Mindbender's last car pre accident in 86 was reversed so riders can have a more challenged experience, they honestly should've somehow got Mindbender out instead of AATL.
I really hope they can fix the restraints - I've never seen reception for a new coaster as bad as this!
Fun fact from a native German: dreier looping can also be translated to threesome loop👍
A threesome on a loop might be hard to do
Ayo?? 💀💀💀
I actually loved this ride personally. I should add that this was my first Schwarzkopf ride
Great video. Thanks for posting this. Have a nice day.
Three rides is impressive! :)
I lasted two rides and one would have been enough. The super loud lift motor flagged that it would be a unique experience lol.
This is a coaster, that when looking at it, should be a top 3 coaster in the park that it's at. Then you ride it, and you realize it's the roughest ride in the park...
I was there the day before you were. Row 2, Car 1. My jaw was sore for a week from banging against those over the shoulder restraints. My son has sworn he will never ride it again. I might try it in the front row, if I make it back to Monticello.
Don't ride it again. I was in front row front car and experienced debilitating neck pain. Granted I'm the type that love any and all coasters. I usually like to go around hands up and enjoying the ride. I have never hated a rollercoaster before.
@@user-jl9lb7hl3g It's so sad that this ride is a failure in its current form. I have been greatly anticipating getting on this ride for 4 years, and now, I have no interest in riding it even once for the credit.
I have a feeling they'll fix this ride.
They just gotta re-track some of the rough points and give the restraints more padding.
Rode this several times when it was at Flamingo Land in the UK and really quite enjoyed it.
As someone who missed his chance to ride it when it was still in the UK, I'm genuinely crushed to hear that it came out this badly. Hopefully they can fix it, though!
Speaking of roughness, I recently was at sea world Orlando and all mako, kraken, and manta had a significantly worse rattle than I remember, and I noticed the wheels were completely worn out and it was riding bare metal from the wheels to the track, do you think this had anything to do with it?
The trauns were uncomfortable on Mindbender and thos ride is more compact, got relocated a bunch, and had an accident. I didn't expect it to be this bad but it makes sense.
Both times I rode it back in La Feria in Mexico City it was pretty rough but tbh it was very enjoyable and SUPER intense, even though they didn't give the ride the mantainance it needed...
Rode it the second week it was open, only got 1 ride on Saturday before it broke down for the rest of the weekend. My jaw was hurting when I walked off, such a painful experience. Hope they can do something to make it run better because its an awesome coaster, just runs extremely rough
I have thoroughly enjoyed Indiana Beach both times I've visited, and I was very much hoping that this ride would be a success. It's so sad to see that it hasn't been. I hope it can be made more tolerable. Having ridden Frontier City's Silver Bullet so many times, I can say that there is a violent lateral jolt leading into the loop, but because we only have seatbelts & lap bars, it's no problem at all. Head/neck banging restraints can totally ruin some rides.
After the reports of Triple Loop, I honestly don't want to ride it, not even once for the credit. Even hearing the advice of how to ride it, I don't trust that it won't still cause me problems. I was planning to ride it in a couple weeks, but I now probably won't.
this would be a perfect ride for a coaster parody
Honestly I think the train might be the issue, not because of the wheel assembly but the train assembly. The old traditional Schwarzkopf trains had the trailing cars hanging off the car preceeding it. That meant the wheels were spaced far apar and allows the cars to twist greatly without issue. Whereas the frankensteined mindbender trains feature several sets of axles close together. And that means the trains might not be able to take the snappy transitions, especially the sharply curved drops very well. Its not like these transitions are unique to Mindbender, lots of other Schwarzkopfs have them whether it be Olympia Looping, Alpina Bahn, Jetline (rip), and Thriller/Zonga (also rip). Plus Ive heard others mention that it was still smoother while in Mexico than at Indiana Beach. So it cant be the trackprofiling.
On Mindbender the trains handling of the transitions may not have been an issue since that ride is larger and as such each element is more drawn out, but Triple loop by comparison is much more compact. So I think it might be putting excessive forces onto some of the wheel bogies, which get yanked into the rest of the vehicles. Might also be why the front seats of each are are smoother, since the rear seats are closer to the wheel bogies.
I think there are 3 possible solutions for this.
1. Order new trains with the conventional setup, Gerstlauer would likely be willing to do so.
2. Extend the distance between each car in the train by extending the coupler. That way the wheels are spaced further apart, but it might cause additionals stress on said coupler.
3. Modify the trains restraints, namely the over the shoulder accordion so that the rough moments arent handled as badly.
I rode it as Magnum Force, Quimera and West Edmonton Mindbender. I rode Mindbender over 30 in Edmonton within a 2 day period. Quimera had the five point soft harnesses and lap bars. I literally rode Quimera 20 times in a row. It was really fantastic! That’s very disappointing to hear. But, I trust your judgment on coasters. And I trust your reviews based off your experience. And you reviews on coasters are very spot on. At least I rode it when it was good.
it’s ironic that a coaster named *All American* Triple Loop has had its track be in 3 other countries and its trains come from Canada.
Indiana Beach is a bucket list park for me. I really hope to get there one day. I was excited that they were putting in a Schwarzkopf coaster. However, I didn't realize it had the accordion restraints. I have only one experience with those and it was on Astroworld's Texas Tornado (currently completely defunct, I think, after being moved around a couple of times after Astroworld's closure). I rode it twice and both times those accordion restraints snapped further down due to the extreme positive G's in the first two loops and I spent the rest of the ride compressed into a very uncomfortable position with the restraints biting into my shoulders. The second time I was even riding defensively trying to prevent it from happening and it still happened, then we spent 20 minutes on the brake run in 100+ degree temps with Houston's humidity waiting for something that was going on with the train in the station. It was agonizing and I almost passed out from the heat and pain. I vowed to never ride a coaster with those restraints again, and if I ever do make it to Indiana Beach, All American Triple Loop will be a hard pass for me unless they've removed those accordion OTSRs.
Still want the credit though, but im not really itching to get back to Indiana Beach. But ive had a season pass the last four years and I'm in no rush. The park has had problems getting this coster open the last 3 years.
Sounds like you earned your paycheck this session! Thanks for serving as test subjects, so we know to prioritize our (in my case-extremely limited) disposable income elsewhere!
At the very least, the Triple Loop isn't beyond redemption, and I hope that Indiana Beach puts in the proper TLC.
And if any coaster would ever benefit from shoulder straps over those huge chunks of plastic that they expect riders to wear over their shoulders, the Triple Loop would be it.
It would be a pity if it doesn't receive the treatment it needs to live up to its full potential, especially now that Mindbender has since been now Mind-endered.
I just rode it today 7/4, I rode it one in the front row. I didn’t think it was that rough.
However…. The boarding process is HORRIBLE! From the snail slow ops to not being able to choose the row you want.
As for the restraints,The stupid drop down harness thing NEEDS to go, that would help improve the ride so much.
It looks good when you see it. I rode it (same model)@ Six Flags Astroworld in Houston Tx..There called Taz tx tornado.I rode it in my early 20s and it beat me up..Man as I was walking across the street from my motel it looked amazing but it was a one timer. .
Would be cool to hear your opinion on "Nessie Superrollercoaster" at Germany's Hansa Park. It's a 1980 custom Schwarzkopf Looper that was Germany's first stationary coaster with a vertical loop.
They recently refurbished it and gave it a new station, but the trains and track are original.
I feel like the old guy who says, " when I was a kid", but here goes it! When I was younger and riding what remained of the golden age of coasters in the seventies and a bit into the eighties, coasters were rough. It was the thrill. You weren't on a kids ride. It was the roller coaster! I get the over shoulder harness thing, but the comment on here about Hercules being the roughest ever makes me realize that through attrition, coaster riders have been spoiled and don't realize the "sport" of riding any more! If it isn't buttery smooth, folks hate it! Times have changed indeed, but a little pain is the medal you earn for going on the big kids rides! Lol. But when I see reviews on rides like thunder hawk at dorney being extremely rough, I think about it before the trim brakes were added. Not hating on anybody, but expectations have really changed!
Your comment makes me feel old as well. Because i share a bit of these sentiments. When i was young, most of the bigger rollercoasters in the area where i live (the netherlands) , where vekoma's. I never experienced any aches or pains on those rides. Never. They where a bit shakey sometimes, but not in a very brutal way.
You should make an enthusiasts survival guide on this!!
I laughed so loud at the rain rollback. 😳 that was hilarious
My daughters went to Indiana Beach last week and they were so excited to ride this. They hated it and said it was really painful. None of them want to go on it again when they go back this weekend.
Im not surprised its rough. Its been relocated so many times. That takes a toll on the track. Its been over ran and over sped by the previous owners who also did little to no maintenance on it. Im all for not getting rid of historic or old coasters. But i believe its time for triple loop to be scrapped. Unfortunately it just wasnt taken care of in tbe past well enough for it to be refurbished properly. Especially not from a park that can afford such an expensive overhaul it needs
I went to Indiana Beach for the first time last year, hoping that Triple Loop would be open. Now I don't mind as much that I missed it; still need to get back there someday to ride Lost Coaster though...I hope they can do something to fix Triple Loop and still get some good out of the investment, too bad to see this happen.
It’s so tough, because it’s a wonderful ride aside from the restraints/two moments of neck smacking. Everyone says that without the shoulder restraints, riders would smack heads with one another, but I don’t think that’s the case. It was a well regarded ride in Mexico, operating only with lap bars.
i swear when it was in mexico it had something that went over your shoulders. I remember hearing about it on some video on the ride
From my limited experience, Mexicans are not as well primed for glass smooth operation of any tracked ride as those from places like the USA.
@@FunTownUS quick glancing at a photo of the trains, you’re right. It had some sort of softer shoulder straps, I’m not sure whether plastic or fabric, but they were not bulky or at neck height.
man i thought this would be better i might wanna go next year
To be fair, the ride is 40 years old: Started out on the German Fair Circuit (84-96), then moved to Sunway Lagoon in Malaysia (97-99), Flamingo Land in England (00-05), La Fiera Chapultepec de Magico in Mexico City (07-19), than sat idle for nearly 5 years. All those times being taken apart/put back together/being transported take a toll on the track. Plus it's using the old trains from Galaxyland's Mindbender.
edit: I just like the shot at 0:30 showing houses in the background
Sp funny that both coasters from mexico (this one and the wild mouse) have a lot of problems. The wild mous is now located in the nerherlands and had a 2 years delayed opening.
This is (was) a traveling coaster. The sections are bolted together and not welded. of course its rough as an SLC.
Even while it was traveling during the Barth era, it was kinda rough.
For example: Nessi in Hansa-Park germany is smooth as butter compared to Schwur des Kärnan. And Nessi is older then myself.
Maybe you could RMC this thing xDD
If you convince them to do vertical loopings.
1:19 so that's the magnum force coaster you were talking about in the red force parody
Just watched canobie coasters review and apparently there is a certain way to position the restraints so its not as painful and if done that way its a decent ride. Still want to check the ride out. Indiana beach was the biggest suprise on my road trip last year and one of my favorite parks for its atmosphere so its a shame it did not live up to expectations.
I just came back from Indiana Beach and rode this 8 times. Seems to vary per ride - front seat seemed to be better but I think the restraint height could be at fault. If they made it 50% softer it would help. The very back seat was brutal! The ride is super intense - that first drop is crazy. Seems like some of the track the train is making a lot of racket - like its fighting the track is that normal? You can sit whereever you like just tell them you want to wait for 1st seat although station is an odd design like its not big enough to queue in line. I did like the intensity of it just hope they can make it smoother. Odd they designed it so you can't raise your arms. If you are claustaphobic this isn't your ride... once in you are trapped inside. I think different custom cars may be the answer also. The guy in blue shirt and glasses was funny though wish other ride operaters were like that. (if he is reading this I was the one that told you they missed out on caling it 'Death Trap' due to the history) :)
3 vs 5 cars per train, which Magnum Force and Quimera had. If I had to guess I think this additional weight caused Quimera to be faster in general and more positive g's around the drops? 🤷♂
If Indiana Beach's budget is so tight that they resorted to buying a 40 year old roller coaster that killed 2 people, I doubt they have the money to make the necessary repairs.
A travelling one (with five loops) comes to London Winter Wonderland most years and I thought that one was really smooth
I’m imagining that one super rough, jack hammering, super jarring dive turn on Riddler Mindbender at SFOG except for an entire ride. Yikes.
At least Mindbender has only seatbelts & lap bars, so that jackhammering moment doesn't cause any neck or head banging. But yeah, it does sound like Triple Loop has several of those moments, plus bad restraints.
I rode it in the early 2000s at flamingo land as Magnum Force it was alright but at the time they had that they had a Schwarzkopf launch one. I didn’t ride magnum that much but it was alright for what it was. It was easy to tell it’s meant to travel than be a permanent coaster. It used to be a white and red and because of weather here in it always looked dirty. But for the time being simpler back then it was a good coaster probably won’t be that good now but when I was younger it was great.
It needs new trains. Brand new trains
Honestly, I think it needs those 2 track sections reworked before. The trains could be tolerable, if it didn't have those jolts in the profiling
@@jonny-b4954 I think that new trains with vests would help a lot
And probably be more lighter than the old ones. And have more riders per train
@@crazycreeper399 Yeah, but regardless those bumps in the profiling are undoubtedly going to cause whiplash eventually with some unknowing guest. Vest or not. It definitely needs new trains, which would give better capacity due to less loading time. But still, your main issue is head banging due to rough track profiling. It's also probably hella cheaper. $25-50k per piece of track, same amount for installation etc. Instead of $500k for a new train. Or more, due to being a custom job.
@@jonny-b4954 yea but still it would help make it somewhat more comfortable for riders
The gong coaster!....wheee gong gong gong...ouch!!!
And put a photo of chuck barris smiling lol
I was wondering about the rollback protection …
those transitions remind me of some of the ones on SOB!
Rode this thing the same day and I can say this thing is just BAD. As a physical therapist, this thing is going to seriously hurt someone that doesn’t realize what they’re getting into.
Couldn't agree more. I rode this last week and the next day I suffered debilitating pain when raising or turning my head either direction. It needs to be scrapped.
Remove those terrible hard accordion restraints and it should be fine. The ride was not meant to have them. I think the Mindbender trains were a quick solution to the problem. I am still upset Mindbender was not saved.
Honestly, they should've saved Mindbender than whatever it was called in MC. Atleast Mindbender actually remodeled their trains after the accident...
Was the previous derailment caused by anything similar to that on Mindbender many years ago?
Yes very similar incident
I want to say also they’ve kept this ride closed longer in the mornings and have been doing a LOT of work on the supports. There’s cranes and welders there all of the time
Any idea what they are specifically working on with the supports?
The Mellors group have the ex-looping star coaster from Parko Paliatso Luna Park in Cyprus and now it is operating at Kuwait Winter Wonderland in Kuwait
I love coasters, particularly older examples and am typically absolutely down for rougher ride experiences, but this is where I draw the line. Someone is going to get seriously hurt (again) on this thing.
I rode this multiple times back in La Feria, it was awesome. So sad it is like this now :/
What would you re-ride, All American Triple Loop, Bandit or Goudurix
I'm surprised that one of the major manufacturers haven't taken over the Schwarzkopf coasters to make the experience more modern. I feel like there's a way to maintain the legacy of these coasters while making them modern and smoother.
Gerstlauer’s facilities are located IN the old Schwarzkopf building. They do a lot of maintenance and part replacement for those old rides.
This video is amazing and wonderful but this coaster deserves a 0. I rode this coaster a week ago in the front car front row and the next day I suffered debilitating neck pain. It hurt to raise or rotate my head. I was literally stuck laying down flat and wished I had a brace that would prevent my neck from moving. People said I was getting older but something about it seemed off and dangerous. Then I found this article. It's a major rider beware moment because I have never hated a rollercoaster before. I thought this is ride will cause injuries and lawsuits before I watched this now that I have it seems credible.
I hope they can get this fixed! It’s a great park!
15 seconds into the ride I said “nope, never again in my entire life” it’s so rough but at least it looks really cool ?? Indiana Beach is still a great little park though
I obviously missed something over the last few years, why wasn't taking Mine bender as a whole not an option? Buggered Mexican track with Canadian trains, why not just take the whole Canadian?
Mindbender was built into the structure of the building
It's a shame to see this iconic Coaster in that way. I first was on it about 1990 on a Bavarian fairground. The original trains were equipped with lap-bars only. The first drop was a little bit rude😊, but it was a real Schwarzkopf Rollercoaster, smooth, thrilling and a joy to ride on.
Too many have died on old schwatzkopf coasters for me to ever ride one.
The restraint thing is not one that is very easily fixed though; if the riders have too much lateral movement, then no OTSR means that they could potentially be bashing into each other. In Mexico the laterals were brutal, but the vest harnesses (think High School backpack straps) made it at least comfortable to ride, even though it was running much faster than it was designed for. Trying to replicate those may be the best option if they want to try and improve rider comfort, because just eliminating them when they are dealing with sudden lateral jukes is not a recipe for good results.
Those throwing shade on the trains; the Mindbender trains are all front cars, which means they have extra safety during laterals. Lateral failures (back car derailment) is what caused the deaths on both Mindbender and this ride when it was in Mexico, and in Mexico, the way the ride was run (way too fast for the design; zero brakes) was very likely the cause of failure. These trains should be safe for the track, it's just making them comfortable for the riders.
I went yesterday and it was so painful. Literally hitting my neck and head the whole time. Don't even remember most of the ride and it broke both of my earrings off.
I ride Scorpion at BGT all the time and its still decently smooth and intense, and it only has a lapbar
Imagine the potential this coaster would have if RMC got their hands on it. First ever RMC Conversion of a Steel Coaster. Twisted Triple Loop??
Has anyone ridden both Triple Loop and King ? King is a portable Soquet coaster that travels on the french fair circuit. They both have similar layouts, the worst part being that King doesn't even have loops. However, they share the same problem, OTS restraints on a track full of bad profiling and transitions, resulting in serious headbanging. I've only ridden King, and I really hated it despite its potential.
Rode it once. They should put all of the park management on it and make them ride for 30 minutes.
I hope they try to fix it. It looks like a really fun ride.
I got lucky, and was placed in the front row. Had an enjoyable fun ride, wasn’t too bad. Than again, I was not in the back back
Mellor's group the owners of fantasy island have now got the Dorney Park ex-laser roller coaster and now operates in Saudi Arabia under the name Teststrecke it also got new trains from Zierer
6:58 What ride is this?
Actually liked it rode it twice Friday with no issues
Wow I’ve never heard of a coaster where you want to be stapled
I might be going to this park on a USA road trip next year and after hearing reviews im not sure im gonna enjoy it
This park is awesome. If you keep your expectation low and are looking for an old school. Throwback how parks used to be. Just don't expect any great coaster that are gonna knock your socks off. Even though coaster of lost superstition is amazing And Corn ball Express is good.
I grew up an hour from Indiana Beach. I'm glad it reopened and wish it success. But, I've only been there once. Because it's that bad. The response of this coaster isn't surprising.
It’s so painful. If it had that old lap bar trains it would be fun.
7:36. Hello Coaster Dash!
One thing that wasn't mentioned. It's not uncommon for a once smooth coater to be come rough and uncomfortable when its taken apart and moved. New base points and even the ground it's placed on can change it's charateristics. It's up to the new owner/operator to be aware of this. It's a shame that this one is so uncomfortable. I was stoked to see one of these in the states. I rode this coaster when i was in Hamburg. It was super intense but not uncomfortable. It's still one of the best portable coasters made when it's done right. Hope they can get it sorted out.
sounds like this should be the all American triple loop survival guide
They just have to get rid of the garbage restraints, and it would be so much better.
This is sad to hear. I rode this coaster when it was operating in the UK, it was intense but rather smooth.