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I believe 285k will be close to 9950X3D paired to AMD/Nvidia GPU at high resolution when the platform is optimized. But I don't think this is the peak of it. I think we will see the peak performance with upcoming INTEL ARC all INTEL system.
1. PCIe 5.0 direct access to CPU with 8 pin power. REBAR on steroids that will give a huge performance gain.
2. CUDIMM lifting the CPU speed closer to GPU allowing higher pairing. Memory speed is vital.
3. ARC from Xe to Xe2 giving 50% gain. Plus better VRAM.
4. Paired top ARC you get APO that is 10-50% gain on supported titles.
5. ARC Xe from 225W to Xe2 250-275W for more performance. That's doubling the performance.
6. Arrow Lake PL2 Extreme 295W
7. No Hyper-Threading Technology making way to very powerful E Cores.
We get 570W all up working for GPU pairing with architecture giving all good frames with no waiting/queuing where 60 FPS at 4k is better than 120 FPS from AMD/Nvidia where more than half the frames are broken or out of time giving stutter. 5080 is 400W card predicted and on paper the all INTEL system looks as good if not better. But with $1000 less coin.
Just note that many of the top reviewers say that APO makes very small difference. And they be right it doesn't work on AMD/Nvidia GPU pairing on their 4090 test. It is misleading and lack of knowledge and sponsored.
Also note that AMD/Nvidia doesn't get gains from REBAR nor E Cores (+-5%) because in single silicon architecture CPU only feeds the GPU where all the tasks are done hence the big Wattage.
In a nutshell
4090 24gb VRAM 384 bit bus 450W
4080 16gb VRAM 256 bit bus 320W
4070ti 12gb VRAM 192 bit bus 285W
4070 12gb VRAM 192 bit bus 185W
4060ti 8gb VRAM 128 bit bus 160W
4060 8gb VRAM 128 bit bus 115W
3090 24gb VRAM 384 bit bus 350W
3080ti 12gb VRAM 384 bit bus 350W
3080 10gb VRAM 320 bit bus 320W
3070ti 8gb VRAM 256 bit bus 310W
3070 8gb VRAM 256 bit bus 220W
3060ti 8gb VRAM 256 bit bus 200W
3060 12gb VRAM 192 bit bus 170W
a750 8gb VRAM 256 bit bus 225W
a770 16gb VRAM 256 bit bus 225W
6500xt 4gb VRAM 64 bit bus 107W
6600xt 8gb VRAM 128 bit bus 132W
6700 10gb VRAM 160 bit bus 220W
6750xt 12gb VRAM 192 bit bus 250W
6800xt 16gb VRAM 256 bit bus 350W
6900xt 16gb VRAM 256 bit bus 300W
6950xt 16gb VRAM 256 bit bus 335W
7600xt 8gb VRAM 128 bit bus 120W
7800xt 16gb VRAM 256 bit bus 300W
7900xt 20gb VRAM 320 bit bus 300W
7900xtx 24gb VRAM 384 bit bus 420W
A770 beats 4070ti at 4k. You get very good experience with ARC and RT in mid to high settings starting from 40 FPS and great at 60 FPS where the 4070ti struggles at 120 FPS to deliver and the experience is stutter and no RT. Add XeSS XMX to ARC in supported titles where the list is already long and you match DLSS quality. Great entry level card for 4k. Now that we are getting APO also on supported MB's with ARC the card will age like fine wine. And I'm very interested to see how does the Alchemist respond to Z890 boards with PCIe 5.0 direct access to CPU and CUDIMM. REBAR is plus 20% performance gain and REBAR in all is still pretty narrow compared to the PCIe 5.0 offering of 8 pin power and direct access to CPU that now resamples more speed and more powerful E Cores. Someone should test this so we get some idea of the platform with Battlemage.
What will AMD name thier CPUs after the 9950X3D? Sounds like thats about the limit unless they go 10 like intel did.
Very true...not sure