Do self cleaning ovens work? We test Pyrolytic & Catalytic self cleaning ovens
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- If you're buying a new oven and wondering whether to choose an oven with a pyrolytic or catalytic cleaning program, this video is for you!
I've both types at home so deliberately let them get dirty to test the effectiveness of the cleaning function.
Sure, manufacturers have videos of them working but they demonstrate on practically new and clean ovens - this video hides nothing!
Link to video of Steve cooking a full meal in a steam oven: • Cooking a full meal in...
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If you live outside our area and have questions about appliance please ask them in the TH-cam comments. Steve answers them all and then everyone can benefit from the answers. Thanks!
Footnote: Neff use the the trademark EcoClean for their catalytic liner cleaning system. - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
Useful and informative video, thanks for publishing it. 👍
I'm so glad I've got a Pyrolytic oven on order for my new house. Very informative.
They're fab but don't get a candy one!! Hover is great xx
Very useful explanation. Thank you
Very informative,very helpful.
Great video Steve. I was looking at cleaning my AEG Catalysis oven up here in Scotland and boom...you pop up on my screen! :) I hope your keeping well and that the business is keeping busy? .......To anyone reading this If you're in Kent and need a new kitchen, bedroom or bathroom then Roots is definitely the place to go. As you can see by the video Steve is very knowledgeable about the products he sells and offers great customer service.
Thanks for posting.
Thank you for making this video really helpful for me to make a decision on my purchase.
I'm happy it helped and thanks for commenting, it always makes me smile when I know the videos have been helpful
Thanks for this info !!
Very informative. 👍
My first time using a pyrolysis over today, freaking out big time from all the noise and watching it like a hawk in case of fire 😅🤣 your video gives me hope that it will clean after… excited to see how it looks like after. Amazing video , thank you!
Hi! Glad you liked the video 😊. So please tell us did it work and is your oven ✨clean now?
@@RootsKent AMAZING!! i kept going back to it I couldn't believe it actually worked!
Great video - thanks. We’re just in the process of doing our very first pyrolitic clean on our 4 month old Neff oven. 500 degrees - was a bit worried it would blow a fuse! Noise and smells in abundance currently with 35 minutes to go on the “medium” (2) setting. Wish us luck!
Good luck! (Ps I turn on our extractor fan to help remove the smells)
@@RootsKent It’s sparkling! Can’t believe it really. It was not in a bad state but had amassed quite a number of stains.
Do you know if the lamona pyrolytic oven is good? Just ordered through Howdens but when looking at reviews I'm concerned. Thanks
Lamona is Howden's own brand of appliances, and Howdens are a trade only supplier of building products (so for people reading this, they're normally bought through your builder as part of a larger project). If I recall, they sell some models from other brands too, including Neff.
I've not tested or played with any but as generally their market is very price competitive I'd expect it to be perfectly functional in the same way as couriers that deliver in the family hatchback vs couriers that deliver in vans. You get most of your packages but the hatchback won't deliver a 2m long tube as effectively as the van.
I'd expect the pyrolytic function to work, but maybe the compromise to get a lower price is cheaper components that may be nosier (check the spec sheet, see th-cam.com/video/SBfysIfETlg/w-d-xo.html for how), or slightly less insulation at a slightly higher cost of running, or less accurate temperature control (and once you're used to it, would you notice cooking your pizza for a few minutes longer?). They'll also make some savings by not having a cost of brand marketing but have less control over manufacturing - they're probably not going to have any leading edge designs or functions until the factory they're using decides to offer it.
Sorry, that's a long way of saying I don't know if the particular Lamona oven you're getting is good. I suspect the reviews you've found reflect that many of their products are targeting the lowest price and thus performance is often less than desired. Spending more on a branded product may be less risky but price alone isn't enough to be sure a product is better.
Hope that helps,
Steve
Hi Steve, should I be worried when considering buying a pyrolytic oven due to the fact that I have other equipment next to it, i.e. a microwave right above it, a fridge and freezer combo on its left?
To be more clear: pyrolytic ovens will reach temperatures around 500° and even thou with top notch isolation technology, I'm worried that it may damage the other equipments I have.
That's not a problem; microwave above is common and the heat is vented from the front of most ovens. For the fridge it's nicer not to have them next to an oven housing and if you can't avoid that, even a small air gap is helpful (18mm wide filler panel between them just 50mm deep so air can flow in the hidden void). I don't remember seeing any installation instructions saying you must not put built in fridge next to built in oven but it's a good idea to check before you buy if you can.
Some furniture manufacturers supply metal side bars to shield the adjacent cabinet door from any heat leakage from the oven and that might be useful if you can't spare the 18mm filler space.
after watching your video I am still confused whether to choose pyrolytic or eco clean direct oven, for bosch oven, they said that pyrolytic oven need replacements later is it true? thank you!
Hi Thư Đoàn,
There are no replacement parts for Pyrolytic to install later
There are no replacement parts for catalytic (eco clean) to install later,
however, many years ago catalytic liners were additional panels inserted into the oven that could be replaced and they had a shorter working life. Perhaps that is where the confusion comes from.
As for which to choose, personally my favourite is pyrolytic when it's available (in my home I wanted a steam oven and pyrolytic was not available for that model. On the plus side years later it meant I could make this video 🙂)
You talk about cleaning the walls and floor. Which product best cleans the roof of the oven? I do use the grilling function often.
Sorry for the slow reply, busy with my real job :-)
Some models will have a catalytic liner on the top of the oven too, so cleaning for the top is the same as the sides.
My favourite is still Pyrolytic, but you can in this video of my well used ovens the catalytic works too.
Hello and good morning. About to fit a new kitchen. Need help deciding on appliances. NEFF or AEG Black Premium Range? I’m not sure which to go for..
Thanks
Hi Darren,
We're a Neff retailer and I don't know enough about AEG to highlight the key differences.
Currently (Nov 22) the industry still has a lot of supply delays on ovens so it might be more a question of which manufacturer has stock of the models you like.
Same I need to get the appliances in ASAP I was looking at bosch. What did u get in the end?
@@nylas100 Haven’t ordered yet but think I will stick with AEG..
Have an AEG pyroltic oven, how do you stop the cleaning before it is completed?
We don't sell AEG but I expect you can't stop the cleaning before completion, or rather you could end the programme / turn off the power at the wall but the door will remain locked shut until it cools completely.
I would advise against turning it off at the wall mid programe, or at least turn it back on again, as the oven will use all available cooling fans to prevent heat from inside the oven damaging adjacent things. EG: the electronic circuit boards might be damaged by heat if the fans aren't running continuously.
Hope that helps, Steve
the parts that you have to take out while using the pyrolytic cleaning, can you put those in the dishwasher?
That is manufacturer dependant, but in general;
No, wash them by hand -or-
For some... you can leave them in the oven. Our current Miele and Neff working displays have 'Pyro' engraved on the shelf supports and telescopic runners so you know they can be left in during the pyrolytic cycle. Some of the non pyro safe supports do survive a pyro cleaning cycle but the high temperature makes them discolour.
What is your favourite type of self cleaning oven? Catalytic (liners) or pyrolitic? Love your informative videos! Thanks!
My first choice is pyrolytic, but as you see I'm my own home I'm happy with catalytic too. The steam oven I wanted didn't have a pyrolytic option.
I'm glad you're finding the videos useful
@@RootsKent thank you for replying! Are there any double steam ovens that are pyrolytic that have been launched since you bought your oven that you would recommend?
@@fatehabegum7502 Small detail, these are two separate ovens in the video. 90cm double ovens are generally only sold as replacements to existing double ovens now - 2 separate ovens offer more flexibility in functions + if one oven fails the other still works whilst you wait for repair.
There are no steam ovens with pyrolytic cleaning function yet (that I've seen, but we don't sell every brand - everyone please comment if you find one!).
@@RootsKent thank you for clarifying that! I am renovating my house in the next few months and currently researching which oven and induction hob to purchase. I was looking at double ovens only and didn’t consider buying two single ovens and stacking them to get the effect of a double oven! Thank you! Also if you were based in Kent I would have loved to visit your showroom and make some purchases!
The simplest summary I have is that 'Full steam' ovens can boil eggs (see th-cam.com/video/5ePwy9j_kAI/w-d-xo.html ) whereas 'steam assist' can't.
Steam assist adds moisture to the baking process but is not cooking with steam alone. Steam assist can improve cooking (as I found testing here: th-cam.com/video/lG-XQsBQ03M/w-d-xo.html , the Neff steam assist is called 'VarioSteam').
Haven't purchased oven yet. I was tempted with a pyrolitic oven but have been slightly put off from someone who told me about the glass of the oven door and the quad layer expands during the pyro cleaning session and if it's not thoroughly clean before the process u can be left with a yellow permanent stain on your oven door
Interesting! I can't say I've seen that. Glass is normally available as a spare part and not too hard to replace if it does happen and becomes annoying. I just looked at my Pyro oven at home and it's hard to tell if the glass has yellowed because it's a microwave so has a metal mesh between the layers. It may be more noticeable on non microwave pyrolytic ovens.
The stainless steel frame around the inside of the glass has yellowed slightly, but it's on the inside and it's clean so it doesn't worry me at all.
this is true ,I am on the process of cleaning mine with a baking soda😆
Can you use steam to clean the racks and rails in the oven. For me this is actualy the worst part of cleaning the oven. I have an option between a new steam assist (pyrolytic) and a full steam oven (eco clean). The pyrolytic can clean with all the racks in it. I like the steam oven, and would use it, but would forfeit steam if it's a pain to clean.
Great question!
"Steam to clean racks" -> yes! It certainly helps and makes it easier to clean the racks. In this video I cleaned the racks in the sink whilst the EcoClean program was running.
"forfeit steam if it's a pain to clean" -> As you can see in the video, I find the EcoClean works well so have been happy with my choice to go Full Steam + EcoClean
@@RootsKent Thanks!
Im confused now! What is eco clean and what is the difference between eco clean, catalytic and pyrolitic clean?
@@LenLen175 eco clean is the NEF brand name for catalytic; he says so at 2:26.
My Miele calls it pyrolysis. But its got a catalyser too!
That's interesting! Do you have the model number please, I'm curious to see more as I don't recall ever seeing a model with both methods.
Useless. How to clean the top inside the oven where the heat rod is?
Behind/above the grill element?
In the pyrolytic oven the heat burns off any deposits on the oven roof. You can wipe the dust between the grill element though there's so little left I don't normally do that.
For the catalytic coating this also covers behind the grill, so the catalytic cycle cleans this area too.
Old ovens used to have grill elements that were clipped in a way you could lower them for cleaning but that's no longer necessary if you have pyrolytic or catalytic coated ovens.
Waste of time imo, the racks and rails are what needs cleaning more than the oven walls and they need to be removed for this process.
Some models don’t require removal of racks. Higher-end Siemens units are a good example but be careful that the model chosen has Activeclean and not Hydrolytic cleaning.
@@gregmcgarry1why not hydrolytic cleaning ?
As @gregmcgarry1 says, current Neff and Miele models have pyrolytic safe shelves that can be left in place.
We don't sell Siemens, but these water based cleaning aids (like Neff's 'EasyClean') use water and a detergent in the bottom of the oven, heated into a warm moist environment and at the end of the programme you can wipe the oven out.
The heat + water + detergent softens cooking residue making cleaning easier. It definitely helps vs just enamel and cleaning products.
For me, I prefer the pyrolytic & catalytic options as I said in the video.