Thank you all for all the support lately I love you all ! I'll be making more TBC content because you guys seem to enjoy it and I love TBC more than any other expansion. If you want more content like this check this video, I'm talking about whether Blizzard should change TBC or not : th-cam.com/video/dMVXxAxYGEY/w-d-xo.html
As far as gold solution that would put more on blizzards end. Make bc only servers allow players to copy a character over under a gold cap (to be determined amount) then at least it's a level playing field partially
@Brian I did the original Karazhan at TBC launch and it was absolutely a raid where you could spend an entire night wiping on some bosses. There was a sizeable difference in difficulty between 2.0 Kara and 2.4.3 Kara. It wasn't really buggy either. That was SSC/TK.
@@cjl2640 I agree, I'm playing now on private TBC server with pre NERF kara and its not fast and easy. It takes at least 3-4h to get it done with group that knows what to do.
@Brian Sounds like you’ve never been in a shit guild before Hahahaha my friends guild took hours and hours to clear Kara...weeks to kill one boss on SSC
@@cjl2640 And despite my playing since Vanilla. Kara was my first raid. It was a learning experience. Also fun. Got through to SSC and brick walled at Kael'thas in TK for a while. Never completed BT, though I had a lot of fun there. Good times.
Scryers is the best faction. No matter what. I deduced this from the fact that you can survive jumping off their platform but you die from Aldor, because it's higher.
@@MrFacu809 yeah you're dead if you jump from anyother spot there and also this spot that i'm saying you can't even jump jump you need to walk down not run walk". I know this because it completes some achievement from a world event on wrath can't recall which one thou. Cheers! Stay safe brother.
@@sertouchthis no no man you can survive that fall with any class. You go full left where you can a sentinel stay on the edge put your char on walking mode and don't jump, just move forward for the fall. You'll end with 2 or 3% of your HP but you won't die. This is the spot where almost everyone on Warmane goes for that achievement. There are many other possible spots of course like in the belfs starting zone up on those towers with a lake bellow and others the trick is always put walking mode and never jump to try out different spots to do this. Cheers man stay safe!
1: Dont underestimate Professions (Pre raid BiS / CD) 1:15 2: Care when choosing quest rewards. (lots of pre raid BiS) 3:55 3: Get attunement quests asap 5:17 4: Rep farm in normal dungeons before quests to make rep farm shorter 6:15 5: Aldor or Scryer choice isnt too important, just a few faction enchants and some pre raid BiS 8:41 6: Play fun class > best class 10:25 7: Save gold for flying 11:27
@@BGgungame I had enough of a RPG, D&D playing family that I embraced the glass cannon. I went full crit and damage. Who needs hit, who needs stamina, who needs intellect, all I care about is big numbers!
Playing TBC a few days after launch was one of the most fun times I've ever had in a game. They did such a good job on the quests / dungeons in hellfire peninsula, and each new area you get to after that is more beautiful than the last. Zangarmarsh, Nagrand.. The forests outside of Shattrath.. Ahh. So beautiful. So relaxing.
i agree with quests and dungeon in hellfire, its great, but the map itself is so annoying, the weird dungeon entrances, it has an overrall boring design compared to all other maps, altough it does give that "forgotten wasteland" vibe.
boosting is a symptom. when people can gold farm on a hunter for an hour, and pay a mage to boost their alts for 10 levels from that... ur gonna have that. hell, i mainly farm firewater n jujus n have paid to get my last 2 alts boosted. the problem is people buying gold from farm-bots. i have seen CTS go for over 20k gold in gbid runs... yea, sorry, but there is no way (except the 1 guy on my server ALWAYS selling DMT) that was farmed legit. if prices are super inflated cause enough people have enough gold to throw around.. yea, il take their gold for my goods or mage services, and respend it on boosts
@@Max-hw7xl boosting is not a symptom, it's what drives the gold market. if you weren't able to get boosted you'd have far less incentive in buying gold from gold farmers. as you said it yourself, you farmed up the gold for boosts. if boosts werent viable, you'd have nothing to spend that gold on and you definitely wouldn't have the incentive to buy gold from gold farmers.
@@ivoivic2448 the incentive to buy gold comes with raiding naxx. Almost everyone buys gold. Someone dropping 10k gold for an onslaught girdle in MC proved to me that the richest players just bought or botted their fortunes.
I honestly had little to no interest in playing Classic itself when it was announced. However, this one possibility, right here, is the reason I was ecstatic for Classic's announcement. It'd give me the chance to experience Burning Crusade again. I cannot wait to level a warlock through that expansion again. Tailoring/Enchanting for my Shadowweave/Spellstrike set.
Draemei Shaman for me. Enhancement to 40 and then respec to resto, like I did back then. And this was back in the day when resto could still do some proper damage, though nowhere near as well as an enhancement shaman.
as a someone who used to play healing priest, a word of advice: Make two banking alts, one for herbs other for leather. Pick up herbalism and skinning as lvling professions. send herbs to one banking alt, send leather to another. Once u lvl cap it. drop skinning and pick up alchemy. Send over all those herbs back and lvl alchemy up until u can craft healers alchemy stone trinket. Ull be using that trinket with blue dragon card for quite a while until u get lucky to actually get some end game trinkets from raids. When u get alchemy stone and enough stockpiled primal lifes, drop herbalism and pick up tailoring. Use all those cloths u saved while lvling and primal lifes u got from herbalism to craft healing robe set with healing enchantments etc. At this point if u upgrade ur robes to something that is better than craftable healing set, drop tailoring and pick up leatherworking. Or if u find better healing trinket then alchemy stone, drop alchemy and pick up leatherworking. LW is gonna be essential to crafting drums of speed for endgame raids. gl.
@@caretheis6779 i get hate all the time from my guildies but i hated kara, i was doing it with a guild that had cleared naxx so most had a lot of t3. Kara loot was shit, organising 4 grps of 10 annoying we walked over everything upto Kael'T. Most naxx loot is better than all t4 and t5 in some cases, even pre-nerf it will be a blood bath just to gear your pallies/shammies. Kara was always and will always be a chore for me
Another way to grind rep if you don't have a reliable dungeon group is to do Ethereum Jailers in Netherstorm. They drop keys to prisons that release NPCs that give reputation for several factions including Sporeggar. They can also spawn monsters that you kill for items that give Consortium rep.
In terms of the gold inflation, I kinda hope that they will give the option of completely fresh servers for people who weren't interested in classic or just want a fresh start. I think there should be transfer servers too obviously, just a choice so that there is a clear reset option if people want it.
So much Knothide Leather farmed......but worth it. The dungeon instance attunement, getting the keys to unlock Heroic's and certian raids. TBC was my bae.
#1 = 1:15 - Professions #2 = 3:55 - Quest Reward Choices #3 = 5:15 - Kara Attunement #4 = 6:15 - Dungeon Rep Farms #5 - 8:37 - Aldor or Scryers #6 - 10:20 - Pick a Class You Love #7 - 12:25 - Save Gold in Classic starting right meow TL;DW: Pick a class, research it to death before launch. GG
9:51 You are missing out the "Shattered Sun Pendant of Acumen" sold at Isle of Quel'Danas, which is by far best in slot for all casters, but only if you are an Aldor.
Here from Kargoz stream man. Been following for years and he go me to start streaming with HC and diving deep into WoW, always been a fan nev had a chance to play. I dont know much but what I've picked up getting my 1st ever 60 as an HC Warrior, I'm at 32 rn, and I wanna play the shi okt of tbc, this will help me a lot thank you
On the Classic professions: Not entirely accurate. For example: Bloodvine. The Tailoring Bloodvineset gives you bonus crit but ONLY if you are a tailor. This is essencially like the Spellstrike set from TBC.
@@bass-dc9175 Yeah, you're right, I mixed up the names. Bloodvine is like spellstrike and Robe of the Archmage is like Spellfire (Which was BOP during BC but no longer is?).
@@mattd923 "like Spellfire (Which was BOP during BC but no longer is?)." Huh honestly did not know that they changed it. Yeah during TBC, the Special-Tailoring Sets where BoP. Interesting to know that they changed it. Probably to help tailors make money through selling it to transmog guys.
I'm hoping they offer a couple fresh TBC servers for those that either didn't play vanilla classic or don't want to deal with the crazy economy from gold and item hoarders. Also it will help the new shammys and pallys not feel light years behind at the start.
tbc had so much outside of raids and it wasnt that bad to do either. you had your clear goal and afterwards it was done. I loved the way it let you work towards all those raids. the shattrat factions were great as well even though I will always go for the dranei one.
@@NumidiaWoW yeah but even outside of dailies. Professions, rep, those faction (its mindblowing that blizzard managed to do something better 13 years ago), arena and so on and on. Even getting the key for kara keeps you bussy for long if you are not a hardcore player. Its the perfect expansion for people like me
Re. farming rep for Revered I'd like to suggest modified approach as I think that Rep gain is level relevant: - farm Hellfire Citadel til Honored, 0 or minimal quests. - farm Slave Pens and Underbog til Honored - punch all quests for these two factions. I reached as test run both keys at level 66 mage. Probably can be done better.
tbc isnt going fresh server though thats the thing, if you wanna keep playing classic as 60 cap you gotta like soft copy the toon onto a nilla classic server
On the points of rep with CE, you can buy unidentified plant parts, usually very cheap, and get the initial rep that way as well. You could also just use them to supplement the rep you're farming in UB/SP. Blade's Edge also has quite a few quests that reward CE rep. Saving the quests till 70 also isn't really necessary, as soon as you hit Honored you can do them if you want to. Saving them for 70 just adds the bonus gold from the XP conversion but if all you care about is rep+xp then you should probably do HFP dungeon farm -> HFP quests -> ZGM dungeon farm + plant parts turnin -> ZGM quests. I'd recommend anyone serious about leveling with this method to check up on which questlines/questhubs actually reward the relevant reps, as there are many exodar quests in HFP and ZGM for example and these obviously don't need to be saved until honored.
“Very easy and quick raid” My man have you been in Kara in pre raid gear as a fresh server . You mean you’ll be in there for 5 hrs minimum first few times .
well you dont need Kharazan Attunement. There is behind Kharazan tower some ruins where missing texture where you drop Under the Kharazan tower, (more like Easter Egg alias Smile face under Kharazan) then you can enter the Karazan Raid portal from behind.
that doesn't work until the Sunwell patch, when all the attunement requirements were removed. You MUST have the key on your person to enter the portal.
This is killing me... when the game was new... when vanilla was retail... we took all our shit through the dark portal... the Classic run of this game should be no different.
Tbc was the best healing and most fun as a Druid healer and Paladin tank. Man it was fun. Paladins didn’t have a direct taunt but you could easily bubble others and you create a macro that you could create . Man they where fun.. hard to gear, but a ton of fun. But I like the harder tasks.
I remember when BC launched back in the day, it was my favorite expansion. It's the reason I just started playing WoW again, when they said they were bringing BC to Classic I jumped right in. The only problem I have is none of those I ran with from vanilla launch to 2009 play anymore and so far the only people that I've grouped with were trash
Thank you for useful tips. TBC has my favourite aesthetics and with all the class changes I'm really exicted, especialy as PvP player. I haven't gotten the oppurunity to play it when it was out though so I'm glad I found this video to help.
1:25 You show recipies, which eventually drop in Sunwell. When launching TBC, there is no real usage for juwelcrafting, other then gems (which are not soulbound). So I highly recommend to take any other profession on launch date.
#YesChanges. Nerf the haste Drums of War gives or allow it to be used without Leather Working. I like having engineering in classic because it gives a bunch of different useful items. I do not want to lock out one of my professions for ONE SINGLE item. Priests do not need leatherworking.
It's not officially confirmed but it is pretty much is a certainty. Blizzard Polling players on TBC : www.wowhead.com/news=311753/classic-burning-crusade-character-creation-survey-sent-by-blizzard A respected source that has connections with Blizzard confirming it : twitter.com/nanonost/status/1303392668765085697?lang=en The Beta for Classic being restarted again : classic.wowhead.com/news=318714/classic-beta-back-to-the-battle-net-catalog-classic-tbc-soon So many players are hyped at this moment because it's imminent and Blizzard will have an online event in a month I believe where they will probably announce TBC there.
Pay attention to stats. I couldn't get a good tanking shield pre-kara, so I ground out some honor and picked up the PvP shield, which had a TON of armor and stam. But it also had resilience, which helps tanks be crit-immune.
Hey what happens if I craft the Primal Mooncloth Set for my paladin and then I unlearn tailoring??? Do I keep the set with all stats or not because the set requires Mooncloth Tailoring and level 70??
I just tested that on my own private server and as soon as I unlearned tailoring and relogged the items were literally removed from me and mailed to me. I can't equip the items without tailoring and mooncloth spec.
@@NumidiaWoW Thx for this information. I was not sure about it because of WoW Classic. E.g. the pvp set. you only need a certain rank to buy this. after you lost the pvp rank, you are able to equip and unequip the stuff. I thought it's the same. Thank you very much !!! ;))
ahhh good old times playing tankadin without having to gimick, and ret paladin could be somewhat viable (even if you where sometimes a +2% bonus for damage for the rest of party)
ikr? My guild was against me tanking (as a paladin), but after I did a few runs that made otherwhise difficult heroics and ae tanking in general a breeze, they changed their midn.
@@sebastianpetersen5694 i was mosty referring to blessing of king threat generation that classic paladin tanks do in current classic. Tankadin is great in TBC but you needs to really learn how to manage your mana
I'm a hunter player, I have played hunter for the most part since vanilla. one of the few times I did switch, was oddly enough in tbc, where I switched to rogue, what a mistake, Hunters were OP were rogue sucked. I only play Warlock for PvP, because its really fun. Elemental shaman is also very fun, all tese classes just happen to be very useful too. So this time artound, I will not be switching to rogue, but stay hunter and level a warlock for PvP
Best choice ever, just play what you love playing because if you force yourself to play something that performs good but that you don't necessarily enjoy you're just not going to have fun because your class is the scope through which you see the game and if you don't enjoy it you won't enjoy the game !
Hi, I believe it makes no sense to make a gold cap. How would you value in Items, like Black Lotus or Edgemaster? If they want to stop the inflation, they have to add services into the game, which are useful more than once and cost a bunch of gold. Like Expboost, that you use instead of instance boosting or so. Best regards Wiwicas
Yeah if you're gonna cap gold then you need to cap resources, then if you cap resources you need to cap people with tons of profession alts, and then if you delete profession alts how do you tell a profession alt from a legitimate alt that someone has ? It's a big can of worm :p
Or something that helps in pve maybe some buffs that you can buy for gold from an npc but that wouldnt be original thc anymore thats the problem but i think an economy reset before tbc will help a bit for the reason that not everybody is able to get flying mount instant on lvl 70 even that guys that know how to make gold will need some time cause not everybody has gold to buy items from the auctioneer but after that i dont see a way to make the economy better maybe just buy souldbound mats dont know
Awesome video dude! I really agree with point number 6. I played a warlock alt in TBC when it originally came out because they were OMGLEET....but years later I find that 1 button specs are boring AF. I learned that lesson with Classic in playing a mage because I wanted to have a strong class with good quality of life and could make gold easily.....except the 1 button raid meta.....ZZzzZZZzzz. Going to play a class with a playstyle I like this time around.
Thank you I appreciate it ! And yeah totally playing something you don't enjoy playing will just kill your enjoyment for the game so play what you want to play, and TBC is probably the expansion that will punish you the least for playing what you like !
A gold reset would never work because you can just spend all your gold in the AH on consumables or crafting material and sell it after the reset again. Or even straight fill your bankalts with grey/white weapons that sell for a lot of gold at vendors after the reset. Imagine this: runecloth sells at the AH for 10 silver and goes at the vendor for 7 silver (these are imaginary numbers but you get the point). You can convert 1000 gold to 700 gold just by vendoring said material at vendors after the reset.
So i just saw 2 videos from u in a row, somehow no idea how it just played next. and sir i have to say, here u go Subscribed! hope to see more from u while the TBC classic hype rises, (and yes i wanna go back to the glory days even tho i skipped Classic because i had to do my service.)
There's a player on my server who has been the same lvl for 4 months .A Druid lvl 44 ,He farms the shellfish in Desolace at all hours. I think he may be a gold farmer.
First of all, great video :). Regarding the gold topic. I think there is a really big difference by resetting the economy or going into TBC with a fundamentally broken economy. Think about it, 5000g for the epic flying was a huge amount of gold in TBC and will still be that at launch of tbc classic in the case of a reset. Gold makers will definitely catch up eventually but it will take some time and this will still leave a chance to fix the problem. If we don't reset, 5k gold is nothing. Ppl are sitting on hundreds of thousands of gold and letting this in from the start will ensure that Classic TBC economy will be irreparably broken from the start. I completely get the point of ppl who have spent months preparing gold for TBC but I really don't think it would be in the best interest of TBC to allow this in freely.
Mainly for the enchants, which as I said have very small power difference, Aldor sells +spell damage and Scryers sells +spell crit, and spell damage is generally better for Shadow priests.
So hyped for TBC classic, and very useful vid! But it sadens me to think most people will now follow this meta way of levelling for rep rather then just playing normally...
@@Leerill More like an utility build for the group, it's like Ret pally, but don' t expect the group leader will have more than 1 shadow priest/Ret pally because these two class still can' t have decent DPS like BM hunter, Warlock or AZ rogue.
"your class is how you experience the game, all the way through raiding and pvp" As a retail Frost dk i felt that, Wrath classic cant come soon enough.
I think that a lot of people who makes guides forget that a lot of us don't come here because we want the best of the best, but because we're afraid we might make a mistake in our choices. It's so nice hearing the whole "play what you enjoy, not what is good", because it soothes the anxiety of making wrong choices, while actually letting us enjoy our time more with the game. Many of us treat the guides as voices of authority, so it really matters what we hear, hence why so many more people rolled warrior and mage in classic compared to vanilla. I think some people would actually have enjoyed the game more if they heard that chosing what's fun is okay, rather than "you need to go this spec, and use these consumables, and get these world buffs". When I first started playing classic (having never played vanilla and knowing nothing), I picked priest because it was the best healer, but by level 45 I simply quit the game. I just wasn't having fun. So I just sort of gave up and decided to level a druid because I knew they were faster levelers, and figured I would at least get to 60 then. Now I have two level 60 druids and I'm so passionate about my class despite it being subpar in many regards, because it's just the class I have the most fun with by far. So thank you for telling us what really matters. Fun.
One possible solution for the drums would be to remove the LW requirement so anyone can use them. I'm surprised there was no mention of Bloodlust rotations and shaman stacking. That became a big deal in Sunwell.
when I was play TBC I have the main rouge human and I do raid and dungeon it is a struggle and difficult and the start but it's the end game I enjoyed the experience. In my opinion, play the game and enjoy the journey don't try to high perform
About the economy.... : Resset will help alot, cause like u said they need to do it AGAIN ( it also could help classic economy if blizz annouces it right now somethin like: U ll get 10% of your money ) How to stop breakin economy again? Blizz should probably aim for the highest income strategise and thats boostin ( and it ll be far far bigger in TBC ) So how u can stop or slow boostin proces so it shouldnt be so efective as money tool? Lower the entrances pre hour or set minimum level for entrance as high as that player is able to do somethin in it or make lvl range for entrance ( prob easiest and cleanest way ) but in this scenario it should be chance to go thru it ( forget q or pre raid bis )
To answer your question about inflation, the best way is to remove gold from the market. Usually this is done through gold sinks such as the 5k flying mount, repair bills, etc. Another thing Blizzard could do is to start banning the people who buy gold. Not just on their throw away accounts but on their main. Not only would this reduce the amount of gold in circulation but it would also reduce demand for gold (From gold farmers) as those players will be less likely to buy gold in the future (though they might pay for level boosting). With less interest in the farming market, farmers will either have to charge less for gold or downsize, the latter of which will reduce gold in circulation even more. With less gold in circulation things like the epic flying mount will be a more effective gold sink as normal players will not be able to sell items for high prices like when gold was in circulation and the economy will slow down.
I want to touch on 2 things regarding "Play the class/spec you want" Most people are talking about how 'useless' ret paladin was. *Ret paladin's* dps was hard to do (even though a one button macro actually did maximize its dps). The reason? CORRECT gear. People saw warriors and went "let's put strength or attack power leather gear on.". Yeah! that works! Retadins is a different game. Outside tier armor, the gear isn't exactly itemized great for them. Since they need both STrength AND intellect. So very few plate pieces that aren't tier gear do that. So what did you need? PVP gear. PVP gear filled out the rest of the slots very nicely except for a few places where you could find Druid gear leather (Str/agi/Int). So they only scaled WELL once they had a lot of the correct stats. Don't really need to bother with attack power since a lot of their damage... wasn't based on attack power. For instance, Seal of Command was NOT affected by attack power, but simply the damage your weapon did. Tehre is no damage difference on it when naked with a two hander and fully t6 geared with that same two hander. But having the mana to keep it up is important. Same thing with Crusader strike, attack power did not affect its damage. But you still needed mana to keep it going. Furthermore, pvp gloves increased its damage further, so tier everything but gloves and then pvp gloves gave them a good dps boost. Their dps would still be on the lower end, but what they do bring besides, a lot of buffs and a lot of buffs prot and holy can't bring. the 3% extra crit damage against its target being a raidwide buff essentially is on its own useful to have ONE ret paladin (and then sanctity aura was worth it if paired with a prot paladin's group) *survival hunter* I remember in tbc days, most people wanted BM because "It does more damage". Well, selfish nancy's, every group should be DEMANDING a survival hunter. Survival hunters wanted agility+ gear over Attack power+ gear, because they had that expose weakness debuff where 33% of their agi gets added to attack power to ALL physical damage dealers in the RAID (not party) against that target, and this was one of the biggest potential damage boosts, and only survival had it. Why raids skipped this I'll never know. "but my damage is a little better as BM" yeah, but EVERYONE'S damage is a lot better if you're survival. But, you only wanted one survival hunter. there was no point in having two.
I just want to start classic now to lvl a Charakter to be rdy for tbc what so say will be great for pvp and pve dps ? I thought about hunter but saw some vids they say hunter is not so good in pvp... so i am not sure right now
I actually don't know anything about PvP so if that's a big factor to you I don't want to suggest you something that would end up being shit :p But I can suggest you to go and ask people on the Atlantis Karazhan Discord, it's a private server and there's a lot of cool dudes right there and they are playing the game right now so that's the best legitimate advice you can get I think.
@@Anininas hunter is op in battle grounds, doesn't fit it so well in 2s comp but you can find a group for 3s but it bgs and raids you are a king. Play hunter and enjoy it, fk whatever anyone says
Warlock is probably the best when it comes to being good in pvp and pve. Rogues and DPS warriors will be in low demand for raids but they're still amazing in PvP. Just pick whatever you enjoy,. Like he says in the video, TBC is really good at finding a place for every class/spec.
They probably won't, most likely they will allow everyone to keep their level 60 characters as they are, but I could be wrong on that. I suggest you start levelling something you like now :p
@@NumidiaWoW thanks for reply. I know in a survey they asked about it, and one option was to start at lvl 58. Don't you think they are missing a lot of potential customers who just want to play TBC?
@@stillnotchill2560 Again I could be wrong on this but I think the majority of players that will play TBC are currently playing Classic now or have played Classic for a while most of them having reached level 60 already, and the number of players that are only interested in TBC to the point where they didn't even touch or didn't reach level 60 in Classic represents a very small minority. For this reason I think they will go for the option to move the characters as they are into TBC and not reset everything. Again I could be completely wrong on this, I'm basing this on the fact that there's many many people I play with that tell me that they prefer TBC to vanilla but they are still playing Vanilla because it's still cool.
You forgot to mention that the Aldor / Scryers choice influences the Quel Danas necklace in patch 2.4. Scryers hunters/melee dps will basically be screwed because the Aldor AP proc of that necklace at exalted is MUCH better. That's late in the game, but still...
I'm still torn between rolling pally or hunter, I like both but I feel like hunter will have an easier time of getting into raid groups. I've got a capped warrior and hunter on Classic, and it's hard to ever get groups on the warrior just because there's sooo many warriors running around Classic.
You always need a lot of pallies to cover all the blessings and you always need a lot of hunters because they just do the best DPS, so just choose whichever you enjoy playing the most in my opinion.
There will be a demand for pallys, especially on alliance where a lot of people will be switching to shaman. On horde I predict there will be an absolute shit ton of blood elf pallys running around.
Hunters is literally the new warrior for tbc, every warrior fotm rerolling noob will go hunter for tbc because they heard it was OP with the one button rotation (that is guaranteed to not work in classic tbc btw).
10k gold dosent happend over night tho. That is something peoples have accumulated of months and month of play. So yes an economy reset would make the launch and severals month moving forward a better experience.
If they told us they were resetting gold, someone with 10k gold would just buy 10k worth of mats off AH, then sell them again in TBC. Might take a couple days to sell but they'd have 10k+ in a couple days again. It would be annoying and that's about all.
I wish TBC would be its own seperate thing from classic (i know it wont be). If you want to play at release you can either import a character from classic (no gold only items) and continue that characters journey or make a new one that starts at 60 except for alliance shaman and horde paladins.
On the gold subject i dont think it should be an entire economy wipe. But maybe a gold cap on transferring toons/accounts to not discourage new players from joining tbc
Old People made less mistakes back then because going from level 55 to level 60 took me average 3 days . And each quest was thoroughly scanned upon online, each thing crossed checked so it would make things smooth in future. I always used to think why wow has windowed mode, but the amount if times we used thottbot for nearly every second quest was the answer.
I would set an account gold cap of 6 or 7K for entry into TBC. Why? Because it maximizes the relative starting point for average players while minimizing existing gold farmer advantages.
I don't completely agree with your recommended leveling/rep farm method. High level (normal) dungeons give more rep and you'll be farming them anyway for gear as their loot tables remain mostly unchanged, with heroics only adding badges and epic gems. Personally I prefer going capping level first. What I like doing instead is buying/farming [Unidentified Plant Parts] and turn them in until Honored (for Cenarion Expedition). Same thing with [Arakkoa Feathers] and Lower City rep.
The raids are gonna be pre nerf, that means Kara is going to be extremely difficult compared to it's post nerf counterpart, just moroes is practically impossible depending on what randomized named npcs are around him.
I clearly remember very few guys farming their asses off and having epic flight as soon as they hit 70. It didn't affect my life then and it won't affect my life now
Mind you for #4, There's no "show lower level quests" in TBC. That came in Wrath. So if you're going to ding 70 without doing any of the HFP/Zangar quests, you're gonna need some help from a quest addon.
i'm a druid main (feral over other specs) and i will have LW, but i absolutely hate drums of battle or war. 1) if you add the exhaust debuff, then you have to add the same debuff on the other drums too. the problem with that approach is that if you're in BGs or open world with someone in your party and you need, for example drums of speed to escape from someone and your party member activates their drums of battle, you cannot activate the drums you need. 2) if you make the buff raid-wise, you're essentially nerfing the entire content right from the get-go and it's inconsistent with how every other buff in TBC works (they are all party-wide) 3) maybe by making drums of battle BOE we could fix the issue. however, that's essentially the same as nerfing the entire content straight from the get-go, but as we know it, hardcore guilds will demand LW on at least 20 people, so it might be a viable option as it reduces the gap between the hardcore guilds and everyone else - and that's always a good thing to do. the biggest issue with drums of battle is that it grants a scaling power boost (5% haste). drums of war for example, grant 60 AP and 35 SP and while that may seem equally as bad, keep in mind that when SWP gets released, the 5% haste holds a MUCH higher value than 60 AP or 35 SP. i can only see this issue resolved by them reworking the drums of battle or just removing them altogether. about the gold - there MUST be a cap (like 100-200g) so the economy stays healthy for as long as possible. gold matters on TBC far more than it matters on classic and transferring the entire character with 200k gold would destroy the entire expansion right from the start. it's the reason why i would prefer a few level 1 realms without transferred characters for TBC.
@@holysecret2 and by not releasing fresh servers they'll do the exact same thing. players who just wanted to play TBC without any handicap, without inflated economy and without being forced into an environment with people that are 60 levels ahead of them. not to mention realm firsts. i don't care about that, but it's a fun race/event to watch while leveling or doing something. personally, i hate vanilla and the classic in general. i played it and it sucked for me on many levels. with no option for a fresh (level 1 only) realm, i'd feel forced to level up at least one of my 3 characters on classic or i'd be in a huge handicap starting at level 1. not to mention getting ganked and griefed much earlier than it should ever be the case - that wasn't the case on the original TBC release, since the entire continent was new and everyone wanted to explore it for themselves. nowadays, everyone know basically everything about 60-70 content and it's not the same experience as it was 10-15 years ago
Thank you all for all the support lately I love you all ! I'll be making more TBC content because you guys seem to enjoy it and I love TBC more than any other expansion.
If you want more content like this check this video, I'm talking about whether Blizzard should change TBC or not : th-cam.com/video/dMVXxAxYGEY/w-d-xo.html
@@arkfan5345 Thank you I appreciate it !
You only need to be honored to do hc
As far as gold solution that would put more on blizzards end. Make bc only servers allow players to copy a character over under a gold cap (to be determined amount) then at least it's a level playing field partially
Is this numidia from Pyrewood? :D
You dont need to be Revered to enter heroic dungeons, only honored, thats something you said that is wrong
"Karazhan is a very easy and quick raid"
*Flashbacks to when we spent 9 hours in there, wiped about 20 times and watched the guild fall apart*
You played the real karazhan
His version is on patch 2.4.3 totally different
@Brian I did the original Karazhan at TBC launch and it was absolutely a raid where you could spend an entire night wiping on some bosses. There was a sizeable difference in difficulty between 2.0 Kara and 2.4.3 Kara. It wasn't really buggy either. That was SSC/TK.
@@cjl2640 I agree, I'm playing now on private TBC server with pre NERF kara and its not fast and easy. It takes at least 3-4h to get it done with group that knows what to do.
@Brian Sounds like you’ve never been in a shit guild before Hahahaha my friends guild took hours and hours to clear Kara...weeks to kill one boss on SSC
@@cjl2640 And despite my playing since Vanilla. Kara was my first raid. It was a learning experience. Also fun. Got through to SSC and brick walled at Kael'thas in TK for a while. Never completed BT, though I had a lot of fun there. Good times.
Scryers is the best faction. No matter what. I deduced this from the fact that you can survive jumping off their platform but you die from Aldor, because it's higher.
Nope i know a spot next to the Sentinels that won't kill you it leaves you with 2% hp but not dead.
@@aldriel8274 so very specific spot to survive vs always surviving
@@MrFacu809 yeah you're dead if you jump from anyother spot there and also this spot that i'm saying you can't even jump jump you need to walk down not run walk". I know this because it completes some achievement from a world event on wrath can't recall which one thou. Cheers! Stay safe brother.
@@aldriel8274 its going down? Falling from 65yards and not dying. Easy for rogues and paladin with bubble.
@@sertouchthis no no man you can survive that fall with any class. You go full left where you can a sentinel stay on the edge put your char on walking mode and don't jump, just move forward for the fall. You'll end with 2 or 3% of your HP but you won't die. This is the spot where almost everyone on Warmane goes for that achievement. There are many other possible spots of course like in the belfs starting zone up on those towers with a lake bellow and others the trick is always put walking mode and never jump to try out different spots to do this. Cheers man stay safe!
Naturally I whipped up Thotbot looked at the rewards... Scyers has a frickin epic mage staff
Scryers has some really good items for casters yep
I wonder if jimmy is still playing Everquest
@@NumidiaWoW i think he meant this video . th-cam.com/video/xeUhSjuhQYE/w-d-xo.html
I'm all about the professor plums
@@NumidiaWoW yeah but did you see the Aldor staff it look.. it should be epic...
1: Dont underestimate Professions (Pre raid BiS / CD) 1:15
2: Care when choosing quest rewards. (lots of pre raid BiS) 3:55
3: Get attunement quests asap 5:17
4: Rep farm in normal dungeons before quests to make rep farm shorter 6:15
5: Aldor or Scryer choice isnt too important, just a few faction enchants and some pre raid BiS 8:41
6: Play fun class > best class 10:25
7: Save gold for flying 11:27
Thank you ! My lazy ass will now include this in the description so it shows up in the timeline of the video :p
When I was a 14 yr old plebian the choice was simple.
Am I Alliance? Well okay then Draenei Aldor.
Am I a Horde? Well okay then Bloodelf Scryer.
Reminds me of me when I started back then too. I thought: "What's the most important stat? Stamina! Because more HP. So my mage must stack stamina."
@@BGgungame I had enough of a RPG, D&D playing family that I embraced the glass cannon. I went full crit and damage. Who needs hit, who needs stamina, who needs intellect, all I care about is big numbers!
Hahaha that was actually me aswell.
@@BGgungame god you just reminded me of all the stam tanks that saturated TBC.. oh your hp's are too low. your not a tank..
Been there, done that.
Playing TBC a few days after launch was one of the most fun times I've ever had in a game. They did such a good job on the quests / dungeons in hellfire peninsula, and each new area you get to after that is more beautiful than the last. Zangarmarsh, Nagrand.. The forests outside of Shattrath.. Ahh. So beautiful. So relaxing.
i agree with quests and dungeon in hellfire, its great, but the map itself is so annoying, the weird dungeon entrances, it has an overrall boring design compared to all other maps, altough it does give that "forgotten wasteland" vibe.
Every bc zone was amazing
playing at launch was my single worst experience other than vanilla launch. Pushing everyone into one zone was idiotic.
Mistake I wanna avoid on the first day:
-Don't get killed by Fel Reaver!
you will fail on that quest, those bastards are sneaky
I'm going to die to it intentionally for the Nostalgia, and authenticity.
"No dude. I want the blue staff"
and oh my freaking god did I type. WTF
@@Kirasupporter1 AN ALDOR I SAID?! ALL THEY HAVE IS A DAMN BLUE STAFF. SCREW THE BLEW STAFF, WE’RE GOING FOR THE EPICS. EPIIIIIICS
gotta rewatch that gem now ^^
Wait is this a meme I don't know about ? D:
@@NumidiaWoW jimmy the world of Warcraft story.
THIS is the content I want to see on my recommended feed. You got my sub!
Thank you I appreciate it
Solve the inflation? Ban the bots and nerf the insane gold making methods. In classic this translates to trib farm, boosting etc etc
boosting is a symptom. when people can gold farm on a hunter for an hour, and pay a mage to boost their alts for 10 levels from that... ur gonna have that. hell, i mainly farm firewater n jujus n have paid to get my last 2 alts boosted.
the problem is people buying gold from farm-bots. i have seen CTS go for over 20k gold in gbid runs... yea, sorry, but there is no way (except the 1 guy on my server ALWAYS selling DMT) that was farmed legit. if prices are super inflated cause enough people have enough gold to throw around.. yea, il take their gold for my goods or mage services, and respend it on boosts
@@Max-hw7xl boosting is not a symptom, it's what drives the gold market. if you weren't able to get boosted you'd have far less incentive in buying gold from gold farmers. as you said it yourself, you farmed up the gold for boosts. if boosts werent viable, you'd have nothing to spend that gold on and you definitely wouldn't have the incentive to buy gold from gold farmers.
@@ivoivic2448 the incentive to buy gold comes with raiding naxx. Almost everyone buys gold. Someone dropping 10k gold for an onslaught girdle in MC proved to me that the richest players just bought or botted their fortunes.
Ban bots, nerf gold farming, introduce sated debuff to drums of war. Easy TBC fix.
Wrath: "Bring the player, not the class!". TBC: "Bring the player and the class!"
Vanilla: Don’t bring knights or owls
Aka bring everything but rogues and warriors that try to dps lmao
I recommend you all watch the classic story of jimmi the gnome who lost his best friend because of this choice
All about the epics baby EPICS
Oh my god you just brought back a flood of memories 😂😂😂
Charging up my fireball
I honestly had little to no interest in playing Classic itself when it was announced. However, this one possibility, right here, is the reason I was ecstatic for Classic's announcement. It'd give me the chance to experience Burning Crusade again. I cannot wait to level a warlock through that expansion again. Tailoring/Enchanting for my Shadowweave/Spellstrike set.
Draemei Shaman for me. Enhancement to 40 and then respec to resto, like I did back then. And this was back in the day when resto could still do some proper damage, though nowhere near as well as an enhancement shaman.
In my opinion classic is good. But TBC is great. It is the refinement, the polish, of what classic should have been.
Lol I'm doing rhe exact same thing
When we are up to classic WoD i cant wait for Classic Vanilla
as a someone who used to play healing priest, a word of advice:
Make two banking alts, one for herbs other for leather. Pick up herbalism and skinning as lvling professions. send herbs to one banking alt, send leather to another. Once u lvl cap it. drop skinning and pick up alchemy. Send over all those herbs back and lvl alchemy up until u can craft healers alchemy stone trinket. Ull be using that trinket with blue dragon card for quite a while until u get lucky to actually get some end game trinkets from raids. When u get alchemy stone and enough stockpiled primal lifes, drop herbalism and pick up tailoring. Use all those cloths u saved while lvling and primal lifes u got from herbalism to craft healing robe set with healing enchantments etc. At this point if u upgrade ur robes to something that is better than craftable healing set, drop tailoring and pick up leatherworking. Or if u find better healing trinket then alchemy stone, drop alchemy and pick up leatherworking. LW is gonna be essential to crafting drums of speed for endgame raids. gl.
......what? Lol
Pick the faction you like, going with either is not a mistake as neither faction will make or break your character
Absolutely.
"Karazhan; it's a very easy and quick raid."
Lies and heresy.
Yeah, in the start before people are overgeared kara will take about 3 hours to complete on average. Huge raid with tons of trash to clear.
I also dont remember being it that easy and such. I dont know how they are throwing those words like that.
It's easy but not so quick, just walking through it takes 30 mins or so.
Yeah idk what he's on about this shit is pre nerf, get ready to wipe on moroes and curator for 4 hours a piece lol
@@caretheis6779 i get hate all the time from my guildies but i hated kara, i was doing it with a guild that had cleared naxx so most had a lot of t3. Kara loot was shit, organising 4 grps of 10 annoying we walked over everything upto Kael'T. Most naxx loot is better than all t4 and t5 in some cases, even pre-nerf it will be a blood bath just to gear your pallies/shammies. Kara was always and will always be a chore for me
I always picked Scryers because their inn was closer to the flight path. Couldn't get out of the Shattrath lag zone fast enough.
This man’s a lazy genius
Also if you fucked up and fell off the elavator you didn't die... Aldor Rise is higher... Learn From My Fail
Another way to grind rep if you don't have a reliable dungeon group is to do Ethereum Jailers in Netherstorm. They drop keys to prisons that release NPCs that give reputation for several factions including Sporeggar. They can also spawn monsters that you kill for items that give Consortium rep.
In terms of the gold inflation, I kinda hope that they will give the option of completely fresh servers for people who weren't interested in classic or just want a fresh start. I think there should be transfer servers too obviously, just a choice so that there is a clear reset option if people want it.
So much Knothide Leather farmed......but worth it. The dungeon instance attunement, getting the keys to unlock Heroic's and certian raids. TBC was
my bae.
#1 = 1:15 - Professions
#2 = 3:55 - Quest Reward Choices
#3 = 5:15 - Kara Attunement
#4 = 6:15 - Dungeon Rep Farms
#5 - 8:37 - Aldor or Scryers
#6 - 10:20 - Pick a Class You Love
#7 - 12:25 - Save Gold in Classic starting right meow
TL;DW: Pick a class, research it to death before launch. GG
9:51 You are missing out the "Shattered Sun Pendant of Acumen" sold at Isle of Quel'Danas, which is by far best in slot for all casters, but only if you are an Aldor.
In PvE 👍
Here from Kargoz stream man. Been following for years and he go me to start streaming with HC and diving deep into WoW, always been a fan nev had a chance to play. I dont know much but what I've picked up getting my 1st ever 60 as an HC Warrior, I'm at 32 rn, and I wanna play the shi okt of tbc, this will help me a lot thank you
Glad this helps man, thanks for the comment and good luck on your TBC adventures !
@@NumidiaWoW thanks man, you stream on twitch as well right? I'll be visiting you on there real soon as well >:)
On the Classic professions: Not entirely accurate. For example: Bloodvine. The Tailoring Bloodvineset gives you bonus crit but ONLY if you are a tailor. This is essencially like the Spellstrike set from TBC.
Plus the epic robes for each cloth class (robe of the void, archmage, and truefaith). These are BOP epic craftables very much like Spellstrike.
@@mattd923 Spellstrike is not BoP.
A more fit comparison would be Spellfire, Frozen Shadowweave and Primal Mooncloth.
@@bass-dc9175 Yeah, you're right, I mixed up the names. Bloodvine is like spellstrike and Robe of the Archmage is like Spellfire (Which was BOP during BC but no longer is?).
@@mattd923 "like Spellfire (Which was BOP during BC but no longer is?)."
Huh honestly did not know that they changed it.
Yeah during TBC, the Special-Tailoring Sets where BoP. Interesting to know that they changed it. Probably to help tailors make money through selling it to transmog guys.
honestly far more excited for TBC than i was for classic. TBC is where i came into the game and had so much more to do.
Oh man, that Karazhan music always brings back memories
Glad you liked it that was the intention :p
I'm hoping they offer a couple fresh TBC servers for those that either didn't play vanilla classic or don't want to deal with the crazy economy from gold and item hoarders. Also it will help the new shammys and pallys not feel light years behind at the start.
What will you choose?
Aldorks, or Scrybabies?
tbc had so much outside of raids and it wasnt that bad to do either. you had your clear goal and afterwards it was done. I loved the way it let you work towards all those raids. the shattrat factions were great as well even though I will always go for the dranei one.
Yeah just the dailies for Netherwing are gonna be something that will keep you busy for hours everyday, It's gonna be great !
@@NumidiaWoW yeah but even outside of dailies. Professions, rep, those faction (its mindblowing that blizzard managed to do something better 13 years ago), arena and so on and on. Even getting the key for kara keeps you bussy for long if you are not a hardcore player. Its the perfect expansion for people like me
Re. farming rep for Revered I'd like to suggest modified approach as I think that Rep gain is level relevant:
- farm Hellfire Citadel til Honored, 0 or minimal quests.
- farm Slave Pens and Underbog til Honored
- punch all quests for these two factions.
I reached as test run both keys at level 66 mage. Probably can be done better.
Some guy farms 10k only to find out that they bring tbc on a fresh sever with o gold transferred.
tbc isnt going fresh server though thats the thing, if you wanna keep playing classic as 60 cap you gotta like soft copy the toon onto a nilla classic server
The problem is the gold buyers with goldcap, a lot of them.
On the points of rep with CE, you can buy unidentified plant parts, usually very cheap, and get the initial rep that way as well. You could also just use them to supplement the rep you're farming in UB/SP. Blade's Edge also has quite a few quests that reward CE rep. Saving the quests till 70 also isn't really necessary, as soon as you hit Honored you can do them if you want to. Saving them for 70 just adds the bonus gold from the XP conversion but if all you care about is rep+xp then you should probably do HFP dungeon farm -> HFP quests -> ZGM dungeon farm + plant parts turnin -> ZGM quests. I'd recommend anyone serious about leveling with this method to check up on which questlines/questhubs actually reward the relevant reps, as there are many exodar quests in HFP and ZGM for example and these obviously don't need to be saved until honored.
“Very easy and quick raid”
My man have you been in Kara in pre raid gear as a fresh server .
You mean you’ll be in there for 5 hrs minimum first few times .
well you dont need Kharazan Attunement. There is behind Kharazan tower some ruins where missing texture where you drop Under the Kharazan tower, (more like Easter Egg alias Smile face under Kharazan) then you can enter the Karazan Raid portal from behind.
that doesn't work until the Sunwell patch, when all the attunement requirements were removed. You MUST have the key on your person to enter the portal.
I can’t wait for tbc. I will love this forever. Thanks for this. Awesome
Join the hype train !
maybe not a reset but a cap for how much you can take to TBC, maybe like 5k or something.
This is killing me... when the game was new... when vanilla was retail... we took all our shit through the dark portal... the Classic run of this game should be no different.
i just saw the vid and thought you are a huge wow youtube cause youre quality is rly good keep doing man nice job !
Hahaha thanks man I appreciate it !
Oh shit, me too
Tbc was the best healing and most fun as a Druid healer and Paladin tank. Man it was fun. Paladins didn’t have a direct taunt but you could easily bubble others and you create a macro that you could create . Man they where fun.. hard to gear, but a ton of fun. But I like the harder tasks.
I remember when BC launched back in the day, it was my favorite expansion. It's the reason I just started playing WoW again, when they said they were bringing BC to Classic I jumped right in. The only problem I have is none of those I ran with from vanilla launch to 2009 play anymore and so far the only people that I've grouped with were trash
Thank you for useful tips. TBC has my favourite aesthetics and with all the class changes I'm really exicted, especialy as PvP player. I haven't gotten the oppurunity to play it when it was out though so I'm glad I found this video to help.
1:25 You show recipies, which eventually drop in Sunwell. When launching TBC, there is no real usage for juwelcrafting, other then gems (which are not soulbound). So I highly recommend to take any other profession on launch date.
#YesChanges. Nerf the haste Drums of War gives or allow it to be used without Leather Working.
I like having engineering in classic because it gives a bunch of different useful items. I do not want to lock out one of my professions for ONE SINGLE item. Priests do not need leatherworking.
Absolutely, the best solution I think would be to make Drums give the exhaustion debuff like they did later on in wrath.
Has Blizzard already announced a Classic TBC in the future? Or are you just getting a head start for if they do?
It's not officially confirmed but it is pretty much is a certainty.
Blizzard Polling players on TBC : www.wowhead.com/news=311753/classic-burning-crusade-character-creation-survey-sent-by-blizzard
A respected source that has connections with Blizzard confirming it : twitter.com/nanonost/status/1303392668765085697?lang=en
The Beta for Classic being restarted again : classic.wowhead.com/news=318714/classic-beta-back-to-the-battle-net-catalog-classic-tbc-soon
So many players are hyped at this moment because it's imminent and Blizzard will have an online event in a month I believe where they will probably announce TBC there.
@@NumidiaWoW Ah, I see. Great to hear, and thanks for responding.
Congrats on 1000 subs, mate! Your videos are so professionally made, love the work!
Thanks a ton! I appreciate it.
Pay attention to stats. I couldn't get a good tanking shield pre-kara, so I ground out some honor and picked up the PvP shield, which had a TON of armor and stam.
But it also had resilience, which helps tanks be crit-immune.
Hey what happens if I craft the Primal Mooncloth Set for my paladin and then I unlearn tailoring??? Do I keep the set with all stats or not because the set requires Mooncloth Tailoring and level 70??
I just tested that on my own private server and as soon as I unlearned tailoring and relogged the items were literally removed from me and mailed to me. I can't equip the items without tailoring and mooncloth spec.
@@NumidiaWoW Thx for this information. I was not sure about it because of WoW Classic. E.g. the pvp set. you only need a certain rank to buy this. after you lost the pvp rank, you are able to equip and unequip the stuff. I thought it's the same. Thank you very much !!! ;))
ahhh good old times playing tankadin without having to gimick, and ret paladin could be somewhat viable (even if you where sometimes a +2% bonus for damage for the rest of party)
ikr? My guild was against me tanking (as a paladin), but after I did a few runs that made otherwhise difficult heroics and ae tanking in general a breeze, they changed their midn.
@@sebastianpetersen5694 i was mosty referring to blessing of king threat generation that classic paladin tanks do in current classic.
Tankadin is great in TBC but you needs to really learn how to manage your mana
I'm a hunter player, I have played hunter for the most part since vanilla. one of the few times I did switch, was oddly enough in tbc, where I switched to rogue, what a mistake, Hunters were OP were rogue sucked. I only play Warlock for PvP, because its really fun. Elemental shaman is also very fun, all tese classes just happen to be very useful too. So this time artound, I will not be switching to rogue, but stay hunter and level a warlock for PvP
Best choice ever, just play what you love playing because if you force yourself to play something that performs good but that you don't necessarily enjoy you're just not going to have fun because your class is the scope through which you see the game and if you don't enjoy it you won't enjoy the game !
There's always classic tbc where you and all the classic warriors can reroll the fotm classes.
Hi,
I believe it makes no sense to make a gold cap. How would you value in Items, like Black Lotus or Edgemaster?
If they want to stop the inflation, they have to add services into the game, which are useful more than once and cost a bunch of gold. Like Expboost, that you use instead of instance boosting or so.
Best regards
Wiwicas
Yeah if you're gonna cap gold then you need to cap resources, then if you cap resources you need to cap people with tons of profession alts, and then if you delete profession alts how do you tell a profession alt from a legitimate alt that someone has ? It's a big can of worm :p
Or something that helps in pve maybe some buffs that you can buy for gold from an npc but that wouldnt be original thc anymore thats the problem but i think an economy reset before tbc will help a bit for the reason that not everybody is able to get flying mount instant on lvl 70 even that guys that know how to make gold will need some time cause not everybody has gold to buy items from the
auctioneer but after that i dont see a way to make the economy better maybe just buy souldbound mats dont know
@@Anininas Yeah, Gold for soulbound Ressources, maybe it could be a way...
So trade rng farming to goldfarming ... difficult topic!
@@wiwicas5773 it realy is yeah
The issue is making gold with 100k gold, which players have is much easier than a player with 2k gold
Awesome video dude! I really agree with point number 6. I played a warlock alt in TBC when it originally came out because they were OMGLEET....but years later I find that 1 button specs are boring AF. I learned that lesson with Classic in playing a mage because I wanted to have a strong class with good quality of life and could make gold easily.....except the 1 button raid meta.....ZZzzZZZzzz. Going to play a class with a playstyle I like this time around.
Thank you I appreciate it ! And yeah totally playing something you don't enjoy playing will just kill your enjoyment for the game so play what you want to play, and TBC is probably the expansion that will punish you the least for playing what you like !
A gold reset would never work because you can just spend all your gold in the AH on consumables or crafting material and sell it after the reset again. Or even straight fill your bankalts with grey/white weapons that sell for a lot of gold at vendors after the reset.
Imagine this: runecloth sells at the AH for 10 silver and goes at the vendor for 7 silver (these are imaginary numbers but you get the point). You can convert 1000 gold to 700 gold just by vendoring said material at vendors after the reset.
only soulbound items would transfer into tbc. problem solved.
So i just saw 2 videos from u in a row, somehow no idea how it just played next.
and sir i have to say, here u go Subscribed!
hope to see more from u while the TBC classic hype rises, (and yes i wanna go back to the glory days even tho i skipped Classic because i had to do my service.)
Blizzard needs to commit staffing to the game to fix the econ. We need constant bans of bots by active gms to fix the economy issue
There's a player on my server who has been the same lvl for 4 months .A Druid lvl 44 ,He farms the shellfish in Desolace at all hours. I think he may be a gold farmer.
Nice to see ve'nari has a TH-cam channel now
POG I love Ve'nari
First of all, great video :).
Regarding the gold topic. I think there is a really big difference by resetting the economy or going into TBC with a fundamentally broken economy. Think about it, 5000g for the epic flying was a huge amount of gold in TBC and will still be that at launch of tbc classic in the case of a reset. Gold makers will definitely catch up eventually but it will take some time and this will still leave a chance to fix the problem.
If we don't reset, 5k gold is nothing. Ppl are sitting on hundreds of thousands of gold and letting this in from the start will ensure that Classic TBC economy will be irreparably broken from the start.
I completely get the point of ppl who have spent months preparing gold for TBC but I really don't think it would be in the best interest of TBC to allow this in freely.
What exactly is the reason to go Aldor as a shadow priest?
Mainly for the enchants, which as I said have very small power difference, Aldor sells +spell damage and Scryers sells +spell crit, and spell damage is generally better for Shadow priests.
So hyped for TBC classic, and very useful vid!
But it sadens me to think most people will now follow this meta way of levelling for rep rather then just playing normally...
Red for melee and blue for ranged basically
My class tier for PvE : Tier 0 > Tier 1 > Tier 2 > Tier 3
Tier 0: BM Hunter, Warlock (DPS Affliction First then Destruction when you get T5 gears), Restoration Shaman
Tier 1: Rogue (AZ=must), Holy Pally, Holy Priest, Prot Warrior, Feral Druid, MM Hunter, Restoration Druid
Tier 2: Prot Pally, Elemental/Enhancement Shaman, Mage, Fury Warrior (Don' t play if you can' t get legendary AZ).
Tier 3: Survival Hunter, Ret Pally, Discipline Priest/Shadow Priest, Arms Warrior, Balance Druid
Shadow priests are essential for raids and are R1 viable in 2s and 3s lol
@@Leerill More like an utility build for the group, it's like Ret pally, but don' t expect the group leader will have more than 1 shadow priest/Ret pally because these two class still can' t have decent DPS like BM hunter, Warlock or AZ rogue.
Tossed you a sub. Cool video
Thank you I appreciate it !
"your class is how you experience the game, all the way through raiding and pvp"
As a retail Frost dk i felt that, Wrath classic cant come soon enough.
Haha I feel you, just stick to what you like otherwise you're just not going to enjoy the game if you play something you don't like.
@Brian nice insult bro, have i done you wrong in a past life?
Retail Unholy DK and I just can’t get into it until Classic wrath 😂
I think that a lot of people who makes guides forget that a lot of us don't come here because we want the best of the best, but because we're afraid we might make a mistake in our choices. It's so nice hearing the whole "play what you enjoy, not what is good", because it soothes the anxiety of making wrong choices, while actually letting us enjoy our time more with the game. Many of us treat the guides as voices of authority, so it really matters what we hear, hence why so many more people rolled warrior and mage in classic compared to vanilla. I think some people would actually have enjoyed the game more if they heard that chosing what's fun is okay, rather than "you need to go this spec, and use these consumables, and get these world buffs".
When I first started playing classic (having never played vanilla and knowing nothing), I picked priest because it was the best healer, but by level 45 I simply quit the game. I just wasn't having fun. So I just sort of gave up and decided to level a druid because I knew they were faster levelers, and figured I would at least get to 60 then. Now I have two level 60 druids and I'm so passionate about my class despite it being subpar in many regards, because it's just the class I have the most fun with by far.
So thank you for telling us what really matters. Fun.
The problem is that's it not very fun playing a class that gets benched all the time :(
Very true :p Love your content by the way Charlie keep it up !
Do you have your ui uploaded somewhere?
If you mean my ElvUI profile here it is : wago.io/4SH-f_FDc
What will you wow classic players do when your up to wow classic bfa?
itll have to stop at wotlk or maybe cata
One possible solution for the drums would be to remove the LW requirement so anyone can use them. I'm surprised there was no mention of Bloodlust rotations and shaman stacking. That became a big deal in Sunwell.
when I was play TBC I have the main rouge human and I do raid and dungeon it is a struggle and difficult and the start but it's the end game I enjoyed the experience. In my opinion, play the game and enjoy the journey don't try to high perform
About the economy.... : Resset will help alot, cause like u said they need to do it AGAIN ( it also could help classic economy if blizz annouces it right now somethin like: U ll get 10% of your money ) How to stop breakin economy again? Blizz should probably aim for the highest income strategise and thats boostin ( and it ll be far far bigger in TBC ) So how u can stop or slow boostin proces so it shouldnt be so efective as money tool? Lower the entrances pre hour or set minimum level for entrance as high as that player is able to do somethin in it or make lvl range for entrance ( prob easiest and cleanest way ) but in this scenario it should be chance to go thru it ( forget q or pre raid bis )
Thanks for the info bud! Gotta stay prepared.
Anytime !
To answer your question about inflation, the best way is to remove gold from the market. Usually this is done through gold sinks such as the 5k flying mount, repair bills, etc. Another thing Blizzard could do is to start banning the people who buy gold. Not just on their throw away accounts but on their main. Not only would this reduce the amount of gold in circulation but it would also reduce demand for gold (From gold farmers) as those players will be less likely to buy gold in the future (though they might pay for level boosting). With less interest in the farming market, farmers will either have to charge less for gold or downsize, the latter of which will reduce gold in circulation even more. With less gold in circulation things like the epic flying mount will be a more effective gold sink as normal players will not be able to sell items for high prices like when gold was in circulation and the economy will slow down.
I want to touch on 2 things regarding "Play the class/spec you want" Most people are talking about how 'useless' ret paladin was.
*Ret paladin's* dps was hard to do (even though a one button macro actually did maximize its dps). The reason? CORRECT gear. People saw warriors and went "let's put strength or attack power leather gear on.". Yeah! that works! Retadins is a different game. Outside tier armor, the gear isn't exactly itemized great for them. Since they need both STrength AND intellect. So very few plate pieces that aren't tier gear do that. So what did you need? PVP gear. PVP gear filled out the rest of the slots very nicely except for a few places where you could find Druid gear leather (Str/agi/Int). So they only scaled WELL once they had a lot of the correct stats. Don't really need to bother with attack power since a lot of their damage... wasn't based on attack power. For instance, Seal of Command was NOT affected by attack power, but simply the damage your weapon did. Tehre is no damage difference on it when naked with a two hander and fully t6 geared with that same two hander. But having the mana to keep it up is important. Same thing with Crusader strike, attack power did not affect its damage. But you still needed mana to keep it going. Furthermore, pvp gloves increased its damage further, so tier everything but gloves and then pvp gloves gave them a good dps boost.
Their dps would still be on the lower end, but what they do bring besides, a lot of buffs and a lot of buffs prot and holy can't bring. the 3% extra crit damage against its target being a raidwide buff essentially is on its own useful to have ONE ret paladin (and then sanctity aura was worth it if paired with a prot paladin's group)
*survival hunter* I remember in tbc days, most people wanted BM because "It does more damage". Well, selfish nancy's, every group should be DEMANDING a survival hunter. Survival hunters wanted agility+ gear over Attack power+ gear, because they had that expose weakness debuff where 33% of their agi gets added to attack power to ALL physical damage dealers in the RAID (not party) against that target, and this was one of the biggest potential damage boosts, and only survival had it. Why raids skipped this I'll never know. "but my damage is a little better as BM" yeah, but EVERYONE'S damage is a lot better if you're survival. But, you only wanted one survival hunter. there was no point in having two.
Very good video, thanx for doing it!
My pleasure!
I just want to start classic now to lvl a Charakter to be rdy for tbc what so say will be great for pvp and pve dps ? I thought about hunter but saw some vids they say hunter is not so good in pvp... so i am not sure right now
I actually don't know anything about PvP so if that's a big factor to you I don't want to suggest you something that would end up being shit :p But I can suggest you to go and ask people on the Atlantis Karazhan Discord, it's a private server and there's a lot of cool dudes right there and they are playing the game right now so that's the best legitimate advice you can get I think.
@@NumidiaWoW Thank you for the quick answer man
@@Anininas hunter is op in battle grounds, doesn't fit it so well in 2s comp but you can find a group for 3s but it bgs and raids you are a king. Play hunter and enjoy it, fk whatever anyone says
@@simmot5213 thank you bro
Warlock is probably the best when it comes to being good in pvp and pve. Rogues and DPS warriors will be in low demand for raids but they're still amazing in PvP. Just pick whatever you enjoy,. Like he says in the video, TBC is really good at finding a place for every class/spec.
Very informative video - great content my guy, liked and subscribed.
I didn't play classic, I need advice, should I just wait for TBC Incase they let you start at lvl 58?
They probably won't, most likely they will allow everyone to keep their level 60 characters as they are, but I could be wrong on that. I suggest you start levelling something you like now :p
@@NumidiaWoW thanks for reply. I know in a survey they asked about it, and one option was to start at lvl 58. Don't you think they are missing a lot of potential customers who just want to play TBC?
@@stillnotchill2560 Again I could be wrong on this but I think the majority of players that will play TBC are currently playing Classic now or have played Classic for a while most of them having reached level 60 already, and the number of players that are only interested in TBC to the point where they didn't even touch or didn't reach level 60 in Classic represents a very small minority. For this reason I think they will go for the option to move the characters as they are into TBC and not reset everything.
Again I could be completely wrong on this, I'm basing this on the fact that there's many many people I play with that tell me that they prefer TBC to vanilla but they are still playing Vanilla because it's still cool.
A gold reset helps - but you'd also have to get rid of stuff in banks that could sell for a lot
if they reset the gold.. what is the most expensive item that you can sell afterwards and keep most of your gold?
Righteous orbs will be used in TBC, since the crusader enchant is still viable.
What happend to warmane tbc server Outland 😢😢😢
You forgot to mention that the Aldor / Scryers choice influences the Quel Danas necklace in patch 2.4.
Scryers hunters/melee dps will basically be screwed because the Aldor AP proc of that necklace at exalted is MUCH better. That's late in the game, but still...
I'm still torn between rolling pally or hunter, I like both but I feel like hunter will have an easier time of getting into raid groups. I've got a capped warrior and hunter on Classic, and it's hard to ever get groups on the warrior just because there's sooo many warriors running around Classic.
if u play horde everyone will want paladins in their groups , at least thats how it was for me back in the day .
You always need a lot of pallies to cover all the blessings and you always need a lot of hunters because they just do the best DPS, so just choose whichever you enjoy playing the most in my opinion.
There will be a demand for pallys, especially on alliance where a lot of people will be switching to shaman. On horde I predict there will be an absolute shit ton of blood elf pallys running around.
Hunters is literally the new warrior for tbc, every warrior fotm rerolling noob will go hunter for tbc because they heard it was OP with the one button rotation (that is guaranteed to not work in classic tbc btw).
change drums? sounds like guilds that still demand all WB to go do MC after clearing MC a month after launch will do this mess agin
hey man, do you think shockadins will be a thing in bc? Thx
Cant i just choose both Aldor AND scryers?
No, but you can pick one, level it all the way, and then drop out for the other I believe
10k gold dosent happend over night tho. That is something peoples have accumulated of months and month of play. So yes an economy reset would make the launch and severals month moving forward a better experience.
If they told us they were resetting gold, someone with 10k gold would just buy 10k worth of mats off AH, then sell them again in TBC. Might take a couple days to sell but they'd have 10k+ in a couple days again. It would be annoying and that's about all.
I wish TBC would be its own seperate thing from classic (i know it wont be). If you want to play at release you can either import a character from classic (no gold only items) and continue that characters journey or make a new one that starts at 60 except for alliance shaman and horde paladins.
please mak that video where you explain which class or spec should pick wich i would love that!
Superb video, I was young back in the days of TBC so very useful for me to have all these remains :)
Glad you enjoyed it And thank you I really appreciate it.
On the gold subject i dont think it should be an entire economy wipe. But maybe a gold cap on transferring toons/accounts to not discourage new players from joining tbc
So once we play through classic wrath will people be crying again for classic classic?
I dont know about that, but when people start crying for classic WoD im tapping out...
@@Mccaid lmfao
I AGREE
I 2 Agree!
Yo any spectral tigers ?
Old People made less mistakes back then because going from level 55 to level 60 took me average 3 days . And each quest was thoroughly scanned upon online, each thing crossed checked so it would make things smooth in future.
I always used to think why wow has windowed mode, but the amount if times we used thottbot for nearly every second quest was the answer.
I would set an account gold cap of 6 or 7K for entry into TBC. Why? Because it maximizes the relative starting point for average players while minimizing existing gold farmer advantages.
I don't completely agree with your recommended leveling/rep farm method.
High level (normal) dungeons give more rep and you'll be farming them anyway for gear as their loot tables remain mostly unchanged, with heroics only adding badges and epic gems. Personally I prefer going capping level first.
What I like doing instead is buying/farming [Unidentified Plant Parts] and turn them in until Honored (for Cenarion Expedition).
Same thing with [Arakkoa Feathers] and Lower City rep.
The raids are gonna be pre nerf, that means Kara is going to be extremely difficult compared to it's post nerf counterpart, just moroes is practically impossible depending on what randomized named npcs are around him.
I clearly remember very few guys farming their asses off and having epic flight as soon as they hit 70. It didn't affect my life then and it won't affect my life now
Mind you for #4, There's no "show lower level quests" in TBC. That came in Wrath. So if you're going to ding 70 without doing any of the HFP/Zangar quests, you're gonna need some help from a quest addon.
i'm a druid main (feral over other specs) and i will have LW, but i absolutely hate drums of battle or war.
1) if you add the exhaust debuff, then you have to add the same debuff on the other drums too. the problem with that approach is that if you're in BGs or open world with someone in your party and you need, for example drums of speed to escape from someone and your party member activates their drums of battle, you cannot activate the drums you need.
2) if you make the buff raid-wise, you're essentially nerfing the entire content right from the get-go and it's inconsistent with how every other buff in TBC works (they are all party-wide)
3) maybe by making drums of battle BOE we could fix the issue. however, that's essentially the same as nerfing the entire content straight from the get-go, but as we know it, hardcore guilds will demand LW on at least 20 people, so it might be a viable option as it reduces the gap between the hardcore guilds and everyone else - and that's always a good thing to do.
the biggest issue with drums of battle is that it grants a scaling power boost (5% haste). drums of war for example, grant 60 AP and 35 SP and while that may seem equally as bad, keep in mind that when SWP gets released, the 5% haste holds a MUCH higher value than 60 AP or 35 SP. i can only see this issue resolved by them reworking the drums of battle or just removing them altogether.
about the gold - there MUST be a cap (like 100-200g) so the economy stays healthy for as long as possible. gold matters on TBC far more than it matters on classic and transferring the entire character with 200k gold would destroy the entire expansion right from the start. it's the reason why i would prefer a few level 1 realms without transferred characters for TBC.
The issue with "some" fresh servers is that they would split the player base. Whatever they decide to do, everyone should be affected equally imo
@@holysecret2 and by not releasing fresh servers they'll do the exact same thing. players who just wanted to play TBC without any handicap, without inflated economy and without being forced into an environment with people that are 60 levels ahead of them. not to mention realm firsts. i don't care about that, but it's a fun race/event to watch while leveling or doing something. personally, i hate vanilla and the classic in general. i played it and it sucked for me on many levels. with no option for a fresh (level 1 only) realm, i'd feel forced to level up at least one of my 3 characters on classic or i'd be in a huge handicap starting at level 1. not to mention getting ganked and griefed much earlier than it should ever be the case - that wasn't the case on the original TBC release, since the entire continent was new and everyone wanted to explore it for themselves. nowadays, everyone know basically everything about 60-70 content and it's not the same experience as it was 10-15 years ago
"Don't pick a class based on performance" .... THAT'S RIGHT!!