I learned about a family that perished in the titanic. Mother, father, and 6 children. I would have never known their story or their life if it wasn’t for learning about the titanic. I think we should save as much as we possibly can to preserve the memory of what happened and their memory. A book isn’t as interesting as a physical piece you can see at a museum.
On Wilhelm Gustloff shiff died 9000 people just 20 years after titanic and general public doesn't even know about it even if was the biggest human loss at sea.. there's no museum for that. I say titanic should remain where is it now.
I read that they actually found the area where that big piece came from. They researched it and found it came from an empty cabin. So they check to make sure where they are taking isn't where someone died. They want to recover the Radio Equipment before the collapse. I'm all for them doing it. That stiff should be seen as it's a piece of history.
How can you stand this guy. He can’t pronounce anything and he smacks his lips constantly. He even started the video by smacking his lips. he’s so unprofessional.
@@liamgames4575 Nothing is disrespectful. They should be able to take whatever they like before it’s gone forever. they are dead. they are in the afterlife and i’m a better place than us. Bring up whatever they can and make us all happy on this cesspit of a rock
@@paulwoodford1984 Oh so you’re okay with grave robbing then? Because that’s what it is. I have no issue with them bringing up items and pieces of the titanic up, but it’s a different thing when people speak of bring up dead peoples shoes from where their bodies once were.
It is crazy how bad the ship has gotten since we first saw that back in 1985. It is truly looking like a haunted ghost ship now, with all those metal eating lifeforms all over it. I know it is going to collapse sooner than later; they didn't think that back in 1985, but, it is going to go. I wonder how much should be taken given that it is a large graveyard in essence. However, there is also some fascinating history to save.
I don't get all the handwringing about how 'we shouldn't touch a gravesite'. How do people think we get most of our archaeological data on past societies?
Because it’s a grave site I would say it’s a bit of a touchy subject. How getting a sub drone and mapping out the interior I think would be a middle ground option
If you go into a graveyard with graves 200+ years old or more, especially in wet areas with acidic soil, those remains are long gone also - but it doesn’t make it any less a graveyard.
@@harrymonk6 totally different scenario and destination. For one ground zero was easy to get to where as Titanic lays two and a half miles below the surface. They cleared up ground zero so they could lay a monument to all of those lost. Titanic is the monument for all that lost their lives that night and not a playground for bored rich people.
Did it have a low vibration feel to it? There was a lifeboat davit when I went to Atlantic city around 1999 or so. They let you touch it. Me and the guy I was with touched it and we both felt this low vibration coming from within it. It was very eerie. They had the big piece there, but was in process of being preserved. However, we could look at it. I had someone tell me the vibration was likely something to do with the depth it was at for so long, but they weren't some expert on it. I like to think the vibration was the electromagnetic soul of the ship. I almost had that "never washing my hands again" moment lol. OMG I touched the Titanic!
I like to think that in a hundred years from now our tech will be so advanced that we can easily go down and salvage smaller bits of what's left of this wreck.
It’s being eaten away, there will be nothing left, just the marine life that replaced it. It’s the whole purpose for discussion about raising what can be saved. There’s not much time
@@creatrixZBD I did say "what was left" and by that I mean what materials will not degrade and decompose so easily. Like certain metal bits and ceramics. There will be trinkets down there as well as small little bits of the ship's structure. But trust me, I know that a huge percentage of the ship itself will rot away which is unfortunate. But there will be those tiny little bits that will last some centuries yet. Think about the weird clock-like mechanism they managed to recover from some old Roman vessel... I forgot what they called it but it apparently was used to chart the stars or something. I think they nicknamed it the Ancient Computer"
Sorry but in 100 years time the titanic will be long gone. However their will still be a debris field which have plates and bottles and anything not made of metal
if the titanic haven't sunk, it would of been scrapped and forgotten, just like the Olympic. this sinking to the bottom has prolong her life to this day.
i think the bow section is the best part to salvage as it partial broken off from the rest of the ship. and the part that is in the mud is posible i better shape then the restof the ship to be able to survive the salvage operation
I'd like them to bring up bunches of the rusticles. Many have broken off and are laying everywhere. Preserve them and sell to help fund the museums. I'd love a section of 1 to go with my lil pieces of coal they collected from the debris field. I say bring up as many things as they can. But the shoes laying together in a way a body may have once been there, leave them alone. I wish there was a technology that could remove the sediment of the starboard bow so we can see iceberg damage. It's probably pristine under there, no rusticles.
I have seen hundreds of photos of images in the bow and every time i see it again and again i always see stuff i have never seen before. Its like you could watch images and videos of the titanic every day for hours a day for over 20 years and you would still see stuff you have never seen before, amazing! What was that long deck at 4.30 that still looked great with the square windows, it showed about 3 decks. One on top that was flat with nothing on it, well it was just a small photo, but it was strange why there wasnt a fence on the top of it and it looked very high up with more decks below but it was to small a photo to see them. And it was 2 or 3 rows with square windows below the top of it A know the ship was big but i didnt know it was this big. And thats just half of it. The stern is just a scrap yard now!
The 3 1/2 story tall engines at the stern section is just “there” just standing tall and brace fully at the bottom of the ocean. I think the U.S. Navy and Canadian Navy and the RAF and British Navy could manageability weld off the the steel installs holding the 3 1/2 story engines and might as well seize the boiler that Dr. Robert Ballard spotted on the with the Argo robot when they located the wreck in 1985. Can you imagine IF they seized those pieces of equipment and potentially start up those pieces of equipment like they did for the whistles from the funnel. It would be MAGNIFICENT 👏🏽🙌🏽🤩🥹
As we all know now, a section of railing at the very bow HAS now fallen off. Also, I think your estimate of the hull collapsing by 2030 is off. We're already at 2024, so that date is only about 5 years away. Most of the experts seem to think the bow section will last a lot longer (although the SUPERSTRUCTURE, which is made of lighter materials, MIGHT fail earlier).
The way I see it, the whole thing about the Titanic being a grave sight. Isn’t there already a memorial site for all the souls that were lost the night the ship sank? If so, would t that be considered the grave sight now? So if that’s the case, by all means, try to bring up as much of the ship as possible. Before she’s completely gone from this world
How about the remnant of the dome over the Aft Grand Staircase as the only major remaining part of either staircase. That is in the debris field. However there are all those pairs of shoes there, which mark where bodies undoubtedly fell. But the flesh & bone is long-gone. I would like to know if there is any of the metalwork of the Bow Grand Staircase at the bottom of the great well. If it broke up the ironwork would have sunk down while the wood floated up. Retrieving the Marconi Wireless sounds like a good idea, we know that both operators got away alive. Everything else is just too big. If the propellers were clear of the silt how the hell would you cut through the shaft and drag the prop out?
Why do they say that the ship would decinigrate if it's brought up, yet things like "the big piece" and the gangway door appear to have been holding up just fine?
The whole grave situation is a bit overrated. Yes many people died there, but if we taking parts in order to preserve history and memory about those who died it is not bad thing to do. If we use it to make money or in other disrespectful way, this is bad and should not be allowed. Also it is not like we will take the ship apart to get what we want. On the other hand. When we tok egipt's mummies out of their tombs it was completly ok. So we either respect the dead and their tombs or not. But not do this when it is convinient and disregard, when it is not.
I would say it’s okay to bring things up, it’s a part of history. Even if it’s a graveyard or not everybody has their own opinion in that, but the fact is it is something people want to see and remember the ship with what could still remain for years to come. Nobody complains when people bring up ww2 personally items from the beaches or concentration camps or bring out war planes from the ocean. So why should the titanic be any different. If I famously died I would want my things to be displayed for me so I can be remembered. People say just let them rest in peace. Well they have for hundreds of years so you’re right, at what point do they decide that it would be better too pull some things out, it will all go to waste over time anyways.
The sub never even made to the wreck so I think the sub dose not count and it was recovred so they can still take some artifacts as long as it's not the boots.
@@redemptionjack4657 oh ok i miss understood, yes maybe for it all goes but i can see both sides, i can see why some people say leave it alone, but we need to save some for history
@lindagoodswin9519 First no harm done and second I fully agree with you. For me it's don't touch the boots escpaclly if they or on the floor (it means it used to be a body). I just hope they get the Marconi machine aka the voice of the titanic sent out the faithfull sos message.
Anchors and propellers forget it those things weigh tons. And to be honest I dont want the Titanic to collapse anytime soon I know its gonna happen but I kinda wish we get a few more years of the wreck the way it is.
What about one of the funnels ?? Must be lighter also than the Propellers.... yes I know they came off on the way down but they must know where they all are ?
Depends how deep they are and what they are made of. They've found ships thousands of years old that are still in good shape. They recently found the Endurance in perfectly preserved shape.
The ships so deceivingly big. When i saw where the grand staircase was that holes huge. I saw a bit jim cameron did on that hole by going down inside it and looking at decks that were huge, i was shocked. As when we always see that same model of the bow it doesnt look as big now, but its not like that. Its still huge, the bow just now is at least 400 feet long and 90 feet high at least. About 150 feet of the ship got lost when it broke in two, so the stern would be about 330 feet long if straitend out. As the ship was 882 feet long. But the stern is a mess. So it would take years to lift the whole ship if it fell apart the right way to get inside it to the decks. I didnt even notice it had lost at least 150 feet when it broke up till about 9 months ago as its too big to notice. Plus buried at least 50 feet into the sea floor. And the stern ended up a mile away. A heard 2 mile then 3.... A hate it when they do the same stuff but just use different words. And they know the people will watch it, as the title of the uploads are always different. Like the titan sub, how far are they going to go with that? Like "now heres the real true truth" "then now what really happend" just to make money
That's a very controversial topic indeed. On the one hand, you have the historically significant wreckage that can be recovered (e.g. the Marconi radio), the lighting fixtures and all that, on the other there's the fact that place is a graveyard and should be left alone. The only question remains: after all these years buried beneath the surface of the ocean, should Titanic's legacy still matter? Don't get me wrong, i love that ship but...we've all seen photos of it, we have documented the wreck itself and the extensive debris field and those will always be there for future generations to study and, maybe, appreciate. Isn't that enough to keep the legacy alive and vivid? Not to mention that trying to recover anything from there would be an extremely complex and expensive operation...
They already bought at least 1 up. I touched it. Low vibration feel coming from within it. They could bring up as many as they can and share among the museums.
@@sourzebra9289 No idea, the exhibit I went to was in 1999 and was temporary. It is likely in 1 of the permanent museums. I have been mostly out of the loop on Titanic stuff in recent years, but the Titan sub got me interested again.
@Titanic19127 why? Material science and mechanical engineering is really the limiting factor here. None of the advancements our era is defined by are really applicable here. Weve made leaps and bounds in things like ai, microprocessing, consumer electronics, battery technology, or rocketry. We don't have carbon nano tubes, silk fiber chords or any of the advancements that would actually be relevant. 2023 isn't futuristic truly, only our experience is.
If you could recover the propellers.....how you gonna get em off...you would have a better chance at recovering a boiler that was thrown free when the ship broke apart
This Ship are so beatyfull i feel sad for all Human died on this ship I think recover some things is good idea to keep the memorys The engines are stuning :) Love this Ship best ship ever
I don't agree with the graveyard complaints. It hasn't been that since shortly after it hit bottom. Any bodies were salsa by the time they settled. I think Titanic is too significant to history to not attempt as much recovery as is feasible. I dearly wish they would recover the Marconi as was once planned.
It is a graveyard however if there's a way to save the ship to immortalize it i think we should. To me it is a memorial even if it's no longer at the ocean floor. I wish we could bring the whole ship up but that's just impossible.
anyone who has taken something from the wreck should be rotting in prison for grave robbery saying it is for preservation is just an excuse so they can say look what I got and the biggest offender is James Camron for taking something from within the wreck
Mabey its just the images dont do the ship justice sbd doesn't look nearly as big but i know the ship broke in half and is sunk but all the pictures have always jot impressed for whatever reason
I think it’s Just a Perspective thing, we can’t get true size looks wise cause all we have are small blips of areas with nothing large beside it, like a entire real photo with a known size Sub etc in the same frame. If that makes sense
I don’t mind the idea of taking stuff from the debris field but physically removing things from the ship just rubs me the wrong way. I get it’s been a long time but there’s just something about it to me.
For me it's the communication machine aka the voice of the titanic that should be taken from inside it is pure history though because of its location I am afraid of the damage it may cause.
yes its because they pretend that it will be gone in 10 years to have an excuse..its pretty obvious.. but footage with state of the art sub drones must be done asap.. i dont care that much for the external view, they also just made it for tressure hunting of the debree field.
Nothing now. Too late. Anyway remember that dream I had. I think it meant to leave it alone. Enough has been robbed already from the grave. They are after getting in to that swimming pool that is sealed. Leave alone. There is enough evedence now, and we have pics and films.
What dream did you have. If you leave the wreck like that and it will get destroyed. Then we will only have photos and films. Once lost always lost. We can save them i feel.
il ne faut pas oublier que le site est considéré comme un cimetière. je ne suis pas d'accord sur le prélèvement d'une petite partie de la coque (même si elle était détachée des sections avant et arrière; Je préfère la reproduction en 3D qu'ils viennent de faire et qui permettra de l'étudier sans l'abimer plus.
I feel like it’s gone long enough. We need to let this ship rest. Let nature take care of it. I know how important it is to preserve history but I believe in getting good footage and documentation of it. Titanic is a thing of a long gone past and all of it and all those moments and memories will be lost in time, like tears in the rain.
iam pro tech sollution and contra recovering. they just should have tiny modern go pro drones with freshly engineered light and laser for the depth and scan every room in the wreck, update it any 10 years with the newest tech, if you watch "back to the titanic" with cameron you realize that even in the full hd documentation of his, he inserted that 360p footage, prooving that there is no better footage yet,what a shame? tech since then got 100 times smaller and better, means we now could get into every chamber. and stop the recovery shit, thats bs. i am very confident that we finally will see a skelleton, deeper in the wreck.
Although the one who made this video thinks it's ok to take things from those who has died. Know this it wasn't approved the things that was taken from titanic. Russians was the first who then sold off. The only ones legally aloud to take from titanic is. Titanic inc who owns the rights to titanic. Still just know your stealing from the dead. Any shoe boot found is from a body that landed on the ocean floor. On April 15th 1912. What should be first done is. All items found should be handed over to a dependent of those who died. If those densendents do not want the items found. Then they can sell it to people who want to buy them. If those densendents decide to donate those items found. Then u can keep it. They won't. However everyone knows titanic items are cursed. I would dare myself to even buy that so called coal. Just to be safe. Many who have bought titanic items have died. Strangely. Yet the person who was left sold those items.
@CaptJerry I'm sorry to say, but yes, it will just look at my generation. Quite a few don't know ww2 or the men who sacrifice their lives for our freedom that is what made me team artifacts.
Stop it. Leave it alone. Why? so you say you can? Or buy it? That’s disgusting. Like robbing a body to show your friends? There are some things that you just don’t do.
Yeah, but some items should be recovred they don't mean the boots they mean the vital parts like the communication machine that should be recovred or else it will be lost and forgotten which is worst.
@ToxicKitteh101 They already have the replica but it does not have the same meaning it is not the "voice" of the Titanic. However I know it may never be recovred becuase of the damage it may cause which would be distrubimg the dead but it is my hope my dream that some how it will. The group who wanted it was going to send it to the Titanic museum. No collecter can maintain it in its state only museums, but As I said, it's a hope and dream it doesn't have to be possible.
If you arent going to actually research the subject matter, don't make a video. The 2030 date has been proven to be inaccurate. Also, PLEASE learn to pronounce promenade. It is not pronounced promidon...
The telemotor is an iconic piece and is still in good condition, if anything should be brought up it should be that.
I learned about a family that perished in the titanic. Mother, father, and 6 children. I would have never known their story or their life if it wasn’t for learning about the titanic. I think we should save as much as we possibly can to preserve the memory of what happened and their memory. A book isn’t as interesting as a physical piece you can see at a museum.
On Wilhelm Gustloff shiff died 9000 people just 20 years after titanic and general public doesn't even know about it even if was the biggest human loss at sea.. there's no museum for that. I say titanic should remain where is it now.
You make a great point 👍🏻 we are learning more about the people on Titanic by learning more about Titanic. I couldn't agree more
@@ileanabica1760yes and it was a war crime as well
I read that they actually found the area where that big piece came from. They researched it and found it came from an empty cabin. So they check to make sure where they are taking isn't where someone died.
They want to recover the Radio Equipment before the collapse. I'm all for them doing it. That stiff should be seen as it's a piece of history.
How can you stand this guy. He can’t pronounce anything and he smacks his lips constantly. He even started the video by smacking his lips. he’s so unprofessional.
Take a shoe from a pair.
@@curious1053That’s extremely disrespectful
@@liamgames4575 Nothing is disrespectful. They should be able to take whatever they like before it’s gone forever. they are dead. they are in the afterlife and i’m a better place than us. Bring up whatever they can and make us all happy on this cesspit of a rock
@@paulwoodford1984 Oh so you’re okay with grave robbing then? Because that’s what it is. I have no issue with them bringing up items and pieces of the titanic up, but it’s a different thing when people speak of bring up dead peoples shoes from where their bodies once were.
It is crazy how bad the ship has gotten since we first saw that back in 1985. It is truly looking like a haunted ghost ship now, with all those metal eating lifeforms all over it. I know it is going to collapse sooner than later; they didn't think that back in 1985, but, it is going to go. I wonder how much should be taken given that it is a large graveyard in essence. However, there is also some fascinating history to save.
I don't get all the handwringing about how 'we shouldn't touch a gravesite'. How do people think we get most of our archaeological data on past societies?
Because it’s a grave site I would say it’s a bit of a touchy subject. How getting a sub drone and mapping out the interior I think would be a middle ground option
But it’s a grave that’s being eaten by that bacteria. As well as the bottom of the Atlantic is not where it was supposed to be.
Would you settle for the Captains Bath tub. You,don’t have to go into the Titanic itself because his bathroom has already collapsed
Its not a graveyard anymore any remains are long gone
If you go into a graveyard with graves 200+ years old or more, especially in wet areas with acidic soil, those remains are long gone also - but it doesn’t make it any less a graveyard.
@@paulbriere4872 it does because of the tombstones
The wreck is the grave and tombstone. It should only be visited for scientific and research purposes, not for people to sightsee.
@@andyfletcher4078 they should of left the twin towers where they fell then . They should just bring up what they can
@@harrymonk6 totally different scenario and destination. For one ground zero was easy to get to where as Titanic lays two and a half miles below the surface. They cleared up ground zero so they could lay a monument to all of those lost.
Titanic is the monument for all that lost their lives that night and not a playground for bored rich people.
I got to touch the big piece. Very surreal.
Also, has any expedition gone down into the cargo holds?
Yup, me too. Touching it was amazing.
Did it have a low vibration feel to it? There was a lifeboat davit when I went to Atlantic city around 1999 or so. They let you touch it. Me and the guy I was with touched it and we both felt this low vibration coming from within it. It was very eerie. They had the big piece there, but was in process of being preserved. However, we could look at it. I had someone tell me the vibration was likely something to do with the depth it was at for so long, but they weren't some expert on it. I like to think the vibration was the electromagnetic soul of the ship. I almost had that "never washing my hands again" moment lol. OMG I touched the Titanic!
I'm really surprised anything survived the impact, the weight and speed alone crashing , must have actually been built pretty good
The railing on the front of the ship looks like a nice piece to get
What about the Captains Bath Tub. You don’t have to go inside of the Titanic. The outer wall has collapsed and it’s easy to get tom
I like to think that in a hundred years from now our tech will be so advanced that we can easily go down and salvage smaller bits of what's left of this wreck.
It’s being eaten away, there will be nothing left, just the marine life that replaced it. It’s the whole purpose for discussion about raising what can be saved. There’s not much time
@@creatrixZBD I did say "what was left" and by that I mean what materials will not degrade and decompose so easily. Like certain metal bits and ceramics. There will be trinkets down there as well as small little bits of the ship's structure.
But trust me, I know that a huge percentage of the ship itself will rot away which is unfortunate. But there will be those tiny little bits that will last some centuries yet.
Think about the weird clock-like mechanism they managed to recover from some old Roman vessel... I forgot what they called it but it apparently was used to chart the stars or something. I think they nicknamed it the Ancient Computer"
@@creatrixZBDIt will take more than 100 years for those huge engines to disappear.
Sorry but in 100 years time the titanic will be long gone. However their will still be a debris field which have plates and bottles and anything not made of metal
@paulchristopher8634 It will take a lot more than 100 years to be "gone".
if the titanic haven't sunk, it would of been scrapped and forgotten, just like the Olympic. this sinking to the bottom has prolong her life to this day.
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i think the bow section is the best part to salvage as it partial broken off from the rest of the ship. and the part that is in the mud is posible i better shape then the restof the ship to be able to survive the salvage operation
I wonder if we would able to bring up the anchor crane how cool would that be
Its a good idea to bring up the engines or a boiler
I'd like them to bring up bunches of the rusticles. Many have broken off and are laying everywhere. Preserve them and sell to help fund the museums. I'd love a section of 1 to go with my lil pieces of coal they collected from the debris field. I say bring up as many things as they can. But the shoes laying together in a way a body may have once been there, leave them alone. I wish there was a technology that could remove the sediment of the starboard bow so we can see iceberg damage. It's probably pristine under there, no rusticles.
Really nice Video!!! Especially the Promedan! No, seriously you make great videos.
I have seen hundreds of photos of images in the bow and every time i see it again and again i always
see stuff i have never seen before. Its like you could watch images and videos of the titanic every day for hours a day for over 20 years and you would still see stuff you have never seen before, amazing! What was that long deck at 4.30 that still looked great with the square windows, it showed about 3 decks. One on top that was flat with nothing on it, well it was just a small photo, but it was strange why there wasnt a fence on the top of it and it looked very high up with more decks below but it was to small a photo to see them. And it was 2 or 3 rows with square windows below the top of it A know the ship was big but i didnt know it was this big. And thats just half of it. The stern is just a scrap yard now!
The 3 1/2 story tall engines at the stern section is just “there” just standing tall and brace fully at the bottom of the ocean. I think the U.S. Navy and Canadian Navy and the RAF and British Navy could manageability weld off the the steel installs holding the 3 1/2 story engines and might as well seize the boiler that Dr. Robert Ballard spotted on the with the Argo robot when they located the wreck in 1985. Can you imagine IF they seized those pieces of equipment and potentially start up those pieces of equipment like they did for the whistles from the funnel. It would be MAGNIFICENT 👏🏽🙌🏽🤩🥹
That would be cool but idk if they are in a condition to actually be restored like that. We’d have to see
I guess you could cut the anchor chain on the deck, and the anchor might fall out into a basket and raise it up?
I think Stern mast could be a good thing that they can recover along with its cargo crane and maybe the engines.
Anything left of the lounge today would be buried under the collapsed decks of where the compass tower used to be
Why not a Boiler? I mean there is a huge debris field and it’s literally already out of the ship and good to lift.
No mention of the many intact davits that are on the wreck? The forward anchor crane? Parts of the wireless set?
As we all know now, a section of railing at the very bow HAS now fallen off.
Also, I think your estimate of the hull collapsing by 2030 is off. We're already at 2024, so that date is only about 5 years away. Most of the experts seem to think the bow section will last a lot longer (although the SUPERSTRUCTURE, which is made of lighter materials, MIGHT fail earlier).
The way I see it, the whole thing about the Titanic being a grave sight. Isn’t there already a memorial site for all the souls that were lost the night the ship sank? If so, would t that be considered the grave sight now? So if that’s the case, by all means, try to bring up as much of the ship as possible. Before she’s completely gone from this world
Imagine If You Could See The Big Piece Next To The Titanics Anchor In A Museum.
OH YEAH! UNNECESSARY CAPITALIZATION!!!
Imagine how much a bottle of Champagne from there would bring 🍾
If it still tastes good.
How about the remnant of the dome over the Aft Grand Staircase as the only major remaining part of either staircase. That is in the debris field. However there are all those pairs of shoes there, which mark where bodies undoubtedly fell. But the flesh & bone is long-gone.
I would like to know if there is any of the metalwork of the Bow Grand Staircase at the bottom of the great well. If it broke up the ironwork would have sunk down while the wood floated up.
Retrieving the Marconi Wireless sounds like a good idea, we know that both operators got away alive. Everything else is just too big. If the propellers were clear of the silt how the hell would you cut through the shaft and drag the prop out?
Why do they say that the ship would decinigrate if it's brought up, yet things like "the big piece" and the gangway door appear to have been holding up just fine?
The structure of the ship is compromised and weak.
Please, PLEASE, tell me your 8 years old or less....
@@OUTTA-TYME88 that makes sense. Thanks!
@@johnfranklin5277 maybe I am 8... Would that be a turn on for you?
@@awesomeluis if you are a girl, Joe Biden would like you. Just the right age for that perv.
maybe it sounds impossible, but you can try to take the Titanic apart underwater and assemble it on the surface
I remember the cut a section of wall with a port hole out. It took forever to get it up to the salvage ship. Its now in a museum
The whole grave situation is a bit overrated. Yes many people died there, but if we taking parts in order to preserve history and memory about those who died it is not bad thing to do.
If we use it to make money or in other disrespectful way, this is bad and should not be allowed. Also it is not like we will take the ship apart to get what we want. On the other hand. When we tok egipt's mummies out of their tombs it was completly ok. So we either respect the dead and their tombs or not. But not do this when it is convinient and disregard, when it is not.
I would say it’s okay to bring things up, it’s a part of history. Even if it’s a graveyard or not everybody has their own opinion in that, but the fact is it is something people want to see and remember the ship with what could still remain for years to come. Nobody complains when people bring up ww2 personally items from the beaches or concentration camps or bring out war planes from the ocean. So why should the titanic be any different. If I famously died I would want my things to be displayed for me so I can be remembered. People say just let them rest in peace. Well they have for hundreds of years so you’re right, at what point do they decide that it would be better too pull some things out, it will all go to waste over time anyways.
The forward hatch cover is sitting upside down near the bow replete with portholes.
The propellers would be a cool salvage if possible but i dont think it is there half buried and would have to be cut off of the shaft's .
After what has just happend i think they should leave it alone but i can understand why they have brought bits up because of history,
The sub never even made to the wreck so I think the sub dose not count and it was recovred so they can still take some artifacts as long as it's not the boots.
@@redemptionjack4657 so you would risk someone elass life, going down to the wreck to collect stuff, after what happend
@lindagoodswin9519 No, I meant using sub robots like they did with the Titanic artifacts and wall. I would never put life above artifacts.
@@redemptionjack4657 oh ok i miss understood, yes maybe for it all goes but i can see both sides, i can see why some people say leave it alone, but we need to save some for history
@lindagoodswin9519 First no harm done and second I fully agree with you.
For me it's don't touch the boots escpaclly if they or on the floor (it means it used to be a body). I just hope they get the Marconi machine aka the voice of the titanic sent out the faithfull sos message.
Anchors and propellers forget it those things weigh tons. And to be honest I dont want the Titanic to collapse anytime soon I know its gonna happen but I kinda wish we get a few more years of the wreck the way it is.
So glad to have the opportunity to see rov footage, and the 3d detailed “map” that was recently completed
What about one of the funnels ?? Must be lighter also than the Propellers.... yes I know they came off on the way down but they must know where they all are ?
Couldn't we recover the prepelar if we built a submarine with a saw, and a gathering shovel to pick it up?
It's pretty much a junk pile down there. Best bet to look the shipwrecks that's before the Titanic sank and see if any of them still there.
Depends how deep they are and what they are made of. They've found ships thousands of years old that are still in good shape.
They recently found the Endurance in perfectly preserved shape.
The ships so deceivingly big. When i saw where the grand staircase was that holes huge. I saw a bit jim cameron did on that hole by going down inside it and looking at decks that were huge, i was shocked. As when we always see that same model of the bow it doesnt look as big now, but its not like that. Its still huge, the bow just now is at least 400 feet long and 90 feet high at least. About 150 feet of the ship got lost when it broke in two, so the stern would be about 330 feet long if straitend out. As the ship was 882 feet long. But the stern is a mess. So it would take years to lift the whole ship if it fell apart the right way to get inside it to the decks. I didnt even notice it had lost at least 150 feet when it broke up till about 9 months ago as its too big to notice. Plus buried at least 50 feet into the sea floor. And the stern ended up a mile away. A heard 2 mile then 3.... A hate it when they do the same stuff but just use different words. And they know the people will watch it, as the title of the uploads are always different. Like the titan sub, how far are they going to go with that? Like "now heres the real true truth" "then now what really happend" just to make money
what percentage of steel has been eaten through?
Titanic was the final resting place of many many many souls. Let the dead rest.
That's a very controversial topic indeed. On the one hand, you have the historically significant wreckage that can be recovered (e.g. the Marconi radio), the lighting fixtures and all that, on the other there's the fact that place is a graveyard and should be left alone.
The only question remains: after all these years buried beneath the surface of the ocean, should Titanic's legacy still matter? Don't get me wrong, i love that ship but...we've all seen photos of it, we have documented the wreck itself and the extensive debris field and those will always be there for future generations to study and, maybe, appreciate. Isn't that enough to keep the legacy alive and vivid?
Not to mention that trying to recover anything from there would be an extremely complex and expensive operation...
Maybe they could bring up one of the davits that were torn off and dropped on the ocean floor?
what a unique thing to know. a davit.
They already bought at least 1 up. I touched it. Low vibration feel coming from within it. They could bring up as many as they can and share among the museums.
@@canislatrans8285 Really. Where is it?
@@sourzebra9289 No idea, the exhibit I went to was in 1999 and was temporary. It is likely in 1 of the permanent museums. I have been mostly out of the loop on Titanic stuff in recent years, but the Titan sub got me interested again.
I think it’d be cheaper to cast replicas of the titanic’s propellers than raising the actual propellers
build the whole thing from scratch,
That just isn't as cool lol
I don’t know. It’s 2023 and we should have the tech to raise large pieces.
no shit
@Titanic19127 why? Material science and mechanical engineering is really the limiting factor here. None of the advancements our era is defined by are really applicable here. Weve made leaps and bounds in things like ai, microprocessing, consumer electronics, battery technology, or rocketry. We don't have carbon nano tubes, silk fiber chords or any of the advancements that would actually be relevant. 2023 isn't futuristic truly, only our experience is.
I wonder if we will see the iceberg damage if all of the damage to her from hitting the iceberg damage and the damage from whe she hit the ocean floor
If you could recover the propellers.....how you gonna get em off...you would have a better chance at recovering a boiler that was thrown free when the ship broke apart
The stern looks like something Picasso made.
The mispronunciation of the word promenade continues..
“Maybe like the promadon windows” 😂
‘A deck promadon window section’🤣 8:04
it all can be save could be filled with carbon fiber resin then raised and restored
You Must have been on drugs when you typed that 😂😂😂😂😂
my dad saya it would work some day ill do it@@jonkerr7667
This Ship are so beatyfull i feel sad for all Human died on this ship
I think recover some things is good idea to keep the memorys
The engines are stuning :)
Love this Ship best ship ever
I don't agree with the graveyard complaints. It hasn't been that since shortly after it hit bottom. Any bodies were salsa by the time they settled. I think Titanic is too significant to history to not attempt as much recovery as is feasible. I dearly wish they would recover the Marconi as was once planned.
If they raise any more of Titanic, they NEED to bring at least he thing to the Florida museum.
Imagine if they tried to recover an entire ROOM?
Before watching and in response to the title alone... The photographs?
If anything, bring up one of the pieces of the bottom that broke off during the breakup. They are perfectly intact.
It is a graveyard however if there's a way to save the ship to immortalize it i think we should. To me it is a memorial even if it's no longer at the ocean floor. I wish we could bring the whole ship up but that's just impossible.
They should recover as much pieces as possible because this ship soon gonna crumble under intense water pressure
anyone who has taken something from the wreck should be rotting in prison for grave robbery saying it is for preservation is just an excuse so they can say look what I got and the biggest offender is James Camron for taking something from within the wreck
Need to find flight MH370, a 777 missing is a big plane.
Mabey its just the images dont do the ship justice sbd doesn't look nearly as big but i know the ship broke in half and is sunk but all the pictures have always jot impressed for whatever reason
I think it’s Just a Perspective thing, we can’t get true size looks wise cause all we have are small blips of areas with nothing large beside it, like a entire real photo with a known size Sub etc in the same frame. If that makes sense
I don’t mind the idea of taking stuff from the debris field but physically removing things from the ship just rubs me the wrong way. I get it’s been a long time but there’s just something about it to me.
For me it's the communication machine aka the voice of the titanic that should be taken from inside it is pure history though because of its location I am afraid of the damage it may cause.
yes its because they pretend that it will be gone in 10 years to have an excuse..its pretty obvious.. but footage with state of the art sub drones must be done asap.. i dont care that much for the external view, they also just made it for tressure hunting of the debree field.
I want the car from titanic to be salvage and be put on display at the titanic museum in Las Vegas
They should encase 2000 pounds of TNT and blow it up. Gather the pieces at a later time.
They’re too busy prepping that for your house.
How about leaving it alone and just letting it and whatever is still down there with it be as a memorial to the people that died that night
Nothing now. Too late. Anyway remember that dream I had. I think it meant to leave it alone. Enough has been robbed already from the grave. They are after getting in to that swimming pool that is sealed. Leave alone. There is enough evedence now, and we have pics and films.
What dream did you have. If you leave the wreck like that and it will get destroyed. Then we will only have photos and films. Once lost always lost. We can save them i feel.
They ought to just leave everything alone . Science is one thing but to make it an attraction is a bit tone def considerng so many people persished .
No it's rembereance just like the fields of verdun tourist spot yes, but the respect is still there.
It's not really a grave yard as the body's are gone but the titanic will still be there for 100s of years
No need to save anything. Titanic is immortalised in our culture anyway.
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il ne faut pas oublier que le site est considéré comme un cimetière. je ne suis pas d'accord sur le prélèvement d'une petite partie de la coque (même si elle était détachée des sections avant et arrière; Je préfère la reproduction en 3D qu'ils viennent de faire et qui permettra de l'étudier sans l'abimer plus.
The steel has been deteriorated after 100 years when it's lifted its going to crumble into pieces
Take a Torch to the propeller shaft....
I to am a depressed ginger.
I would go for Captain Smiths bath tub
I feel like it’s gone long enough. We need to let this ship rest. Let nature take care of it. I know how important it is to preserve history but I believe in getting good footage and documentation of it. Titanic is a thing of a long gone past and all of it and all those moments and memories will be lost in time, like tears in the rain.
I Have Touched The Big Piece In Las Vegas
‘The big piece’ 🍆
Are you actually allowed to touch it? How is it protected? Do they just have a rope in front of it?
@@coltonbarger1705 Yes i did it had a sign that said do not touch but i did my dad got mad
I have touched the Liberty Bell to
I say we nuke the site from orbit....... it’s the only way to be sure......lol
They should leave it alone. They have picked up a lot of things already. Just leave the ship alone.
Yeah,its a graveyard,but the shoes and the ‘personal objects’ are the tombs,there will be not problem if you don’t touched.
I just part of the titanic 😢
iam pro tech sollution and contra recovering. they just should have tiny modern go pro drones with freshly engineered light and laser for the depth and scan every room in the wreck, update it any 10 years with the newest tech, if you watch "back to the titanic" with cameron you realize that even in the full hd documentation of his, he inserted that 360p footage, prooving that there is no better footage yet,what a shame? tech since then got 100 times smaller and better, means we now could get into every chamber. and stop the recovery shit, thats bs. i am very confident that we finally will see a skelleton, deeper in the wreck.
There won't even be a skeleton.
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It would be nice to have a side pothole in your wall JK
Should leave the ship alone. People could have been anywhere when they died. Yes it's history and many graves.
Leave every piece of her down there. It's a graveyard. Have some respect and just leave it alone.
it's ashamed the wreck of the Titanic isn't given as much reverence as the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald
ZERO reasons to bring anything up further
Just leave it alone
Although the one who made this video thinks it's ok to take things from those who has died. Know this it wasn't approved the things that was taken from titanic. Russians was the first who then sold off. The only ones legally aloud to take from titanic is. Titanic inc who owns the rights to titanic. Still just know your stealing from the dead. Any shoe boot found is from a body that landed on the ocean floor. On April 15th 1912. What should be first done is. All items found should be handed over to a dependent of those who died. If those densendents do not want the items found. Then they can sell it to people who want to buy them. If those densendents decide to donate those items found. Then u can keep it. They won't. However everyone knows titanic items are cursed. I would dare myself to even buy that so called coal. Just to be safe. Many who have bought titanic items have died. Strangely. Yet the person who was left sold those items.
Does this guy ever stop yelling
,people died on this ship, their remains may have gone but that's not the point, just let sleeping dogs lie
No being forgotten is worst the boots are the bodies let those be but the rest have to be preserved.
@@redemptionjack4657 History will never forget them
@CaptJerry I'm sorry to say, but yes, it will just look at my generation. Quite a few don't know ww2 or the men who sacrifice their lives for our freedom that is what made me team artifacts.
Sorry but Titanic is a gravesite and should be left alone. ❤❤❤❤❤
Actually, it should be researched or checked by researchers and scientists, biologists but no tourism...
@@ultron374 I agree with that.
Do you talk to yourself using the same tone you use in the video? Just wondering if you find yourself annoying
Stop it. Leave it alone. Why? so you say you can? Or buy it? That’s disgusting. Like robbing a body to show your friends? There are some things that you just don’t do.
Yeah, but some items should be recovred they don't mean the boots they mean the vital parts like the communication machine that should be recovred or else it will be lost and forgotten which is worst.
@@redemptionjack4657 why? we can build an EXACT replica…. It’s just the having that one so someone somewhere can make a buck. That’s all it’s about.
@ToxicKitteh101 They already have the replica but it does not have the same meaning it is not the "voice" of the Titanic. However I know it may never be recovred becuase of the damage it may cause which would be distrubimg the dead but it is my hope my dream that some how it will. The group who wanted it was going to send it to the Titanic museum. No collecter can maintain it in its state only museums, but As I said, it's a hope and dream it doesn't have to be possible.
If you arent going to actually research the subject matter, don't make a video. The 2030 date has been proven to be inaccurate.
Also, PLEASE learn to pronounce promenade. It is not pronounced promidon...
None! Let it rot away! Get over your childish fascination of just one of countless wrecked ships.
The anchor would be pretty cool! I would definitely retrieve the anchor 😂