I did some checking after your last video about exercise and diabetes, where Russia did very well. I already knew they had one of the lowest life expectancies of the developed world. This is what I found out. (I could not find quality data regarding diabetes) Of the sixteen countries listed from the exercise graph featured in your last video ( in order, Netherlands, Germany, Russia, India, Canada, USA, UK, Australia, Sweden, S Arabia, Mexico, France, Italy, Brazil). Russia was 3rd best for exercise. 4th worst for obesity. 4th worst for alcohol consumption. Middle of the pack for smoking. Dead last (worst) for heart disease. Dead last for dementia. Next to last for life expectancy (India was last). The data for these statistics ranged between 2019 and 2021.
@@ThomasDeLauerOfficial Not everything is a result of lifestyle. I would look into why Russians don’t necessarily overproduce cholesterol, but have a higher propensity for not removing it efficiently from the bloodstream.
@jchi6822 👍 In 2022, the suicide rate for men was 26.1 per 100k. For women, that number was 6.9 per 100k. Russia also had the highest total suicide rate for these 16 countries.
@@ThomasDeLauerOfficial you both Googled stuff. Yet multiple Russians on here are calling this BS. Think Russian data from academics could be skewed? I spent 3 years in Russia back in 2005 and I can tell you that the typical meal is potatoes with a side of pasta and vodka.
@@jakubchrobry3701 just check prices in supermarkets on the web (it's not a secret and check the salary of the average Russian, not in Moscow), after that I highly recommend carefully reviewing Russian typical daily food consumption
{writing as a citizen of that country} potatoes and bread are popular here. The processed meats were way too common in the USSR times. Most people here do not train.
Haha that’s what I was thinking too.. I’m like my parents and all of the older generation in my family bread and potatoes are 95% of diets everyone has some type of heart disease
Russia is not as homogeneous as the US. Russia is a very large multicultural country where different regions live under very different climate conditions and have very specific diets. The people of the Polar North eat almost entirely animal protein, the Far East mostly consumes fish, and the Central part consumes a lot of cereals like buckwheat, rye bread, and vegetables.
an Ukrainian here and we have almost the same diet habits. Our typical dinner (for instance) would be a soup of some sort with potatoes AND some carbs like rice or pasta plus as a second course rice or pasta, or potatoes with meat, plus a lot of people re not educated and they eat a lot of processed meat like salami. Also because vegetable are very seasonal we have a very small window in summer when we can eat vegetables during the day, same thing for fruits. Also average russian doesn't workout AND of course alcohol. I don't know what Thomas is talking about when he says they are "active in recreational sports", gym culture is not a thing at all in russia
Having lived in Russia from 2011 to 2012, I can safely say they aren't low carb. I was surprised at how limited my options were when I did my first round of keto there. That said, they did have healthier options compared to the US, like mayonnaise made with olive oil instead of soybean oil.
This is true, as I have seen first hand. There are also serious environmental problems over there. Their diet could be perfect and it would make no difference.
@@n4870syes and no. some cities are kinda built around big industry hubs and yeah, air and water in those are bad AF. on the other hand, Moscow and Saint petersburg are clean cities with lots of greenery, and majority of adult working Russians live around those areas. on average though environmental stress is not so much different from the US??? it's much worse in China for example, literal hell on earth.
My Grandparents were immigrants from Ukraine and Austria. They ate mostly kasha (buckwheat), pierogies, and vegetable stews. (The large pot on the stove never emptied. The men would bring in vegetables from the garden all day long and add them to the pot, and when they got hungry they would dish out a meal from the eternally simmering pot. Not much meat at all. But lots of alcohol. Shot-glassful before every meal, even breakfast. But no processed food at all. Lifespan 91.
East europeans eat what? 😂 I am one if them and … where did you get your info from? Low carb? A lot of bread potato other veg flour stuff plenty and daily and yes meat in all forms. Thats traditional. What we don’t eat is that… packed food you unfortunately advertise on your site. We have own allotments and cook and preserve food on our own. Alcohol we can do it ! 😄🙌 at home.
I cited my sources. I know that it doesn’t seem like carb intake is lower, but compared to other countries (with lower CVD) they do. But I agree with everything you’re saying about real food. Heck yes!
World Health Organization alcohol consumption per capita data from 2019: Germany: 12.79 liters Ireland: 12.75 liters France: 12.23 liters Russia 10.5 liters US 9.97 liters UK 9.8 liters
The studies that I have presented are not wrong. The references are all there in the description. That being said, I’m sure there’s a lot of reality that isn’t put into these studies and isn’t reported overall. But I’m not presenting “wrong information” as the data I’m putting out is real data. Now, I give my hypothesis at the end, and that could be right/wrong or whatever, but that’s my hypothesis so happy to be wrong there. But the data I provided is real data.
Absolutely untrue...just shows how your videos are click bait for viewing. You are keep changing your mind all the time...Grain is a natural resource in Russia, there is no processed meat there like in US - it's unprocessed, high fat. And no, they are not athletic unless you count working in the fields or war
Hi Jenny, I’m not sure if you watched the video or just looked at the title. But I was pretty honest about the low carb thing. Compared to other countries, they are much lower carb. They’re not “keto” by a long shot, but they eat about 20% less carbs than the rest of Europe yet have significantly higher CVD. So this doesn’t have anything to do with me changing my mind nor is it an anti low carb video.
@@ThomasDeLauerOfficial Again, untrue. Have you been/ lived there or just repeating study done on 10% population living in big cities? 90% of ppl live in the country eating potatoes, grain and livestock. Don't repeat something you haven't experienced, stick to US
Where are you getting this nonsense? I studied nutritional anthropology. Russians don't eat low carb or high protein. While the urban rich may eat a fair amount of meat, most people aren't wealthy and live far away from the cities and health care - they don't fit this criteria. Average Russians eat high carb, moderate/low protein, and high fat. There is a lot of processed food plus a heck of a lot of alcohol on average Russian's tables. Throw in that many people in rural areas are very poor, with marginal access to any fresh food - esp in the winter. Apart from that, the low life expectancy is impacted by violence, alcohol abuse, drug abuse, and poor access to medical care (the idea that 95% of Russians have adequate iron levels is laughable. I doubt even 20% would have access to that blood work) - and in recent years, the war.
I did cite the studies in the description. They certainly don’t eat “keto” but they do eat lower carb than the rest of Europe and Asia but have higher CVD. I don’t think that’s inaccurate to point that out. I think perhaps people are thinking that they eat “keto” because they eat lower carb.
@@ThomasDeLauerOfficialI invite you in Russia. Let's see how low carb eaters they are😂😂😂 I live here. They consume 99% of carbs and vegetables fat. Percentage of meat I think is 1-5%
What do you consider processed meat??? Is it nitrates/celery powder you don't like? Lots of processed meat has nothing more that protein, fat, spices, naturally occurring nitrates and curing? What is the chemical you don't want us to have?
1. In Russia women Iive MUCH longer than men. Partly because previous generations of men have more 'manly' attitude and not very health aware. 2. Diet is high carb, moderate protein. Cheap processed meats and chicken meats are popular. More walking than in USA due to better public transport and less car owning. 3. Currently diet and habits shift closer to the western global style.
You have no idea how much the avg Russian drinks. Dont forget the smoking, the stress from even having an opinion that goes against the government can land you in jail. I used to live in Eastern Europe for decades. They eat bread with every meal, even with potatoes.
Who do you think the average Russian is? A Siberian man who lives under -40 Celsius all year long? There are whole regions where nobody drinks and there are a lot of Muslims in Russia too You can end up in jail in Western Europe too if you say the wrong thing about government You lived generically in “Eastern Europe” but you learnt nothing it seems
@@AA-cf4es it doesn't matter who drinks more. The point is, they all over consume alcohol. Even according to WHO, the avg World Health Organization considers dangerous. The average Russian drinker was quaffing 180 bottles of vodka per year, or a half-bottle every single day.
@@helios4425 sorry, mate, you've been bamboozled. idk how to tell you but that doesn't reflect the reality of working people here. it's not about alcoholism, it's much more about stress, low wages and abuse from those who are in power. average russian is not an alcoholic, more like workaholic but with low salary and little hope.
Alcohol and lots of grains particularly from Ukraine. And, lots of stress due to poor economy and living in a country ruled by a ruthless authoritarian with an infrastructure that probably mirrors the main leader’s disposition.
where do you take your statistics from? the figures are questionable. Before considering statistics, it is important to study, how they were measured. There is often difference in measurement, western studies do not always make direct measure in Russia but interpretations of local studies, that is bias at the end. As to me, you can only compare diets if you live in that region and really have reliable information of daily use in most population.
Posting content with contrasting info every day and confusing your viewers wouldn't fetch more views in the future it might also make you lose their trust.
As a Russian I highly agree with all commentators. Only one of my colleagues isn't a drinker or a smoker and eats healthy. Only one! Yes, Russian living in Moscow
Yeah this is a massive generalization of a massive country with millions and millions of people. So were just going to focus on processed meat consumption?where's the chart that details the smokers and drinkers cause I bet that might have something to do with it more than processed meat. Weird video
Pootin would not agree. Potato's and Bread play a huge part, as does very fatty cuts of meat. Mix that in with Vodka and smoking like a chimney - and there you go - the Eisenhower way.
not from Russia but I wonder if the flaw on this study is to measure Russia as the "USSR"... a lot has happened in these regions in just the past 30 years
Re: processed meats. What are they adding to the meat, or are they just grinding it like in the video? If it's just grinding, which is processing, how does that make a difference?
The classic soviet "колбаса" - large sausage was a staple of nutrition. It was Not made just by grinding meat, it contained a lot of potentially undesirable admixtures.
I'd go with "alcohol and tobacco" for $500, Alex. People rely on processed food all over the world, and it's a catch-all that's not helpful. It might be time to delve into the worst aspects of processing, and combinations of foods (like high fat and high carbs together.)
He doesn't claim such. He will tell you he's not a doctor, just a guy talking about stuff he's learned. If you need an 'authority' to teach you information, then *you* can go find that elsewhere.
I know firsthand. No. They eat high carb. Most of people do not eat much of red meat there. It is expensive for them. They eat a lot of bread and potatoes for sure. As for low blood sugar maybe that we can attribute to a lot of walking for the population living in cities. Often you cannot even get a garage for your car in vicinity of your apartment so you forced to walk. And it is expensive to own and drive cars for the most.
Met a russian man here in germany age 67 not visibly fat. We had a conversation and he said: I start my day with coffee and 12 teaspoon sugar inside and no lunch without sweet desert and cookies in the afternoon. Very unique .
Every comment just mentions "vodka". It is not only stereotypical but also quite outdated. As to the "low carb - high carb" question - potatoes, buckwheat, etc are indeed carbs but since when did we start demonizing all carbohydtrates in our diets to the point of saying they can decrease lifespan and increase all-cause mortality? I bet the prob isn't in carbs per se, but in the quality of those carbs (I'm referring to ultra processed foods). So looking into the obsession with junk food and fast food in general, strained economic situation we can guess that these factors may actually play a role in problems with health. As to stress - it is a stressful world we all live in, don't you think?
My problem is not the analysis; it’s the information the analysis is based on. How can you assess how credible the information is when it comes from a closed society like Russia? We don’t have any idea how they might be fudging the numbers to make themselves look better.
Always have to look at the nuances. You can eat a lot of meat but also a lot of carbs mixed in. Also the alcohol is basically fruit juice so their insulin resistance must be high.
Some percentage of people have genes….like P921….the Heart Attack gene….and a bad version of this gene…causing their endothelial lining to be much more susceptible to oxidation stress…and this will cause damage ….which will cause clotting….which leads to atherosclerosis and CVD. Someone needs to look at these findings with relation to genes we know are associated with CVD. Additionally processed meat, alcohol consumption and smoking all contribute to CVD….and should have been factored in to their findings. Instead this was a meat is bad for you article 🤨
They do. Here in NYC we have a lot of Russians. They smoke a lot. They don't consume alot of alcohol. And I'm referring to real Russians not the ones from the Stan nations who have different habits and diets.
Vegetables and fruit are carbs. and people who eat the most vegetables and fruit have lower incidence of cancer and cardiovascular disease. Russians don't eat a lot or a diverse amount of either fruit or vegetables.
Quality of this food data is very suspicious. I've been to Russia and Ukraine a handful of times. Going low-carb was conscious decision on my part, otherwise, you're going to get stacked with loads of carb options. Their grocery stores are packed with carbs and any traditional family table will have a plethora of carbs....bread galore.
Russian here. The diet varies from person to person, but in general, we eat a lot of carbs, especially the poorer areas. The cardiovascular issue has risen from alcohol and smoking. Can confirm the processed meat bit, since I've worked in the meat packing plant, where I made almost all types of processed stuff. The shorter life span though, the glaring reason is the stress, imo. I'm 37yo, non-smoker, quit drinking recently, even though I always have been a light drinker throughout my life, and now I'm quite intrigued if I live longer then my late dad, who passed away at 51. Cheers.
Everyone smokes in Russia. Literally everyone, I'm sure this affects the cardiovascular system. Also, it's a fitness culture. Everyone has their kids doing karate or gymnastics or some sort of sport. If you removed the alcohol and cigarettes I think Russians would be exceedingly healthy.
I found out I have Incomplete right branch bundle block....52, runner my whole life, weights etc plus healthy eating. I guess most men get this from extreme sports, but I was LE so the code 3 calls got me!
Having grown up in Russia in the 90's, I can definitely say that you massively underestimate the effect of alcoholism. It kinda intruded into the culture so much, that it has always been almost a norm to finish a bottle of vodka with your friend during one evening. If you move away a little bit from larger cities, life in a typical Russian province is basically a non-stop series of consumption of alcohol as the only source of fun. And it's only recently when this culture has started to change a tiny bit. I don't know how this compares to the US or the other countries, but this a mere self-destruction that, as I believe, safely outweighs all other possibly healthy eating habits of any kind.
I’m not sure where the lower carb thing is coming from. They eat bread with every meal. Also, lots of people smoke, and healthcare is just okay. Then again, everyone in my family lived well into their 90s.
Lets start with the foundation. Cardiovascular disease is from high blood pressure period. If it had anything to do with cholesterol or LDLs we would see it in veins and we never have as cholesterol LDLs are in the veins. Chronic high blood pressure causes cardiovascular disease. Anything that causes chronic hypertension causes cardiovascular disease. Do we blame the fire truck for fires because they are always at the scene? Do we blame the ambulance for being at the medical emergency so quickly no we don't. So why do we blame the LDL for being at points of damaged arteries and the heart it's actually ridiculous. So before we try make sense of data it helps if we actually understand what were talking about and not just repeating stuff we heard or endorsing weak hypothesis's of other people.
Why would anyone think that Russian eat low carb? Check any traditional russian recipe and you find A LOT potatoes, bread, pastries. On one of their most traditional festival they literally eat only pancakes.
Please consider interviewing Sally Norton author of Toxic Superfoods. Oxalates are extremely serious to for all of us and few have recognized this until her work.
Normally, you back up your findings with scientific data but not in this video. Really you only told us your opinions. I think some people could easily deduce that high protein and low carbs result in high all-cause mortality and no contradicting data was presented. Or did I miss something ?
Love your work, But I am not at all satisfied with your answers on this one. However, the Russians in the comments are debunking your low carb claims. The alcohol, too.
Genetics....to survive in the Russan steppe against draughts and famine, let alone the winters the slavs generally carry excess fat quite easily. You would have never found a tall lean serf in imperial Russia. To survive they were short with a slow metabolism . And thus they had relatively short life spans.
Trust me, they eat a whole lot of carbs. Probably more than the global average. The processed meat intake is far beyond anything you’ll see in the world.
References to "processed meat" are tiresome and problematic. The bashers should get back to us when they figure out what part of "processed" matters. It's a catch-all that's used to bash meat, and you can argue that processed carbs and fats are worse. PS: The fact is, people depend on processed foods, and we should eat as much fresh as we can-but let's not get on the "processed meat bad" track without some practical information to act on it.
we don't eat low carb, dude... delete this video lol, literally didn't do your research. you could talk to a couple of russians for starters. we eat lots of potatoes, rice, huge amount of bread, chip ramen and lots of not very high quality pasta.
@@ThomasDeLauerOfficialman I literally live here, how arrogant can you be? i know what we eat 😂 also, Europe is not a homogenous mass, their diet varies greatly from country to country. also, Russia is in no way Europe or Asia, we re literally our own thing, mix between both.
I totally get it dude. I’m sure you know more than me by being in it. But I’m not looking at incorrect data either. Russia has an increasing level of diabetes that is alarming, but up until a couple years ago had some of the best oral glucose tolerance tests in the world. That’s what this video was about. Stable, generally good blood sugar for decades, yet still very high CVD. It’s pretty strange in a lot of ways.
Also I just rewatched the video. I think I was pretty honest and clear about the carbohydrate intake compared to other countries. Just wanted to make sure I wasn’t totally out of line lol. Appreciate your insight and your comment brother.
I did some checking after your last video about exercise and diabetes, where Russia did very well. I already knew they had one of the lowest life expectancies of the developed world. This is what I found out. (I could not find quality data regarding diabetes) Of the sixteen countries listed from the exercise graph featured in your last video ( in order, Netherlands, Germany, Russia, India, Canada, USA, UK, Australia, Sweden, S Arabia, Mexico, France, Italy, Brazil). Russia was 3rd best for exercise. 4th worst for obesity. 4th worst for alcohol consumption. Middle of the pack for smoking. Dead last (worst) for heart disease. Dead last for dementia. Next to last for life expectancy (India was last). The data for these statistics ranged between 2019 and 2021.
I am so grateful for you posting this comment. Everyone so quick to make a comment without actually doing digging. Thank you.
@@ThomasDeLauerOfficial Not everything is a result of lifestyle. I would look into why Russians don’t necessarily overproduce cholesterol, but have a higher propensity for not removing it efficiently from the bloodstream.
Also women live much longer in Russia than men.
@jchi6822 👍 In 2022, the suicide rate for men was 26.1 per 100k. For women, that number was 6.9 per 100k. Russia also had the highest total suicide rate for these 16 countries.
@@ThomasDeLauerOfficial you both Googled stuff. Yet multiple Russians on here are calling this BS. Think Russian data from academics could be skewed? I spent 3 years in Russia back in 2005 and I can tell you that the typical meal is potatoes with a side of pasta and vodka.
It's not true, as Russian I can say that the vast majority of Russians eat a lot of carbs and meat is 'nt cheap here.
ya..it just goes to show how skewed or biased "studies" can be
well if thats the case carbs dont cause diabetes because they dont have much diabetes.. which is it??
Provide some evidence rather than just telling us what you seem to feel in your gut. Why should I take your word for it?
@@jakubchrobry3701 just check prices in supermarkets on the web (it's not a secret and check the salary of the average Russian, not in Moscow), after that I highly recommend carefully reviewing Russian typical daily food consumption
@@jakubchrobry3701 just check the web if you don't take my word. I am sure that you can check prices and the daily meals of the average russian
{writing as a citizen of that country} potatoes and bread are popular here. The processed meats were way too common in the USSR times. Most people here do not train.
Haha that’s what I was thinking too.. I’m like my parents and all of the older generation in my family bread and potatoes are 95% of diets everyone has some type of heart disease
Russia is not as homogeneous as the US. Russia is a very large multicultural country where different regions live under very different climate conditions and have very specific diets. The people of the Polar North eat almost entirely animal protein, the Far East mostly consumes fish, and the Central part consumes a lot of cereals like buckwheat, rye bread, and vegetables.
Russia and all their neighbors eat tons of carbs (BREAD, potatoes, buckwheat, pastries, cakes, pancakes...)
Very badly informed video.
Exactly. He talks about has no clue
true!
an Ukrainian here and we have almost the same diet habits. Our typical dinner (for instance) would be a soup of some sort with potatoes AND some carbs like rice or pasta plus as a second course rice or pasta, or potatoes with meat, plus a lot of people re not educated and they eat a lot of processed meat like salami. Also because vegetable are very seasonal we have a very small window in summer when we can eat vegetables during the day, same thing for fruits. Also average russian doesn't workout AND of course alcohol. I don't know what Thomas is talking about when he says they are "active in recreational sports", gym culture is not a thing at all in russia
видимо опрашивали москвичей 😂 заставляет задуматься о достоверности информации во всех остальных видео.
Curious how much sunlight and vitamin D might play into it as well.
They eat a lot more carbs than you’d think.
Yes, Thomas doesn't seem to want to link the fructose glycation damaging arteries here.
wouldnt diabetes be alot higher if that is truly the case??
What type of carbs? Broccoli? Cotton candy?
@@jakubchrobry3701 Potatoes, pasta and rice stupid
I think they drink most of their carbs.
Having lived in Russia from 2011 to 2012, I can safely say they aren't low carb. I was surprised at how limited my options were when I did my first round of keto there. That said, they did have healthier options compared to the US, like mayonnaise made with olive oil instead of soybean oil.
In this video I did explain that they’re lower carb than most. Statistically they do eat a fair percentage less in the way of carbs.
They smoke and drink a lot.
This is true, as I have seen first hand. There are also serious environmental problems over there. Their diet could be perfect and it would make no difference.
@@rontiemens2553 environmental like what?
@@n4870syes and no.
some cities are kinda built around big industry hubs and yeah, air and water in those are bad AF. on the other hand, Moscow and Saint petersburg are clean cities with lots of greenery, and majority of adult working Russians live around those areas.
on average though environmental stress is not so much different from the US??? it's much worse in China for example, literal hell on earth.
They don't eat low carb, they eat high carb, high fat ,high protein
and high alchohol :D
Alcoholism is a real problem there. Has been since the Cold War. They also smoke more than the US if I recall
@@stankmcdankton6204 true that, but also they have much less stress :D
Exactly. I came here to say just that. 30% is NOT low carb….
True
I'm Russian carnivore living in Moscow
They drink a lot of alcohol
Yeah, I mean, DERP!
Irish and Germans do too.
I had a Russian tenant, she daily ate potatoes and bread, rice and pasta, sushi.
If that's low carb... 😬🤌🏻 😅😂
Hey you used a stereotypical italian “thing”
Nothing is low carb about Russians. More like high carb, high fat, relatively low protein.
Hello Thomas! I'm live in Yekaterinburg, Russia. Many peoples here eat a lot of carbs and junk-food.
They also have a lot of Falling Out of Window syndrome.
My Grandparents were immigrants from Ukraine and Austria. They ate mostly kasha (buckwheat), pierogies, and vegetable stews. (The large pot on the stove never emptied. The men would bring in vegetables from the garden all day long and add them to the pot, and when they got hungry they would dish out a meal from the eternally simmering pot. Not much meat at all. But lots of alcohol. Shot-glassful before every meal, even breakfast. But no processed food at all. Lifespan 91.
Bruv what are you on. They do ear alot of carbs in the form of bread and vegetables etc. Its the smoking and drinking
East europeans eat what? 😂 I am one if them and … where did you get your info from? Low carb? A lot of bread potato other veg flour stuff plenty and daily and yes meat in all forms. Thats traditional. What we don’t eat is that… packed food you unfortunately advertise on your site. We have own allotments and cook and preserve food on our own. Alcohol we can do it ! 😄🙌 at home.
I cited my sources. I know that it doesn’t seem like carb intake is lower, but compared to other countries (with lower CVD) they do. But I agree with everything you’re saying about real food. Heck yes!
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World Health Organization alcohol consumption per capita data from 2019:
Germany: 12.79 liters
Ireland: 12.75 liters
France: 12.23 liters
Russia 10.5 liters
US 9.97 liters
UK 9.8 liters
I thought Russian diet is all carb 😂. They drink/smoke a lot.
Lot of wrong data presented here, sorry thomas. You should take this one down.
The studies that I have presented are not wrong. The references are all there in the description. That being said, I’m sure there’s a lot of reality that isn’t put into these studies and isn’t reported overall. But I’m not presenting “wrong information” as the data I’m putting out is real data. Now, I give my hypothesis at the end, and that could be right/wrong or whatever, but that’s my hypothesis so happy to be wrong there. But the data I provided is real data.
Absolutely untrue...just shows how your videos are click bait for viewing. You are keep changing your mind all the time...Grain is a natural resource in Russia, there is no processed meat there like in US - it's unprocessed, high fat. And no, they are not athletic unless you count working in the fields or war
Hi Jenny,
I’m not sure if you watched the video or just looked at the title. But I was pretty honest about the low carb thing. Compared to other countries, they are much lower carb. They’re not “keto” by a long shot, but they eat about 20% less carbs than the rest of Europe yet have significantly higher CVD. So this doesn’t have anything to do with me changing my mind nor is it an anti low carb video.
@@ThomasDeLauerOfficial Again, untrue. Have you been/ lived there or just repeating study done on 10% population living in big cities? 90% of ppl live in the country eating potatoes, grain and livestock. Don't repeat something you haven't experienced, stick to US
That’s super intriguing. Yes there’s always flaws with studies. I’ll continue to look deeper.
the staple food is potato fgs
Where are you getting this nonsense? I studied nutritional anthropology. Russians don't eat low carb or high protein.
While the urban rich may eat a fair amount of meat, most people aren't wealthy and live far away from the cities and health care - they don't fit this criteria.
Average Russians eat high carb, moderate/low protein, and high fat. There is a lot of processed food plus a heck of a lot of alcohol on average Russian's tables. Throw in that many people in rural areas are very poor, with marginal access to any fresh food - esp in the winter.
Apart from that, the low life expectancy is impacted by violence, alcohol abuse, drug abuse, and poor access to medical care (the idea that 95% of Russians have adequate iron levels is laughable. I doubt even 20% would have access to that blood work) - and in recent years, the war.
I did cite the studies in the description. They certainly don’t eat “keto” but they do eat lower carb than the rest of Europe and Asia but have higher CVD. I don’t think that’s inaccurate to point that out. I think perhaps people are thinking that they eat “keto” because they eat lower carb.
Btw the iron part is quite interesting. It’s more so that they’re meeting the recommended intake of iron more so than serum iron levels.
@@ThomasDeLauerOfficialI invite you in Russia. Let's see how low carb eaters they are😂😂😂 I live here. They consume 99% of carbs and vegetables fat. Percentage of meat I think is 1-5%
Potatoes and Vodka are popular....really.
What do you consider processed meat??? Is it nitrates/celery powder you don't like? Lots of processed meat has nothing more that protein, fat, spices, naturally occurring nitrates and curing? What is the chemical you don't want us to have?
It's not the meat in any form, it's the carbs/modern snacks AND alcohol AND cigarettes. I've spent lots of time in Russia
Good question. I would like to know too.
Alcohol is basically a carb/sugar/empty calories.
1. In Russia women Iive MUCH longer than men. Partly because previous generations of men have more 'manly' attitude and not very health aware.
2. Diet is high carb, moderate protein. Cheap processed meats and chicken meats are popular. More walking than in USA due to better public transport and less car owning.
3. Currently diet and habits shift closer to the western global style.
You have no idea how much the avg Russian drinks. Dont forget the smoking, the stress from even having an opinion that goes against the government can land you in jail. I used to live in Eastern Europe for decades. They eat bread with every meal, even with potatoes.
Who do you think the average Russian is? A Siberian man who lives under -40 Celsius all year long?
There are whole regions where nobody drinks and there are a lot of Muslims in Russia too
You can end up in jail in Western Europe too if you say the wrong thing about government
You lived generically in “Eastern Europe” but you learnt nothing it seems
you are literally wrong about alcohol. polish and german people drink much more alcohol on average. check out real statistic.
@@AA-cf4es it doesn't matter who drinks more. The point is, they all over consume alcohol. Even according to WHO, the avg World Health Organization considers dangerous. The average Russian drinker was quaffing 180 bottles of vodka per year, or a half-bottle every single day.
@@helios4425 sorry, mate, you've been bamboozled. idk how to tell you but that doesn't reflect the reality of working people here.
it's not about alcoholism, it's much more about stress, low wages and abuse from those who are in power. average russian is not an alcoholic, more like workaholic but with low salary and little hope.
What are you smoking stop watching CNN people bitch about government all the time
And do they play football, soccer, basketball, baseball, and jog outside all summer or is it - 35° C ???
Alcohol and lots of grains particularly from Ukraine. And, lots of stress due to poor economy and living in a country ruled by a ruthless authoritarian with an infrastructure that probably mirrors the main leader’s disposition.
Alcohol and tobacco
Lack of sunshine?
cykaaaaa
where do you take your statistics from? the figures are questionable. Before considering statistics, it is important to study, how they were measured. There is often difference in measurement, western studies do not always make direct measure in Russia but interpretations of local studies, that is bias at the end. As to me, you can only compare diets if you live in that region and really have reliable information of daily use in most population.
Posting content with contrasting info every day and confusing your viewers wouldn't fetch more views in the future it might also make you lose their trust.
There’s nothing contrasting about this video. It’s just data lol
Vodka
Stress
Poverty
Kinda makes your body hurt.
They mostly eat non ultra processed foods, that's the key.
As a Russian I highly agree with all commentators. Only one of my colleagues isn't a drinker or a smoker and eats healthy. Only one!
Yes, Russian living in Moscow
They drink, smoke, and deal with extremely cold weather.
Cold weather has nothing to do with the health. Canada is tropical? Norway, Sweden?
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@@AlexKuestaYes it does. The vasoconstriction from extreme cold can cause a heart attack if somebody overexerts themself.
if I had to guess, probably Vodka.
bingo !
Probably a recent medical intervention these days.
Yeah this is a massive generalization of a massive country with millions and millions of people. So were just going to focus on processed meat consumption?where's the chart that details the smokers and drinkers cause I bet that might have something to do with it more than processed meat. Weird video
Pootin would not agree.
Potato's and Bread play a huge part, as does very fatty cuts of meat.
Mix that in with Vodka and smoking like a chimney - and there you go - the Eisenhower way.
not from Russia but I wonder if the flaw on this study is to measure Russia as the "USSR"... a lot has happened in these regions in just the past 30 years
Vitamin d3 has probably a lot to do with it, along with other nutrients or vitamins. Traditional russian cuisine involves lots of potatoes and breads.
As a ukrainian, potatoes, processed high fat meats and grandma always tryna feed you do not make healthy living
Re: processed meats. What are they adding to the meat, or are they just grinding it like in the video? If it's just grinding, which is processing, how does that make a difference?
The classic soviet "колбаса" - large sausage was a staple of nutrition. It was Not made just by grinding meat, it contained a lot of potentially undesirable admixtures.
I'd go with "alcohol and tobacco" for $500, Alex. People rely on processed food all over the world, and it's a catch-all that's not helpful. It might be time to delve into the worst aspects of processing, and combinations of foods (like high fat and high carbs together.)
This guy is apparently an EXPERT on everything!
RUN!😮
He doesn't claim such. He will tell you he's not a doctor, just a guy talking about stuff he's learned. If you need an 'authority' to teach you information, then *you* can go find that elsewhere.
I know firsthand. No. They eat high carb. Most of people do not eat much of red meat there. It is expensive for them. They eat a lot of bread and potatoes for sure. As for low blood sugar maybe that we can attribute to a lot of walking for the population living in cities. Often you cannot even get a garage for your car in vicinity of your apartment so you forced to walk. And it is expensive to own and drive cars for the most.
Met a russian man here in germany age 67 not visibly fat.
We had a conversation and he said: I start my day with coffee
and 12 teaspoon sugar inside and no lunch without sweet desert and cookies in the afternoon.
Very unique .
Every comment just mentions "vodka". It is not only stereotypical but also quite outdated.
As to the "low carb - high carb" question - potatoes, buckwheat, etc are indeed carbs but since when did we start demonizing all carbohydtrates in our diets to the point of saying they can decrease lifespan and increase all-cause mortality? I bet the prob isn't in carbs per se, but in the quality of those carbs (I'm referring to ultra processed foods). So looking into the obsession with junk food and fast food in general, strained economic situation we can guess that these factors may actually play a role in problems with health.
As to stress - it is a stressful world we all live in, don't you think?
They have to *believe* that someone else is drinking more, so they *feel* okay by comparison. Propaganda and infantilism.
My problem is not the analysis; it’s the information the analysis is based on. How can you assess how credible the information is when it comes from a closed society like Russia? We don’t have any idea how they might be fudging the numbers to make themselves look better.
They shouldn’t go to Ukrainian land, then they will not die so young
Always have to look at the nuances. You can eat a lot of meat but also a lot of carbs mixed in. Also the alcohol is basically fruit juice so their insulin resistance must be high.
If I had to guess, probably putin.
Some percentage of people have genes….like P921….the Heart Attack gene….and a bad version of this gene…causing their endothelial lining to be much more susceptible to oxidation stress…and this will cause damage ….which will cause clotting….which leads to atherosclerosis and CVD.
Someone needs to look at these findings with relation to genes we know are associated with CVD.
Additionally processed meat, alcohol consumption and smoking all contribute to CVD….and should have been factored in to their findings.
Instead this was a meat is bad for you article 🤨
they smoke a shit ton lol
They do. Here in NYC we have a lot of Russians. They smoke a lot.
They don't consume alot of alcohol.
And I'm referring to real Russians not the ones from the Stan nations who have different habits and diets.
they have Putin to worry about 😅
Vegetables and fruit are carbs. and people who eat the most vegetables and fruit have lower incidence of cancer and cardiovascular disease. Russians don't eat a lot or a diverse amount of either fruit or vegetables.
Another Charlatan video
4:40 …. U a rapper now Thomas? 😂😂
They also drink too much vodka.😅
you are so clever Thomas creating such a controversal videos which then every time get a lot of comments which is good for you :)
Vodka
Quality of this food data is very suspicious. I've been to Russia and Ukraine a handful of times. Going low-carb was conscious decision on my part, otherwise, you're going to get stacked with loads of carb options. Their grocery stores are packed with carbs and any traditional family table will have a plethora of carbs....bread galore.
Russian here. The diet varies from person to person, but in general, we eat a lot of carbs, especially the poorer areas. The cardiovascular issue has risen from alcohol and smoking. Can confirm the processed meat bit, since I've worked in the meat packing plant, where I made almost all types of processed stuff. The shorter life span though, the glaring reason is the stress, imo. I'm 37yo, non-smoker, quit drinking recently, even though I always have been a light drinker throughout my life, and now I'm quite intrigued if I live longer then my late dad, who passed away at 51. Cheers.
Everyone smokes in Russia. Literally everyone, I'm sure this affects the cardiovascular system. Also, it's a fitness culture. Everyone has their kids doing karate or gymnastics or some sort of sport. If you removed the alcohol and cigarettes I think Russians would be exceedingly healthy.
I found out I have Incomplete right branch bundle block....52, runner my whole life, weights etc plus healthy eating. I guess most men get this from extreme sports, but I was LE so the code 3 calls got me!
Having grown up in Russia in the 90's, I can definitely say that you massively underestimate the effect of alcoholism. It kinda intruded into the culture so much, that it has always been almost a norm to finish a bottle of vodka with your friend during one evening. If you move away a little bit from larger cities, life in a typical Russian province is basically a non-stop series of consumption of alcohol as the only source of fun. And it's only recently when this culture has started to change a tiny bit. I don't know how this compares to the US or the other countries, but this a mere self-destruction that, as I believe, safely outweighs all other possibly healthy eating habits of any kind.
I’m not sure where the lower carb thing is coming from. They eat bread with every meal. Also, lots of people smoke, and healthcare is just okay. Then again, everyone in my family lived well into their 90s.
Lets start with the foundation. Cardiovascular disease is from high blood pressure period. If it had anything to do with cholesterol or LDLs we would see it in veins and we never have as cholesterol LDLs are in the veins. Chronic high blood pressure causes cardiovascular disease. Anything that causes chronic hypertension causes cardiovascular disease. Do we blame the fire truck for fires because they are always at the scene? Do we blame the ambulance for being at the medical emergency so quickly no we don't. So why do we blame the LDL for being at points of damaged arteries and the heart it's actually ridiculous. So before we try make sense of data it helps if we actually understand what were talking about and not just repeating stuff we heard or endorsing weak hypothesis's of other people.
Why would anyone think that Russian eat low carb? Check any traditional russian recipe and you find A LOT potatoes, bread, pastries. On one of their most traditional festival they literally eat only pancakes.
Please consider interviewing Sally Norton author of Toxic Superfoods. Oxalates are extremely serious to for all of us and few have recognized this until her work.
Normally, you back up your findings with scientific data but not in this video. Really you only told us your opinions. I think some people could easily deduce that high protein and low carbs result in high all-cause mortality and no contradicting data was presented. Or did I miss something ?
Love your work, But I am not at all satisfied with your answers on this one. However, the Russians in the comments are debunking your low carb claims.
The alcohol, too.
Genetics....to survive in the Russan steppe against draughts and famine, let alone the winters the slavs generally carry excess fat quite easily. You would have never found a tall lean serf in imperial Russia. To survive they were short with a slow metabolism . And thus they had relatively short life spans.
Trust me, they eat a whole lot of carbs. Probably more than the global average. The processed meat intake is far beyond anything you’ll see in the world.
It's also their diet high in Ukrainian iron that's causing their life expectancy to go down...
It’s called Wodka= water = Vodka im Eastern European
Too much vodka
My usband is Russian, now eat a Portuguese Diet, but they eat a lot of potatoes and bread, and alcholl.
😅😅 u forgot the good vodka?
There's not a lot to unpack here, it's just vodka, beer and cigarettes, nothing to do with the diet.
Russian cuisine is centered around stuff made out of dough. How are they low carb?
I haven't watched the video yet, but maybe because they drink a lot and are vitamin D deficient?
Sunlight as one part of the issue? Lack of it, this more artificial light and all that comes with that?
We eat high everything, a lot of possessed meat, I meat A LOT 😢
Not the dizzay 🤣🤣. You’re showing your age, my guy
I think their snacks ( cookies etc.) are often high in transfats. Then alot of alcohol.
Because they live in Mordor and eat halfling flesh?
References to "processed meat" are tiresome and problematic. The bashers should get back to us when they figure out what part of "processed" matters. It's a catch-all that's used to bash meat, and you can argue that processed carbs and fats are worse.
PS: The fact is, people depend on processed foods, and we should eat as much fresh as we can-but let's not get on the "processed meat bad" track without some practical information to act on it.
they naturally produce a statin in their livers! hahah..ugh.
So what in processed meat is causing the problem?
Thanks for sharing this. Very informative!
Their high cancer rates are from the ongoing effects of Chernobyl.
we don't eat low carb, dude...
delete this video lol, literally didn't do your research. you could talk to a couple of russians for starters.
we eat lots of potatoes, rice, huge amount of bread, chip ramen and lots of not very high quality pasta.
Perhaps you didn’t watch the video. Compared to the rest of Europe it’s significantly lower carb yet has the highest CVD.
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I literally live here, how arrogant can you be? i know what we eat 😂
also, Europe is not a homogenous mass, their diet varies greatly from country to country.
also, Russia is in no way Europe or Asia, we re literally our own thing, mix between both.
I totally get it dude. I’m sure you know more than me by being in it. But I’m not looking at incorrect data either. Russia has an increasing level of diabetes that is alarming, but up until a couple years ago had some of the best oral glucose tolerance tests in the world. That’s what this video was about. Stable, generally good blood sugar for decades, yet still very high CVD. It’s pretty strange in a lot of ways.
Also I just rewatched the video. I think I was pretty honest and clear about the carbohydrate intake compared to other countries. Just wanted to make sure I wasn’t totally out of line lol. Appreciate your insight and your comment brother.
where do you get these bs infos?
Russians are not low carb..