Starting a Vineyard from Scratch. Part 3, First year pruning and training
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- Part 3 in our Vineyard Series.
All we are trying to do in the first year is to get our vines up to the trellis wire, which is about 1metre off the ground. Not all vines play by the rules however, so in the first year we need to prune and train the vines up the stake to give them the best chance of success.In our vineyard which we started from scatch earlier this year, most of the vines have done really well with nearly half reaching the trellis line by the end of August.
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I am really enjoying this, I’ve started a back yard vineyard and these are incredibly helpful
this is awesome. Im going to start my own in a few years
Same
Didn't know i can use side shoots. I thought everybody just remove them. Good to know.
its very interesting for me to watch people start farms from scratch as my family had a farms and animals for probably centuries,we also have a vineyard behind our house!
I started watching your videos on growing grapes.i had gotten some vines that I started in 5 gallon buckets will it hurt the vine if I prune off the runners i don't want or should I wait till they go dormant
Hi there.
For heavy pruning, leave it until it goes dormant. If you are doing pruning to give it shape (ie leaving some growing canes on it) then you can do so throughout the summer months. Come winter, leave a couple of canes and some buds and it will flourish the following year.
Ohh! Thank you. Very nice description on trainng of young grape plantation. From Tanzania.
You have to keep the base of the vines free of weed,specially for the young plants to establish. The ground does look very dry too.
Hi Nico, I think you are right. Although we did water the vines in this first year, they may have been a bit dry. Fortunately in year two, nearly all have been much more vigorous and growing well (with one or two exceptions).
nice vineyard very wide what variety of this grapes I have grapes too just starting now, I upload some video on my youtube
Amazing video. Everything explained really well. Did you remove fruits in the first /second year??
Wow 👍🏼❤️ thank you for this video!
Awesome video diary of your vineyard.
With the shoots that you prune, could you propagate them to establish more vines?
Hi Benjamin. We haven't propagated the shoots yet, although one probably could. The main problem would be that the rootstock would not be on a graft and so would not be resistant to the phylloxera bug and other soil based pests. That said it might be worth a go.
Hello from PEI Canada.
I just planted my three little vines about a month ago. I was told that the 4 arm Kniffen system was the way to trellis for the Valliant variety I have planted.
Would you agree?
Thank you for Help
I'm trying out a few vines this year, and more next year. I'm in a harsh climate (Canada) but most of my vines made it through their first winter. I know I need to pinch off some of the extra growth, like you're doing, but it breaks my heart to do it when they have already survived such a tough go. Thanks for making these videos! They are helpful.
I know exactly what you mean. You have to be quite brutal with vines, I've found - otherwise you get something that is totally out of control. The good thing is that vines are very vigorous growers and come back stronger after a good pruning.
With the ground cracked open, it’s kinda hard for me consider your advice realistically.
Have you irrigated it during the first year? I know some vineyards only rely on the precipitation.
Your ground is so dry. Shouldn't you be regularly watering the first year vines?
Great video. Thinking of starting my own so this has been very informative. I have a tip about planting with an auger. They can sometimes leave a sheer surface to the hole and make it harder for the plants to take root so consider welding on a few small teeth to the side of the auger bit to rough up the hole
Hi there. You are quite right regarding the end of the hole being a sheer surface. Good idea regarding welding on a few teeth to roughen up the sides. Thank you.
Appreciate the informative video. I work as a farm hand &this year I've gotten hands on experience helping to train new shoots on a block devastated by frost. Vineyards are a...lot more work than people think yet I absolutely love what I do, it's peaceful.
Hi there. Then you for your comment. It's very rewarding work but you're right in that they do take effort to get right.
We're just getting our vines in! And we have a sweet black dog just like yours! I hope we do as well as you guys are doing. Thank you for the videos!
Hi Dorothy. Well done in getting the vines in. Ours will be waking up soon too. More videos to follow to chart our progress. Little field Labs are adorable, ours is still a silly young pup really.
I am going to make a vineyard in Crimea
Nice one.
I would be grateful to know where I could buy bare root vines in the UK?
Are you training your vines on a double guyot system?
For this system the first wire usually is at 30 to 40 cm from the soil.
Yours is at 1 metre high. Any reasons (except for ease to work)for it or I am totally wrong?
Hi Nico. We train them at a higher level for ease of picking but also to keep the risk of damage to the grapes from mould (mildew usually originates from the ground) and also from the risk of rabbits and other pests (even though we have netting, you can't be too careful)
I live in Herefordshire too and looking to start a small vineyard. Please could you recommend somewhere to buy vines and also could you let me know the best month to plant vines, can it be done ion the autumn? Thank you
Hi Louisa. Great to hear from you. I would start by having a look at winegrowers.info. They import vines and have lots of varieties. Best time to plant is March or April while the vines are still dormant. You don't really want to plant when the vine is growing.
To be perfectly honest, this was extremely inspiring. Prior to watching this I’ve dreamt of creating something like this here in the states. Unfortunately, funds always come up as a concern. How did you start? Or what do you recommend for someone like myself, in terms of capital needing to start up? Either way, congrats on your achievements! And keep it up! If you need a helping hand I’ll come dig dirt. Better than the current 9-5.
Hi Sean.
Glad you liked the video. Hoping to post more videos soon in the vineyard. In our situation, we were fortunate to have a bit of land but it was in a terrible state. We took a couple on months to clear it and prepare the ground. The most expensive part is not the vines themselves (about £2.20 each or about $2.80). It is all the stakes, rabbit guards, trellis wire, ground anchors etc. We spent about £3000 or about $3600 on everything including the vines (300 in number). If that is too much to start, then scale it down to half or quarter that, or whatever you are comfortable with. I must admit we are still learning. We don’t get everything right.
Good luck with your endeavours and hope you get some vines soon.
please whats the distance between each post on a row?
I arrived at your TH-cam site almost by accident - was researching earth augers to install end-posts for our own vineyard project and saw your helpful review and then dug a bit deeper (sorry) and discovered that you're documenting your vineyard install. Absolutely chuffed I've found this - although we're slightly further south (SW France) you've provided so much useful information. Our own vineyard is about half the size , 150 vines, and we're a full year behind you, but the benefit of seeing your approach is reassuring when we see similarities and informative when (often) there's something we missed or haven't yet encountered (there's loads of info on the internet however filtering this can be long and arduous ) Looking forward to viewing the whole series. I suspect the one area you wont be covering is irrigation - our summers are hot and long and I'm installing drip irrigation in the next few weeks. Many thanks again for sharing this.
Hi rusty. Thank you for your comments. Really pleased you like the channel so far. Just waiting for the vines to develop a bit more before I do another video, but one will be coming soon. Good luck with your vineyard too. A
yes mine looks like a V should I cut one side and keep just one
Great video. Tip (from my own experience): the grass close to the plant will be in fierce competition with the young plants. In case you don't have enough growth by the end of the season, your stem will be too narrow (less than a pencil thick) and you'll have to start growing a new stem next season rather than continuing with a weak basis, which means you'd loose a year. Once plants are fully grown, the grasses won't harm anymore.
Hi Philip. Great advice, thank you, much appreciated.
Funnily enough, I have just started to weedkiller in between the vines, so that I can simply go up and down the rows with the lawn mower in future. I am hoping that this will help prevent the grass from competing with the vines.
Regarding thickening the stems of the weaker vines, would you advise nipping the growing tips off now, or letting them run for another few weeks?
@@mycountrylife810 I would not tip them now. Next year in April, decide what you'll do: remove them by cutting them back to two buds if they are weak, or trim them to the proper height at that moment.
Thank you Philip. Great advice.
@coffeeserf: So you used glyphosate to kill off vegetation on a land that nothing was grown for decades, and now you are using weed killer once your vines are developing?? Who is going to eat the poison you are growing, someone else? Sorry, this is so bad in my opinion. Why don't you till over the grass and use wood chips to lock in the moisture and prevent grass re-growth, naturally?
you make the video takes a long time, whereas it only took me 13.59 minutes to enjoy it.
Thx,s....
You are very welcome. Glad you liked it. Thank you.
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Just a question.
Isn't it better to let them have two main shoots and in early second year leave just two buds and train one main shoot till the first line. I think first 3 years crop isn't spectacular and at least the roots can grow properly and by year 3 the system is established even if you come back to two buds year 2. I planted some table grapevines 2 years ago and this year I came back to two buds, and it grew like 6 meters long as I am training it pergola system, I just left it grow and pinched where I didn't wanted shoots in early summer, and I already know where the cuts are gonna go next February.
These videos are so helpful. Just going to do 1 st year summer pruning . Carolyn in Devon .
Hi Carolyn
Wonderful! Good luck. Glad you like the videos.
Could you provide a link to the rabbit guard netting you used?
Thanks for this wonderful course!
Hello sir. What kind of fertilizer you used? And how to plant Grapevine in wet area cz my homeland was tropic area. Thanks😇
Thank you for the video! So helpful! Did you make a video on the costs/expenses? Would love to learn about that. If not, can I reach out to you?
Very good video. I am also training some few vines here in Nigeria and they're doing very well. Your video have really provided great ideas for me. Pls i'll need more of this information. Thanks so much.
by they way, I think you planted grass seed, in the start, so is it recommended to plant grass around the grapevine
5:50 nice early eve lighting. My first niagara white seedless grape year. So excited. 👍
Great Info, thank you
please whats the distance between each post on a row?
Hi Shola. The distance between the vines is approximately 2.5metres, but we measured our tractor width and made sure we could get the tractor down the rows. I think you could go wider, but narrower makes it difficult to get machinery in.
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Great instructional video. Thanks
Very useful video, thanks
Did you have to give the plants any water over summer? Do you plan on installing irrigation in the future?
That's a great question. We did water the vines when the weather was hot over the early summer and there was no real rain for about a month. We haven't got irrigation in place as yet, so we used a water bowser and a hose pipe. Took ages to water all of them though.
Trellis
Beautiful vineyards
Are you going to supply a local wine maker?
Not sure yet. We have a large local vineyard not far from us. But something says, that it would be more fun to try to make some wine ourselves.
Excellent video
cant wait for update
What made you choose this trellis strategy?
Hi Jeffrey. Simplicity really. I liked the relatively simple nature of Double Guyot method lends itself to this type of vertical trellising systme.
What's the total land area that you planted?
Hi Cameron. We have an acre field fenced off from deer and rabbits. At the moment only about a quarter of this acre has been planted with vines. But more to follow....
@@mycountrylife810 so about 1100 m2?
Thanks for the advice. I've planted my first vines this year & so far so good. Can you tell me if I should pinch off everything apart from the stalks/branches & leaves? I've got some tiny grapes appearing & some of the tendrils, attaching to themselves to everything in reach. I've been told I should be removing these, but I've noticed some tendrils still on your vines? Are these removals optional? Thanks.
Hi there. The aim in the first year is just to get the vine up to the main trellis wire. So find the best strongest shoot and pick off the other ones. You can pick of the little grapes in the first year, they won't develop into anything and takes energy away from the main shoot. Some vines take a year to establish so don't be surprised if some look s bit weedy, but the aim is to have one stem about a pencil thickness. Good luck in your vineyard. A
@@mycountrylife810 Awesome, thanks for taking the time to reply. That makes perfect sense. Thank you.
Need Part 4
Hi Rudy. Working on it. Should be available soon......
Thanks