Starting a Vineyard Part 14 - Winter Pruning (2nd year vines) for Double Guyot training system.
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- Anytime between January and the end of March is ideal time to prune the vines so they are ready for the new growing year.
In our vineyard we are using the Double Guyot method of training the vines, so the general shape that we are trying to achieve is a 'T' shape at the top of the main stem with each fruiting cane having about 8 to 10 buds. More or less everything else from the previous years growth can be cut off and discarded.
Remember these are second year vines, so the main fruiting canes that travel along the main trellis line are only one year old, so these can be left for the following year. Roll on one year from now and these canes will be 2 years old, so we would normally discard these fruiting canes and replace them with a suitable one year cane from the middle. This is why pruning second year vines is a bit different from older vines.
The main aim is to get rid of unnecessary growth from the previous year leaving one year old canes AND leaving some buds in the middle that will form new canes come summertime, two of which will become the following years fruiting canes. I hope this makes sense but message me if not.
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Please tell me what type of pruning is perfect for which variety of grapes.
Because i have 7 varieties of grapes in my garden i don't know what method should i use spur pruning vs cane pruning.
My grapes varities is:
1) Vitro Black
2) King Rubi
3) Flame Seedless
4) Narc Black
5) Early White
6) Sultaniya C
7) Shugraan
8) Perlet
Please continue with updates! I really appreciate these videos
What a fantastically helpful channel, I have been working at a newly planted vineyard in Sussex since September and these videos are super helpful, thank you for doing this!
Good job my friend!! May I trouble you for a quick question/answer? You mentioned that you leave the cane about 10-12 mm thick for your area - can you share what zone you are in? I would like to know how best to do likewise for a couple of vines that I've planted here in 'Western NY' - which is zone 6a. I'm an auto mechanic and just imagined using a 'wrench' to check the thicknesses that I might plan accordingly. Thank you again for sharing your knowledge.
Also... I noticed that you are very keen to NOT make any 'assumptions' on what the future will bring - thus I can tell that you are a wise man. Peace to you.
Thank you - very much appreciated. We are in Herefordshire UK, so the zones that you refer to are probably US specific, but don't get too worried about cane thicknesses - We have vines that have survived the winter here which are much thinner than 10mm, but if Western NY gets very cold then thicker the better.
Good Video
I love this series I started my mini vineyard last spring and your videos have been so helpful. Thank you!
Hiya! Have you made a follow-up video on those 3-year-olds? (Yes, I looked for it first ;) ) I feel inspired to follow your techniques, suddenly forming seems way easier c:
Hi there. Yes, we have some more videos on these vines since this video. If you click on our channel (clicking on our icon should take you there). If you then click on the playlists, you should find all our vineyard videos. I think the video on the 2nd year vines is part 14 and we are up to part 25, so there are quite a few videos you can watch to get some updates. Happy watching - Anthony
Thanks for the informative video. I'm curious... about how many bunches of grapes will you get from one cane with 8 buds?
I would say at least 8 but you should get more. If it looks like they are not all developing you can always thin them later in the season. Having two canes with 8-10 buds on each cane will give you plenty of bunches.
inreresting you use reo steel rod for the trunks. We use string to train the vine to the cordon wire, then top tie the vine in year two to keep the trunk straight. what's the variety?
Love your video and great to see the vineyard coming along. Excited to see the next video in the series. How has your first batch of wine gone from last years harvest? Would be really interested to see a video on this process as well 🙂
I'm worried he's stopped posting updates
20 buds seems like way too many to leave on a 2 yr old vine . You don't get growth issues during the season? Thanks for the video
Not so far. In fact we are constantly cutting growth back. Grapes mature too, but it's always good to alter things if the environment that they are in doesn't support that many clusters.
Could you also share the costs you've made in total of everything ? kind regards and thank you
Can’t wait for the next update in the summer
Thank you for the clear explanation. One question: is it possible to grow one of those canes vertically and cut it just below the top cable and get two canes grow out of it to go to left and right on the top cable?
What is the reason for only having 1 year old canes? He may have mentioned it, and I missed it.
So the vine puts its growing energy into the new growth and fruit, not into supporting old wood ( 2+years.....)plus the new growth. The canes growing from the old wood are pruned back to 2 bud spurs. Spur pruning is more common in hot climates, Australia for example, and it results in heavier canopies which are not a good idea in a wetter less sunny British climate.
@@JollyJumbuk thank you
Thanks buddy u made it easy to figure out
So I understand your doing cane pruning and not sper?
Excellent video sir. Thank you.
Awesome updates! Loving your content
Your videos helped me a lot! I got a 75 vineyard planted this year. Hope you keep uploading. Lets also watch the wine section. 😄 Greetings from Portugal.
That is awesome!
What is the benefit of the guyot system where the two horizontal arms are replaced by a renewal arm each year versus leaving the two arms permanent such that they grow big or thick, and only pruning back the buds (whether pruning buds completely or leaving a bud or two on each one)? Thanks!
Really helpful as always ! Looking forward to seeing your Part 2. video on your wine making. I've just planted another row of Solaris & Pinot Gris this month. They seem to do really well in Yorkshire soil.
I have loved watching your vineyard series and have learned a lot! We hope to start our own little vineyard in the next few years. Question i have is why do you have to replace the canes that produce fruit this year with new ones next year? Do they always have to be one year old canes to produce the grapes?
Great question. There are lots of different methods of training and pruning vines, some of which use existing fruiting canes year after year. This tends to be called 'cordon' training. The Guyot method only uses one year old canes. The method used depends on preference but also environment as some methods are more susceptible to moisture loss in hot countries. The relative aggressive pruning in the Guyot method encourages the Vine to grow more strongly and in a more controlled way, especially in our temperate damp climates.
@@mycountrylife810 Oooh Okay makes sense thanks for the clarification! We will have to research that before we start our little vineyard. Keep up the great content!!!
I appreciate your video and they have helped a lot with my 75 plant vineyard, i was wondering, how did you learn how to tend to grape vines
Another super video. How is your wine coming along from last year?
Finished the last bottle they other day!! I will make some videos on how we did it but probably on next year's grapes.
The wine was surprisingly good given that it was only our first attempt but hopefully even better next year....
@@mycountrylife810 fantastic stuff. Very well deserved.
Best practical tutorial for beginner but i think if u discuss about fertilizer, it will be more effective. Thanks from bangladesh. Wait for 3rd years video.
Hi there Many thanks for your comment. A video on fertilizer will follow soon.....
Fantastic video.
Thanks Andrew
Thank you very much for your information
Buds should be sprouting!!
best videos on YT. Great job.
thank you for your training
Thanks for the grapevine information. 👍 God is good.