Jaxson Dart or Will Howard are viable options outside of round 1. We need Abdul Carter or Mason Graham plain and simple. This defense is way too light in the ass on the Dline outside of Myles. 1. Abdul Carter/Mason Graham 2. Quinshon Judkins, Kaleb Johnson, Henderson. 3. Will Howard/Jaxson Dart
@@mikejelinek1413 He’s more pro ready than ppl think. Ppl think I’m biased but qbs who marry their feet to their shoulders and process like Will Howard have huge success at the pro level he will be a good qb at the next level in my humble opinion, I love Will
@@sly0422 yeah he definitely liked being adored by fans in Texas…. I don’t Know ANYONE that likes Watson as a QB, he was just horrible…. I can’t even believe how bad he was.. It was shocking so say the least, he always had a look on his face like, WTF am I doing ?!?! Worst Browns season EVER.
Unless the Browns believe in Sanders or Ward, you don't draft a QB just for the sake of drafting a QB. You would be much better served trading for or signing an available one.
Just sign Justin Fields and draft Jaxon Dart or Will Howard to stash and develop. Trade that #2 Pick to a sucka who wants to reach on either of those 2 mediocre QBs. Then get a bunch of top 100 stud players with the picks.
@@davidharcula2933 I am still hoping the City of Cleveland uses their Model Law to force Haslam to sell the franchise to Browns fans, like the Green Bay Packers are ran by their fans. Browns fans can find $5.5B underneath their couch cushions.
Just fire DePoo, AB, and Stefanski now if they are going to waste a #2 Pick reaching on a QB in a desperate attempt to extend their failing careers. This isn't a very strong QB draft class, especially at the top of it. Taking any of those QBs in the 1st would be ridiculous.
@@Dennis-1767dr Why is the NFL QB failure rate so ridiculously high if these NFL Scouts are so great at their jobs? The Browns haven't been able to find a franchise QB in 25+ years.
@@Dennis-1767dr are you a troll... It's very simple! By picking a QB at #2 you are saying that QB IS THE SECOND BEST PERSON OUT OF ALL OF COLLEGE FOOTBALL!!! We know that is not true. There are other players way better in their respective positions!!
Nobody was talking about Cam Ward quitting at halftime until some insecure people wanted to criticize him. Even the guy that was announcing that game gave Cam Ward credit for his competitiveness, for even playing at all, when he didn't have to play. This is an era where players sit out of bowl games. He played a full half and his team was leading.
Plus Cam the Quitter and She-Dork don't even fit Stefanski's antiquated high school style offense because the only thing they like to do is hold onto the ball, run around, and play out of structure. If Stefanski's offense didn't work with Watson, who is a better QB then either of these guys, then it's going to be a total disaster with either of them. Justin Fields is better then all the QBs in this draft class and he will soon be a free agent.
@@smercxz I agree about Callahan, but their aging (over 30) O-Linemen are falling apart and always injured. They should fire all the ivy league baseball analytical nerds and hire Vrabel.
@henrylinder7534 he's a gimmick! Nothing I've seen from him makes me think he can cover : Chase, Flowers, or Pickens. Therefore he is useless on Defense and offense. Winning the Heisman means nothing in the NFL
@a1ch3mistDexter guess we will see but in my opinion I think the browns should go DT. The interior D-line is weak. Browns get washed there all the time
McNuggets, Sanders has had 4 different OCs in 4 years. Its almost as if his dad was challenging him to overcome a hurdle he could face in the NFL. I cant say for sure, but no o line, no run game, multiple OCs still produced, made the program relevant again. Makes you wonder what he would have done if he was at a school like Oregon.
The Browns need to bring in outside consultant on this. Remember Andrew Berry was a part of the Front Office who had a higher grade on Mitchell Trubisky than they had on Patrick Mahomes and Deshaun Watson in 2017. And I believe he was part of the front office that picked Baker Mayfield over Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson. So you really need to bring in an outside consultant that has a proven track record at evaluating and quarterbacks. Don't listen to the media, and don't listen to the fans, go to the senior bowl to watch the workouts, go to the combine and conduct interviews and watch the workouts and then bring in the top quarterbacks in for a private workout to see if they are comfortable with taking snaps from under center, and are able to be coached into executing the key elements of Stefanski's offense. Once all of that is done, then you rack and stack the quarterback candidates, and if your guy is expected to go in the top 5, then take him with pick #2. Don't try to be too cute with this thing.
G, stop speaking for other people. The first thing I'm going to think of with Sanders is 100% his play. I care about winning. And I don't like that the Browns have garbage in the trenches. I want them to draft Mason Graham or Abdul Carter. Then I want them to load up on OL. I think that will help this team more than taking a 2nd round QB at #2. If I want to take a QB, I'm going to look at Milroe in the 3rd. Either that, or I'm going to HOPE that Allar declares and I'd take him at #2 and be done with it.
It's too early to say....there is a lot of evaluation and scouting that need to be done, but I think the only SURE THING is Abdul Carter.....a QB in the 2nd or 3rd round will still be HEAD & SHOULDERS better than what we have!
If they don't feel Ward or Sanders are not worthy of a #2 pick (personally, I don't they are, not seeing a "Burrow" in this draft), don't do it, trade back, but stay in the top #10, there are a few teams in the top 10 who also need a QB, maybe they will reach for #2, we have plenty of needs to fill, use picks to fix the running game, improve the defense, and get a quarterback later that we can develop
Imagine having a 3-14 season and trading back for "picks" and missing out on blue chip talent. Idk why fans buy into the trade down crap. This org has done this for so long. They traded out of Julio Jones for a haul and got nothing to show for it. They got a haul for Wentz and got nothing. Stop the nonsense.
I do not like the idea of sanders to the browns. We all know our record with drafting QBs. The one good one we drafted. We messed him over pretty bad. Therefore if sanders comes and does good. It’ll be all him. But if he does bad, it’ll be the organization fault. With the drama of his father. It could be terrible. On the other hand, this may be our chance to finally get rid of stefanski. If sanders does decent he may say he wants his dad as coach. 😂. Or I could see his dad telling him to sit out and demand a trade lol. I guess I’m all over the place. But that situation could go so many ways. The bad ones are terrible tho.
I don't agree on the Travis Hunter take. If he's a stud at the next level it either A) ensures we have corner locked on both sides and/or B) gives the Browns some cushion if Ward keeps getting concussions. Ward is a stud, but I have to wonder how many more years he can take these head injuries. I think he has to be in the conversation, especially if a trade keeps them high in the draft. Better not go below 3 though.
Of course they’re going to pick a QB at 2 “no matter what” because if that weren’t the message the value of the number 2 pick goes down. You can be sure of a couple things at this point, they don’t know what they’re going to do at this point, anything is on the table at this point.
G sorry but youre way off the mark here. Not everyone in every fan base is going to love every player that comes here. Either way if they dont play well, they're like meter is gonna go down. Its common sense.
The Browns will end up trading down and getting someone like Abdul Carter and working in one of the quarterbacks with one of the picks they traded down with hopefully Drew Allen
Even if Deshawn is the starter next yr. You have the number 2 pick . The top 2 picks are qbs Ward and Sanders . You draft one of them you may be a bad team next yr but not be in the top 5 picks and cant get the top qb or top 2 your missing the boat. Let kevo draft even if its in the 2nd round the qb that fits his offense playcalling. And hold him and Berry acountable.
Bull is the most negative human being on the planet!!! Chase Daniel has nothing to do with this conversation. And is he really comparing his injury to an athletes injury? WTF
If Jayden Daniels, Caleb Williams, Drake Maye, Michael Penix, JJ McCarthy, and Bo Nix were in this draft, Sanders and Ward would compete with those last two for 5th and 6th of all the QBs taken.
I would think you could have a setback on any injury, if you hurt it one time, you certainly can hurt it again. You can hurt it before it has even healed. It's not that complicated to understand really.
The Titans would take him at #1 and teams would offer them ridiculous amounts to trade up if Drew Allar was in this draft because he's a better prospect then Cam or She-Dork because nobody is trading up for either of those overrated QBs. Allar hasn't made up his mind, so it's a possibility depending on how PSU finishes in the playoffs.
Nobody knows if the QBs at the top will be good or not, but "fit" is a big deal. Hit rate on any qb round 2 or later is lotto ticket low and basically a waste of pick. Only Hurts and Purdy are NFL starters since 2017, so for the get a qb later crowd you're massively misinformed. DTR was a 5th round pick that the "fans" thought could be the next Browns qb. Turns out he wont be in the NFL next year, and he had a playoff roster to work with. My biggest thing is if you dont love a qb, dont take him. But I'd love to know their plan to address the position. Patch work vet qb and a mid rounder is a recipe for disaster. Basically telling KS go win ball games with Drew Lock, 3rd round flier, and Zappe. Like wtf is that, and thats what Joel wants to come back to, or MG to compete with? I'm fine with a vet and qb #2 because you can play now and have a qb of the future in your program. You have to assume they wont be in the position to get a qb next year and if they are everyone is fired. Lets say they win 6 games but keep their jobs, well now the organization has to trade mutliple picks to move up to get a qb, and if the qbs are as good as the internet is saying (which I dont see it) then those teams are the qb starved teams right now and they're not trading with you. So you end up stuck in mediocrity. This team won 3 games with the DPOY and future 1st ballot HOF. No position matters more than qb. I think this team is going to have issues finding an OC that is a good offensive mind because its a job that nobody wants. No clue who the qb is, do you get to call plays, and if it all goes south are you or the staff fired in a year? Big questions. Maybe ownership doesnt care if KS and AB win 5 games next year idk.
If they don't like the quarterbacks at the top of the draft then don't draft a quarterback. They still may want to keep that number to pick to get the best player available. Who are the players they feel will help their team the most. I like Abdul Carter and Mason Graham if they don't get Cam Ward.
The more I think about this I don't understand how KS is safe. He's fired 4 coordinators now and should be 5 with how bad the ST was this year. This info that the Bills told KS how bad Dorsey was and he hired him anyways is insane. I assumed the Dorsey move was pushed on him but this report makes it seem otherwise.
I agree with Dustin. For me, Cam Ward is the clear QB 1 in this class. And I also agree that the Browns CANNOT draft Travis Hunter. Kevin Stefanski doesn't know what to do with Travis Hunter. Period. Elite coaches like Andy Reid and Sean Payton do.
What does race have to do with it? Browns fans didn't like the clown show surrounding Johnny Manziel either and Baker Mayfield had more commercials than wins and Browns fans were exhausted by him too.
Baker has made the playoffs twice, won his division twice, leads the nfl in tds over the last 2 years, led the nfc in total yards and completion percentage this year, and made the probowl twice. And since the trade deshaun is 8-10 with the lowest qbr in the nfl among qualified passers.
Baker played a full season with one arm for the browns. He never quit on the team. Maybe your thinking about deshaun choosing to sit out a whole season and quitting on his team mates in houston while completely healthy.
I could not disagree more with Dustin here. Not only can the Browns take Travis Hunter, they should. Top talent in the draft. “Not in a position” to draft him doesn’t make any sense. They were 3-14. The only position they’re in is at the bottom. Pick the best player.
G.....if you are a Cleveland Brown....you have ABSOLUTELY NO BUSINESS talking trash, dancing, flashing ice, doing the griddy, team end zone dancing......NOTHING.....for now its SHUT UP AND PLAY FOOTBALL....put together something that resembles a professional football team first. Stop jumping offsides, line up correctly, catch passes, pick up blitzes, make extra points and field goals, cover recievers, make tackles....etc
It’s surprising that any good NFL coach would tolerate dancing, celebrating and fancy handshakes after every play as the team is having its azz handed to them by their opponent. Yes, many of these players are narcissistic man-children with barely a 6th grade education, but coaches need to teach proper on-field decorum. I don’t want it to be the No Fun League, but Browns players look like morons skipping around and taunting the opponent that is beating them like a rented mule.
G-Bush take started off strong with Ohio being in a conservative mindset, but he tend to get off the rails with his take! I remember hearing fans all over and granted I am in Texas were hyped up about your Browns getting Beckham. So him saying they did not want to like him is not true! 🤷🏾
Yea the reason people didn't like obj is because he wasn't that good. Landry kept putting up better stats and wouldn't drop as many balls as obj. And now look obj ain't had over 500 yards in a season since he left clevland. Ain't made a probowl since 2016... a decade ago.
You need to draft a franchise quarterback...actually should of kept the one you drafted in the first place with baker....quarterback is the most important position and you won't get another pick this high
@Kelemor the last one we drafted turned out pretty good...other than qb you have travis hunter and the end from Penn state....we have both positions already top 5 and we still lose...qb makes the difference
@ and reaching for qb because of name and not skill lands you Johnny Manziel. Sanders other then name what has he done in college football. How did do in his playoff games vs teams other than big 12 teams. Cam Ward 2 years at FCS school (one being Covid) 2 years at Washington state. Where he was going to come out but the scouts said prolly don’t want to do that. So he heads to the ACC to stat pad and collect that sweet sweet NIL money. How is his playoff game go…..oh that’s right he opted out after he got records. Great team mate right there. Baker is gone get over it. Two other teams didn’t think he was worth signing long term and he goes to Brady’s Tampa bay team. 9-7 and 10-7 does wonders in the NFC south. I think him getting bounced a few time humbled him and now he want to play football. That’s great for Tampa bay Trade down with the raiders let them take sanders and take the DE to put on the opposite side of Myles. Myles won’t be there forever.
@Kelemor how many people you want to put next to garrett for this imaginary unstoppable combo that we keep searching for? Clowney, Smith , Vernon...We have a top5 end and corner already and it's not working so why would you draft them same positions above a quarterback who you desperately need because Watson makes ridiculous money and sucks? The only reason you don't draft a quarterback is if you trade garrett.
Dart has the best size arm and mobility combination in the group but throws to many interceptjons reminictent of the same thing said about HOF Brett Favre....just saying dont sleep on Dart he should be a mid 1st rd pick.
@@anthonypa8045 agreed... its like the good news is they have plenty of draft picks and with #2 they are in a great position to trade back, the bad news is it is going to be Berry/Podeseta making the picks, :(
Ward sure is without a doubt he is but Sanders is a big no at the 2nd pick then trade down. Hey the penn st and ohio st QB's look like young Joe Flacco's you can get late 2nd rd to 3rd rds .
It is January and it is the beginning of silly season, so take every single rumor with a grain of salt. But I will just say that Andrew Berry and Kevin Stefanski are both roasting on the hot seat right now, and the more I look at the bridge QB options, the higher the probability I believe it is that they will get everybody fired. So I would suggest that the Browns find one of these QBs to like and then draft them.
Cam ward is a dawg! People who wasn’t anything in there playing days don’t see special! And bull you have no idea about any sport let alone football! What a joke😅 if we pass on ward I’ll be sick
i dont agree. you have to trade back to accumulate more draft capital next year for a class that may have more top end qb talent. 2025 is probably going to be similar to 2025 without a solid vet qb which there does not appear to be many in this years market.
Jaxson Dart or Will Howard are viable options outside of round 1.
We need Abdul Carter or Mason Graham plain and simple. This defense is way too light in the ass on the Dline outside of Myles.
1. Abdul Carter/Mason Graham
2. Quinshon Judkins, Kaleb Johnson, Henderson.
3. Will Howard/Jaxson Dart
Will Howard is a prototype Stefanski QB. Perfect fit!
Game changers for sure. Be a A+ Draft.
@@mikejelinek1413 He’s more pro ready than ppl think. Ppl think I’m biased but qbs who marry their feet to their shoulders and process like Will Howard have huge success at the pro level he will be a good qb at the next level in my humble opinion, I love Will
@@tommyestepp2497I have faith in AB and KS 🙏🏼
She literally has no information,shes just stating an opinion
I think Watsons “setback” is MENTAL. All that off the field drama is broken the MAN and he’s TOAST.
I agree with you and he did it to himself.
@ absolutely
yea he is a broken qb
Same thing happened to tiger woods, reputation shot, lost mojo bc of it and I think Deshaun genuinely cared about being liked and that ship sailed
@@sly0422 yeah he definitely liked being adored by fans in Texas…. I don’t Know ANYONE that likes Watson as a QB, he was just horrible…. I can’t even believe how bad he was.. It was shocking so say the least, he always had a look on his face like, WTF am I doing ?!?! Worst Browns season EVER.
If penn state quarterback declares for the draft we need to draft that kid.
Unless the Browns believe in Sanders or Ward, you don't draft a QB just for the sake of drafting a QB. You would be much better served trading for or signing an available one.
Trade down get and exta 2 and 3 ans dtaft Dart at QB later in the 1st rd.
I don’t even know if y’all watch the qbs we just ran out but u pray to god we hit on the pick and not cry about the risk of using it there
Just sign Justin Fields and draft Jaxon Dart or Will Howard to stash and develop. Trade that #2 Pick to a sucka who wants to reach on either of those 2 mediocre QBs. Then get a bunch of top 100 stud players with the picks.
Still remember keeping your money and boycott Jimmy hasbeen untill he sells the brown s
@@davidharcula2933 I am still hoping the City of Cleveland uses their Model Law to force Haslam to sell the franchise to Browns fans, like the Green Bay Packers are ran by their fans. Browns fans can find $5.5B underneath their couch cushions.
Bull is correct....people are mad when you suck!!! Bottom line!
Do not draft A QB OVERALL AT #2 !!! ITS AB OVERREACH!!!
Just fire DePoo, AB, and Stefanski now if they are going to waste a #2 Pick reaching on a QB in a desperate attempt to extend their failing careers. This isn't a very strong QB draft class, especially at the top of it. Taking any of those QBs in the 1st would be ridiculous.
So are you a NFL talent evaluator. What team do you scout for. WE HAVE NO IDEA IF THEY ARE WORTHY. YOU JUST PARROT WHAT YOU HEAR
@@Dennis-1767dr Why is the NFL QB failure rate so ridiculously high if these NFL Scouts are so great at their jobs? The Browns haven't been able to find a franchise QB in 25+ years.
@@Dennis-1767dr are you a troll... It's very simple! By picking a QB at #2 you are saying that QB IS THE SECOND BEST PERSON OUT OF ALL OF COLLEGE FOOTBALL!!! We know that is not true. There are other players way better in their respective positions!!
Ever hear of drafting for need?@@a1ch3mistDexter
We need a QB,DE,OL,RB,LB, Receiver,new owner
G, I usually agree with you but I think you're reaching in this one.
I think most of us don't think Shedeur sanders will be as good as his dad.
Nobody was talking about Cam Ward quitting at halftime until some insecure people wanted to criticize him. Even the guy that was announcing that game gave Cam Ward credit for his competitiveness, for even playing at all, when he didn't have to play. This is an era where players sit out of bowl games. He played a full half and his team was leading.
The Browns have QB troubles every year and the owners are part of the problem.
if they pick a QB he'sgonna get killed with our offensive line! answer, pick a lineman
Plus Cam the Quitter and She-Dork don't even fit Stefanski's antiquated high school style offense because the only thing they like to do is hold onto the ball, run around, and play out of structure. If Stefanski's offense didn't work with Watson, who is a better QB then either of these guys, then it's going to be a total disaster with either of them. Justin Fields is better then all the QBs in this draft class and he will soon be a free agent.
Oline was fine under Callahan with the same personnel. It was coaching and the trash ass scheme Dorset ran. We don’t need OL in the top 5 hard pass
@@smercxz I agree about Callahan, but their aging (over 30) O-Linemen are falling apart and always injured. They should fire all the ivy league baseball analytical nerds and hire Vrabel.
@@roris5882that says alot because Fields is garbage’s
@@roris5882 Agreed.
Wouldn’t mind Travis Hunter. These qb’s aren’t worth the top picks
@@joe_mama7590 Travis Hunter solves 0 problems we have! Abdul Carter is the help Myles needs at DE. Can't double team then both!!
@ I wouldn’t have a problem with that either. Paul depodesta would disagree with you 😂. And that’s a compliment
@@a1ch3mistDexter you're wrong we need a starting CB and on some plays he can help out at receiver
@henrylinder7534 he's a gimmick! Nothing I've seen from him makes me think he can cover : Chase, Flowers, or Pickens. Therefore he is useless on Defense and offense. Winning the Heisman means nothing in the NFL
@a1ch3mistDexter guess we will see but in my opinion I think the browns should go DT. The interior D-line is weak. Browns get washed there all the time
Oh no. There are so many problems with the team. Consider the best player available
Not a smokescreen....newsflash...we need a QB.
Somebody with sense
Why isn't Travis option or Abdul Carter
I think Sanders and Ward both suck. They probably won't make it in the NFL unless they're like that guy from the Washington commanders
Ward did look good in his last bowl appearance, hasn't faced much pressure this year though compared to what he'll face in the NFL.
McNuggets, Sanders has had 4 different OCs in 4 years. Its almost as if his dad was challenging him to overcome a hurdle he could face in the NFL. I cant say for sure, but no o line, no run game, multiple OCs still produced, made the program relevant again. Makes you wonder what he would have done if he was at a school like Oregon.
Travis Hunter is the right pick Buffalo would’ve been trash without him
It's the owners call, G is spot on.
Good hopefully they can force him to sell. Next to Jerry jones jimmah is fking horrible
The Browns need to bring in outside consultant on this. Remember Andrew Berry was a part of the Front Office who had a higher grade on Mitchell Trubisky than they had on Patrick Mahomes and Deshaun Watson in 2017. And I believe he was part of the front office that picked Baker Mayfield over Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson. So you really need to bring in an outside consultant that has a proven track record at evaluating and quarterbacks. Don't listen to the media, and don't listen to the fans, go to the senior bowl to watch the workouts, go to the combine and conduct interviews and watch the workouts and then bring in the top quarterbacks in for a private workout to see if they are comfortable with taking snaps from under center, and are able to be coached into executing the key elements of Stefanski's offense. Once all of that is done, then you rack and stack the quarterback candidates, and if your guy is expected to go in the top 5, then take him with pick #2. Don't try to be too cute with this thing.
What G looks down on as being conservative . Is called being professional, we won’t professional players .
You won't professional players? Maybe, you should want to learn how to spell.
I like Dart the most. Not sure when he’ll come off the board. These chicks don’t know what they’re talking about
We all know you have a crush on Daxson. You cream urself thinking about him
G, stop speaking for other people. The first thing I'm going to think of with Sanders is 100% his play. I care about winning. And I don't like that the Browns have garbage in the trenches.
I want them to draft Mason Graham or Abdul Carter. Then I want them to load up on OL.
I think that will help this team more than taking a 2nd round QB at #2. If I want to take a QB, I'm going to look at Milroe in the 3rd. Either that, or I'm going to HOPE that Allar declares and I'd take him at #2 and be done with it.
It's too early to say....there is a lot of evaluation and scouting that need to be done, but I think the only SURE THING is Abdul Carter.....a QB in the 2nd or 3rd round will still be HEAD & SHOULDERS better than what we have!
You should watch Mason Graham.
You're welcome.
If they don't feel Ward or Sanders are not worthy of a #2 pick (personally, I don't they are, not seeing a "Burrow" in this draft), don't do it, trade back, but stay in the top #10, there are a few teams in the top 10 who also need a QB, maybe they will reach for #2, we have plenty of needs to fill, use picks to fix the running game, improve the defense, and get a quarterback later that we can develop
Imagine having a 3-14 season and trading back for "picks" and missing out on blue chip talent. Idk why fans buy into the trade down crap. This org has done this for so long. They traded out of Julio Jones for a haul and got nothing to show for it. They got a haul for Wentz and got nothing. Stop the nonsense.
I do not like the idea of sanders to the browns. We all know our record with drafting QBs. The one good one we drafted. We messed him over pretty bad. Therefore if sanders comes and does good. It’ll be all him. But if he does bad, it’ll be the organization fault. With the drama of his father. It could be terrible. On the other hand, this may be our chance to finally get rid of stefanski. If sanders does decent he may say he wants his dad as coach. 😂. Or I could see his dad telling him to sit out and demand a trade lol. I guess I’m all over the place. But that situation could go so many ways. The bad ones are terrible tho.
Let's be honest. Deion will not let his son go to Cleveland.
lol @QuincyCarrier called it
I don't agree on the Travis Hunter take. If he's a stud at the next level it either A) ensures we have corner locked on both sides and/or B) gives the Browns some cushion if Ward keeps getting concussions. Ward is a stud, but I have to wonder how many more years he can take these head injuries. I think he has to be in the conversation, especially if a trade keeps them high in the draft. Better not go below 3 though.
Of course they’re going to pick a QB at 2 “no matter what” because if that weren’t the message the value of the number 2 pick goes down. You can be sure of a couple things at this point, they don’t know what they’re going to do at this point, anything is on the table at this point.
G sorry but youre way off the mark here. Not everyone in every fan base is going to love every player that comes here. Either way if they dont play well, they're like meter is gonna go down. Its common sense.
The Browns will end up trading down and getting someone like Abdul Carter and working in one of the quarterbacks with one of the picks they traded down with hopefully Drew Allen
A good coach will know how to use Travis Hunter. If Thanos is healthy LT is off the table
Isn’t she the one the former Washington GM’s wife accused on twitter of giving “oral favors”for scoops. Now her podcast is called scoops city 😂
Even if Deshawn is the starter next yr. You have the number 2 pick . The top 2 picks are qbs Ward and Sanders . You draft one of them you may be a bad team next yr but not be in the top 5 picks and cant get the top qb or top 2 your missing the boat. Let kevo draft even if its in the 2nd round the qb that fits his offense playcalling. And hold him and Berry acountable.
Bull is the most negative human being on the planet!!! Chase Daniel has nothing to do with this conversation. And is he really comparing his injury to an athletes injury? WTF
Will Howard or Dart in Rd 3
I’m ok with sanders if he’s a good qb. Just be sure before you pick him
If Jayden Daniels, Caleb Williams, Drake Maye, Michael Penix, JJ McCarthy, and Bo Nix were in this draft, Sanders and Ward would compete with those last two for 5th and 6th of all the QBs taken.
Problem with your philosophy is...Bo Nix looks like the best qb of the class as of now...and folks had him rated 2nd/3rd round.
@@Browns4life Yeah, but it's just 1 year. I'll let this one play out.
This a signal for the giants or raiders to trade up. We xan get ny's 1st round pick next year and take Arch or Drew
smoke signal
I would not waste your first pick on a left tkl. When been down that road look at our history.
I would think you could have a setback on any injury, if you hurt it one time, you certainly can hurt it again. You can hurt it before it has even healed. It's not that complicated to understand really.
Wondered your guys thought on Joe Milton at the patriots. I’d give a 3rd for him today
Could the Penn State QB jump towards the top? Body type like Josh Allen and a very good arm as well.
The Titans would take him at #1 and teams would offer them ridiculous amounts to trade up if Drew Allar was in this draft because he's a better prospect then Cam or She-Dork because nobody is trading up for either of those overrated QBs. Allar hasn't made up his mind, so it's a possibility depending on how PSU finishes in the playoffs.
G IS 100% RIGHT THE FANBASE TRASH
Will Howard in the 2nd or 3rd
Will Howard is a nfl qb
Playoffs with this rookie QB class. Good luck with that. More like a 6-win season is in line.
No Berry was still with Philadelphia when Baker was drafted. And you see at this present time Baker wasn't the problem.
Selecting a quarterback who doesn't do well, won't buy Stefanski or anyone else more time.
In 2019 ODB had a 1000 yrd rec .
G Bush calling out the fan bullshit! Way to go dude
Dianna Rossini? Okay, let go.
If the Brown’s stay at #2 pick. They need to take Hunter he’s Off/Def player. Prob best in the draft.
This girl is clueless. She talks about a rookie beating DW out in camp, well, i should hope because he won't even be healthy then.
even if he was fully healthy, i know middle school qbs that could beat out deshaun, he has been terrible
seems like another national reporter who has no idea what is going on
Stefansky and the gm want to keep their jobs and without a qb they won't. You think the gm cares about 'acquiring assets' for a future gm?
i think our gm have no idea what he is doing.
@@nflnmichael I agree. I get fried for saying this usually but Berry is great with the books but AWFUL at talent evaluation and roster building
Nobody knows if the QBs at the top will be good or not, but "fit" is a big deal. Hit rate on any qb round 2 or later is lotto ticket low and basically a waste of pick. Only Hurts and Purdy are NFL starters since 2017, so for the get a qb later crowd you're massively misinformed. DTR was a 5th round pick that the "fans" thought could be the next Browns qb. Turns out he wont be in the NFL next year, and he had a playoff roster to work with.
My biggest thing is if you dont love a qb, dont take him. But I'd love to know their plan to address the position. Patch work vet qb and a mid rounder is a recipe for disaster. Basically telling KS go win ball games with Drew Lock, 3rd round flier, and Zappe. Like wtf is that, and thats what Joel wants to come back to, or MG to compete with? I'm fine with a vet and qb #2 because you can play now and have a qb of the future in your program.
You have to assume they wont be in the position to get a qb next year and if they are everyone is fired. Lets say they win 6 games but keep their jobs, well now the organization has to trade mutliple picks to move up to get a qb, and if the qbs are as good as the internet is saying (which I dont see it) then those teams are the qb starved teams right now and they're not trading with you. So you end up stuck in mediocrity.
This team won 3 games with the DPOY and future 1st ballot HOF. No position matters more than qb.
I think this team is going to have issues finding an OC that is a good offensive mind because its a job that nobody wants. No clue who the qb is, do you get to call plays, and if it all goes south are you or the staff fired in a year? Big questions. Maybe ownership doesnt care if KS and AB win 5 games next year idk.
Their own dysfunction, ineptitude is going to prohibit them from selecting Sanders because his pops aint going to allow him to come here
If they don't like the quarterbacks at the top of the draft then don't draft a quarterback. They still may want to keep that number to pick to get the best player available. Who are the players they feel will help their team the most. I like Abdul Carter and Mason Graham if they don't get Cam Ward.
I would say the same thing if I wanted everyone to think I was drafting a QB but I wasn't...
The Silly Season has begun.
The more I think about this I don't understand how KS is safe. He's fired 4 coordinators now and should be 5 with how bad the ST was this year. This info that the Bills told KS how bad Dorsey was and he hired him anyways is insane. I assumed the Dorsey move was pushed on him but this report makes it seem otherwise.
G is right we need to come away with a different maker, so don't trade down too far.
I agree with Dustin. For me, Cam Ward is the clear QB 1 in this class. And I also agree that the Browns CANNOT draft Travis Hunter. Kevin Stefanski doesn't know what to do with Travis Hunter. Period. Elite coaches like Andy Reid and Sean Payton do.
I normally love Gs takes.....but when he gets caught up with the race card stuff, disguised as "conservatism", its just a bad take.
Yea, it's pathetic. Old and corny. Can't keep falling back on that every single take.
What does race have to do with it? Browns fans didn't like the clown show surrounding Johnny Manziel either and Baker Mayfield had more commercials than wins and Browns fans were exhausted by him too.
@@trippeddownthestairs8238 exactly!
Shedur can't block for himself!
He wasn’t even talking about race in that take. What are you talking about?
This is NOT the year to draft a franchise quarterback. It will be yet another wasted first round pick for the Browns.
That can happen no matter who they take. It can go either way.
The team is a reflection Bull of your front office and coaching staff. Thats not very good
They hated Baker and loved Watson. How did that work out?
Baker has made the playoffs twice, won his division twice, leads the nfl in tds over the last 2 years, led the nfc in total yards and completion percentage this year, and made the probowl twice. And since the trade deshaun is 8-10 with the lowest qbr in the nfl among qualified passers.
And plus the fans love to bring race as the issue...
Baker quit on the Browns
Baker played a full season with one arm for the browns. He never quit on the team. Maybe your thinking about deshaun choosing to sit out a whole season and quitting on his team mates in houston while completely healthy.
The only thing we CAN be certain about is: Thr Cleveland Browns will still suck and continue to suck.
Still remember All Bull and the lies nobody.wants DW.
A Dart at say pick 22 i-m confident in the pick being the right one worthy ofcthat gamble .
Pick 22 has worked out so well for us 😮
Draft Hunter with the 2nd pick and a QB in the later rounds
LOL you guys are funny.
Trade back a couple of spots and Draft Tet McMillen
I could not disagree more with Dustin here. Not only can the Browns take Travis Hunter, they should. Top talent in the draft. “Not in a position” to draft him doesn’t make any sense. They were 3-14. The only position they’re in is at the bottom. Pick the best player.
G.....if you are a Cleveland Brown....you have ABSOLUTELY NO BUSINESS talking trash, dancing, flashing ice, doing the griddy, team end zone dancing......NOTHING.....for now its SHUT UP AND PLAY FOOTBALL....put together something that resembles a professional football team first.
Stop jumping offsides, line up correctly, catch passes, pick up blitzes, make extra points and field goals, cover recievers, make tackles....etc
Hire Vrabel and get rid of all those ivy league baseball analytical nerds.
It’s surprising that any good NFL coach would tolerate dancing, celebrating and fancy handshakes after every play as the team is having its azz handed to them by their opponent. Yes, many of these players are narcissistic man-children with barely a 6th grade education, but coaches need to teach proper on-field decorum.
I don’t want it to be the No Fun League, but Browns players look like morons skipping around and taunting the opponent that is beating them like a rented mule.
Smoke screen
G-Bush take started off strong with Ohio being in a conservative mindset, but he tend to get off the rails with his take! I remember hearing fans all over and granted I am in Texas were hyped up about your Browns getting Beckham. So him saying they did not want to like him is not true! 🤷🏾
Yea the reason people didn't like obj is because he wasn't that good. Landry kept putting up better stats and wouldn't drop as many balls as obj. And now look obj ain't had over 500 yards in a season since he left clevland. Ain't made a probowl since 2016... a decade ago.
She doesn't know who they'll take with the second pick.
The browns will always need a quarterback as long as Stefanski is coach. But it's everyone's fault not Stefanski 🤔
Honestly players should NOT allow the browns to draft them. Stay far far away from this franchise.
QB Jaxson Dart (Ole Miss), full stop.
The draft starts in rd2. Quarterback! better lucky than good. Like the consolation prize at a fair.
You need to draft a franchise quarterback...actually should of kept the one you drafted in the first place with baker....quarterback is the most important position and you won't get another pick this high
If they take any of these qbs they will be drafting that high for years
Agree 100%. Berry should not be trusted to make any more picks or trades.
@Kelemor the last one we drafted turned out pretty good...other than qb you have travis hunter and the end from Penn state....we have both positions already top 5 and we still lose...qb makes the difference
@ and reaching for qb because of name and not skill lands you Johnny Manziel. Sanders other then name what has he done in college football. How did do in his playoff games vs teams other than big 12 teams. Cam Ward 2 years at FCS school (one being Covid) 2 years at Washington state. Where he was going to come out but the scouts said prolly don’t want to do that. So he heads to the ACC to stat pad and collect that sweet sweet NIL money. How is his playoff game go…..oh that’s right he opted out after he got records. Great team mate right there.
Baker is gone get over it. Two other teams didn’t think he was worth signing long term and he goes to Brady’s Tampa bay team. 9-7 and 10-7 does wonders in the NFC south. I think him getting bounced a few time humbled him and now he want to play football. That’s great for Tampa bay
Trade down with the raiders let them take sanders and take the DE to put on the opposite side of Myles. Myles won’t be there forever.
@Kelemor how many people you want to put next to garrett for this imaginary unstoppable combo that we keep searching for? Clowney, Smith , Vernon...We have a top5 end and corner already and it's not working so why would you draft them same positions above a quarterback who you desperately need because Watson makes ridiculous money and sucks? The only reason you don't draft a quarterback is if you trade garrett.
Dart has the best size arm and mobility combination in the group but throws to many interceptjons reminictent of the same thing said about HOF Brett Favre....just saying dont sleep on Dart he should be a mid 1st rd pick.
Deion trying to deter the Browns from picking his son.
I sincerely hope he succeeds.
The Browns have 9 picks in this draft, they have enough picks to address holes and depth areas.
Berry is horrible at drafting though. No confidence in him at all.
@@anthonypa8045 agreed... its like the good news is they have plenty of draft picks and with #2 they are in a great position to trade back, the bad news is it is going to be Berry/Podeseta making the picks, :(
Browns have a lot more holes then a QB
GBush foget people complained about the commercials when the losing started. Everybody get bashed when there's losing. Even the UCSS crew.
Give me Hunter!
Why can’t they trade or get free agent QB?
Ward sure is without a doubt he is but Sanders is a big no at the 2nd pick then trade down. Hey the penn st and ohio st QB's look like young Joe Flacco's you can get late 2nd rd to 3rd rds .
It is January and it is the beginning of silly season, so take every single rumor with a grain of salt. But I will just say that Andrew Berry and Kevin Stefanski are both roasting on the hot seat right now, and the more I look at the bridge QB options, the higher the probability I believe it is that they will get everybody fired. So I would suggest that the Browns find one of these QBs to like and then draft them.
Prediction if Browns don't take a qb at 2....trade with Giants...get Giants 2nd rounder and something next year like a 4th....and draft Hunter.
So Dustin thinks a lock down corner is a luxury?
Cam ward is a dawg! People who wasn’t anything in there playing days don’t see special! And bull you have no idea about any sport let alone football! What a joke😅 if we pass on ward I’ll be sick
i dont agree. you have to trade back to accumulate more draft capital next year for a class that may have more top end qb talent. 2025 is probably going to be similar to 2025 without a solid vet qb which there does not appear to be many in this years market.
Ridiculous, we will never win with Stefanski!