"La Flor de Manila" - Filipino Danza in Spanish

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  • @joaquinnotphoenix3055
    @joaquinnotphoenix3055 2 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    If Pedro Paterno sticked to poetry and stayed away from politics, his reputation wouldn’t be as infamous as it is today.

    • @joaquinnotphoenix3055
      @joaquinnotphoenix3055 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @Emmanuel Baylosis I’m only referring to Pedro Paterno. Read my comment again.

    • @donfelipe4367
      @donfelipe4367 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      But atleast he was the one who made truce between the Revolutionaries and Spanish during the Philippine Revolution

    • @joaquinnotphoenix3055
      @joaquinnotphoenix3055 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@donfelipe4367 he only did that to save his own skin he only sided with the revolution when the Katipunan started to become an actual threat

    • @rebecca4522
      @rebecca4522 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Emmanuel Baylosis Dolores is the sister that composed the music. Her brother Pedro penned the lyrics.

    • @rebecca4522
      @rebecca4522 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@donfelipe4367 the peace with Spain in 1897 was a matter of expediency for all. The Ejercito Colonial was only less than ~5% Peninsular Spaniards. The 25% 'blancos' were predominantly Mestizos or Criollos (same class as lead the Cavite mutiny.). The Gov Gen wanted ceasefire until Spain can send more Peninsular soldiers as there had been defections. The Revolutionaries were in a stalemate. The arms from Japan had not arrived and the funds from expats were short. The only ones that could finance the fight, the upper class natives of Paterno's Ilk, were mostly sitting on the fence. Paterno was self serving, he was connected to the Peninsular officials and requested to mediate. He asked to be elevated in to the 'Principalia' with a 'dukedom' and be compensated in Mexican pesos for his efforts, his reasons were not altruistic nor for any loyalty toward the Crown, the Revolution or even aversion to bloodshed. When he was captured by the Americans in 1900, he quickly advocated for the Philippines to be incorporated in to the US. Even Aguinaldo, for all the criticism today, even after pledging allegiance to the US, continued to advocate for eventual independence so did Quezon et al. No member of the Revolutionary government did such a dramatic U-turn as Paterno. Paterno is the dirt on the shoe of the Macabebes. At least, the Macabebes were loyal to something and fought for something even if it was against the nationalist cause.

  • @magalionv6473
    @magalionv6473 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    ¡Qué preciosidad! ¡Viva Filipinas y la Hispanidad!

  • @Ruben-ym2mg
    @Ruben-ym2mg 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    ¡Viva la hispanidad!

  • @QUIAPOPOWERPOINTMASS
    @QUIAPOPOWERPOINTMASS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    RESPECT ITS SO VERY BEAUTIFUL

  • @justamrcreeper6467
    @justamrcreeper6467 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Tbh, I’m kinda happy this hidden jewel of a song suddenly became relevant again when HE President Ferdinand “Bongbong” R. Marcos used this as his inspection march. This doesn’t change my view of him as a political leader but at least he’s expanding some parts of pur culture, paired with the reversion of the Presidential March from to its pre-Estrada/Arroyo/Ramos/Aquino(Cory) version.

    • @alvinsmith3894
      @alvinsmith3894 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Stop giving credit to thieves and leeches. It's nothing new. Evil people uses good people's art to cover up their misdeeds.

  • @mikemontiel4275
    @mikemontiel4275 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Que canción tan emotiva ❤

  • @TanRowell
    @TanRowell 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    My alma mater, CEU 😍

  • @josemariaromeroporcel8532
    @josemariaromeroporcel8532 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Clases de españo geatisl en todas las Iglesias de Filipinas por las tardes

  • @percymoto
    @percymoto 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Un saludo desde ciudad de Calambá.

  • @trinajoiecaraos3809
    @trinajoiecaraos3809 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Filipino Folk Music but Spanish

  • @carlomartinez2571
    @carlomartinez2571 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hoe ro recuperate Soanish language in the Philippines.

  • @hua_tetsu_cat
    @hua_tetsu_cat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    CEU

  • @perfdel11
    @perfdel11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1879

  • @TheSweetnessDoctor
    @TheSweetnessDoctor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Today there is an economic incentive to re-learn the Spanish language. Call centers catering to the US market pay more for Spanish speaking agents. Manuel Quezon y Luis should have not insisted that the Filipino language be based on the Tagalog language instead pushed for its original roots which is the Spanish language.

    • @belisarius1
      @belisarius1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Roots of Filipino is not Spanish lol We know from records that VERY FEW in the PH actually spoke Spanish fluently (and very vew of those who did were ever only inside of Manila-Cavite area). Less than 3% spoke Spanish from birth and at max 10% with people that were educated, the rest only knew words or were using pidgin Spanish (now called Chavacano, ie native grammar + Spanish-y loan words). They taught Spanish in the PH until 1980's. Americans actually were the ones that propagated the languages because they used it as lingua franca when they launched universal education. Even then despite being taught for almost 100 years as part of curriculum AVERAGE educated Filipinos can't and never used the Spanish language. If you doubt me, speak to anyone born before 1970 in Spanish...see if they even understand what you're saying lol I think any foreign language (including Chinese which has even more economic incentive to learn) would be beneficial when offered to serious learners (ie electives) but randomly adding it NEVER did and NEVER will make Filipinos speak the language simply because it's not used at all in the PH. Reason why Filipinos succeed overseas is because of English (good luck using your Spanish in the Middle East or Singapore ie the most lucrative jobs offered to most Filipinos).

    • @TheSweetnessDoctor
      @TheSweetnessDoctor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@belisarius1 yes I agree with you because that's what is taught in Philippine schools. In reality Filipino should be a variant of Spanish. Just look at history. Why was the Malolos constitution written in Spanish?Why was the Philippines national anthem originally written and composed in Spanish? Manuel Quezon speeches were not delivered in Tagalog, it's either Spanish or English. So let's be honest with ourselves, the Filipino language should be base in Spanish. Even the word Filipino is Spanish in origin.

    • @belisarius1
      @belisarius1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@TheSweetnessDoctor No it shouldn't, it never was. The reason why old documents were said in Spanish was because it was the lingua franca of the elites + language of the colonists. Even then, despite being said in Spanish, if you study them today they're all translated into English lmao because average Filipino don't (and won't ever) understand Spanish. The colonists are no longer here. Vast majority of average people DID NOT speak the language. And just because it was done so in the past, doesn't mean we have to continue it. The colonists are no longer here, we DON'T NEED to continue the past. In reality the average Filipino speaks and understand Tagalog more so than they do English. Tagalog is native meaning it has been spoken in the islands for thousands of years. Spanish was NEVER spoken by any large portion of the population, was never spoken even AFTER it was taught in public school, and will NEVER be used in significant manner in PH (since English has taken its place). Spanish is USELESS, and I don't mean that to demean the language, but simply stating facts. So what if 'Filipino' is a Spanish word? You'll overhaul the whole system (a system that can't exist for reasons already stated above)? LOL. 'Mexico' is originally an Aztec term...should the whole of Mexico get rid of Spanish and start speaking Nahuatl? Besides that, that's actually more reasonable since Nahuatl was spoken in Mexico by large population before arrival of Spanish and is native to Mexico vs. Spanish in PH because Sp. was never spoken at any large size in the PH, and NOT native in the country.

    • @TheSweetnessDoctor
      @TheSweetnessDoctor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@belisarius1 well unfortunately the Filipino language originated from the Spanish language. A TH-camr and Fil-Am history professor at the UCLA Kirby Araullo claimed originally the word Filipino was applied solely to a Spanish individual born in the Philippines islands or Las Islas Filipinas. I agree with him. Filipino doesn't even apply to the meztizos until 1898 when Emilio Aguinaldo proclaimed Philippine Independence. Not Tagalog independence However, to make things really confusing another meztizos Manuel Quezon redefined the Filipino language as akin to the Tagalog language. Fast forward today even senators Robinhood Padilla and Cynthia Hontiveros are debating whether the Filipino language should be base in the Tagalog language or the Bisaya language Sen Hontiveros contention is more people speak the Bisaya language. Up to 1960 the Spanish language was used in political speeches and debates in both senate and house of representatives. The Tagalog language is only use by street protesters.

    • @belisarius1
      @belisarius1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TheSweetnessDoctor absolutely false. That's not true at all from primary sources. The word 'Filipino' both in the historical dictionaries and in primary sources were used for 'natives'. Also other writers like WH Scott says otherwise. That's a dead myth that's been repeated over and over again. Tagalog is Tagalog. It's native, it has existed in the PH for thousands of years. Spanish was never that important in the PH. In fact, it was said that if Spanish walked out of Intramuros the natives usually would point at him because he couldn't speak the language lmao. Most Filipinos understanding of Filipino history is kindergarten level at best. Spanish never was and NEVER will be important in the PH. English had always been more important in terms of people using and understanding them (because it's native, even people who don't speak it natively can easily pick it up because it's very similar to their own native tongue). Spanish had been dead in the water even before Spanish left. Es hora de dejar que se vaya a dormir. Mimis.