Maybe even lethal this time….do NOT underestimate what is build here. The stress on the frame will be insane. Ripping the frame apart at high speeds can be tricky here, as no protection is present. In fact this is suicide. I raced shifter karts myself for many years, did x-cross and 26 years on Supersport and Superbikes, 10 years as a race instructor. And I can tell that you might be messing with every safety rule that applies on a racer. Hire a professional that is used to 250cc go kart racing. Talk to sidecar pilots, as they are used to deal with Suzuki race engines that are around 160 hp or more. This is serious and a warning! Do not be a fool and turn this into a disaster. Please…. Deal?!
Only a couple of minutes in and I'm wondering how having 2 motors will make it go faster - it's still only going to go the same speed as with a single motor - it'll just get there faster. Unless you change the gearing you'll only hit the motor rev limit which can't be much higher than you've already pushed it - or am I completely wrong?
Correct, they'll need to change the gearing for a higher top speed, but should have higher headroom due to the increase in HP. I still don't understand how dual motors/engines work in relation to HP.... like, it makes no sense to me, but it somehow always works, so it's some type of black magic 🤷🏻♂️
Depends on how it behaved before. If it didn't have enough power to go max rpm, more power will make it be able to push higher rpm with the same gearing (go faster). If he was redlining before, more power won't make it go faster.
Happy too leave a comment for your channel too grow… 👍 FYI - engine (quote) is combustion powered- by a fuel. - a motor is electrified with magnetic field produced by electricity/ ⚡️ Just saying as you mentioned engine mounts. 😂
Snyggt jobbat! Bra filmat och härligt med en 160hk variant. Jag byggde min R1 monsterkart 2005 och då var det bara jag och Achims Gixxerkart (i Tyskland) som hade hojmotordrivna kartar. Sen dess har det spårat ur. 😂 Jag har haft funderingar på 4x4 och turbo på min kart men det kommer aldrig bli samma respons som 160hk och eldrift! Helt underbart! 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 I like! 😉 // Turboforslund
Gick in på din kanal nu fan va kul att se!!! 😁 jag håller på att bygga en mini F1 bil och har en r1 motor jag tänkt turbokonvertera till den. Nu blev jag peppad som in i h*vete när jag hörde ljudet på din video 😂
Eller hur! Jag blev sjukt nöjd med hur den låter. En zx7r dämpare tror jag det blev till sist. Kul med turbokovertering, är det en förgasarmotor du utgår ifrån? Nått liknande är som sagt min lilla våta dröm (och få till insprutning). En kollega till mig byggde en super7 med turbomatad R1 vill jag minnas. // Turboforslund
Ja det är förgasare, min kompis sa att vi kan bygga sprut på det men har hart att folk fått det att funka bra med förgasare också så jag vet inte hur vi gör, inte kommit så långt :)
Ahh jag har tänkt om nu, jag tänkte kanske köra en ”mellan axel” eller vad det kallas och det var en kille här i kommentarerna som fick mig att inse att jag inte behöver ha olika drev då. Då kan jag bara köra 520 hela vägen eftersom jag inte behöver ha lika litet drev längre
I missed the first video, I will have to go back and watch it!,I just happened to come across this video and I had to see and happy I did!that thing is going to to look so good! !!×10
You have the same amount of hp as a KTM Duke 1290 which is insane because the top speed of that is 169mph. I think with the right optimal gearing the top speed of this kart could go around 150mph, meaning you made your very own super kart.
You guys are awesome and make some of the best content. It's hard to get my attention because my ADHD but I can shit and watch your whole video without skipping through. Keep the awesome content going guys. 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Lovely work, viewing here in Atlanta. Are you sure splitting the throttle position signal will work? Will each motor controller then be sending its base (reference) signal to a single throttle? Will they step on each other? I'm not familiar with how those work.
To wire your throttle to two controllers, connect Pin 3 (Output 1) from the throttle to the input of the first controller, and Pin 8 (Output 2) to the input of the second controller. For power connections, link Pin 1 (5V) and Pin 4 (5V) from the throttle to the 5V inputs on both controllers. Also, connect Pin 2 (Ground) and Pin 5 (Ground) from the throttle to the ground connections on both controllers. This configuration ensures that each controller receives its own separate throttle signal and power supply, allowing for independent control of two electric motors. I don't have the $ for a stark varg so I'm solely going off information such as the pinouts that I found online, so maybe do your own research.
Im trying to keep this as a go kart and that would be impossible without making the front end looking like something else (at least using one of these motors)😅i wish there would be a way tho, it would be crazy
@@critical I know it would be crazy difficult and take ages but my god what a monster it would be. Can't wait to see this thing rip. With all that torque I can't imagine much there's much that could keep up with it off the line. Going to be a tire burner for sure.
Insanity and i love it ! I think you have to gear it up through a middle shaft, then you can use 520 chain from the motors to the middle shaft and the 428 chain from the middle shaft to the drive shaft (or whatever chain and sprockets that fits the rear axle) And please dont ground your welder through the bearing.
Its winter here so I’ll hit the ice with this gearing first and then we’ll see when it clears up how it works on the dry. I’ve been thinking of using another axel for gearing but i didnt think of what you wrote: that i can use that to convert the sprocket types. That’s genius! (Or just me being slow 😂) thank you!! 🙏🏻
@@critical You are welcome,! you might even get away with only one chain from the middle shaft to the rear axle and making gearing changes even easier (and no need for welded sprockets is a plus). and i dont know why i write in english because im also Swedish 😅
@ Hahhaha tack!! Fan jag fattar inte hur jag inte tänkte på det när jag tänkte på en andra axel 🤯 hahha. Ja en ensam kedja vidare sen borde räcka. Och beroende på dreven där tror jag inte ens att jag behöver några 428 drev öht. Jag är inte så bra på matte men om drevet från andra axeln är stort så behöver sista drevet inte vara sååå litet ens.
Quick tip: dont put the welder clamp on the inside of the bearing. Current will flow through the bearing and might damage the bearing races or balls. That will cause the bearing to fail very quickly
Inte för att låta dryg o elak men att sätta jordklämman i lagret gör att lagret inte blir långlivat, strömmen går då igenom lagret o lämnar en liten liten elnagg, annars coolt bygge 😊
In front of the batteries is pretty far and it doesnt need that much airflow from experience but right behind the motors is just about 0 flow. In the middle where its now looks like the old super karts, i think its cool
Not good practice to ground ur weld through a set of bearings....😮 especially when u could have put the ground directly to the welded material. Enjoying the project greatly! Awesome !
A few others pointed that out, but no one answered me when I asked if it mattered where I put the clamp? since it worked to weld it must mean that its all connected regardless, right? I'm just trying to learn
Ajjjj. Sick. Wanted to build an electric Kart myself but wanted to build the battery myself and i don't have 20k laying around under my bed to buy an ready e cross lol.
Crazy build, but with all the money that went into those motors, i just wish it would have been a bit more proper manufacturing and less hillbilly'ing. Why didn't the sprocket parts for example get cut on a lathe? Still impressive what you managed to built.
this build is absolutely amazing, I was thinking tho that the weight distribution must horrendus since all the weight is literally in the back, I imagine that alone woulf make it hella sketchy and dangerous to drive as the under steer and wheelieing would be atrocious
The old/first setup was but then with the counter weight it was pretty nice to drive actually (see the track video) and then now with the double setup its as center as possible altho a little top heavy maybe since the batteries are standing up)
If you watch the first minutes when I dissemble the bike you can see another chassis in the background hehe, we've actually designed a custom body for that that will be a more serious build, tho that will take longer so I tought I would do this "standard" kart in the meantime
I knew critical was insane, but this is next level insanity
Maybe even lethal this time….do NOT underestimate what is build here. The stress on the frame will be insane. Ripping the frame apart at high speeds can be tricky here, as no protection is present. In fact this is suicide. I raced shifter karts myself for many years, did x-cross and 26 years on Supersport and Superbikes, 10 years as a race instructor. And I can tell that you might be messing with every safety rule that applies on a racer. Hire a professional that is used to 250cc go kart racing. Talk to sidecar pilots, as they are used to deal with Suzuki race engines that are around 160 hp or more. This is serious and a warning! Do not be a fool and turn this into a disaster. Please…. Deal?!
Build a stark varg mobility scooter
Na only useful stuff
The 125 2-stroke is good enough ;)
@@critical do you have a 125cc 2 stroke mobility scooter?
@ we have one in the crew ”Pensionärsligan”
@ I didn’t know that was you
havent even watched the video yet and know it's going to be nuts
Great project, I am loving it! ❤
hope your video goes well and i wish for you thta you can get a normal stark to ride in the future because they look like hella fun
Vilken Fin Film Du La Idag Herr Critical !!! Jäkla Trevlig Stämning Och Så Där! Du Är Duktig! Bra Jobbat!
Only a couple of minutes in and I'm wondering how having 2 motors will make it go faster - it's still only going to go the same speed as with a single motor - it'll just get there faster. Unless you change the gearing you'll only hit the motor rev limit which can't be much higher than you've already pushed it - or am I completely wrong?
Correct, they'll need to change the gearing for a higher top speed, but should have higher headroom due to the increase in HP. I still don't understand how dual motors/engines work in relation to HP.... like, it makes no sense to me, but it somehow always works, so it's some type of black magic 🤷🏻♂️
It’s simple hp means horse power 1 hp equals 1 horse 1000 hp 1000 horses so it’s easier to push bc you have so many horses more help
Foot pounds of torque is amount of power available. Hp is how fast you reach max power
Depends on how it behaved before. If it didn't have enough power to go max rpm, more power will make it be able to push higher rpm with the same gearing (go faster).
If he was redlining before, more power won't make it go faster.
@@Xerxes_TVwow is all I can say
Happy too leave a comment for your channel too grow… 👍
FYI - engine (quote) is combustion powered- by a fuel.
- a motor is electrified with magnetic field produced by electricity/ ⚡️
Just saying as you mentioned engine mounts. 😂
Im pretty sure ive been consistantly calling the motor for motor lol at the mount tho 😂
Snyggt jobbat! Bra filmat och härligt med en 160hk variant. Jag byggde min R1 monsterkart 2005 och då var det bara jag och Achims Gixxerkart (i Tyskland) som hade hojmotordrivna kartar. Sen dess har det spårat ur. 😂 Jag har haft funderingar på 4x4 och turbo på min kart men det kommer aldrig bli samma respons som 160hk och eldrift! Helt underbart! 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
I like! 😉
// Turboforslund
Gick in på din kanal nu fan va kul att se!!! 😁 jag håller på att bygga en mini F1 bil och har en r1 motor jag tänkt turbokonvertera till den. Nu blev jag peppad som in i h*vete när jag hörde ljudet på din video 😂
Eller hur! Jag blev sjukt nöjd med hur den låter. En zx7r dämpare tror jag det blev till sist. Kul med turbokovertering, är det en förgasarmotor du utgår ifrån? Nått liknande är som sagt min lilla våta dröm (och få till insprutning). En kollega till mig byggde en super7 med turbomatad R1 vill jag minnas.
// Turboforslund
Ja det är förgasare, min kompis sa att vi kan bygga sprut på det men har hart att folk fått det att funka bra med förgasare också så jag vet inte hur vi gör, inte kommit så långt :)
the kart varg build is getting crazier i cant wait to see the results
3 stark motors soon? hahahaha, great video, keep it up king, been watching for so long, miss the chases tho... but know its harder now days.
That’s badass, bro! Be safe
Thanks for pushing the limits. You are the hero we need ❤
Got the bluetooth welder working!
Always love the videos :D This is going to be wild
Om du har freecad så finns det ett verktyg för att göra drev, då kan du skära ut dreven efter egna mått, jag gör mina bakdrev själv.
Ahh jag har tänkt om nu, jag tänkte kanske köra en ”mellan axel” eller vad det kallas och det var en kille här i kommentarerna som fick mig att inse att jag inte behöver ha olika drev då. Då kan jag bara köra 520 hela vägen eftersom jag inte behöver ha lika litet drev längre
Bro. You are a certified mad man 😅 160hp in a go kart is freaking nuts
I missed the first video, I will have to go back and watch it!,I just happened to come across this video and I had to see and happy I did!that thing is going to to look so good! !!×10
You are a goat when it comes to the go kart!!! Good for you love your videos!!!
Crazy !!!!!! Can't wait to see it run !!!!!!!
Love your work mate. Watching from Clearwater Florida
Ser tok fet ut med batteriepacken och motorerna på var sin sida av förarstolen! Gillar verkligen detta projekt!! 💪
This is on a whole other level damn
All wheel drive version next 0____0
Sick! Was really hoping for separate left and right drive for torque vectoring!
in a go kart haha?
You guys are nuts but awesome. Lol wow that's awesome fabrication work .
Älskar den matematiska uträkningen 😂😂
Problem: Behöver mer kraft.
Lösning: 1+1=MO POWAAAH!! 😂
You've got my vote for electric SUPERSTAR
Never ending story.... In a good way 👌
Älskar dessa typer av videos som ni gör🤩
Riktigt skön byggfilm. Och grymt bygge!
Bruh this is to crasyyy. That’s almost 2000nm of pure torque 💀 that’s more than any Ferrari in history
You have the same amount of hp as a KTM Duke 1290 which is insane because the top speed of that is 169mph. I think with the right optimal gearing the top speed of this kart could go around 150mph, meaning you made your very own super kart.
a kart is probably more aerodinamic because of the smaller frontal area... maybe even better top speed.
I think more then 170 in a kart is mindless lol. Depends on the racetrack propably.
You guys are awesome and make some of the best content. It's hard to get my attention because my ADHD but I can shit and watch your whole video without skipping through. Keep the awesome content going guys. 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Hey I have the same problem so that was really cool to hear!! 😁😁🙏🏻
@critical lol keep it up guys
Amazing fabrication!
Du är grym! fortsätt med de du gör
Did Timmie ever get that tiny metal pin you lost or was he left scratching his head for a while? hahahahaha
Lovely work, viewing here in Atlanta. Are you sure splitting the throttle position signal will work? Will each motor controller then be sending its base (reference) signal to a single throttle? Will they step on each other? I'm not familiar with how those work.
No 😂 im not sure yet, just hoping
To wire your throttle to two controllers, connect Pin 3 (Output 1) from the throttle to the input of the first controller, and Pin 8 (Output 2) to the input of the second controller. For power connections, link Pin 1 (5V) and Pin 4 (5V) from the throttle to the 5V inputs on both controllers. Also, connect Pin 2 (Ground) and Pin 5 (Ground) from the throttle to the ground connections on both controllers. This configuration ensures that each controller receives its own separate throttle signal and power supply, allowing for independent control of two electric motors. I don't have the $ for a stark varg so I'm solely going off information such as the pinouts that I found online, so maybe do your own research.
@@critical I didnt reply to your message on accident but I added some info you may find useful if you run into any issues
Sure buddy, you got it. This here comment for the rhytmics, a like…and why not sub while at it… 👍 Critical Motors FTW!
Next try putting the engine up front and make it 4 wheel drive. Great build!
Im trying to keep this as a go kart and that would be impossible without making the front end looking like something else (at least using one of these motors)😅i wish there would be a way tho, it would be crazy
@@critical I know it would be crazy difficult and take ages but my god what a monster it would be. Can't wait to see this thing rip. With all that torque I can't imagine much there's much that could keep up with it off the line. Going to be a tire burner for sure.
Nice. Great video once again. Keep it up!!!
Let’s help the algorithm. Nice to find you. Keep up the good work. Do want a stark varg too.
Starkt slöjdat! 🫡
❤
💪🏻👑
Beautiful job
Bra skit, som alltid! ^^
Thats the video i am waiting for
Det här är något utöver de vanliga
Du måste testa den, den kommer bli vedervärdig!
I wrote a comment (the builds are amazing)
Insanity and i love it !
I think you have to gear it up through a middle shaft, then you can use 520 chain from the motors to the middle shaft and the 428 chain from the middle shaft to the drive shaft (or whatever chain and sprockets that fits the rear axle)
And please dont ground your welder through the bearing.
Its winter here so I’ll hit the ice with this gearing first and then we’ll see when it clears up how it works on the dry. I’ve been thinking of using another axel for gearing but i didnt think of what you wrote: that i can use that to convert the sprocket types. That’s genius! (Or just me being slow 😂) thank you!! 🙏🏻
@@critical You are welcome,! you might even get away with only one chain from the middle shaft to the rear axle and making gearing changes even easier (and no need for welded sprockets is a plus). and i dont know why i write in english because im also Swedish 😅
@ Hahhaha tack!! Fan jag fattar inte hur jag inte tänkte på det när jag tänkte på en andra axel 🤯 hahha. Ja en ensam kedja vidare sen borde räcka. Och beroende på dreven där tror jag inte ens att jag behöver några 428 drev öht. Jag är inte så bra på matte men om drevet från andra axeln är stort så behöver sista drevet inte vara sååå litet ens.
Det låter som en bra plan om du behöver mixtra med drevningen, kör hårt.
Ser fram emot nästa video 👍
Bro is that Eminem at 17:43?
Good job on the safety gear 😂
Doing my best 😁
Blir intressant att se lycka till 😮👍🏼🇸🇪
Man you put some junior drag slicks on the back of that and you will probably be breaking every record in the world! 😮😅
Grymt bygge! Du borde skriva till Ryobi och be dem skicka en uppsättning med batteriverktyg till dig, lite smidigare att jobba med och slippa kalbar
Det hade varit en dröm!
@critical det är bara dra ett mail ju 😊 bra reklam för deras verktyg
Waiting for tripple motor setup, AWD-Cart =D
Amazing video!
sjuka byggen och roliga! :D
Don’t forget the wheely bar😎
This is so dope my guy, also what those pants called fw them too
Now you have the power to make a crosskart 🤔😁
Vet inte om detta är hjärndött eller helt fantastiskt! Förmodligen både ock!❤️
😂😂
Riktigt fet build ;)
I wonna see an all wheel drive Electric Go Kart, i don't think I've ever seen that
look up the college project 0-60 under 1 second.. theirs is all wheel drive and vaccuumed to the ground for 0-60 in the .8 range .,
Quick tip: dont put the welder clamp on the inside of the bearing. Current will flow through the bearing and might damage the bearing races or balls. That will cause the bearing to fail very quickly
I understand its not a good idea to weld while its in there, altho it would flow thru it regardless where I put the clamp right?
so 160 hp and 1876nm of torque
sounds nice
SICK BEATS
Inte för att låta dryg o elak men att sätta jordklämman i lagret gör att lagret inte blir långlivat, strömmen går då igenom lagret o lämnar en liten liten elnagg, annars coolt bygge 😊
Går det inte genom lagret oavsett var jag sätter klämman?
@@critical Nej sätter du klämman direkt i det du svetsar så går strömmen bara i där. då finns ingen risk att det blir märke i lagerytorna.
I can’t believe you actually put another stark motor in it we were already hoping you won’t try and kill yourself in it😂😂😂🙏
ser riktigt fett ut, kan inte vänta till att se dig köra med den!!!
Why not put both fans directly behind or even in front of the motors? ..Just curious on the thought process.
In front of the batteries is pretty far and it doesnt need that much airflow from experience but right behind the motors is just about 0 flow. In the middle where its now looks like the old super karts, i think its cool
@critical for sure, thanks man!
@@RVmotoTravelno problem 😁 im really no expert here, i just wish this works haha
Not good practice to ground ur weld through a set of bearings....😮 especially when u could have put the ground directly to the welded material. Enjoying the project greatly! Awesome !
A few others pointed that out, but no one answered me when I asked if it mattered where I put the clamp? since it worked to weld it must mean that its all connected regardless, right? I'm just trying to learn
power to weight ratio? Sick build haha.
Kan inte säga exakt men runt 180kg hoppas jag, med 160hk 😁
and here i was thinking it couldnt get any crazyer
Stark Varg electric heelys shoes when??
4WD-4 stark motor. Mini?
160hp is wild in a go kart🤣🤟💪
19:00 varför har du en biltema tröja på dig? 😢 & Vad har hänt med handen kompis?
😂 älskar biltema
Kör utan hjälm kommer å bli så snyggt när du sitter där i elektiskastolen den lilla hår totten kommer att stå rätt ut😎👍
😂
lägg en mick på dig, jag hör hur din kameraman andas i 4K top G video
Hans andning står med i undertexten hahah återkommande inslag, hinner inte hålla på med micar tyvärr
Sätt en på vardera jul👍
4 wheel drive would be Wild😮
Where did you have your shop sign made ?
theneoncompany.se I had a discount code earlier but I don’t think it’s still working
Ajjjj. Sick. Wanted to build an electric Kart myself but wanted to build the battery myself and i don't have 20k laying around under my bed to buy an ready e cross lol.
Crazy build, but with all the money that went into those motors, i just wish it would have been a bit more proper manufacturing and less hillbilly'ing. Why didn't the sprocket parts for example get cut on a lathe? Still impressive what you managed to built.
Yeah it might have been faster with a lathe if we had one
De där var min idé 😎
We need a quad stark motor go kart
this build is absolutely amazing, I was thinking tho that the weight distribution must horrendus since all the weight is literally in the back, I imagine that alone woulf make it hella sketchy and dangerous to drive as the under steer and wheelieing would be atrocious
The old/first setup was but then with the counter weight it was pretty nice to drive actually (see the track video) and then now with the double setup its as center as possible altho a little top heavy maybe since the batteries are standing up)
Snille #BILTEMA och #StarkVarg værsånilll og spons vår kille Critical!!
Han ses jo over hele verden!
Kameramannens visslande näsa låter bra fint
Heavy breathing behind the camera 😂
You should try a dual stark moto side by side
Its not that much power for a sxs tbh
Love this 🎉
I wonder why they didnt go for 4wd and wider tyres?
Because its a go kart
He isn't afraid of the devel the devel is afraid of him
The squeeze on an angled cut is called a “ghetto cope”. 😅
Next you should build it custome aero/ fairings to maximize top speed and reduce drag
If you watch the first minutes when I dissemble the bike you can see another chassis in the background hehe, we've actually designed a custom body for that that will be a more serious build, tho that will take longer so I tought I would do this "standard" kart in the meantime
How much would you sell the one with the one motor in it?
It's the same one
take it down the drag strip i bet the acceleration is insane
Sjukt fränt 😊
Somebody had to do it.
with rotax we need 4 axle mounts
Sick video!!!