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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.พ. 2025
- A panel of medical experts working with the defence team of convicted serial killer Lucy Letby said they believe the 35-year-old did not commit the murders.
Pat Kenny os joined by Mark Paul ( Irish Times ) to discuss the development in the case.
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for example, she was accused of turning off the alarm for apnea. But the alarm never rang because the baby was gasping... the baby never stopped breathing for more than 20 seconds (20 is the threshold). for every incident, the strongest argument by prosecution was destroyed by the new experts panel in the same manner.
It's not like British Justice ever got it wrong !! The Medical Profession is another sacred cow, we cannot criticise. Yes we can and it looks like Lucy Letby is a scapegoat taking the fall to protect her " betters ".
Who in their right mind would want to work as a nurse in the NHS after this case. It's despicable how Lucy Letbys court case has been handled from the very beginning. She was a scapegoat.
We all like to be opinionated ,almost opinions on personal feelings , 14 of the most established people across the world including the man who’s paper was used wrongly put this panel of highly regarded people the utmost importance to listen to other than ignorance of social media. Genuinely the best neonatal people on record explaining nothing but facts.
We need open/televised court systems like the US
No we don't. And Ireland should mind their own business
She should be released! No crimes only medical negligence and not by her either!
@@hubbert22 Exactly.
Total miscarriage of justice .
The whole system absolutely stinks
Too many cases of wrongful convictions that organisations are involved with!
Powerful organisations rule the workers just cannon fodder.
Retrial needed urgently. Prayers for TRUTH ❤
If substantial portions of evidence are wrong she should be retried!
All the evidence is wrong.
Re tried for what crime? These medical experts are saying there's no murders.
According to the experts no crime was committed it was due to sub optimal care and a terrible hospital.
this is true, I've always thought she deserved a retrial as hers wasn't fair. But how do you retry someone for murders that didn't happen? That opens up another can of worms. My daughter is training to be a nurse, I don't want her to join an organisation that throws people under the bus like this.
@@honved1 to my nonlegal mind, a conviction can't be undone without a court process of some kind. What if she's guilty of just some of the convictions? It needs to be retried inmo.
Also it's probably the best way to work out where and what went wrong.
Justice needs to be done, but also seen to be done so people can have confidence in the legal system. Thanks for responding
Remember if it's 2025 and you dare to challenge a possible miscarriage of justice your a conspiracy theorist
Thank-you, excellent interview!
Dr Dewi Evan’s offered himself to the police, as an ‘independent witness’
Pfff whatever for?! Dewi spoke a lotta sense!
@ Not according to the 12 international & completely independent experts. The man was retired & put himself forward. I’m going with the knowledge of true independent experts, including the 1989 research used by the prosecution.
@@jackiecorbett8476 I've listened to both Demi and listened to other "experts" . So i found myself agreeing with Dewi's views! Cos those cases had unexplained, sudden collapses which were wholly unnatural! Besides Dewi wasn't the only expert. There were other medical consultants who shared with Dewi's points.
@@jackiecorbett8476 It doesn't matter exactly how those you know we're affected because Lucy's guilt was obvious. Perhaps there were initial errors about how she carried them out whether its the insulin or embolism stuff. She's still guilty regardless!
He's an ignorant fool, paid by the police to review records he had no business reviewing. He'd just be pathetic if he wasn't such a despicable persistent bearer of false witness.
Interesting case, very hard to know...the expert witnesse appears to be not such an expert after all....and he went looking for the job.
After reading John Grisham books (ex lawyer), the fees paid for 'experts' is part of the story
@@gwyneth7812anyone who thinks this brutal situation can be shared with a novel means something wrong, Grisham fans could comment on every situation. Mafias , corruption , child welfare , this is real
@gwyneth7812 definitely....in this case...and he takes pride in successful convictions...so he was batting for the prosecution, happily. He changed his mind about the cause of deaths, of some babies after leatbys conviction, in interviews, I believe...I'm not saying she's completely innocent...but its a strange case...problems with antiquated plumbing in the ward too..leading to dangerous pathogens in a sink I believe
They were pro bono, not paid a penny, even paid for their own transport to the UK. Dr Lee made it mandatory that their findings be published, whether they were in favour of Letby or not. And he approached defence, after hearing his 1988 article was used inappropriately to explain babies dying. If you’re going to bad mouth people, try getting the facts right beforehand.
@JohnJKelly-f3l I'd put money on her being completely innocent, having heard the expert panel yesterday and John Sweeneys excellent podcast series. If the ccrc sends it back to the court of appeal I'll be amazed if she's not freed. Overwhelming doubt now.
Its now the point that a respected person has gone so far as to convene a panel of experts to preserve the integrity of his paper because it was mis used in a prosecution that now basically means it would have to be stricken along with the extrapolated links they used or the prosecution will be forced to prove they used it properly .
i think a better option would be convene an independent panel to have every nda concerning hospital , staff , managers and contractors over a 20 year period opened lets find what's bin hidden .
The conviction obviously doesn't pass the sniff test, it certainly doesn't now!
Newstalk doesn't pass the sniff test on a daily basis.
Read the daily Mail article today ,casting positive doubt on a total circumstantial conviction .
Free Lucy Letby! Who would want to be a Nurse after this miscarriage of justice! This Poor Woman, I stand by her 100%,!
Here here!
We can't have innocent people rotting in jail now. Can we, while the guilty go out and about free as a bird.
If she's innocent of course it needs to be looked at and soon
Most definitely this case should be reopened. She was a scapegoat for the mistakes the hospital made. All the evidence that was presented was circumstantial.
Not Guilty
Wrong she's GUILTY!
There's no murders.
It is now being said that she was told to write the letter saying that she was responsible but I don't recall them saying that at the time of the trial
Come on Mr Prime Minister and lawyer Keir Starmer do something like order a review of Lucy Letby case.
More like medical as doctors error.
How many peer reviewed publications has prosecution expert Dr D Evans published?
zero?
None I believe
ZERO.
That has nothing to do the facts of a case.
Medical experts from around the world are saying there is no case because there's no murders .
It's hard to believe the hospital management, the media, and the justice system. And what about her diary? It's all so disturbing.
I’m amazed that PK didn’t blame Trump on it, good to see him beat a different drum.. All joking aside, the dogs on the street knew Lucy Lethby’s conviction was unsafe
I always said this didn’t sit right from the start poor poor girl
Wow! This is crazy 😢 I thought for sure she was guilty! If all of this is a miscarriage of justice then there needs to be a retrial.
Hope not. Waste of time and money.
Wait a few years and conclusive evidence will turn up. Then take action.
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It's all men think Lucy Letby is not guilty. Very strange? Lucy wrote she did it?
She also wrote “I’ve done nothing wrong” “why is this happening to me?” do you just ignore that because it doesn’t suit.
Most people I have encountered that believe this to be a miscarriage of justice are female.
Those who choose to ignore the overwhelming and circumstantial evidence which proves her absolute guilt are dummies! 🤦♂️😏
Please enlighten me with her guilt? In fact please don't bother.
@@sallybutler1005 Yes, it is a waste of time dealing with people who have significant emotional/personality problems.
Exactly
@sallybutler1005 What's the point?! Seems that dummies like you have already made their minds up despite our points attempts to prove otherwise! Anyway debates are not easy to discuss on these channels!
@@sallybutler1005 Don't worry I won't! Seems that those like you have already made up their minds, despite our points to prove otherwise! Anyway d€b>>tes are not easy to discuss on these channels!
The miscarriage of justice would be if she goes free.
@@richardredmond1463 your facts?
@@Kward1he will have no facts, and the worry is people with that mindset are doing jury duty giving their testimony to put someone to prison, you can have brilliant lawyers on both sides and when it’s circumstantial it purely for 12 people to just make the opinion, so regardless of anything some cases are purely put to 12 normal people put through a situation that they have never experienced and have to choose between guilty or innocent
Please mind your own business, Ireland. This has nothing to do with you. Keep your nose out.
@KMartin-t4r your an idiot.
Another labour council coverup
This woman might not have killed all but she definitely caused the death of most. If she was black you would not be saying she is not guilty, this woman kill some of these babies.
Forget all the evidence then. I’m not surprised they want to open up this case again for this WW.
You got it wrong. No case will be reopened because there's no murders and an endless line of medical experts from around the world are confirming that.
Has the mortality rate fallen since her conviction
The conviction will remain the same. I believe
@@BarnaySlb it may but she will be getting a re trial
@@BarnaySlb doubt it son.
@@Sirwren50that will take another 2 years.. however Lucy should be released..
@ I reckon re trial defo will take a while should walk but either way British justice system you never know ✔️💯💫
She's guilty end of. Doctors rushed in saving babies whilst she did nothing. Huge rise and LL was always with them. Stop blaming the wonderful other doctors and nurses who helped the babies everyday.
@@nickychargreaves1111 you sound very ignorant.
Have you seen the records of the infant deaths before her, and now? Seriously asking
@GeorginaJett I'm following facts! I don't blame for the sake of it. I see the good in people. A panel of her peers also agreed.
Court of your back yard ??? Did you even listen to the evidence of the international experts ???
Get another booster for yourself
@stephenbrewer2541 yes if you watch the trial and evidence the mortality rate significantly rose and LL was the common denominator each time. That's why it was questioned in the first place. Also doctors rushing in whilst LL did nothing. Also a substance found in their system plus moved tubes from the babies mouths. LL was in charge every time.
this interview is embarrassingly uniformed and naive, there is an excellent book by two panorama journalists called unmasking lucy letby
@@johnwaldron6519 there was nothing to unmask. Flawed medical evidence, no motive, no psychological evidence. The whole thing was a made up sham. It was purely medical malpractice. Btw, I would take panorama with a pinch of salt. Their integrity has been wanting at times.
LOL BBC Journalists. Bet that's not biased in any way. 🙈
I did comment but it appears to have been deleted 🤷♀️
I think more credence should be given to 14 medical experts the best in their field rather than BBC journalists.
@@jhoneyb Well we have just found out the CIA has been paying the BBC through USAID.
Should her case be reponed 🫣.....dah.
Are they f* serious.
Looks like she didn't do anything.