Devastating Argentine attack at Fitzroy (Falklands 1982)
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- On 8 June 1982, two companies of the Welsh Guards Battalion were sent aboard RFA Sir Galahad from San Carlos to Fitzroy in order to join the first two companies unloaded on the previous night at Bluff Cove, just to the north. Poor coordination and other problems led to a delay and the Welsh Guards were still onboard the ship at about 2PM. Having been spotted by Argentine observers, they soon became the target for a flight of FAA's A-4 Skyhawks. The attack resulted in the biggest lost of lie for the British in the entire Falklands War.
Main sources:
- Edward Hampshire - The Falklands Naval Campaign 1982: War in the South Atlantic
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- Jeffrey Ethell and Alfred Price - Air War South Atlantic
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- Michael Clapp and Ewen Southby-Tailyour - Amphibious Assault Falklands: The Battle of San Carlos Water
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- Pablo Camogli - Batallas de Malvinas: Todos los combates de la Guerra del Atlántico Sur
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- Una Bahía no tan agradable
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Most assets in this reenactment are not 100% historically accurate. Sir Galahad and Sir Tristram are represented by somewhat similar (although larger) supply ships. Argentine Skyhawks used here are A-4E models with the hump while originally, they were B models with no hump. Daggers are represented by Mirage IIIs. HMS Plymouth was represented by a Leander class frigate. Aircraft skins and serial numbers are mostly not accurate either. These are not mistakes but simply platform limitations. Thank you for your understanding.
The fact that you need to say this to preclude comments is 😔. Great job on the video.
@@I8ASUPRAforLUNCH It also showcases Showtime112's attention to detail, which most of us appreciate :D.
If anyone’s been watching this channel for any length of time they already know that DCS world doesn’t have every mod of every aircraft that has ever existed. Showtime does his best. I find his videos to be entertaining & very informative.
Its all good,sir👍👍👍🍻🍻🍻
Its some times hard to belive this war was over 40 years ago
Always amazed by the skill and accuracy of the Argentine pilots during this conflict.
They were very professional and under the circumstances, they achieved a lot.
A UK commander at the time said something like: "We should have guessed that a country that had Fangio, would also have such fearsome pilots"
Whats remarkable about this air attack is that the entire thing was filmed so this recreation is extremely accurate
Perhaps not entire thing but a lot of it. However, it is a rather rare historical exception.
The UK Dept of Defence and media outlets came to an agreement that two and only two cameramen were allowed to report on this war as part of the contingent who sailed to war. One was from the BBC, the other from the commercial networks. One used a 16mm film camera, possibly a CP 16 which at the time was a fine news camera, the other a new technology video camera which would likely have been a Sony Betacam of Ikegami model.
Disaster - the video camera went down sometime during the conflict leaving only the film camera to record many historic events.
@@geoffreymee7671 Very interesting details, thank you for contributing!
Gloria eterna a nuestros pilotos que dejaron su vida por nuestra patria 🇦🇷❤️
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If only those sacrifices had been for the benefit of your country, rather than corrupt politicians.
@@JackSmith-hx8zh If only your country did not dedicate itself to invading territories, perhaps we would be a better world.
@@JackSmith-hx8zh ellos pelearon por su país y no por y para los políticos,no se confunda y manche el honor de nuestros pilotos,sobre todo los caídos
Thanks for doing this great video. Argentine air assets were very brave and determined in this war.
Yes and people like them were always going to punish the Brits for the list of mistakes they made during this operation.
Thanls for watching! Yes, FAA and Naval aviation could be extremely efficient under the circumstances.
They fought against Sea Dart, Sea Slug,, Sea Wolf, Sea Cat, Rapier, Blow pipe missile systems, also Sidewinder L missiles from Sea Harriers. Mavericks!
It was quite dangerous to fly into the zone of combat, that's for sure.
basically fighting with NAM & 6 days war stuff a navy designed to repel a full scale invasion of the USSR impressive if you think of..
you forgot to mention that argentine aircrafts didn't use chaff flares
The last attack of this group, Second squadron, was June 13 against the Main British land base, almost a complete surprise, 7 Skyhawks reached the target. 3 were damaged by AAA.
@@v1tina154 Skyhawks B, no RWR, no radar, no radar altimeter and 50% of them no Omega navigators. The Mirage 5 was worse, no Omega navigator at ALL.
Those Argentine pilots represented quite well. It would have been a more harrowing experience for the British in that campaign, if they had not had the good fortune of being hit by unexploded bombs. An excellent selection for treatment by Showtime112.
It's true that with all the bombs exploding, there would have been a lot more warships on the bottom of the ocean. There will be more videos from this conflict, thanks for the comment!
True and if Rapier had been stored better during the voyage south there would have been a lot more dead Argentine pilots i suppose war is full of what ifs.
Si representaron muy bien, pero la guerra es el fracaso de toda acción pacífica.... y por lo tanto es un fracaso !. Mas allá de las cuestiones técnicas, me quedo con lo humano de lo que han hecho de ambas partes para con sus camaradas, realmente habla muy bien del valor y los valores que tenían ambos bandos. Saludos desde Argentina.
The matching of the game footage with historical video film and photos is really good! gives it more of a documentary vibe 👏
I agree. In this case, plenty of specific actual footage was available. This is very rarely the case so I took advantage of the situation.
@@showtime112u agree with him praising ur work?😂. I also agree. Some channels use animation, but using game footage provides equaly good coverage, while being much cheaper. Great way for a new channel to reduce costs to a minimum, while not trading in quality. Bravo hrvat.
@@nemiw4429 You are quite right about that. If you animate things from scratch, then you need to have hundreds of thousands views per each video. I can afford a number of flops 😁
Thanks for this👍 we operated A4 Skyhawks with our RNZAF.. A friend of mine was Tactical Radar Operator on HMS Invincible during the Falklands War he didn't know if he was going to live or die.. scary!.... We have a GR3 Harrier in a museum here in NZ..cheers from down under 👍🇳🇿✈️
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It is incredible that still New Zealand belonging to the Commonwealth of Nations that pay homage to the British pirates when they have always used them to do their dirty jobs, you NZ just like the Australians in the first world war in Galipoli where they sent the dead the Australians while the British drank tea
Odličan video. Hrabrost argentinaca je velika. Zbog loše opreme su imali puno manji uspjeh nego što su zaslužili hrabrošću.
Točno, hvala na komentaru!
Istina.
La Argentina tenia el equipamiento que tenia, y la mentalidad argentina es positiva, tenemos la inventiva para solucionar los problemas que van surgiendo, prueba de esto es el ITB, instalacion de tiro Berreta, sacaron un misil MM38 del ARA Segui y se hizo una lanzadera portatil, los fabricantes de los misiles EXOCET no podian entender como se pudo realizar
Fascinating.
These small battles are every bit as interesting as large ones, to me.
I knew little/none of this before.
Thank you.
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Thank you for watching and commenting! I agree that smaller battles are quite interesting (and less overwhelming perhaps).
I'm impressed. CG opens another world of historical understanding as demonstrated in this program. No other reconstructed format can match. Well done.
Thanks! As far as I can tell, the only other options are extremely high-budget Hollywood movies with real aircraft replicas, or invention of a time machine 😁
there is an actual film about two Skyhawk attacking at very low altitude... you can see just seconds after they hide on the shore. One of the pilots who attacked on June 8th, 1st Lt "Tucu" Cervera, is the same pilot in the classical film from San Carlos Bay on May 24th
Great video as usual Showtime. Can only imagine how terrifying this would have been.
Thanks! Yes, being on that ship was hell on Earth.
Something about this specific war is very ominous, the tenacity and ferocity of the people fighting on both sides, fighting over an scarcely populated piece of land almost at the edge of their both reaches, it's just... humans are scary man...
Some have compared it to the sight of two bald men fighting over a comb :) I see your point. On the positive side, there were no atrocities against civilians and the Geneva Convention was mostly respected, as far as I can tell.
There was and sill is a population.
@@showtime112 the cite belongs to Jorge Luis Borges, one of the best Argentine writers and the inspiration for the Jorge de Burgos character in "The Name of the Rose" book (and movie) by Umberto Eco
@@martindione386 Thanks for the additional information! I didn't know the part about The Name of the Rose.
@@showtime112 no problem! Borges was blind, just Jorge de Burgos, and Eco was a fan of his work. Just like me with your videos, keep it up!
The painting of the planes is right..........the serial numbers are on the mark.....very good video!!!!
I think only Cachon's airolane has the correct serial number here 😁 Thanks again!
An excellent video, showing another chapter of history fought in the skies
Thanks a lot for the feedback!
Gracias por recrear tan bien el ataque a Fitz Roy del 8 de junio de 1982. Nuestros pilotos son coraje y huevos! Honor a ellos por siempre. Las Malvinas son y seran argentinas!! Va mi like
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The Sinmalvinas are always bitter.
@@jesso777 You cannot expect them to be happy. One problem of pirates' psychology is to believe that everybody should be happy despite their thievery.
West Falklands (Argentina) is and always will be British. See? I can type rubbish too.
rubbish is having to pay taxes to support 3000 people who contribute nothing to the crown. think about it...
Thank you for another interesting movie.
Lower physical fitness for Guards Battalions was partially caused by the fact, that prior to the war one of them was on ceremonial duties, and they did not have enough time to be trained in heavy conditions (In the south hemisphere it was winter time). Another fact is/was lower physical expectations for Guardsmen, especially when compared to Paras or RM.
I have read two books/diaries when this incident was described. One was "Soldier Song" by Ken Lukoviak, a Para who took part in the rescue effort. Another was written by ex-Welsh Guardsman Simon Westonm who was aboard and was severely burned
I did read Lukoviak's book, some 20 years ago. Moving story of a fellow para of a distant country. Liked it a lot.
Thanks for contributing more info. These testimonies must be an interesting read for anyone who wants to get a detailed picture of the conflict.
Being unfit is a myth put about by bad feeling among some British commanders, the lift was a attempt to hurry things up, the fact the men were not disembarked at speed was nothing less than a disgrace the danger being pointed out by a Marine who had no authority to insist on action being taken, sadly all wars experience these things.
The bravery of Argentine pilots saved British lives. They flew so close to their targets to ensure a hit that the bomb fuses didn’t have time to arm.
Ps. If all the population want to remain British then we are obliged to defend them.
The Welsh guards are an elite infantry Battalion of the British Army. Their fitness was never in question ceremonial duties or not. They were all soldiers first. All the rest is urban legend promulgated by those who should have known better.
thanks for doing this video, it's an honor for us to see that other countries recognize the expertise of our pilots!
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Glory, honor and respect for those who have fallen heroically in combat. Great video, cheers from Argentina.
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Cheers al enemigo y saluditos? Que manga de trolos son estos cipayos
@@DanielPerez-ln4vuwhat?
@@DanielPerez-ln4vuAl enemigo hay que respetarlo, incluso por encima de cualquier diferencia... Si es necesario una guerra eso se soluciona en el campo de batalla, no por un comentario de TH-cam.
@@DanielPerez-ln4vualto cabecita de termo, ameo
Los ataques de la FAA, fueron más bajos que como lo grabaste. Eso, los jugó en contra, porque muchas bombas no llegaron a armarse al caer.
Saludos desde Argentina. Y para mi, son las Islas Malvinas.
PD: ambos países deberían madurar y trabajar en conjunto. Si EE.UU. y Japón superaron sus problemas, Argentina e Inglaterra pueden hacer lo mismo.
La soberania de las Islas Malvinas pertenece a la Argentina, NO HAY NEGOCIACION POSIBLE con Inglaterra si niega este hecho elemental.
Estados Unidos y Japon solucionaron los problemas inmediatamente, son aliados estrategicos , USA les vende los F35 a Japon y Japon esta trabajando radares de avanzada para USA.
@@francisconavarro7296 lamentablemente fue un error la guerra, les sirvio politicamente a galtieri al principio y luago a Tatcher. Un acuerdo a 50 años y nos quearian 9 años para que sean nuestras
Eeuu escribió la Constitución japonesa después de la guerra, ojo
The Argentine Air Force and in fact all its Armed Forces showed they are no push over and very capable . As a Brit though im glad we won , sad though at all the loses of life from this Conflict but the Falkland Islands wish to be British and as long as that is the case . Long shall it be . Respect to that Argentine Forces , they was doing their job much like the Men and Women of the British Armed Forces and im sad at all their loses . This from an Ex-RAF member ....my loyalties are for our own Forces of cause but I have no ill will towards the Argentines .
As it should be. Cheers from the States
That's a healthy attitude, thanks for sharing!
@@showtime112 Thank you im sure they would think the same . I was only Ten when this war broke out but spent a four months tour down there so i understand the feelings of the Islanders .
It's good to see respect from former enemies of both sides... chivalry ay it's highest.
You must consider that argentine forces at the islands were not combat forces but occupation ones; war never was the mean to achieving the goal of keeping the islands under argentine sovereignty but to force Britain to seat at the negotiation table, after leaving it a few years before.
Not a single argentine branch of the military prepared for a war because of that; you must remember that argentine occupation didn't produce a single british casualty, such was the core of that operation; they just had to expell the colonial authorities and forces, substituing the administration with argentine officials, under a provisory government, until negotiations were ended un some kind of agreement.
If Argentina wanted a war, their armed forces would have done very different preparations to repel any attack or attempt of landing... but that was not the case; that's why the army send recently recruited conscripts, instead of better trained, weather adapted and equipped for such harsh environment; they were placed at defensive lines because they had no ability to manouver to, flank or counter attack incoming british infantry... they were sent to protect just sheeps and wait for the diplomacy to resolve the issue!!!
That's why all the supplies to maintain the troops were stockpiled at warehouses in Stanley... because it was the most efficient way to administrate goods for an occupation force, not because argentine commanders were idiots that didn't know how to prepare strategic points to support the front lines or because they were cruel with their own troops!!! (Those two are the most common cliches and folklore about "incompetent" management and command of argentine commands)
They didn't send heavy artillery (that was done when military actions had already started) nor accumulate big ammunition stocks.
The Argentine Navy was not prepared así well; they had the older naval attack jets (A-4 Skyhawks) being retired and waiting for the new ones (Super Etendard) to complete their planned number, with only 5 of 14.
They didn't place mines to close the straight waters and deny navigation to british ships.
The only 2 modern submarines (Type 209-1200) needed to enter big maintenance jobs and just one was able to operare, only after hurriedly made preparations; moreover, the cree was mostly rookie and assembled for the mission, while the experts and veterans were un Germany, being trained to operate the state of the art TR-1700 submarines, designed and taylor-made for the Argentine Navy... for more than a decade, they were the most advanced and capable conventional submarines in the whole planet; the first 2 arrived just 2 years after the conflict (not war).
They were also waiting for the 4 new MEKO-360 class destroyers (again, state of the art by that time) and... you know what?, they were waiting for the 6 remaining (from 8 acquired)... brand new Westland Sea Lynx HAS MK-23 ASW helicopters!!!
Would you do that with the country you will go to war against?
The main naval assets were a veteran british aircraft carrier and 2 Type 42 destroyers, one of them built in Argentina... it's like if today Argentina had built a Daring class for it's Navy!!!
Looks that normal between "mortal enemies"?
A curious thing about this ships: The first argentine Type 42 (Hércules) and the Sheffield were built at the same time; the british suffered a fire on it's stern, very close to it's launching; due to the thight schedual (and because the Queen would preside the ceremony) the Argentine Navy agreed to cede the stern section of it's own ship to help achieving that in time... so... some years later, argentine naval jets sank the stern of their own destroyer!!!
Seems pretty odd... isn't?
The Argentine Air Force was not prepared for naval attack missions, neither the weaponry; all tactics had to be developed and trained again... hurriedly, improvising solutions with the available resources; that's why many of the bombs didn't explode (and many RN ships didn't sunk, because of that) when hit their targets... and still the argentine birds of prey managed to nail their claws on half british flete.
In brief, and just considering the same available resources at the time; if Argentina wanted a war and prepared it's dorces for that... it would have been a slaughter for the Royal Navy, even before landing a single man on shore.
Even if british troops had landed, with cold weather and mountain argentine troops (which were kept at mainland during the conflict, just preventing chilean agressions); if heavy artillery were placed at necessary points to repel landings and supporting own manouvering troops... again... no chance for british infantry.
If the only available submarine had it's original crew and were properly maintained and armed, 1 or 2 more british ships would have been lost (the San Luis achieved 3 torpedo attacks but without success, because failures in the during computer and wiring of the torpedoes)... the RN wasn't able to find a noisy little submarine (it needed a hull cleaning for removing incrustations); just think if both units were fully operational...
Argentina didn't 'want to fight... just imagine if they wanted to.
But now, most of britons make fun on "those fool, incompetent guys that started a war against thei most glorious and powerful empire ever existed ".
Just informing for ending cliches, stereotypes and myths...
Greetings
@@sinergiamdp very intetesting, and deeply researched details. Gracias from Italy
Amazing video! There was one more successful attack on June 13, one day before the end of the conflict. 6 A4 Skyhawks successfully attacked Jeremy Moore´s camp at Mount Two Sisters with BRP 250 bombs
Thanks for the comment and for adding info!
Great stuff, Showtime, thanks!
I appreciate it, thanka!
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 Excellent representation of the attack. Thank you very much for maintaining the actions of our great pilots over time!
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Great job. Congratulations! A good narration of the events that occurred on June 8, 1982. A hug!
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Great video as usual. Amazing that that the Brits wouldn't even have a few Blowpipes, Stinger or similar shoulder launched AA missiles on board each ship. Blowpipe wasn't good against jets but the crews here must have felt pretty helpless.
They did have blowpipe missiles but the teams that had them had not yet unloaded from the ship. They were supposed to have disembarked at dawn but because of delays were still not unloaded when the Argentine aircraft arrived.
I think there were some Rapier batteries at Bluff Cove to the north. They really shoul have covered the ships.
@@showtime112 unfortunately the priority of helicopter meant that they couldn't relocate the rapier battery. Presumably the planners thought they would be of the ships by early morning.
@@AV-sl9wg There were plenty of assumptions here I guess. That's why they say that assumption is the mother of all f***ups.
Blowpipes showed less than 2% reliability in this conflict. Over 110 were fired, 11 by Argentina. Only 2 or 3 made to their targets, I don't remember exactly but I think it was a Sea Harrier and a Pucará.
Fantastic history video....perfect texture and history. As a former jet pilot, very congratulations and thank you for posting! Ciao
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In fact, at the origin the problem, is the Atlantic Conveyor that was shooted by an EXOCET, a french missile throwed by a argentine Super Etendard.
This missile was throwed for sinking a warship but it has missed this target and it has arrived by mistake on the Atlantic conveyor which sunk with all the helicopters of troops transport.
It's the reason why thez use these ships the Sir Galahad and the other one. When they arrived at Fitzroy the chief of the english commando asked to get off the boat his men for security reason.
The superior authority refused. So the disaster has begun.
Salut Jeanne. J'ai envoyé à showtime les photos du pilote leader en A4 ainsi que son zinc. Aussi le HMS Plymouth dans le viseur d'un Dagger ( noir et blanc). Photos de Dagger avant attaque. Et impact bombe sur le flanc du Tristam.. si le Atlantic conveyor n'avais pas coule, y aurait eu en plus 1 lynx, 6 Wessex et surtout 3 chinook....a partir de la tu devines la suite.
Au sujet de explosion charge de profondeur sur Plymouth, mon bouquin dit que c'est un obus de 30mm qui a percuté et non une bombe
True. As always, for something like this to happen, many things need to aligns. One thing leads to another and eventually, a disaster. Thanks for another comment!
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Cet épisode a eu une deuxième répercussion, c'est que ces hélicos devaient servir à envoyer les troupes pour la prise de Port Stanley. Et donc cela a ralenti les opérations, car tout a dû se faire à pied avec les quelques blindés que les anglais possédaient à l'époque. Ce qui a pris du temps. Quelques A-4 ont mitraillé ce processus et cette marche forcée, mais les anglais finirent pas prendre la ville car ils avaient la supériorité aérienne.
@@jeannezehner9450salut Jeanne. De retour de 🏖️. J'ai envoyé à showtime beaucoup de photos de A4 et de récits que j'ai traduit en anglais.. il en a besoin pour la vidéo de samedi prochain au sujet de la 2e vague attaque mais cette fois empêché par seaharrier. 3 Skyhawk abattu en 2 minutes. Yaurai pu en avoir un 4e si le HUD n'était pas en panne électrique éclairage plus de viseur pour un tir Aden 30mm.
Bonnes vendanges.pas trop fatiguée ?? Les souches sont sûrement sur treille, donc pas baisser ?
Yes, but that's no excuse for sending those 2 unarmed ships without a frigate for escort and air defence.
аргентина 👍👍👍
Guauuu!
Qué buen trabajo.
Enhorabuena de nuevo.
Gracias
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Great channel, thanks for this video!
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🇦🇷 pilots are quite accurate with outdated munitions, noticed that.
They were trained well enough to be precise. Especially when there wasn't any anti-aircraft defense like with Sir Galahad and Tristram.
Claro tirando bombas de 500 kg de un avion es igual que ir corriendo y tirar una piedra al blanco, totalmente obsoleto el armamento argentino, asi y todo logro dañar muchos buques e inclusive hundirlos.
1+ the quality is somehow increasing, well done!
Must be experience :) Thanks for the comment!
The more I hear about these engagements in detail the more I think The outcome of the Falklands War was decided by non-exploding bombs more than any other factor
Maybe but I'd say not really. Even if the British had lost all the ships hit by non-exploding bombs, the outcome wouldn't have changed much because they were warships and they could afford to lose them. Had the transport ships been attacked (and sunk), that would have won the war for Argentina.
@@showtime112 Si Argentina hubiera tenido Generales competentes y una tropa profesional ( en vez de reclutas q a pesar de su coraje en muchos casos tenian casi nulo entrenamiento militar...) creo q otro podria haber sido el resultado...
Excelente! Parabéns pelo vídeo. Obrigado.
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Thanks for the reenactment. ....Never did remember who did what to whom!!
Thank you for watching! Plenty of things happened in this war, hard to remember everything.
Fantástico trabajo de edición, estupendo trabajo de vídeo, gracias por publicar. 🥇
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I have only lived in 2 other countries in my life time other than where I currently reside and that would be Argentina and England. Both have such fantastic people. Hopefully time will heal the wounds of war and both countries will be amicable towards each other.
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Solo cuando Gran Brataña.. restituya nuestra Islas Malvinas...quizás y solo quizás. .seamos naciones "amigas"..!!
NEVER❗THE ARGENTINES DISTRUST THE ENGLISH. THEIR ARMIES TRIED TO INVADE ARGENTINA IN 1806 AND 1807. NOT CONSISTENT FOR HAVING BEEN DEFEATED, THEY DECIDED TO INVADE THE FALKLANDS IN 1833!!!
ENGLAND HAS MADE AND MAKES HUMANITY SUFFER. WE WILL NEVER BE YOUR FRIENDS...NEVER❗❗❗
@@juliof9457yo no los considero mis enemigos, ni a los británicos, ni a los chilenos.. hay cosas que hay que empezar a superar.. hoy en día este conflicto se resuelve, por vías diplomáticas
so your solution is abdication@@Ale63871
Las islas MAlVINAS Argentinas hoy mañana y siempre🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷❤
The Falkland Islands will NEVER be part of Arg.
Larga vida Argentina.Saludos desde Polonia.Inglaterra fuera.
@@jozef.stalinowski The Falklands islands & other island's are British & have never been Argentine !! The Spanish invaded south America colonised many countries what is now Argentina is one known as " Viceroyalty of the roi de la plata " .So the Spanish colonise countries & its ex- colony tries to colonise other countries !! The people on the Falklands islands are of British origin & want nothing to do with the Argentine government ... Its neighbours Chile have land disputes with them & at the time nearly went to war with them as well . !! 🙄🇬🇧✌
The falkland islands & other island's are British ! So the islanders want nothing to do with the Argentine government !! 🇬🇧✌🙄
@@nigelpilgrim4232Revise your wonky slewed history m8
I enjoy this channel ,well presented historical accounts and stunning , "Wow ! " cinematics. Thank you.
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You are most welcome thank you for your efforts@@showtime112
The occasional tendency of Argentine bombs to not explode was, of course, promptly reported by the BBC and quickly rectified. When reporters are embedded in your unit, I recommend fitting them with remote-controlled explosive collars.
The information did not come from a embedded reporter but someone who should have known better, i saw this happen.
That's a bit drastic 😁
The media really are the enemy, aren't they? It's not something that started in 2016.
Mučo interesantno.
Thanks for covering less known parts of this War
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Its a very well known episode of this war, you can access real footage of the attack.
Pensar que vi la misión de los Dagger del 8 de junio desde la Base de Río Grande !!!
Thanks for sharing!
Great vid. One of the few times the Argentine pilots flew high enough on an attack run so that their bombs would arm. Easier against unarmed ships with no CAP. Most often they were forced to fly low by British AA fire…
Thanks a lot! Yes, in this case everything just aligned for the Argentine side.
---- EXCELLENT VIDEO....THANKS. You are paying tribute to the armed forces of both sides and keeping the historical fact alive.....THANKS....Greetings from Mexico City.
Greetings Pablo, always nice hearing from you!
GREAT VIDEO
I'm glad you liked it, thanks!
I have seen several of your videos and I have to congratulate you for your research work and the detailed narration of the events. It is a little sad to say that in Argentina there isn't an animated documentary film as detailed as yours about the actions of the Air Force in Malvinas.
Thank you very much for your positive feedback! Generally, such videos are limited as the audience for them is kinda limited too.
These falklands videos are awesome. Congrats 👏🏻👏🏻 it would be nice to see David Morgan as the ace of Falklands War as well
Thanks a lot! There will be a video involving David Morgan in near future.
Vrhunski video .... Svaka čast
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Imagine if the Ark Royal with her Phantoms and Buccaneers had still been in service in '82.
It would have been a different game for sure. But then again, Argentina probably wouldn't have invaded the islands in the first place (at least so it seems to me).
they had mirages and mirage daggers comparable to f 4 phantoms and subsonic buccaneers and they could have purchased second hand f4 from USAF/USN stock.
I had read somewhere that some of Argentines flew so low that their bombs didn’t have enough drop time to arm. Damn, that’s low.
That's true, the reason for many bombs not exploding is mostly believed to be too low altitude of release.
Thats because were bombs for air ground attack purposes, no for an insular war scenario at that time
Islas Malvinas, 1982. Honor y Gloria a la Fuerza Aérea Argentina!
This operation was so badly planned and executed by the Brits, almost unbelievably so. Painful to watch, I cant even moan about the information given as it's accurate.
Detailed explanation of all the things that went wrong would take a 20 minute video but I just summed it up. It was a big gamble which went horribly wrong, it seems.
I don't know what the British were thinking, sending those 2 ships out there with no escorting frigates. Madness!
Estupendo documental, enhorabuena
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I remember this war which was followed continuously and live reported by BBC.
The british ships were such easy targets with no anti air defence around them. How stupid could they be?
And like someone else pointed out here it was a pity that so many who lost their lives in that short conflict.
Wars are only heroic to those outside it. From inside its a hell you never want to find yourself in.
Excellent presentation by Showtime 112. What more can we expect. Thanks for covering this conflict. Glad you you provided much more insight to the events of this day. Short confluct, but very costly, and oresented the will of both sides despite limitations that things can be achieved against all odds. Overcome, adapt, and improvise. ♠️🎩🎯🎱🇺🇲🏁🇺🇦🔱🌻🌸🌼🏵️💮🏴☠️🏹
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@@showtime112 I've made another contribution today. Thanks for all you do!
@@ratagris21 I appreciate it, thanks! If you can contact me on email (showtime112b@gmail.com) I'll send you links to some of the patreon exclusive material if you are interested.
@@showtime112 yes that's fine as long as I don't have to log in because my log in don't work and Patreon does not respond to my inquiries.
excellent work
I appreciate it, thank you!
very informative video, but that map though...of the recently released maps this is by far the worst, it looks so pixelated
It might have to do with the landscape itself. These islands are not exactly stunningly beautiful 😁
well done thanks for the vid
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Excelente representación de los ataques y calidad de video, saludos desde Argentina!
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One little mitake in this video. Daggers, Mirage and Douglas a4 flying under 10 feets. You can search in internet the photo of Carballo and Rinke when attack the ship and take reference whith the photographer and the jets.
Not all the time. When you look at the famous footage from San Carlos Water, that is definitely not ten feet but rather several hundreds of feet. If you attack a ship flying at ten feet, you will crash into it. Even if you just barely clear it and you expect your bombs to explode, the blast will also damage your own airplane. One of the reasons why the bombs worked on Sir Galahad and Sir Tristram is that the Skyhawks didn't have to go that low because there was no anti-aircraft defense.
Finally, in a simulation it is very hard to judge the altitude so precisely compared to real life so it would be extremely difficult to emulate.
Nice vid. An Important perspective. It is as if there were little advancements from Vietnam to 1982 that could have provided AA. But so much can be blamed on the loss of the Atlantic Conveyor.
Thanks for the comment! There was some advancement but proper defenses simply weren't deployed where they were supposed to be.
Ver el documental, "Malvinas, la guerra desde el aire".
Great video
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it!
Showtime 112 always have you ship board Anti Aircraft defenses on stand by in an active combat zone. This happen at the Battle of Dong Hoi April 19 1972, when a Weapon System operator on board the USS Sterett CG -31 ignore the commanding officer advice of shutting down Terrier Missile air defense. He stay on alert downing a MIG 17 fighter bomber attacking the Ships in the Gulf of Tonkin .
Yes, this operation was way too relaxed.
Nice video👍
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Could never undestand how those ships never had air cover.
Thank you Showtime, this shows respect to our pilots, and their courage!
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nice video
I'm glad you like it, thanks!
NICE videos!
Thank you very much!
Great Britain at Malvinas war suffered the biggest losses since the 2nd Word war.
BS they lost 5 times as many in Korea and 6 times as many during the Malayan emergency.
que buen video...muy real...kudos! greetings from peru
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Hello I love your work and I am a big fan of your channel.
I like your videos about the Falklands War but until now you have not done a video about a dogfight.
I would like to see a video about the 21st of May dogfight of Mike Blisset and Neil Thomas or Rod Fredricksen just for example.
If this could be done I would enjoy it in immensely.
Keep up the good work.
Coming up soon!
Sounds like the Daggers bombs were not fused correctly for attacking the ships
It was incredibly difficult to fuse them correctly due to the speed and altitude of the mirages
For this kind of an attack, I think only retarded bombs would have been really suitable.
@@Pucaramodels finally I get the answer Thank you
@@showtime112 yeah, I'm pretty sure that the only ones with retarded bombs (mk 82 snakeye) were the armada a4s
@@Pucaramodels Thanks for the info!
At last!!!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
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Gracias
Thanks for watching!
What was disgraceful was the lavk of ship to air defences provided to the troops on the ships. Those in charge knew how unprotected they were....and we rewarded the top brass for those they sacrificed.
Accurarte representación!, is there a way of sharing the mirage Livery?
Thanks! The skin can be found here: www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3329526/
@@showtime112 ty so much!!!
Interesting fact (maybe) the helicopter shown with the burning ship above the Life raft was actually flown by prince Andrew.
He was trying to use the downwash from the rotters to blow the raft away from the fire and smoke before being able to gwt the people out.
It is interesting, I didn't know that.
Espectacular.
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Muy bueno, muy bien logrado salvo algunas diferencias como los A4 B ( son A4 fightinghawk con gancho para portaviones) , volaban más bajo y recibían todo tipo de ataque antiaereo, saludos
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That conflict showed the lethality of the Exocet missile.
True. On the other hand, another conflict of that period (Iran-Iraq) showed plenty of its limitations. I hope to cover that story someday.
@@showtime112 Indeed, I think that war -the Iran-Irak war has not been studied enough from both the military perspective and the political implications it had. It was a long conflict fought by two more or less equivalent forces. The information about that war in English is too limited; I would appreciate it if you could cover that story. Thanks, and keep up the excellent work.
How come drop tanks still on? I would think they would have been dropped during attacks?
they cant be replaced. During the war the FAA got Mirage drop tanks from Venezuela but for A-4 nobody in the neighborhood had ( Israelies arrived with the war over )
They were too scarce. Most footage from the war shows the Argentine aircraft attacking with the drop tanks still on.
Todo estaba en nuestra contra pero demostramos que con los rios platenses no se juega 🇦🇷👊ha que recorsar a nuesta infanteria de marina y fuerza aerea con orgullo y honor
It’s painful too watch as a Brit
Not a good day for us
Yes. Hopefully, at least some lessons were learned.
Yes, like not stealing another nations land from half way around the world, losing hundreds of guys in the process and very nearly losing.@@showtime112
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Yes it is a shame Argentina tried to steal land which has nothing to do with them forcing a senseless war... if only they'd accepted that the, then uninhabited, islands were claimed by England over a century before Argentina even existed.
How terrible of the "colonial pirates"... we'll just ignore the fact that Argentina itself wouldn't exist if not for Spanish colonialism... The Argentines wouldn't want to be seen as hypocrites, would they?
The Falkland islands are not, never will be, and never have been Argentine territory.
@@FallenPhoenix86 Islas Malvinas* were argentine way before uk invaded them in 1833...
you didn't claimed nothing, uk recognized that islands as spanish and therefore argentinian...
Julian Thompson was highly critical of the unloading of the troops - he recognised the danger they were in from Argentine air attacks and unfortunately he predicted the disaster.
75% loss rate? Those AimL’s certainly chewed up the Skyhawks. Their “Welded Wing” formations ( 1950’’s American doctrine) made for simpler navigation and on-target timing, but, as was seen, made them easy meat for the SHARs.
It is true that Sea Harriers were highly successful almost every time they met the enemy.
greetings from Argentina actually 1000 kmts from the Malvinas
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Balls of steel!
Im curious, do you ever use other players for your dcs videos or is it just AI?
In some occasions, I recruit help. Usually when it's impossible to make the AI act in a specific way. If you want to participate, you can join the Discord or contact me on email, instagram or FB.
@@showtime112 aah im already in the discord, well if you ever need a mig19/mig21/mi8/a10 pilot im happy to be of help :D
@@s3quencial Thanks! I've put you on the list. I might find something for you. Which time zone are you in?
@@showtime112 AWST
@@s3quencial That's a bit different than mine but we can probably find some overlapping time when we are both awake 😁
Hola Vivo en Río Grande mí pueblo vivió esos momentos y recuerda los despegues e🎉n el 1982. Es la mejor representación que he visto pero Río Grande Río Gallegos y San Julián de dónde salían los Aviones eran ciudades con poca población una decena de miles por aquellos años. Las vistas aérea muestran el sobrevuelo de las ciudades como se ve hoy . Todas esas viviendas no estaban . El paisaje era estepa.
Thank you for the feedback. Unfortunately, there's not much that can be done as the South Atlantic Map for DCS is a modern map based current on satellite photos. It can't be adjusted for the 1982 appearance.
Hey! Great video. Is this the attack that disabled the Birtish Chinooks? Their original plan was to use Chinook helicopters to get the men close to the Argentinian positions on the Islands. When the Chinooks were damaged they had to walk something like 20 miles before they even engaged.
Thanks ! No, most Chinooks were lost on the Atlantic Conveyer which was hit by an Exocet missile launched by Super Etendards.
After the Malvinas war, the air combat protocols changed completely, it was the work and grace of the Argentine pilots, there are several videos on TH-cam that show that the movie Top Gun Maverick, is inspired by the tactics of the Argentine pilots, flying at high speed in flights at the lowest possible altitude, a skill where Argentine pilots are the best
Long live to the brave Argentine soldiers who fought the nato. God bless you my brothers.
Why weren't Exocet missiles used in the attack as had been so successfully used earlier in the conflict? As sitting ducks, the two ships would have been at the bottom of the bay.
There was a very simple reason. They ran out by this time.
Argentina solo tenía 5 Exocet, si hubiera tenido 5 más la historia hubiera cambiado
buenisimo el video lo unico la instrumental del a4e el a4b que tenia la FAA no tenia ni radar ni instrumento navegador
Thanks! The exact versions used by the FAA are not available in DCS.
Navegador si tenian...Usaban el navegador Omega, aunque no todos lo tenian...Lo que tenian todos eran VOR y ADF...Pero estos solos servian para el alejamiento inicial hasta los 250 km aproximadamente, despues en razante perdian la señal.
Well done.
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Good video besides what I going to comment man!. So sad to learn about the lose of life though.
I'm Argentinian, and I first noted the A-4E/F aircraft instead of the Bs and Mirage IIIC instead of the Daggers used.
I wish we had A-4E/F and we almost did!: Israel was caught by the US or the Brits preparing some of their A-4E/F to be shipped to us; pictures of light gray (not a scheme Israel used back then) Skyhawks can be easily found online.