Packers Aftermath - Is It Time for a Change at Linebacker?!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ก.ย. 2024
- On today's show, join Justis & Andy as they take a deeper dive into Packers/Colts and what, if any, changes need to be made in the aftermath of their Week 2 victory. Don't miss it!
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That age old adage well we don't think Cooper/Hopper are ready to play more snaps in crucial situations. How are they supposed to get ready if you don't play them lol😂 come on now.
They don't think they are ready, but we KNOW quay is not.
@TyreeTravels true, but out of Mcduffie Wilson and Quay, you want Quay out there put more speed out there with him maybe you'll see a better version. I know for sure get him out the middle.
@@Valzod47quay is AWFUL. I’d rather roll with Duff and Eric cuz they’re more avg/solid in more ways than Quay
The holding penalty by OT Walker that eliminated a 20 yard TD run by Jacobs was also an important play besides the fumble in holding the Packers back.
Fumble for sure it would of made it a three score game but I’m fairly certain Wicks scored on the same drive after Jacobs’ TD run was called back.
If Malik never got live reps in Tennessee, that’s a massive indictment on Vrabel and his offensive coaching staff.
Titans didn't really give Malik a real chance. It's good he is here in GB.
Just wait a few more weeks and he will become even better.
Between this revelation and the way the Panthers handle Bryce Young, I am really shocked at how hard teams make the lifes for their players/QBs. Heck, the Caleb Williams situation, where the Bears chose shiny things over a solid OL to protect their QB protege is baffling. Like, how are you not trying the best to protect your QB and develop him? Its feels insane to see such things as a fan.
@@hasamikun I believe Bryce Young will be very good in GB offense.
I wish they let E. Cooper play more. Hopefully soon.
I for one love a QB who can scramble. If no open receiver than take off running. Go Packers Go.
All of Andy's guests are great.
Andy and Justis is my favorite pairing of all the great guests.
I think they will give Quay a little more time to figure it out given his drart status, but he is on notice. Also on notice is Nixon. He has been just BAD. Musgrave needs to just go to blocking school if he wants to see the field more. Thanks Andy, I love when you and Justis are on together.
Thank you...someone besides me see that in Nixon. ST is helping Nixon's existence.
The days of Lane and Brockington. Run, Run, Run. Great play calling by LaFleur. The game and clock management were outstanding.
Quay can still be effective blitzing and using his athleticism spying the QB. He’s one of the worst read and react linebackers in the NFL I predict they’ll try moving Quay out of the middle to the outside and give Edgerrin Cooper a shot at MLB.
LB needs to be #1 priority in the next draft. Quay needs to go.
there's a reason you draft guys and that's to play them because you didn't like what you had there yet they keep them on the sideline. It's only 2 games in and so there's still things to figure out on D but right now is the time to start playing those guys you drafted more so that later in the season they'll be ready for the big show. They treat the D much different than the offense where from the get go they played all their rookies and by the end of the season they were amazing. Damn it, play them because those clowns like Nixon were bad and guess what....they're still bad.
A fantastic show, thanks Andy
Quay isn’t getting 5th year option. Hopefully cooper hopper and maybe a FA in the future can man the LB core
Facts, Quay just isn't it man. Still playing like a rookie.
Valentine looked shaky as well, I'd like to try Kalen King on the edge.
What's going on with Eric Stokes tho?
@@jkingdmanyou not hearing much from stokes cuz he’s locking down. That’s it that’s all
Walker is a bust, doesn't want to tackle.
@@jkingdman King? I hope he never sees the field,he is horrible.
Yea Quay needs to be benched at this point. Maybe they’re giving him more time to learn the new defense but weren’t they specifically saying it should be easier on the front 7? The packers historically don’t trust rookies even when the “ veterans” and playing poorly. Start cooper now to let him make his mistakes now instead of in two months
Andy, you've got to be careful about any vomit references given recent events. That said, i love the content.
I’ve never liked Nixon in coverage. He got beat so much last season. I was shocked when they gave him $18M! He does hustle and plays with heart and he can tackle. He’s probably our best tackling CB honestly.
Quay has definitely struggled and needs to be benched or moved. No hustle, doesn’t seem to know what’s going on and is slow to get where he needs to be, and almost always tackles at the shoulder pads which is stupid! He seems to be a bust unfortunately.
They should really give Cooper and Hopper more reps. Especially Cooper. I’ve loved the flashes I’ve seen from Cooper!
It really sucks that Quay has not reached his potential. I was really excited when he got drafted. But the reality is if he dosent grow after this season. It’s curtains…I’m worried Musgrave may not be what we thought either but I believe!
Musgrave doesn't know how to block and slow to his route. He might be 3rd string soon. Tucker Kraft is the whole package.
Kraft has moved ahead of Musgrave.
i said at the end of last year that Kraft was the better player, yes Musgrave is fast, but that's it.
Kraft is my favorite offensive player so I’m not arguing 💪🏽!
Yes he is not good enough to start for this team. Mcduffie is constantly picked on and beaten in space slow to read and even slower to recover once beaten.
I think Stoke is still the starting CB but Valentine played more on Sunday because he is better able to hold up against the run.
Is anyone going to mention that Lambeau field is the hardest stadium to kick a field goal in in the entire league?
I think we need to not read into the Philly game in Brazil as far as secondary goes because DBs were slip n sliding right off the field every other play
Linebacker is not necessarily an area of deep concern for Green Bay, but the Green Bay Packers will be relying on youth to deliver at that position. It would be a prudent for Brian Gutekunst to add some experienced depth behind Green Bay’s young linebacker corps. Quay Walker, Isaiah McDuffie, and Edgerrin Cooper look solid on paper, but the Green Bay Packers could get exposed if either Edgerrin Cooper or Isaiah McDuffie struggle in a heightened role, or if an injury befalls any of the 3 starters. Under our new defensive coordinator Jeff Hafley, the Green Bay Packers are building a defense that will require dynamic play at linebacker. Edgerrin Cooper is already turning heads in Green Bay, and it’s assumed that he’ll be given the opportunity to start alongside Quay Walker. Isaiah McDuffie should see his playing time drastically increase in his 4th season, especially in Jeff Hafley’s 4-3 defense. Go Pack Go 💚💚💛💛
Oh, you learned to copy and paste. How cute!
That's a nice Bears hat. Quay and Nixon are the weak spots right now. Who else plays slot? Bullard? King?
If king touches the field at any point this year we are in trouble.
Nixon is playing in Hafley s scheme now but does the same things he did last year under Barry, stands 5 yards off the line of scrimmage and looks at the QB while the receiver he is supposed to cover runs past him wide open, number 14 for the Colts caught a wide open TD pass because Nixon is still playing the same as last year no wonder he had a 78% completion in 2023. Bullard needs more snaps in the slot.
Bullard is an option, but if they wanted to put a CB out there, it would be Ballentine. He was lining up in the slot during camp.
Please start our rookies LB’s I’d rather accept there mistakes. They will also make so eye popping plays also.
Justis! Andy!
Love the way Jacobs ran the ball but his fumble cost me my fantasy game, lost by 4 points. Great win though and Lafleur is an incredible coach. Willis did a great job of just running the offense, which is amazing at this point. They may be able to open it up a bit, Willis was pretty accurate when he did throw it. Great win regardless.
I said it from the beginning of camp that LB was the weakest position. I am not surprised at the play so far. Now they know what to focus on in the draft. McDuffie was exposed last year. The LB weakness was known at the end of the season last year...before the draft. The DC just has to work with what they got. We were told the new defensive scheme gives players more freedom. Well, now its time see who is who....no excuses... GPG
How this guy can be so critical of the GB offensive line play when their running backs ran for 261 yards, with 4.9 yards per rush vs. the Colts is surprising.
I’m sure he was talking about having 237 yards at halftime and ending the game with only an additional 25 yards for the last 2 quarters is wild.
Because their running backs didn't do that. Not sure why you claim they did.
The backs ran for 175 at 4 yards per carry.
I think Hafley has the right idea with prioritizing different personnel/scheme/playstyle based on the opponent. It wasn't great against Philly but Walker and Wilson looked amazing this game.
Walker was horrid. What game did you watch?
Leave Quay put those rookies around him
Yes
I thought we would be good at LB.
Quay Walker doesn't want to tackle.
TJ dominated week 1 though. I think he gets more than decent penetration and wreaks havoc. I’d like to see him more than we did this week.
Quay Walker is a disaster,he refuses to run up in the hole and tackle the ball carrier,he lets them get by and then tries to tackle from behind 5 yards down the field, just like Blake Martinez,all his tackles are 5 yards down field. Walker has been a 1st round bust.
Amen. Should have taken Devin Llyod like I was screaming for. But hey what do I know.
Eric Wilson is a dude!
58 a dog around every single play
Some of Quay Walker's decisions were head scratchers.
Guaranteed Andy won't post a negative video about Nixon 😅
Andy is a press guy, so I wonder if he's scared of Nixon or something if he says something bad about him lol Nixon is charismatic and popular
I'd love to see Jordan run the inside zone or anything else. If he ran the ball against San Francisco we probably would have won.
He doesn’t take off and run enough and I don’t understand why. That exact play against the 49ers is the perfect example where instead of forcing throws he should run when the opportunity is there. The crazy thing is that he’s a good athlete, I don’t understand why he doesn’t do it more.
Props to Malik but he can’t play vs Flores
I think Quay needs to be relieved of the play calls. Let Xavier take it.
Justis!
GB Jedi QB training program🏈
Masterful disinformation campaign surrounding Love's injury timeline
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What you are talking about is covering up glaring weaknesses on Defense and it’s only game 2. Add in Mcduffie and no sign of a decent rush and you have too many soft spots. I’d start playing Cooper, Hopper, Williams and hope they improve because the eye test says they’re no better and maybe worse than last year.
Duffman is great
You said it. Week 2 new scheme. Yes, Walker hasn't lived up to his 1st round selection, but i guarantee most other teams would sign him when he is available and give him a decent contract. If they are playing this way after 3 or so more games, then i might call for change. Not after only 2 games
@@sampardowski5799 Fair, and maybe the rush improves against pocket passers but week 1 against a decent team with a good oline, they looked overmatched. Last week some of the same weaknesses showed up on JT’s runs and there were some wide open receivers. Anything’s possible, but to me it looks like they don’t have the personnel they’ll need to compete.
@TheSurly74 I do understand where you are coming from but i think i remember the DC ( can't think of his name right now for some reason) is trying to be game to game when it comes to the game plan. We did face 2 mobile QBs, so, like you said, i hope the rush improves. Personally, I'm more concerned with the O-line. I think the line is way too inconsistent. When Love comes back, he will need better line play, especially the first few games back.
I think you are overreacting a bit too much with this. Yes there are definitely some issues that need to be figured out, but this secondary is looking really good, man. The defense is also creating turnovers at a crazy rate right now, which is something I think most people aren't talking about. We almost have as many turnovers in the first 2 games this year as we did the whole season last year.
Justis, the stats you used today took away from your argument. Small sample sizes. Can’t even finish listening to this one
Just re-watched the game and they have to bench Quay and Nixon. They are both just awful out there. At least McDuffie hussles like crazy, just not that effective. How could Cooper or Hopper be any worse? They are athletic and fast, watching Quay be late on everything and running into blocks that are very avoidable, can't read the right hole in the run game. Nixon does hussle but is just really bad at man coverage. I do think Quay might be able to play edge, pin his ears back and go. He can't play off ball LB, no instincts and seems slower this year. Teams are gonna pick on Quay and Nixon. Teams will watch the film and design plays to isolate them. Nixon can't cover 90% or the slot receivers in the league. Bullard or Valentine can't do worse imo. Hell even Ballentine might fair better as well. Please Hafley the film doesn't lie, shake it up.
Crosby! Still available, you think Narveson is weak, wait till the bad weather comes. How about play action on first downs and shots to Doubs, Watson, and Wicks to loosen up the box.
Crosby couldn't kick over 45 yards anymore.
Honestly...Narveson is an upgrade from Carlson/Joseph, IMO. He's missed two FGs, from the same hashmark. And it was close to the upright, whereas Carlson/Joseph's kicks could literally go anywhere all over the field.
@@benswanson5394 precisely! And even the kicks that Carlson made would have me holding my breath until the ball actually cleared the goal posts because they always seem to be off to one side or the other. The majority of Narveson's kicks are right down the center. And as you stated, the misses have been very close. The miss against the Eagles was a doink on the upright.
@@byronmill so I'm hoping he'll be able to iron that out and become a consistent kicker. And I'm fairly certain he's automatic from PAT distance, so gotta get TDs.
I think you guys talk to much!