@@marcuspotter5590 I remember playing SCR once and behind me there was a lot of noise from my dogs and therefore I didn’t realise how fast I was coming up to the terminal and slammed into the station
Good. Some people don't understand that train drivers have exactly the same responsibilities as airline pilots. I wish that some drivers in the haulage industry looked upon it like this too. I fly light aircraft, often with friends and I see parallels between what I have to do to prepare the plane, the logs I have to keep, the rules I have to follow, and HGV driving, daily (and en route) checks, tachographs, following English and EU rules and company policy. Professional jobs are just that. Not for idiots.
As a retired railway signaller we used to attend these safety brief videos on a regular basis generally at Colchester or Norwich where I was based on the Lowestoft line. Cat.A Cat.B Cat.C and Cat.D SPADs were if I recall the rule which I won’t go into here. Certainly brings back my BR and Network Rail days to mind.
Hi George! I'm Brett, checking in from Northern California. I also am a rail enthusiast. I find it fascinating educating myself on your railways. As a matter of fact, I just learned what a SPAD was AND subscribed your Channel. Thanks! best wishes to all.
That near collision at canon st was crazy, i wish he went into more depth about that because i wanted to know as an aspiring train driver how he got it mistaken that the signal was for him, i know signals are usually on the left or middle depending on your location but wow that shocked me lol
The 0:29 to 1:40 mark of the video, mentions a driving instructor who gives a technical explanation of the braking system of a particular locomotive. I agree with the narrator that an instructor should not give such a technical explanation at that time, but also that the instructor needs to devote his full concentration to signals in front of him and the trainee. Had I been in the instructor’s position, I would’ve discussed the need to slow the train down to a speed to enable the trainee to stop that train safely and not have to apply emergency brake. Although to what degree the trainee is responsible is debatable, what isn’t is that the instructor bears even more responsibility for distracting the trainee from doing the job the trainee needs to do: stop that train before the first red signal.
I've never heard of this "chasing aspects" thing that the narrator is talking about. I understand what that means, but I've never heard that phrase before.
For a while on that first one I thought that instructor was talking to the trainee on purpose to get him to fight the distraction and figure out for himself that a danger signal was coming despite that.. but no the instructor was wrong to do that i guess lol
That 66 he is sitting in tho and did anyone else notice the switch junction when he said he could of hit the outher train the junction was set for straight ahead and so was the next one to
I saw that after I watched it several times to see how they filmed it without too much health and safety paperwork. My first thought was they started with the trains close together, backed away, then reversed the video.
At a terminus station there could be trains coming out of the station towards you on the same line, with the intention to use a crossover not yet set in reverse. Single yellow off the platform, inbound train clears points, upgrade to double yellow/green for outbound.
Google can't answer my question, wow! What speeds do drivers travel in relation to the line speed when going through yellow and double yellow caution signals?
+mrnoodles100 In response to your question, there is no stated speed. The rule is that a driver selects a speed that enables him to stop in time. A single yellow means "caution - next signal red" so the driver, based on the type of train he is driving and prevailing conditions (eg railhead conditions), selects a speed that he knows will allow him to stop in good time. Double yellow means "preliminary caution - next signal showing yellow" and the same applies; select a speed appropriate to conditions to allow you to stop in good time.
The Gardener Yeah, we’ll be slowing down, but there’s no set speed as such. When reaching the AWS for a red signal, we’ve been taught to do around 15-20 mph. :)
The spacing between signals can vary considerably as can the gradients of the running line between them. So if there's a mile of 1:80 rising gradient between the Single Yellow and the following Red, a driver might react differently to when the gradient between the Caution and the Stop signals is falling at 1:80!
This seems a nightmare for drivers. The signal system needs addressing as a health and safety issue..rather than passing the book on some issues with smooth talking video's
+cosgrove notts Not at all. Drivers are expected to know the line and the Automatic Warning System, which gives audible indications of the signals, and which will apply the brakes if a caution warning is not acknowledged, is there to help. The fact that SPADs are very rare, in spite of the many thousands of trains that run daily, shows that the system is inherently safe. No system is perfect - look at the recent German accident to prove that - but the rail industry's enviable safety record (I hope I'm not tempting fate by saying this!) should speak for itself.
so my kids cant be in the room while im playing train sim 2013. i get it!
+agello24
And turn your damn phone off!
Not really, but try and avoid these distractions on multiplayer games e.g. Stepford County Railway.
@@marcuspotter5590 I remember playing SCR once and behind me there was a lot of noise from my dogs and therefore I didn’t realise how fast I was coming up to the terminal and slammed into the station
@@JaguarProJoebuffers dont like to be eaten
@@JaguarProJoedid you not notice the ear shattering AWS sound before the terminus
I’m glad he demonstrated what a sandwich is.
Probably Paul's lunch.
Well, having the mobile phone on AND answering it in the cab whilst on the move is a sackable offence now
Good. Some people don't understand that train drivers have exactly the same responsibilities as airline pilots. I wish that some drivers in the haulage industry looked upon it like this too. I fly light aircraft, often with friends and I see parallels between what I have to do to prepare the plane, the logs I have to keep, the rules I have to follow, and HGV driving, daily (and en route) checks, tachographs, following English and EU rules and company policy.
Professional jobs are just that. Not for idiots.
This is great advice for Train Sim World
Oh yes. The chasing aspects one is especially useful. Gotten WAY too many SPAD’s from chasing aspects.
As a retired railway signaller we used to attend these safety brief videos on a regular basis generally at Colchester or Norwich where I was based on the Lowestoft line. Cat.A Cat.B Cat.C and Cat.D SPADs were if I recall the rule which I won’t go into here. Certainly brings back my BR and Network Rail days to mind.
Hi George! I'm Brett, checking in from Northern California. I also am a rail enthusiast. I find it fascinating educating myself on your railways. As a matter of fact, I just learned what a SPAD was AND subscribed your Channel. Thanks! best wishes to all.
That near collision at canon st was crazy, i wish he went into more depth about that because i wanted to know as an aspiring train driver how he got it mistaken that the signal was for him, i know signals are usually on the left or middle depending on your location but wow that shocked me lol
That chasing signal aspects caught me on train sim once or twice😂🤦🏽♂️
Great vid, really suprised to my local station at the end there.
That instructor should turn the phone off and stop distracting the driver because he’s trying to concentrate
Even better if the driver would ask the instructor to be silent because they've passed a yellow signal.
Exactly right he should tell him rather than the other way around
The music is so 90's.... :-)
I love the asthetic despite being born in 2003
Love the view of Ashford station with two lines, much different now.
The 0:29 to 1:40 mark of the video, mentions a driving instructor who gives a technical explanation of the braking system of a particular locomotive. I agree with the narrator that an instructor should not give such a technical explanation at that time, but also that the instructor needs to devote his full concentration to signals in front of him and the trainee. Had I been in the instructor’s position, I would’ve discussed the need to slow the train down to a speed to enable the trainee to stop that train safely and not have to apply emergency brake. Although to what degree the trainee is responsible is debatable, what isn’t is that the instructor bears even more responsibility for distracting the trainee from doing the job the trainee needs to do: stop that train before the first red signal.
I've never heard of this "chasing aspects" thing that the narrator is talking about. I understand what that means, but I've never heard that phrase before.
Not me either I never heard of it at all
Thanks for teaching me about spads.
For a while on that first one I thought that instructor was talking to the trainee on purpose to get him to fight the distraction and figure out for himself that a danger signal was coming despite that.. but no the instructor was wrong to do that i guess lol
This is why the future is in cab signalling. Or at the least an in cab signal repeater to show what the last signal was and next one is.
An automated DRA could help
Fine I won’t have my egg cress sandwich. Damn spisks.
thank you!! great content about spad.
in america we only have red yellow green anyway love the signals in your country
Careful SPAD everywhere
That 66 he is sitting in tho and did anyone else notice the switch junction when he said he could of hit the outher train the junction was set for straight ahead and so was the next one to
I saw that after I watched it several times to see how they filmed it without too much health and safety paperwork. My first thought was they started with the trains close together, backed away, then reversed the video.
At a terminus station there could be trains coming out of the station towards you on the same line, with the intention to use a crossover not yet set in reverse. Single yellow off the platform, inbound train clears points, upgrade to double yellow/green for outbound.
Thanks for uploading
the signals are always a problem, never clear enough on multi lines
for some reason i watched this video all the way through even though i dont even live in britian
A Class 180 is needed everywhere
@@RF_765 I say it because you'll be going nowhere with a SPAD
Clearly he was not a man of culture as well 😒
@@SPiderman-rh2zk Me??🧐
@@TheArkamedBat Noo dw you're the man of culture in this equation! 😁
@@SPiderman-rh2zk Really? Aren't you kidding me? Or you are saying about Tyreman not being cultured?
goddamnit its that guy again why is he in every one
Seems TPWS was not implemented back then....Meantime in Germany... :P
Google can't answer my question, wow! What speeds do drivers travel in relation to the line speed when going through yellow and double yellow caution signals?
+mrnoodles100 In response to your question, there is no stated speed. The rule is that a driver selects a speed that enables him to stop in time. A single yellow means "caution - next signal red" so the driver, based on the type of train he is driving and prevailing conditions (eg railhead conditions), selects a speed that he knows will allow him to stop in good time. Double yellow means "preliminary caution - next signal showing yellow" and the same applies; select a speed appropriate to conditions to allow you to stop in good time.
The Gardener Yeah, we’ll be slowing down, but there’s no set speed as such. When reaching the AWS for a red signal, we’ve been taught to do around 15-20 mph. :)
The spacing between signals can vary considerably as can the gradients of the running line between them. So if there's a mile of 1:80 rising gradient between the Single Yellow and the following Red, a driver might react differently to when the gradient between the Caution and the Stop signals is falling at 1:80!
To me, a SPAD is a type of French WW1 aeroplane! Just saying
Nice information sir
why is there game show music? 2:36
me trying to understand the instructions on Train sim World 2
SPAD
Good video
SPAD ??
This seems a nightmare for drivers. The signal system needs addressing as a health and safety issue..rather than passing the book on some issues with smooth talking video's
+cosgrove notts Not at all. Drivers are expected to know the line and the Automatic Warning System, which gives audible indications of the signals, and which will apply the brakes if a caution warning is not acknowledged, is there to help. The fact that SPADs are very rare, in spite of the many thousands of trains that run daily, shows that the system is inherently safe. No system is perfect - look at the recent German accident to prove that - but the rail industry's enviable safety record (I hope I'm not tempting fate by saying this!) should speak for itself.
You'll be going nowhere
SPAD & CHIPS mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
SCR IS BROKEN (REALISTIC RAIL GAME ON BOBLOK)
You'll be going nowhere